Roland VH-11 Setup

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This is a short setup video about the VH-11 electronic hi hat cymbal.
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This is a setup video about the VH-11 hihat pad.
First make sure the cymbal rod isn’t loose. It has to be tight, your hihat will spin otherwise. Tighten it on the mechanic at the bottom of the stand and in the middle, you can use a gripper for it. Also change the spring tension of the hihat stand as the vh-11 pad is really heavy.
Remove the felt and apply the insulating plate before attaching the motion sensor. The jack plug has to point to the right side. Apply the cymbal including clutch, don’t tighten the clutch screw yet. Make sure that the name “Roland” on the hihat is on the opposite side of the stand from the hihat pedal
Plug in the cables and secure them in place with a cable tie, while leaving some slack in the cables.
Adjust the gap between the metal portion in the center of the lower hihat and the sensor’s center tip to a clearance of approximately 3 mm, then tighten the clutch screw.
Press setup, trigger and advanced on the module to see the hihat sensor menu. Press the pedal carefuly down and tighten the cutch screw. The indicator shows a half open hihat.
Which means the clutch is not applied at the right position.
You shouldn’t hear this metallic noise if you close the hihat. Otherwise you’ll need to twist the nut on the clutch. Turn it to the right side (closed) until the noise is gone.
Now change the position of the clutch again. Loose the screw, press the pedal a bit down and fix it again. Repeat this step until the indicator is on top of the scale. However the indicator should react as soon as the pedal gets pushed.
Time for a test. Check out if the hihat triggers accurate while playing. It shouldn’t spin.

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15 окт 2024

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@TheOriginalCoda 9 лет назад

There is a better way to set the cymbal height. Loosen the clutch and let the cymbal rest on the sensor. THEN while looking at the hi-hat gauge, twist the adjustment nut above the hat until the arrows are in the correct place. After that just adjust the clutch to set the hat to desired opening.

@Cheekeemunkey 5 лет назад

I had left the foam insert on my hi hat stand. Now removed it and much better. Thanks.

@JonathanMorley 9 лет назад

Thanks for this video! I was able to get the hi hat on my TD-25kv working and sounding the way I wanted and expected.

@Vdrumtips1 9 лет назад

Jonathan Morley Cool, how is the TD-25?

@JonathanMorley 9 лет назад

It's amazing! For the most part transitioning from my acoustic set to the TD-25 is effortless. However there is a bit of an adjustment using the smaller toms. I love the fact that I can load music on a flash drive and play along with the tracks. The response and dynamic-range of all the pads truly feels and sounds real and the ability to tweak the sound, tuning, muffling and instrument of each pad allows for a more personalized and custom sounding set.

@Vdrumtips1 9 лет назад

Sounds good. Thanks for the answer.

@franciscojoseolivero3409 8 лет назад

+Jonathan Morley Jonathan what do you think about the snare drum? I sometimes feel that ghost notes are really small in volume whereas the other strokes sound really loud in comparision, have you experienced something similar?

@JonathanMorley 8 лет назад

Francisco José Olivero I've noticed that if I hit the snare dead center it tends to be noticeably louder than hitting just off center. The volume and sensitivity are adjustable. For the most part though this snare is the best electronic one I've used. I am more disappointed with the lack of bass from the floor tom.

@crollwtide9452 4 года назад

If you happen to have a Roland RDH-120 hi-hat stand, there is a tightening bold on the part that connects to the pedal chain. Once the center rod is placed into the base, use the L-wrench that came with the kit to lock the center rod at the bottom and arrest its ability to be screwed back out of the base.

@michaelfornaro1126 3 года назад

I have the td 27. I can not get the high hat sound correct. I'm using dw3000 stand. It is new as well. Help me please 🙏

@aMegaMaxProductions 8 лет назад

Thank you so much for the help! The manual was not very clear with the setup and k have never used an acoustic stand before, thanks!

@Vdrumtips1 8 лет назад

+mAKz Glad it helped you:)

@franciscojoseolivero3409 8 лет назад

+Vdrum Tips I own a td25, but it seems like i cant get the splash efect with my hi hat that youll get in an acustic drum by pressing the pedal and realising it rapidly, do you know if this feature is avialable or not?. Sory if my question is not clear, this is not my native language :)

@Vdrumtips1 8 лет назад

Good question, it should be included. Especially since it is a TD-25. What does the user manual say?

