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Roland TD4kp VS Roland TD11k 

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You can buy them both for about $700 right now, so which one is the best one?
TD4kp Pros:
Extreme Portability
Optional bag - $99 :(
TD4kp Cons:
No rimshot
Last Gen Drum module
TD11k Pros:
Better sounds
Larger pads
Rim zones on the toms and snare
Mesh snare
Better kick pad
TD11k Cons:
More expensive
Less portable
Probably About To Be Discontinued
The Roland TD4kp is best for Extreme portability
The Roland TD11k for just an all around better drumset
Also take a look at the Yamaha DTX522k (it's the best drumset for $800)
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Комментарии : 109   
@josuii118
@josuii118 7 лет назад
C'mon, man. We all know the unknown brand $200 e-drumset wins any day.
@65Drums
@65Drums 7 лет назад
hahaha
@Grit489
@Grit489 6 лет назад
65 Drums Jason do you think that Roland will replace the td11 anytime soon because I don't care for the td25 and can't afford a td50? Thanks for the great information.
@Abandoned978
@Abandoned978 6 лет назад
Not Joe Sue IKR the new AF69 from Alexis has rim shot and they upgraded from using rubber to brittle concrete, and I here it is gonna be able to last a whopping 3 hours
@bladewolling4947
@bladewolling4947 Год назад
Came across this video because I was looking on the Roland website for a really portable drum set for those times when I have to go to someone's house to practice just one song and time and space may be limited to lug my acoustic set. So, I see that the TD4kp is still available.
@p5gBand
@p5gBand 7 лет назад
howdy 65 drums -- i've been in the market for an electronic drums for a few months now and have been watching your videos. I must say that you've really helped me decide: I bought a TDK11 today. Thank you so much for all the information you've provided.
@65Drums
@65Drums 7 лет назад
Thanks dude :) glad the channel has been helpful :)
@JohnDRobinsonelectronicdrums
@JohnDRobinsonelectronicdrums 7 лет назад
a fine comparison video as always, Justin
@65Drums
@65Drums 7 лет назад
Thanks John :)
@mattryan6886
@mattryan6886 3 года назад
I got very lucky I bought my td-11kv for only 400$, only issue was no power cable. My first e-kit was the rock band ion premium kit, basically an Alesis Dm6 kit w/o Xbox controller module to control game. The Roland was my first “real” e/drum kit and it started me back on my drumming journey after 14 years of apartment living with no way to play my acoustic drums. The ion kit did have solid single zone pads and cymbals that I used to add extra crash and Tom to my kit. I really want the rack for this KP kit. I would take my mesh pads I still have left from my td-11kv and use them on this. I use an spd-30 as a mini kit for jam/writing sessions and small coffee shop gigs until the pandemic hit. I would love a folding kit with pdx pads to take with me instead. The SPD-30 with KT-10/Fd-8 pdx-6, CY-5 and CY-8 setup I use now is pretty good, I just would like to use my td-17 instead because I’m not very good at programming very good patches on spd-30 and unfortunately VEXPRESSIONS doesn’t make any settings packs:(
@kennethgibson5728
@kennethgibson5728 7 лет назад
I played the Roland TD-11KV V-drums recently and was surprised at how responsive the pads and cymbals were - add a TM2 for more sounds and sampling..
@65Drums
@65Drums 7 лет назад
True roland is always great with responsiveness.
@dd007x
@dd007x 3 года назад
In the UK a TD4KP is new £599. A few still around. I am bidding on a Yamaha dtxpress 3 on ebay. Been boxed for years new condition.
@jwc3104
@jwc3104 4 года назад
I love the idea of TD4KP. The way I see it... is that it lets you to play the drum at all. At that point, you really don't care about how the drum kit feels and looks. You're just glad that you get to play. Heck, if TD4 module is outdated, then just swap it with ATV, Pearl Mimic, or VST, since all the pads are compatible.
@modernbeachball
@modernbeachball 7 лет назад
Congrats on 9000 subs!
@65Drums
@65Drums 7 лет назад
Thanks Amir!!
