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Rollerball : Gladiators, “Corporatism” and Proto-Cyberpunk Dystopia 

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@MrSquigglies
@MrSquigglies Месяц назад
That Paul Harrell comment hits different now...
@michaelmayo
@michaelmayo Год назад
There's an ironic note to all this. When Jewison was making the film, he was annoyed that the stunt team would get together on the down time between setups and actually play the game. They loved it, and apparently there were even inquires about making Rollerball a real sport. And yeah, the remake really stunk.
@feralhistorian
@feralhistorian Год назад
It does seem like it would be a fun game. Until someone got hit with a motorcycle anyway.
@Sedgewise47
@Sedgewise47 Год назад
Oh come on! The remake wasn’t THAT bad. Granted, not really connected to the original film’s premise, but… OK, it was rather stupid, but a good popcorn flick IMO. (😏I’ll give this much: this seems to be first film where the Good Guys were trying to flee *into* Russia…)
@sheets75
@sheets75 4 месяца назад
Sort of like how anyone who watches The Blood of Heroes/Salute of the Jugger is compelled to try and create a relatively safe version of Jugger to play in real life.
@johnard611
@johnard611 Час назад
I've read that some version of rollerball was played at the filming location in Berlin for two or three years after the movie was made. I've also read that the stunt team peed on the rollerball track on the last day of filming, so perhaps they got tired of the game.
@rexpowercolt5230
@rexpowercolt5230 Год назад
Its so cool to see this channel before it gets big, theres gold here.
@feralhistorian
@feralhistorian Год назад
Thanks, appreciate it.
@gadzilla6664
@gadzilla6664 Год назад
Paul Harell of Nerdom. 😂😂😂 Also:Paul rocks. 🤘
@steveelder5306
@steveelder5306 Месяц назад
RIP Paul Harrell
@danschneider7531
@danschneider7531 Год назад
That was a good film. But an even scarier film, from the late 60s, is Seconds, w Rock Hudson as a man who is given a fantasy life by a corporation/cult, and then regrets it, but finds he is on a production belt, of sorts. It has this film's would be oligarch- Will Geer- Grampa on the Waltons, as well as a biting critique of shallow consumerism, and the narcissism so familiar in the Internet Age. It's a more realistic version of what was to come in Soylent Green. Check it out. That Rock Hudson, a closeted gay man, is in the role as a man trying to flee from, then recover, his life, it's something.
@feralhistorian
@feralhistorian Год назад
I don't recall ever hearing of that film. Thanks for the recommendation, I'll check it out.
@danschneider7531
@danschneider7531 Год назад
@@feralhistorian Directed by John Frankenheimer, who did Manchurian Candidate.
@masterofrockets
@masterofrockets Год назад
That Paul, joke at the end was golden
@DistractionMan
@DistractionMan Месяц назад
The greatest sports film ever made about a sport that never existed.
@chrishutt66yt
@chrishutt66yt 4 месяца назад
Jonathan's revenge at the end?.....he SURVIVED!❤
@jagd7102
@jagd7102 2 месяца назад
First time ive seen someone who isn't a Fascist actually explain what Corporatism means. My respect for you has increased.
@robertlehnert4148
@robertlehnert4148 Год назад
YES, thank you!!! We are far closer to this dystopia than the gibberish of the Handmaid's Tale
@TheMightyPika
@TheMightyPika 3 месяца назад
70's scifi and fantasy titles are so choice. I was't born yet, but I feel vicarious nostalgia for those high concept stories. And the AESTHETICS!! We've slid backwards, man. Any idea why the 70's were such a great experimental era for wildly interesting scifi and fantasy?