@franciscojoseolivero3409 8 лет назад

+Vdrum Tips Wow! that was a fast reply! :), Well, it says: The hi-hat sound will change smoothly between open and closed depending on pressure applied to the hi-hat control pedal or a hi-hat stand (Stand in my case). Foot closed and foot splash sounds are possible. (Im not sure if this last part reffers to fully open and fully closed, or the splash im talking about :s, but ive changed configuration several times in order to achieve this, and cant get it to work).

@Vdrumtips1 8 лет назад

Is your hihat stand good enough? Does it have a strong enough spring?

@marcusbirylaby 5 лет назад

is it that bad with a TD 4 module?

@cinnamon2906 3 года назад

how do i stop it from spinning, i made sure the rod is tight but it still spins

@Gabby4637 3 года назад

Inquiring about the vh-11 is it the same cable as td-17kv coz i want to replace as china

@mikecastor2047 4 месяца назад

I wish this worked for mine but it didn’t. I can barely get the high hat sensor to move on my module. It works once in a while but not consistently.

@scott2574 5 месяцев назад

Relevant on a TD-17KVX. Solved my clicking noise! Halelujah.

@sonor922 5 лет назад

This video should show how to set up the clutch.

@JohnBarrylizard 5 лет назад

By any chance will this work on my Roland TD-3 and Superior Drummer 3? It'd be nice to have a realish high-hat.

@sampledrummer4514 4 месяца назад

What kind Mapex hi hat stand is this?

@ShawnxEdge 2 года назад

The noise it makes is louder than the kick pedal. Is this normal?

@xXSymexXx 8 лет назад

hey, i have a question and maybe you can help me. I have the Td-25 Module and it has 2 trigger-inputs. So i can only expand 2 more cymbals, hi-hat or whatever? Or can i play with more than 2 extra cymbals?

@mistertgmistertg Год назад

Very usefull even in 2023

@richardplatt2020 2 года назад

Is this compatible with the TD-1dmk?

@EduTred 9 лет назад

Hey, great video! Just a suggestion to a new video: several edrummers have problem with hi hat and drum samplers, how about doing a video regarding hihat setup in a specific drum sample software? Thanks!

@Vdrumtips1 9 лет назад

+EduTred Thanks for the idea. It is a good idea, but I only have one sampler for the moment and only the VH-11, which could not help people with a cy-5 or any other hihat. Different modules than Roland do usually all have problems with the hihat, even without samplers. So it would be really hard to provide an overall solution. I could do something about the hihat on EZD2.

@EduTred 9 лет назад

+Vdrum Tips Hello, I'm not sure if an overall solution exists. For the VH-11, half of the solution you gave with this video! As a suggestion, you could make a video for each case in particular. for instance: Vh-11 with ezd2, and when you have another samples or hi-hats, vh-11 with ssd4, cy-5 with superior drummer. Ideas for new videos would be "endless", lol. Thanks, great channel! Regards,

@Vdrumtips1 9 лет назад

This would be possible. VH-11 with EZD2. Great idea. I will make a note:)

@davidsculfor6283 6 лет назад

I'm puzzled by this as it's very different from what's in the manual, and gives a very different setting i.e. there is no clearance between the controller and the pad (should be 3 to 5mm according to the manual). In fact the manual specifically advises against this. Both seem to work OK, but the video method gives much less movement between fully closed and fully open, around 10mm compared with 15+. They can't both be right so which is it Roland?

@JHPRS 6 лет назад

Can you tell me what is the Roland unit, just below the drum module, in the video?

@drummer92192 4 года назад

Can any cymbal pad go on the sensor?

@jesusmeinretter5454 5 лет назад

Does it work with the Xdrum DD530 Module? Or only for Roland Modules?

@Vdrumtips1 5 лет назад

Most e-drum modules cannot interpret the VH-11 signal correctly, so no to your Drum module. The only modules that are good with VH-11 are Roland Modules and the Pearl Mimic.

@idanyow 6 лет назад

Hey channel owner, is one of your videos relevant to an issue where VH11 triggers only head and not RIM? So when I play the RIM it triggers the Head as seen on the module...

@Vdrumtips1 6 лет назад

No, sorry. That could be either your module, the cable, the connector at the cymbal, or the piezo in the cymbal. Most likely an easy fix. Send me an email to info@v-drumtips.com

@idanyow 6 лет назад

Well, few days have passed, and it started working properly again.

@benjascs1697 8 лет назад

hi! can i upgrade the TD-11 hi hat to a Goedrum GH6 13" Electronic Hi-Hat???