@Texav21
@Texav21 7 лет назад
you should do this for some of the alesis kits
@65Drums
@65Drums 7 лет назад
I'll keep that in mind :)
@Texav21
@Texav21 7 лет назад
Thanx
@claessorensson225
@claessorensson225 6 лет назад
Thanks man, I appreciate your work!
@jazzpianoman01
@jazzpianoman01 6 лет назад
A good video; the TD11 is an awesome kit for its price range and really the deal breaker for me is the sound: as an experienced drummer for 40 years the sound is very close to,authentic sounding acoustic drums! The downside is the snake block isn't great because if one cable goes then you have to buy the whole block which is Roland's way of getting you to spend more money! However I don't agree with you here when you say the sound on the TD 11 could be better: these are, a said, very good acoustic sounding pads from an acoustic set up at this price! You can also upgrade these Tom pads to all mesh if you desire! The TD4kp I have played and yes agree that the lack of rim capability is a drawback but portability is the thing! TD11 is also great as I have folded up the entire kit and put it in the back of a taxi!
@StressStrings
@StressStrings 5 лет назад
Hey man ! Thanks for the videos and the help for finding a better gear! This is an even harder mission here in Brazil, because of the very high tributes we pay! The cheapest new TD11 found on the internet here costs 1340 dollars, can you believe it ? While the average monthly salary is 500 dollars !
@lorenzob976
@lorenzob976 6 лет назад
I got a td11 new for 750 in the netherlands!
@Sianpii96
@Sianpii96 6 лет назад
Love your videos man. Help me a lot
@65Drums
@65Drums 6 лет назад
Thanks man! Glad you like the channel :)
@ZaxDrumsandGolf
@ZaxDrumsandGolf 7 лет назад
I personally would buy the TD11K if I would buy one of those two!! Another cool info video!! I have the big hockey puck bass pad on my Yamaha lol!!
@65Drums
@65Drums 7 лет назад
Thanks man haha
@2008yz250f4ever
@2008yz250f4ever 6 лет назад
Hey Justin I have a budget of $700 for an electric kit. Space is an issue since this kit will be going on my boat since that’s where I am currently living till the place I rent gets rebuilt which will take awhile. I have been looking at the td4kp is there any other models from any make I can look up that are smaller in size just due to the space I have? I am pretty sure the td 4 is probably the best bet since it can fold up so small but just wanted to see since your so experienced if you knew of any other kits that aren’t much bigger that are better. Thanks so much!
@sebastiangomezmusic
@sebastiangomezmusic Месяц назад
I’m debating between a used Roland TD4KP for around $350 and a new Alesis Nitro Max. This will be for my beginner drum students and to carry to their recitals without breaking my back. Having something compact and easy to pack up is really important to me. What do you suggest?
@sabravof
@sabravof 5 лет назад
Great video. Just bought a TD4KP for my childrens for 600 USD and i think i made the right decision, the TD11 maybe is just too big for them at age 7
@johndef5075
@johndef5075 6 лет назад
Ive seen td11 for as low as $640 on ebay now that the td17 is out. Nice for that price.
@abhitchavan9943
@abhitchavan9943 6 лет назад
Plzzzz make td4kp vs yamaha dtx450k..Thank you
@galeadis
@galeadis 6 лет назад
Hi!!your videos are great.!!they don't get me tired at all!!Very rare in youtube.!!Can you do a video about the new TD-1 KPX2??
@65Drums
@65Drums 6 лет назад
Thanks man! I'll keep the video idea in mind :)
@jaimecastro2283
@jaimecastro2283 2 года назад
Posso agregar uma máquina de chimbal na TD1-KV ?????
@gatelambert2351
@gatelambert2351 4 года назад
But for the under $300, would you recommend buying a used TD4K or an Alesis Nitro (mesh) kit? Would really appreciate the advice! I'm just a beginner!
@gamingbraaa7698
@gamingbraaa7698 4 года назад
Hey have you figured out which one is better for the price? Im having the exact same problem right now...
