its impossible for someone to fall off once they have built a loyal fanbase. Lil Pump gets average of 5 million streams & 5 million views per song. (Even when people say he "fell off" hes getting big numbers)
Having your first major song be a mega hit is the biggest curse in hip hop. It happens throughout history… even recent history. “The Box” “Oouu” “Hot N!gga” huge first major songs that the artists could never recover from. When your first song is epic, it becomes bigger than the artist and the artist will never make another one because having a mega hit is a once in a lifetime thing
Their have been a few artist who broke it but the problem is when all your music sounds the same people already know what to expect. This is why I think Travis will have the number 1 album this year because we don’t know what Utopia is going to sound like
2019 was Roddy ,dababy,Young thugs(so much fun) and polo gs year.The box was playing everywhere on repeat, you name it -gyms,clubs,shopping centres .Never seen a song go that viral except blinding lights
@@Ayushmanz yeaa exactly & lil tecca too that ransom song was everywhere. j .cole too cause middle child & the london with young thug. also pop smoke was starting to blow up. 2019 was a very underrated year for music
I must say that it is really hard to make bangers back to back to back, constantly coming up with new songs that are just as good as the best ones is so much more difficult than people think.
@@Tristan-tj9uz Not really, you have to remember, once you've got it, people want to hear you do you, so as long as you're doing what they love you for you're going to make hit after hit until they get tired or you switch up. Roddy switched up more than once (I'm talking about his style). Look at Die Young, Down Below, Every Season, those songs are came up from the bottom music that everyone loved. He then started talking about a lot of fly sh*t that most people can't relate to so he slowly so a drop when it became repetitive. Then he made the Box which was a commercial song, he tried the same with Late At Night and High Fashion, it appealed to his TikToker fans but those guys are fickle and will jump on the next thing, so right now he's still trying to make those commercial songs not realising those fans were never going to stay down. Now his core fans have moved on because he lost their interest a long time ago when he traded them in for the quick run. His best bet is either being content with where he is or if he's lucky he can go the Tyga route and make chart music
“I will never sell my soul, and I can back that.” That’s simply why he experienced hardship in terms of success in the industry. They don’t play nice with people who refuse to play their games.
What you’re saying is true, very little know about this. The other clown just called it a fairytale but when you look at what’s going on in the music industry with some big artists with your 3rd eye, you see things ain’t normal. Tory lanez got thrown in jail for shooting Megan but you’ll never know if he did it, all cus he refused to join roc nation( and make the kinda music they want). There’s a bigger picture to this all I gotta say is Roddy made the right choice I’m proud to be his fan
i dunno why people say his music is bad his music now it is still good (not at his peak but still good). And he doesn't need to do rlly well and make many songs he is living life lavish.
I think it's actually worse that his music is just okay/average. Because there is such an influx of new talent that if it's not very good or very bad then people just forget about it and move to the next thing.
It was never good, but people were okay with that. We were buying the social media persona instead of the music. All that sound cloud shit is dying out. No one wants to see 69 yelling the same Spanish word over and over with fat bitch twerking anymore. No one wants to hear Roddy or Travis Scott say a bunch of random shit that doesn’t rhyme in an autotune robot voice. It was cool back then, but it didn’t last. That’s why the people who make real music without gimmicks will always do better than these flash in the pan type dudes.
Last year i went to a Roddy Rich show on Wireless festival, tbh is amazing, he has a band a whole production, most of rappers just have DJs. He said some nice stuff of why he cares about the fans and the show experience. And compared to other rappers that ive seen on the same festival like Lil Baby, Roddy is def more professional. Idk why his career stagnated so fast
Nah you probably seen him in Finsbury Park or Birmingham because I was on the same festival in Crystal Palace waiting for him , he was so late when he comes just sing 3 songs and left the stage …
Music industry is a fast paced, ever-changing industry. If you're not constantly churning out hits or keeping yourself in the limelight in some way, you're gonna fizzle out and be forgotten while some young up and comer takes your place. Roddy just doesn't put out enough music to stay relevant and a lot of his latest shit hasn't been up to par compared to his earlier songs. There's also the fact that music as a whole is an industry that relies on creativity and being a creative person, and creativity is something that can come and go as it pleases.
i do feel bad for roddy, the way fans treated him afterwards when bro was just tryna live his life and turn it around for better. i do believe he can make a comeback though his new stuff aint bad
Nah roddy got to feeling like was Michael Jackson or some shit and didn’t have to drop. Do you know how many different rappers have come out and got on the whole time he decided not to drop? 🤣
Bunch of so called fans, people expect every album to be fire and when it's not they wanna talk shit. Would rather be rich than famous, like the Migos said years ago. Because people switch up so fast, and try to cancel you for any little thing.
numbers equal popularity, which is what the record labels and fans, unfortunately, are looking for! If you can't put out major billboard hits and sells numbers, then you're forgotten now a days!