@ideologybot4592
@ideologybot4592 Месяц назад
It was a good combination of influences going on. Technology rising, the auteur success at the movies, cynicism from oncoming malaise and the failures of the civil rights movement, and a culture that had also been creatively liberated by those changes. You could say whatever you want, so people decided to say that the system sucks in the most creative way possible. At least, those with studio backing did. It changed when the success of Star Wars crowded out high-concept for the glossiest of space operas in the genre, driven by the 80's producer control over the movie industry from guys like Bruckheimer and Don Simpson, seen as necessary when the auteurs went decadent with their films. Read into the movie market effects of Heaven's Gate by Cimino. I think it's necessary to add that there was a lot of trash at the time too. For every Rollerball or Soylent Green or even Logan's Run, there were half a dozen half-baked nonsensical social critiques with basically no redeeming intellectual stimulation and horribly garish style choices that make it unwatchable.
@TheMightyPika
@TheMightyPika Месяц назад
@@ideologybot4592 But if we didn't have awful films from that era, we wouldn't have Mystery Science Theater 3000!
@johnwalsh4857
@johnwalsh4857 Год назад
another bunch of Dystopias I recomend are from the comics namely the 1980s comic American Flagg, written and drawn by Howard Chaykin, Scout written and drawn by Timothy Truman and 2020 visions by Jamie Delano.
@antherthalmhersser7239
@antherthalmhersser7239 Год назад
We have that sport today. It goes by the name... Twitter
@archstanton3931
@archstanton3931 8 дней назад
Didn't expect to get a reference to the big man out here, but cool to see it and the swathe of other commenters who caught it. RIP Paul.
@stardog62
@stardog62 Год назад
This is the second time he’s made a reference to a gun tuber. First Ian McCollum of forgotten weapons and now Paul Harrell. I feel as though we may be subscribing to the same channels
@RamblingsByCorey
@RamblingsByCorey 9 дней назад
Watching this now that Paul Harrell line hits harder. But you're absolutely right
@SirWilliamKidney
@SirWilliamKidney 4 месяца назад
Can I just say--I saw Rollerball 2000 in the theatre with my dad and Hollywood owes us an apology
@feralhistorian
@feralhistorian 4 месяца назад
I have steadfastly avoided seeing Rollerball 2000.
@ideologybot4592
@ideologybot4592 Месяц назад
that movie was the last gasp of John McTiernan and basically ruined him. It should have been better, but while I love McTiernan, it's not really his kind of material.
@MastemaJack
@MastemaJack Месяц назад
That was a remake in name only.
@VirtualHolocaust
@VirtualHolocaust 4 дня назад
YOU ARE THE PAUL HERREL I WAS WONDERING WHAT YOU REMINDED ME OF! Thats great. also RIP loved that guy..
@chrishutt66yt
@chrishutt66yt 4 месяца назад
"GAME?...THIS WAS NEVER MEANT TO BE A GAME!"😮
@pastorjerrykliner3162
@pastorjerrykliner3162 Год назад
Long live the Timex Sinclair with a tape deck and a massive 2 bytes of RAM...with a RAM expander pack to bring it up to 6!!!
@bilboproudfoot
@bilboproudfoot 4 месяца назад
Paul Harrell reference = subscribe! Your analogy is accepted and apt.
@cynbartek9324
@cynbartek9324 Год назад
"Charlie's Angels" did a take on this. Jill held her own, with perfect hair and no smudged mascara.
@Bronasaxon
@Bronasaxon 5 месяцев назад
Of course.
@iwatchyoutubealot
@iwatchyoutubealot 3 месяца назад
It's funny seeing you mention being the Paul Harrell of nerd stuff, that was my initial thought upon one of my friends showing me your videos. You make great stuff, glad to see a quality channel on subjects like this can still spring up on youtube from time to time.
@8_Bit
@8_Bit 2 месяца назад
Enjoyed this! Would have appreciated a Commodore PET mention as that was the true first "plug & play" computer that inspired the TRS-80 and was released the same year as it and the Apple II. And of course, the PET led to the VIC-20 and Commodore 64 which did more to put a personal computer in every home than any other brand for that first decade.
@feralhistorian
@feralhistorian 2 месяца назад
I did seem like everyone had a Commodore 64 for awhile there.
@christophercoulter3217
@christophercoulter3217 Месяц назад
I owned a trs 82 as a kid.