@gatelambert2351
@gatelambert2351 4 года назад
@@gamingbraaa7698 I ended up going for the TD4KP because portability was more important. Really nice kit but haven't tried the Alesis Nitro so no basis for comparison, sorry!
@gamingbraaa7698
@gamingbraaa7698 4 года назад
@@gatelambert2351 thanks a lot u cleared my doubts a bit im leaving the house right now to get my new used TD4K
@takinoe
@takinoe 5 лет назад
l find the TD-4KP a very complete drumset. I have played acoustic drums for over 25 years in rock bands and jazz / big bands, and recently switched to an electronic kit, which had to be portable. This drumkit offers all the possible sounds I need. It would help though if you indicate how the drum module of the TD--4KP differs from the TD11 instead of just saying that the one is better over the other. The CB-TDB bag may be expensive, but it's good quality and made to measure. I wonder if other bags of this size are much less expensive...
@charleslehnen9636
@charleslehnen9636 4 года назад
How about TD4 versus TD1K? Those are more similar in price (and in size) for used sets at this point
@Pharesm
@Pharesm 4 года назад
I'm listening to you over really good near field monitors, actually I've even switched you over to my Yamaha DSR12's and I think your microphone could use some more/different EQ, cause the high frequencies of your voice come across so harsh, they almost crackle. I understand that high frequencies help make people easy to understand, but I think you've overshot on this ;-) No matter, your videos are really good ^^
@jimmygriswold9258
@jimmygriswold9258 3 года назад
Builder sounds fine on my iPad. You are one of 2 people in the world watching these videos from those monitors. I understand your intentions are good.
@swankieracorn2170
@swankieracorn2170 7 лет назад
Great Video! Personally, I can't stand smaller drumsets because it makes me feel like I am playing with a toy. Like for $800 I would either go with the Yamaha for the price or the Alesis Crimson-X because I cannot stand tiny edrums.
@65Drums
@65Drums 7 лет назад
Gotcha
@josesalsa5931
@josesalsa5931 6 лет назад
Can you do a video about good but cheap drumsets for a beginner please
@AndLOLGG
@AndLOLGG 7 лет назад
I feel like I am one of the persons you're referring to, regarding the need-to-go-compact. ;) Nice comparison! A thing you left out was the difficulty in adding an extra cymbal to the 4kp. It is possible, but you need to get a splitter cable for the ride I have read, and take one of its zones, and then edit it in one of the menus. The 11 manages the extra cymbal with no issue at all. Also, the original TD-4 had an extra cymbal Out from the module whereas the TD-4kp doesn't. Compactness...
@65Drums
@65Drums 7 лет назад
Good point :(
@nyrissxd
@nyrissxd 6 лет назад
so i cant just plug in other cymbals to the td4 module? because there are two more plugs on the back. or do i have to use drumsplitter?
@adebirkby5289
@adebirkby5289 6 лет назад
For an existing TDK4P owner is it worth upgrading to the TD11? I love the compactness of the TDK4P, it sounds pretty good and tends to be used for practice and recording. I understand Super Natural sounds are a step up in terms of quality and behaviour making it more "studio like" but is it really worth the upgrade? From a recording perspective, the average person can't tell its not an acoustic kit (people can't tell on my EP), and whilst I love drums they will never be my main instrument (not many singer songwriters play solo with drums). I looked at upgrading the module and its not much more to buy the entire kit (and therefore cheaper in the long run after selling the TDK4P).
@aluepke1
@aluepke1 6 лет назад
Hey Justin. When is Roland going to come out with the new version of the TD11? I really want to try the electric side of drumming but this kit came out 6 years ago and with it being Roland’s best selling model they’ve got to come out with a new version soon right? I saw the k and kv each dropped 100$ to be 800$ and 1300$. Any word from your sources? I want to buy a kit now but if they’re coming out soon with the 11 replacement, I’ll wait!