@Vdrumtips1 8 лет назад

Yes, it is similar to the VH-11, but not as good. Josh Camerons goedrum controller did not last for 1 year. Get a second hand VH-11.

@benjascs1697 8 лет назад

So its made out of bad quality materials?

@Vdrumtips1 8 лет назад

I would not say bad quality, but definitely lower quality, otherwise it would not be as cheap.

@pablogodi2934 9 лет назад

Hi, have you tried it whit a cable HiHat action, like Millenium DCH-SET01?

@Vdrumtips1 9 лет назад

+Pablo Godi No, but it is a great solution to keep the set flexible and small. I tried the cable hihat in a shop, but not together with vh.11.

@mynz2002 6 лет назад

Can I use this VH-11 with TD 3?

@MarcovanRoth1962 7 лет назад

I heard the VH-11 works with the Pearl EPro R.E.D. Box. Can you confirm?

@Vdrumtips1 7 лет назад

I cannot confirm this, as I have not tested it. I think the VH-11 works with a lot of modules. The question is: How well does it work? The hi-hat is only as good as the module, so I would think about getting another module that is made to support the VH-11.

@randy3163 9 лет назад

+Vdrum Tips Is it normal that my cymbal moves when my charlestone is open? It does not move much ( from left to right about 2cm ) .

@Vdrumtips1 9 лет назад

+Randy MetsFan Yes, the long hihat stand rod is rotation a bit towards both directions, like a torsion spring. Totally normal.

@randy3163 9 лет назад

+Vdrum Tips Ok, thank you!

@eduardoarancibia6285 9 лет назад

Vh11 viene con el hithat incluido? O sirve cualquier pedestal de hithat?? Gracias

@Vdrumtips1 9 лет назад

Eduardo Arancibia Bueno, is the only Spanish word I know.... Can you write English please? :)

@MattyPS 4 года назад

My VH-11 spins, does anyone else have this problem?

@gary1chester 9 лет назад

Question: you say the jack plug on the sensor needs to point to the right. Why is this ?

@Vdrumtips1 9 лет назад

+John Smith I assume that you lead the 2 cables together to the hihat, so it makes sense to make it point to the right. I does not have to be this way though.

@gary1chester 9 лет назад

+Vdrum Tips Ok cheers for that reply. Good videos by the way.

@Vdrumtips1 9 лет назад

+John Smith Thank you John

@juaco051972 8 лет назад

Can I use it with the TD1K module? Thanks

@Vdrumtips1 8 лет назад

+Joaquin Sacanell No, the TD-1 is not made for upgrades. i would suggest to sell your TD-1 kit and buy a better kit before upgrading to VH-11.

@happydaydreamer1 8 лет назад

Great video, thanks!

@Vdrumtips1 8 лет назад

You are welcome.

@TheKendoggie 8 лет назад

When I adjust the tension on the stand, Should it have more or less tension?

@Vdrumtips1 8 лет назад

+luke do you mean the tension of the stands spring?

@TheKendoggie 8 лет назад

+Vdrum Tips yeah that's what I mean, thanks for quick reply..

@Vdrumtips1 8 лет назад

+luke Usually you need high tension to cope with the weight of the VH-11. A weak spring would make it reacting slow wouldn't it? :)

@TheNorwegianGhoul 9 лет назад

hey, does the hi hat work with other modules like the alesis dm10

@Vdrumtips1 9 лет назад

+NorwegianKISSfan123 Not sure, but I guess it does not work as good. I recommend getting a used TD-9 or 12.

@TheNorwegianGhoul 8 лет назад

+Vdrum Tips you seem like the right guy to ask, im thinking of getting the td 12 but im not sure yet. is it better than the td 9? have you tried it, and in that case how is the sounds?

@Vdrumtips1 8 лет назад

The sounds are worst, everything else is better. the TD-12 is my number 1 choice for the moment. It is technically the best module on the marked, sold for 500-600€/$. It has positional sensing on snare and ride and can be extended with other modules. The bad sound does not matter if you use it with a software like Superior Drummer 2.0. All in al, the TD12 combined with SD2.0 is a killer combination and the very best you can get at the moment for a small budget.

@TheNorwegianGhoul 8 лет назад

Hmmm...... i can actually get the whole kit for 410 € with cymbals,rack,toms,vh11 with hi hat stand. so i guess it is worth it

@Vdrumtips1 8 лет назад

A whole TD-12 kit with hihat? If this is really the case, you'd go for it.

@respectpartii6302 7 лет назад

Can i use it on Alesis crimson Kit?