@@izamalcadosa2951 its really not that simple. My band is at 10m+ streams and 40k+ listeners per month, and we sell out 250-500 cap clubs on tour, meanwhile I know some bands that blew up on Spotify that get 10x as many streams as my music does and can barely get 40 people to come to their shows. Numbers matter but making a real connection with fans and entertaining them live is what gives you real growth/sustainability. No offense but I see so many comments in videos like this from people who really have no clue how the music industry works.
Honestly roddys biggest down fall was not taking advantage and dropping more music when he was number 1 like the baby. He dropped the best album then disappeared like he was Kendrick or Drake
Props for dude for at least trying therapy. It doesn’t work for everyone and can take a really long time to find a good therapist, but he tried and that’s what matters
bruh right? at least he made lots of money and made it. people are too critical of artists nowadays they expect people to drop something new every month or something and its ridiculous especially since most fans dont even pay for music these days
@@shaunvalentines4252 that it so true! I mean tbh I listen to everything off YT 🤷🏻♀️ But I do support artists I love by seeing them live as much as possible
@@shaunvalentines4252he did it to himself by bragging about how good that second album was it underperformed that's why artist shouldn't do that if Nipsey was here I'm sure he would have warned him about doing this. It puts you in a box that can crush you if you're not meeting people expectations with the music you're dropping.
Literally didn't even realize this much time has passed since Roddy got big in the music industry. I honestly hope he digs himself out of this slump. He's got so much untapped potential but seems to let his personal woes get in the way.
Spotify listeners doesn't mean anything! Putting out Billboard Hits is the number one measuring stick for success and album sells!! NBA Youngboy is another dude that has millions of spotify listeners yet can't put out major billboard hits that get into the top 10 or top 20, in general! Roddy is cool just not a superstar rapper now!
I feel like rappers need to understand it’s not about being the game forever or even a long time. If it’s something you want to do then cool, but it’s still a stepping stone
@TopCongoDreamer Lol the issue is most of the guys that are big now, their music will only last for the now. Unless you're a Curren$y with a crazy fanbase, you need to be able to either adapt or have a sound that people just won't get tired of. Drake learned to adapt, Jay-Z has a sound people won't get tired of although he somewhat adapted. Lil Wayne is a prime example of having a sound that people will eventually get tired of, Migos too. Lil Baby might be one of the few from his era that will survive and it's not only because of the music but the brand he's build around his image but as he gets older, that "young and being fly" shit will die down and he'll need to adapt just like Meek has needed to grow up from the young reckless street n*gga.
I agree. Not everyone can be a Drake or Jay Z (and I don't listen to both) New generation rappers falling off make even ones like Fetty Wap actually look good because at least he had that evergreen album
@PlayWitYoBitxh Idk anything about YB but I would argue it was a quality and repetitive issue in regards to Wayne because no one drops more frequently than Curren$y over the last decade yet his fan base has only grown. Of course, the scale level is different with Wayne but Drake drops frequently or he's always there, far more frequent than Jay and Drake run is getting up there. I always personally felt like Wayne had more mediocre music than top tier level music. Once in awhile he'd cross over to that top tier space but more often than not, I feel like it was a toss up.
@PlayWitYoBitxh Drake dabbles in a variety of music although I will only really listen to his rap stuff like Gold Roses, Lemon Pepper Freestyle, Is There More etc... Also, I think you're right in terms of having your own fanbase and carving out your lane but if your goal is to be one of the driving forces in the game and you're not that then you're irrelevant in relation to your goals. Wayne is irrelevant currently, he doesn't shape trends, sounds, fashion or lifestyle choices like he used to, now that's the other young guys like Lil Baby, even Drake has that influence and he's been in the game for a minute. As for Roddy, if he doesn't have a solid fanbase who are all these people that are rocking with him? Where are all these YT streams and tens of millions of streams coming from? How is he able to continuously get tours and bookings? That's all I want to know because he's clearly still outdoing 99% of rappers out there, how is that possible without a fanbase.