@goaway152
@goaway152 20 часов назад
​​I'm going to guess you were born in the early to late 70s. Didn't have an early computer but we did have an Atari 2600. Complete with station wagon brown wood finish lol@@feralhistorian
@bombfog1
@bombfog1 Год назад
Your videos are never long enough.
@feralhistorian
@feralhistorian Год назад
I'm a little hesitant to do anything long-form, between copyright knock-downs and never really knowing what's going to resonate with anyone. That said, there's a few things in the works that will take longer to cover. Still kind of experimenting with the format a little.
@bombfog1
@bombfog1 Год назад
@@feralhistorian Please understand that my comment was given with mirth. I know that wasn’t obvious but I cannot bring myself to use emojis. Truly though, I hope you find your way to twenty minute long videos at some point.
@danschneider7531
@danschneider7531 Год назад
@@bombfog1 I think this format works because it is to the point, unique, and assumes the viewer is intelligent, something most YT arts/politics/religion channels do not. I think he needs to stay unique.
@Grizabeebles
@Grizabeebles 3 месяца назад
There's a scene in "Rollerball" where Johnathan, Moonpie, and Blue are talking to the newly-drafted players as a way of explaining the game to the audience. That scene makes it pretty clear to me that Johnathan is probably *more aware than anyone* that his success comes from good teamwork and that he's the Rollerball equivalent of a top Striker in soccer. Which just makes the bug the executive has up his rear about Johnathan being "too good" seem even more like a problem confined to the inside of one entitled old man's head. Which can also be compared and contrasted with Royalton from the Speed Racer movie.
@DavidCowie2022
@DavidCowie2022 День назад
Jonathan knows that he depends on the rest of the team, but do the great unwashed whooping in sports bars know it?
@davechapman6609
@davechapman6609 7 дней назад
Glad you like it! 😀
@paulholmaniii9691
@paulholmaniii9691 5 месяцев назад
Your vocabulary and vocal delivery are excellent! I wish more people could communicate as well as you do!
@danschneider7531
@danschneider7531 Год назад
If we wanna go down the rabbithole of Evil Corporation films, you gotta watch Kurosawa's The Bad Sleep Well. The ending is one of the bleakest in film history. That said, it's even scarier because it's NOT sci fi!
@peterhessedal8539
@peterhessedal8539 7 месяцев назад
There is an "i" in TEAM. It's the A hole...
@johnwalsh4857
@johnwalsh4857 Год назад
Yah my first computer was an Apple 2 back in 83. first games I got were nuke war, santa paravia and Taipan , yep all bootleg had for about 0.50 USD each , with xeroxed manuals. hahah. Also my parents used the Peachtree spreadsheets to do accounting for their business.
@feralhistorian
@feralhistorian Год назад
PR#6 Apple II flashback . . .
@mtnimt4724
@mtnimt4724 3 месяца назад
I always found it interesting how the party goers run to the empty field to destroy the few lone trees standing. I guess in the future most remaining trees are protected and the Uber rich get there kicks by shitting on what's left of nature.
@stuartwashington2658
@stuartwashington2658 Год назад
I thought I was the only person to call this proto-cyber punk! But I think it's obviously anti-corporate (in the Exxon-Mobil sense of the word).
@SusCalvin
@SusCalvin 3 месяца назад
Jugger is a more functional fictional blood sport, with a twist that players stand up for the nobility of their blood sport. They might smack other players with chain-balls but kicking a guy who is down is simply wrong.
@brokeneyes6615
@brokeneyes6615 3 дня назад
I feel like there was a Dean Cane remake on the Syfy channel back in the early 2000s for this.
@johnwalsh4857
@johnwalsh4857 Год назад
Love rollerball , I first watched this on Bootleg betamax back in 79. Watched it about 30 times since then. The remake done about 20 years ago is really bad, not comparable to the original.
@feralhistorian
@feralhistorian Год назад
Bootleg Betamax is quite possibly the ideal format for films of the era.
@johnwalsh4857
@johnwalsh4857 Год назад
@@feralhistorian yah I rented it out in Manila, Philippines, back then 100 percent of the video rentals in the PH were bootleg betamax, VHS never caught on.
