@@technik-lexikon I wasnt´t climbing these towers. Last time I was in Affensteine, I wanted to do Bloßstock Westwand, but my partner was affraid to do the traverse so we packed it. So hopefully next time. Also wanna do Wilde Zinne-Aehligweg, logical line and looks gut absicherbar. But it was too warm and sun was shining into it when we were there