@Vdrumtips1 7 лет назад

I think so, but it will not work properly I guess.

@AItemusPrime 9 лет назад

My VH-11 sounds horrible and I can't figure our what is wrong. It makes a sound every time I lift my foot off the pedal and the bow sounds awful. Mine is hooked up to my TD 30 and I don't can't figure out how people can get it to sound so real.

@Vdrumtips1 9 лет назад

+AItemusPrime Could it be that the VH-11 is too heavy for your hihat stand? You will never achieve a good function if this is the case.

@AItemusPrime 9 лет назад

It was the stand that came with the kit so I would expect it to work properly

@Vdrumtips1 9 лет назад

It should, but the springs inside the stand can become weak after a while. Did you set it up like I did in the video? Connect the right cables?

@AItemusPrime 9 лет назад

+Vdrum Tips followed every step

@Vdrumtips1 9 лет назад

+AItemusPrime Is it actually only the sound itself or the function?

@bailey12444 7 лет назад

Thanks this video was really helpful

@banaantjexx164 8 лет назад

Can I use this hi-hat with the TD-11 module??

@Vdrumtips1 8 лет назад

+banaantjexx164 Yes, the VH-11 works perfect with the TD-11.

@banaantjexx164 8 лет назад

+Vdrum Tips well, thank you. I was worried if it would or not.

@rijoragh7263 8 лет назад

does it mean it works with the TD-11KV as well?? im new to electronic drums set up, and recently got a td11kv, but the hihat on that has very limited express-ability.

@banaantjexx164 8 лет назад

+Rijo RagH TD11k and kv both use the same module...

@rijoragh7263 8 лет назад

Thanks mate, i figured as much, but no harm in getting it clarified. Thank! Also can th Vh-11 be used on a standard acoustic drum hi hat stand?

@forzamicha46 9 лет назад

I got a vh 13 but i am afraid it won't work with my td 15 module ...

@Vdrumtips1 9 лет назад

I think it is more of a high end hi hat, for the TD-30.

@forzamicha46 9 лет назад

Yes i made a mistake and ordered a b-stock vh-13 from a famous music shop from Germany and i read somewhere that it might not work very well with the td-15 module and even with the td-20 , what a mess :(

@Vdrumtips1 9 лет назад

You can either sell it or buy a td-30

@TheOriginalCoda 9 лет назад

Vdrum Tips Or sell the VH-13 and the TD-15 and with the money, buy a 2box module from "that same company in Germany" and a real-feel Hihat from Jobeky in UK.

@forzamicha46 9 лет назад

TheOriginalCoda well it works , i am using the vexexpression so it works like a charm ! ;)

@daniloguimaraes88 3 года назад

Thank You so much!

@kokia333 6 лет назад

Td8 compatible?

@Vdrumtips1 6 лет назад

Partially, it does work, but not as good as VH-11 and TD9 for example.

@ssh8448 8 лет назад

CAN I USE THAT HI HAT ON A YAMAHA DTX 500?

@Vdrumtips1 8 лет назад

I don't know, sorry. Check the v-drums.com forum. People there will probably know.

@Vdrumtips1 7 лет назад

I guess so, but it will not work well. It is made for Roland modules. So I would recommend buying a matching module.

@kiopl2003 8 лет назад

gear4music is currently sellign this hi hat for half price. in an opened box.

@CesarLeite 9 лет назад

Another great tip. I had this spinning problem ;-) Thanx.

@Vdrumtips1 9 лет назад

Thanks Cesar:)

@forzamicha46 9 лет назад

Agree :)

@m22110 7 месяцев назад

This is incorrect way to calibrate

@peteshannon5194 7 лет назад

"You can use a WHAT"? "BH-11"? "Symbol"? "Plack in.."? "Tighten the WHAT"? Sorry, but I don't know what she is pl%&ck&¤ing about. Please use some text overlay tool next time, instead. Thanks for the video anyhow :-)

@RogueDesignsOfficial 7 лет назад

Pete Shannon alright Pete mate chill your beef people from other countries do exist... you're lucky they're even speaking english as it's clearly not their first language

@Nurokami 7 лет назад

Can I use this on the TD-11KV ?

@Matus0919 7 лет назад

will this work with the behringer xd80 usb ????

@Vdrumtips1 7 лет назад

I don't think so.

@Matus0919 7 лет назад

thank you very much that was also my thoughts because my kit has 2 cables 1 for the hi hat pedal and one for the hi-hat pad and this seems to only have 1