@ihaveriffs8261
@ihaveriffs8261 6 лет назад
With the TD-4KD, can you move the original rubber snare over to the right side and use it as a fourth tom? I already have a stand-alone mesh snare that I would like to combine with a kit like this. I also already have an Alesis I/O and pro software. I also have a couple of KD10 pedals, which I’m very happy with. I may also go with an isolated hi-hat stand and I imagine I’ll have a pretty killer and still quite portable drum kit!
@elbettto
@elbettto 3 года назад
What I matter the most about the drumset is the sensitivity of the pads, it means from 0 to 127. How accurate they are about that?? Thanks!
@ruthruthless
@ruthruthless 5 лет назад
If I already have the TD-11 and considering buying the mobile set, can I use my snare and kick from TD-11 and have the rim sensors work? Also kind of wondering if I could somehow combine the two sets to have more toms and cymbals... like, maybe somehow set up both and connect them both and use Cubase to run sounds?
@drakezimmerman4054
@drakezimmerman4054 Год назад
You can! I have some mesh pads from an off brand site with dual trigger pads and cymbals. As well as a Roland hi hat and cy-5 cymbal. My td-11 is my main system. I have a Bluetooth transmitter for Spotify from my phone that does into the td-4 mix in. Then I do a line out from the td-4 into the td-11 mix in. I now have 2 extra cymbals/ kick drum and snare. Hope that helps!
@1997mrrock
@1997mrrock 6 лет назад
Man! Love your videos! I need your advice, the thing is that i’m looking for a drumkit just to use it as midi and record drums at garageband. Any suggestions?
@gabrielpagano2566
@gabrielpagano2566 6 лет назад
Hey Justin. I'm a begginer an I want to start playing drums. I don't have much space at my room but I want a quality drumset. I made some research and I found a TD 4kx2. Should I buy this drumset and the TD 11 module?
@manansarupria600
@manansarupria600 6 лет назад
Hey, I am planning to upgrade my Roland TD4-kp kit with a kd-9 kick pad to accommodate a double bass pedal. I was wondering if it is possible to do so. I am having doubts about the spacing around the kd-9 pad. Please help !
@veltri8134
@veltri8134 7 лет назад
Is there a way to Get the Td11k Bass drum tower plugged into the td4kp drum module
@AtTheSourceStudios
@AtTheSourceStudios 7 лет назад
yes no problem just plug the new bass drum in using the kick cable
@65Drums
@65Drums 7 лет назад
Like he said
@codyplaysthedrums11
@codyplaysthedrums11 6 лет назад
Is it possible to get an external kick pad for the td4kp to play with a double bass pedal
@xDaesongRose
@xDaesongRose 5 лет назад
What do you think of the Roland TD4KX compared to the TD1DMK
@alexhimik70
@alexhimik70 6 лет назад
so what electric drums you recomend for begginer? i wanted to buy the td11k
@drumm3r979
@drumm3r979 5 лет назад
Add a double kick on the td 11k
@MichaelMajeran
@MichaelMajeran 7 лет назад
Hello Justin, have you every done a video on td-11kv? Is it sebsible to compare it to 11k, ot is it just a different level?
@65Drums
@65Drums 7 лет назад
I haven't done video on it actually. I should though. The only difference are the cymbals, and some tom pads
@MichaelMajeran
@MichaelMajeran 7 лет назад
65 Drums thx
@MrJbirm744
@MrJbirm744 3 года назад
Does the td4kp have aux input?
@dhruvleekha5074
@dhruvleekha5074 7 лет назад
Hey Justin, when the TD-11K gets upgraded, do you think it will be much more expensive?
@65Drums
@65Drums 7 лет назад
I have a feeling it might :/
@henryascott1207
@henryascott1207 6 лет назад
is the td11 portable ? can i use it for like busking ?
@WRcain88
@WRcain88 6 лет назад
So I'm new to the electric drums but say if I bought the td11k and ended up in the future buying a nicer Roland ride that has all 3 zones 1. it would work with that drum module correct? 2. if it does will it automatically have the 3 zones or would I have to set it up or would it even be possible with that older module?