1.Got Distracted with Spending the Wealth. 2.Had a kid with a women who most likely was a red flag from the beginning. 3. Got Comfortable with the position he was in without knowing the foundation it was standing on wasn't as strong as it could've been. And Finally 4. Showed Aggression towards fans and got caught up in his emotions with haters
Bro HE IS the red flag. Drug problem, money spending problem and gang affiliation. You want someone like that around your kid? Crazy how some people look past anything a rapper does and blame everyone around them 🤦♂️
He is letting the critiques get into his head if he focus on music and believe in himself he wouldnt drop 1 album every 2 years scared of how people might react , yes he didnt deserve the reactions but he is gladly taking it in the comments , interview, and anywhere beside music.. The music industry is saturated now and you can be hot now and replaced by another artist the next day its important to drop the best u can consistently and build connection with your real fans..
I always thought his drop in numbers had something to do with his safety and laying low. If I remember correctly, he was real close to becoming a victim of gun violence when a spot he was at got shot up not took long after he tagged it on IG. I could be mistaken, but I wish Roddy the best
I'll be real, the numbers may not be where it was at his peak but the music isn't trash either, he actually makes quality music lol A lot of people just moved on but he doesn't need a song like Box or Die Young to be successful. You have guys like Curren$y that have core fans and do better than most artists. People are forgetting, he's still outperforming 99% of artists even at this point but his early music did well because it resonated with people and hit home hard. Anyone from that environment can relate to his early music heavy. The issue is, he shouldn't force that if it isn't his reality anymore, it's like listening to Jeezy still talking about Yay as if he's still in the streets lol it doesn't sound good.
@PlayWitYoBitxh I think Roddy actually has that, I just think he isn't content with it, he wants to be peak Roddy forever, Curren$y is another one with a core fan base and can eat forever and I'm Roddy could but he's not content, someone like Curren$y or as you said YB can be content with their fanbase. Also, hell no lol Jeezy needs to stop, enough of the whipping talk, we know he ain't in the streets anymore and we know what he used to do, can't talk about the same ish forever and expect his early fanbase to still be there. All of us have graduated from the streets and have properties and sh*t and so does Jeezy he should be talking about the stuff he's doing now.
@PlayWitYoBitxh I'm not gonna mention that rat you mentioned but Roddy Chase the bag, Die Young, Every Season, Down Below, Fucc it up, Ricch Vibes, none of that was because of the industry. As for saying that rat outsold him, well then by your logic Durk isn't relevant because the rat also outsold Durk. If you're comparing him to when he released The Box, of course, he would appear to be irrelevant but the guy is still out here dopping songs getting millions of views, he's still getting 21 million streams a month on Spotify, how is that falling off lol To put it into perspective, Durk is seen as one of the hottest things right now, he only gets 10 million more streams on spotify than Roddy, Jeezy only gets 4 million monthly listeners, NBA youngboy only gets 18 million listeners so Roddy gets more listeners than both of them. That's why I said you guys are comparing him to his absolute peak, if we're not speaking relatively and just speaking in general, he's still one of the biggest names in the game.