@65Drums
@65Drums 6 лет назад
yes its compatible as long as it's from roland
@orsapir7480
@orsapir7480 7 лет назад
?hey, can you please explain what is the difference between td-4k2 and the td-4kp is there any significant difference other than the outside appearance?
@65Drums
@65Drums 7 лет назад
The TD4k2 was the older module. Same pads as the TD11k. The New TD4kp is meant to be portable, and the pads aren't as good.
@PombaAbusada
@PombaAbusada 7 лет назад
Is the td4kp exactly the same as the td4, except for the fact that it is portable??
@65Drums
@65Drums 7 лет назад
Some of the ports are different I hear, and the pads are different. There are quite a few differences actually.
@mjlacourse5757
@mjlacourse5757 6 лет назад
Hey do you know if you can play along to an external device (mix in) and record only the drums on the output (USB or line out)?
@jwrecka231
@jwrecka231 5 лет назад
I have a td11k and yes it has all the options you need for recording. Midi or mp3 mix or straight line out to a device.
@agustinparodi6362
@agustinparodi6362 7 лет назад
Thanks for the video. Do you know if TD4kp can be set up for leftys?
@65Drums
@65Drums 7 лет назад
+Agustin Parodi yes it can! :)
@YUDI180291
@YUDI180291 6 лет назад
Hey Justin, do u think the TD 4KP will be upgraded anytime soon?
@knarkill26
@knarkill26 5 лет назад
Yeah the upgraded the kick trigger to double bass and all mesh head but a useless td-1 module
@PanosGeorgiadis
@PanosGeorgiadis 7 лет назад
Is there something like the most silent e-drum kit ever? I have downstairs and old granny and upstairs my landlord :P
@65Drums
@65Drums 7 лет назад
+Panos Georgiadis good video idea
@andym28
@andym28 7 лет назад
Panos Georgiadis two things I do I turn the bass drum on the ground so I can tap it with my feet rather than using a loud pedal. I also use soft grip tape on my sticks to deaden it a bit.
@liljuan0665
@liljuan0665 6 лет назад
Can you give me feedback of my td-4 I bought it for $350 and was wondering if it's worth there's not a lot of YT videos about it
@65Drums
@65Drums 6 лет назад
The TD4 came out in the early 2000s so that's why there's not alot of coverage on it. It's good for the price
@spindreams
@spindreams 7 лет назад
Forget both, get a Alesis Crimson
@65Drums
@65Drums 7 лет назад
That's an option too
@jakesmith4118
@jakesmith4118 6 лет назад
Does the brain have an extra input so I could add another cymbal pad?
@65Drums
@65Drums 6 лет назад
which one?
@jakesmith4118
@jakesmith4118 6 лет назад
65 Drums the 11
@65Drums
@65Drums 6 лет назад
yes you can add an extra cymbal
@thebossgnat948
@thebossgnat948 7 лет назад
My td11s kick bad didn't move around. Maybe because I had it on carpet
@65Drums
@65Drums 7 лет назад
Interesting
@sneakyshadow7996
@sneakyshadow7996 6 лет назад
My opinion is that the td4 module don't have good sounds. You cant make a custom kit and there is no good kit
@juanortega9355
@juanortega9355 7 лет назад
what do you think about www.karrace.com they make drum pads that are large and not so expensive, but idk if it will last as long or play like its suppose to.
@65Drums
@65Drums 7 лет назад
Interesting, I've never heard of that edrum company before :) They look nice, but like you, I don't know for sure how good they are.
@osling1980
@osling1980 5 лет назад
literally
@sarahmoify
@sarahmoify 7 лет назад
TD11s are going for 1200..............
@65Drums
@65Drums 7 лет назад
I'm not sure where you live, but In the USA the TD11k costs $1000 brand new and $700 used.
@Grit489
@Grit489 6 лет назад
The snare samples on the td11 are horrible and total crap, buy a Yamaha dtx 502 !
@jackhwthorne
@jackhwthorne 6 лет назад
I cannot tell if this video is a joke or not. Like it's not April fools, but you picked a set that someone sees and laughs. Like I'm really confused
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