@PlayWitYoBitxh I never said he's hot, I said he's still outdoing most of these rappers. Hot is Lil Baby, again I'm not going to mention that rat you keep mentioning but after this he'll fall off, people only wanted to hear what the rat had to say based on current events. And doing 21 million a month on spotify alone not including Tidal, Apple Music and other platforms means he's seeing hundreds of thousands at the very miminum every month off of streaming alone, not too many artists can say that and that doesn't include if he has a deal with these platforms which isn't unheard of meaning a higher payout ratio. If he was doing a million per video, 600k streams a month or some sh*t like that, I'd agree with you but if doing tens of millions of streams a month is falling off while still doing shows getting paid better than most, then I think a lot of the artists you think are doing well would rather be falling off exactly like Roddy 😂
@@hakshustletv Roddy aint doing better than most rappers, thats pure cap, and he def fell off. The streets/crips don't fucc with him no more, hes a sellout. Get your face out his butt
People gotta remember tho that he experienced something very few rappers have , right when he was getting big and his album was on top COVID hit America & put the ENTIRE WORLD ON HOLD , he wasn’t even able to do a Tour for his album while it was hot 🔥, so really everybody’s mind was on other stuff besides music not just him
He took too much time off after the success of that album when he should've capitalized off it. He was supposed to keep his name hot. If he didn't want to drop his own stuff he could've did features or something. Can't just go ghost like you Kendrick when you haven't build up that cache
Mustard on the beat, ho [Chorus: Roddy Ricch] I put the new Forgis on the Jeep I trap until the bloody bottoms is underneath 'Cause all my niggas got it out the streets I keep a hundred racks inside my jeans I remember hittin' the mall with the whole team Now a nigga can't answer calls 'cause I'm ballin' I was wakin' up, gettin' racks in the morning I was broke, now I'm rich, these niggas salty [Verse 1: Roddy Ricch] All this designer on my body got me drip, drip, ayy Straight up out the Yajects, I'm a big Crip If I got a pint of lean, I'ma sip, sip I run the racks up with my queen like London and Nip But I got rich on all these niggas, I didn't forget, back I had to go through the struggle, I didn't forget that I hopped inside of the Maybach and now I can sit back These bitches know me now 'cause I got them big racks 'Cause I'm gettin' money now, I know you heard that Young nigga on the corner, bitch, I had to serve crack Uncle fronted me some P's, had to get them birds back We came up on dirty money, I gave it a birdbath Cut off the brain and I give my bitch a new coupe Either you from the Yah Gang or you're SuWoop Got a New Orleans bitch and man, that pussy voodoo And I'm that nigga now, who knew? You might also like The Pi Song (100 Digits of π) AsapSCIENCE Die For You (Remix) Ariana Grande & The Weeknd Area Codes Kali [Chorus: Roddy Ricch] I put the new Forgis on the Jeep I trap until the bloody bottoms is underneath 'Cause all my niggas got it out the streets I keep a hundred racks inside my jeans I remember hittin' the mall with the whole team Now a nigga can't answer calls 'cause I'm ballin' I was wakin' up, gettin' racks in the morning I was broke, now I'm rich, these niggas salty [Verse 2: Roddy Ricch] I been wakin' up to get the money, woah, woah Got a bad bitch, her ass tatted, woah, woah Givenchy to my toes, two twins, I'm fucking 'em both I put her in a new AP, the water like a boat I was down bad on my dick, where was you niggas at? I know you turned your back on me just to get some racks I seen you swerve back, 'cause I'm in the black 'Bach New diamonds on me, fuck a flash, this ain't Snapchat 'Cause I been gettin' paid Yellow diamonds on me look like lemonade Got my baby mama that new Bentayga Tryna get the dough, Joe, like a sensei, yeah Rolls Royce umbrellas when I'm in the rain I just mind my business I got brothers that did the time, I ain't kiddin' All these rappers just talk about it, I live it Goin' up, I ain't got no sky limit, yeah, yeah, yeah [Chorus: Roddy Ricch] I put the new Forgis on the Jeep I trap until the bloody bottoms is underneath 'Cause all my niggas got it out the streets I keep a hundred racks inside my jeans I remember hittin' the mall with the whole team Now a nigga can't answer calls 'cause I'm ballin' I was wakin' up, gettin' racks in the morning I was broke, now I'm rich, these niggas salty [Outro: Roddy Ricch] I, ayy, yeah I've been ballin', lil' nigga Now watch me ball on these niggas Yeah, now watch me ball on these niggas, yeah Now watch me ball on these niggas Now watch me ball on these niggas, yeah, yeah
Now this is where Song Writers come in, big players hits like Ariana grande, Rihanna and Taylor Swift were not written by them but the problem with Rap is using ghost writers can be even considered a crime.
i actually love roddy ricch icl. i think live life fast and feed the streets 3 aren’t his greatest pieces of work but aren’t bad at all either. there’s some great songs on them
Honestly, I will make the argument that an artist performing live should put on a show when performing and not just minimum effort in other genres of music the artist that put on good performances tend to gain more traction and respect from their fan base I think rap artist should definitely be held to a higher standard for their performances
I honestly thought that his last 2 albums werent that bad, they def didnt top his debut but i enjoyed a lot of songs on both albums. I'd say hes pretty consistent and i dont understand why people hate on him so much. Think hes just having fun and trying to get that bag, never thought of him as a numbers guy.
Please excuse me was generic. LLF was when he start branching out. FTS3 was a lot more personal. It's all about your purpose in listening to the music. A lot of people seem to not care for meaningful music so its not surprising to me that people are hating on his current work. As a artist hes only getting better imo.
I feel having your first album and first few single be major !! And big time makes that sophomore curse a lot more likely to happen and people want those same hits on the next album and that pressure can cause what happen to Roddy who had to go back to that Fed The Streets flow to come back I still think Roddy can continue to be great he has all the potential
The difference between him and lil baby was that lil baby was still doing features, did a collab album with Durk, and killing a Drake feature right after My Turn. Even though lil baby’s last album was hot garbage he still wasn’t getting the amount of hate Roddy got because he had kept working after that debut album. I just wished Roddy would’ve took the lil baby route.
Baby came out b4 too. So he was already established when my turn dropped. And his catalog was already good since he had mega hits like drip too hard an close friends from 2017. U would have to compare roddy with someone who came up in 2019 like polo or tjay
@@sergekoffibeats you right, but the only reason why I compared him to lil baby because he was hotter than the other 2 niggas you just named. And to be honest Feed the streets = Harder than ever. Feed the streets 2= Street Gossip. Please Excuse me for being anti social = My Turn. I feel like their albums/mixtapes equal honestly
I always think about how artists like future weren't A list in the early 2010s and found an audience with newer generations. If you fall off you shouldn't just stop right there
I remember when he released the box, that was how I found his music. I loved the album please excuse me for being anti social. One of my faves to this day! I hope to see him come back from this. He is talented
Idc what anyone says project dreams is such a banger. And the snippet he released that everyone clowned was fire I still wish he released that ngl. That said his last album weren’t that great
You guys are running too fast for no reason, now it's like 3 months with no songs? He disappeared. Didnt make a hit in one month? Fell off. Chill, let the artits create. Im sure all of you have many artists you love, focus on others and enjoy him when he puts stuff out goddamn, you fcking fastfood consumers, art needs time
Well..Its a curse to have such a massive song 2 years into your career.. People like drake,travis Future young thug, kendrick j.cole,YG,Tyga G eazy,MGK had small hit songs slowly n then had a major major hit song like 5-6 years into their career where they had a solid huge fanbase so the massive hit songs werent bigger than the artist.they Were more mature n had formed a formular for hit songs..
The problem with Roddy was that he waited too long to release his following album after his huge debut album and the following album didn’t even sound as complete and good as his debut album which adding that he was losing a lot of momentum already gave even more of a reason for people to hate
10:05 Chance The Rapper fell off? Since when!? His streaming numbers are still huge and he just made an estimated $8 Million for his first season as a judge/coach on The Voice.
Roddy Rich was clearly a industry plant. I recognized that sh*t the moment that box song was number 1. But i used to fall for industry gimmicks when i was a young hip hop consumer.
many comments talk like being a celebrity is easy. Bro I can’t even imagine having so much pressure on me on every step I take. You gotta be built for it or else you’ll fade away.
Rappers that have a lot going on in their private lives tend to have a tough time hiding it, if they try too hard then it's going to affect them in some way publically , look at NBA YB
Future rolled out an album 2 mixtapes per year n once he dropped 2 albums back to back n he had 5 years in the game n over 10 hits in his pocket n roddy ricch in just 2 years with one hit song thought he could stay 3 years before dropping his next project.. Well reality does smack people in the face..Hope he learns from that n he drops more consistent n better music
His music did start getting slightly worse but it unfortunately became a super trend to troll him saying he fell off so that brainwashed everyone to believe his music got terrible when really it was just a trend to hate on him. To make it worse he believed the trolls & couldn’t bounce back.
Never heard anyone reference The Box as a tik tok song, that was just a hit that was also on tik tok. Also his second album to live life fast wasn't that bad, his odd personality just got in his way.
That's what I'm saying. These white boys be doing the most on these RU-vid channels. They could at least hop in the stu and drop a hit song before they start talking shit.