@dairallan
@dairallan 7 дней назад
I think any analysis of Rollerball is incomplete without relating it to Slap Shot. In some ways they are the same movie. But while the sci fi drama is a dark dystopia, the present day satire is a comedy. I think taken together they show that people can recognise dangers but when actually presented with that danger in the flesh, all they can do is gawk and laugh.
@johnard611
@johnard611 52 минуты назад
Great point about Slap Shot, although it gives us two hero figures, one who rebels for personal reasons and one (Pual Newman) who disrupts because of ambition and ends up being rewarded for it. After watching this video essay, it occurs to me that Gladiator also hits many of the story beats of Rollerball.
@indianajim
@indianajim Месяц назад
You may be the Paul Harrell of nerddom, but you’re not dead…not yet. I hope. 😊
@feralhistorian
@feralhistorian Месяц назад
Still breathing and mobile. RIP Paul.
@kurkkamambusu4063
@kurkkamambusu4063 2 месяца назад
To answer your question. Now i am consume the next stuff (video) ;)
@Gruntvc
@Gruntvc Год назад
As evil as the Corporation in Rollerball was, they've got nothing on video game companies like: EA, Ubisoft, and Activision Blizzard. Good movie, don't watch the remake. Some films, shows, video games, etc don't need remakes or sequels.
@feralhistorian
@feralhistorian Год назад
Fuckin' EA . . .
@SusCalvin
@SusCalvin 3 месяца назад
EA has not messed up the forest near me. The old industrial giants are still there while not as flashy as media companies.
@lahuk1194
@lahuk1194 2 месяца назад
Isn't "Corportism" in regards to Fascism from the Latin "Corpus" (body), in reference to the Fascist focus on the nation and views of the nation being like an organism with all people within like cells with their specific roles to play.
@rvhill69
@rvhill69 4 дня назад
Have you ever read, "Those About to Die." by Daniel P. Mannix?
@elbarto6668
@elbarto6668 Год назад
Nice
@PrivateIvan
@PrivateIvan 11 дней назад
Great analysis! Would love to hear your comments on Death Race 2000--yes, Roger Corman's ripoff of Rollerball is goofy, but there's a political commentary going on that's deliciously absurdist--and kinda spot-on (and ties in with much you talk about--[spoiler] in Death Race 2000, if you examine it, Stallone's character is the better driver).
@feralhistorian
@feralhistorian 11 дней назад
I'd have covered Death Race 2000 already if not for the treacherous French.
@johnwalsh4857
@johnwalsh4857 Год назад
Next up talk about the great sci fi movies world of the 70s called Soylent Green.
@feralhistorian
@feralhistorian Год назад
Soylent Green is definitely in the queue, along with a few other dystopian highlights of the era.
@johnwalsh4857
@johnwalsh4857 Год назад
@@feralhistorian Yep the other fave dystopian films of the 70s were: Omega Man(well post apocalyptic but that was my most fave sci fi movies of the 70s), Silent Running, Final Programme., Mad Max, Clock Work Orange , THX 1138, No Blade Grass, Zardoz, also like to mention, the animated movie Wizards 1977 while not technically dystopian well its also some of my most fave sci fi fantasy movies of the time, along with Quintet 1979 where what is left of society revolved around playing a boardgame.
@feralhistorian
@feralhistorian Год назад
@@johnwalsh4857 Zardoz was on my short list when I started this channel. I have to get on that.
@danschneider7531
@danschneider7531 Год назад
@@feralhistorian 1973 Czech-French cartoon called Fantastic Planet- it is a one of a kind film, whether you like it or not. Also the 78 version of LOTR by Ralph Bakshi- so much more interesting than Jackson's bloated mess.
@danschneider7531
@danschneider7531 Год назад
@@johnwalsh4857 Not dystopian, but end of the world- Phase IV w intelligent ants- sort of a thinking Man's THEM!
@johnwalsh4857
@johnwalsh4857 Год назад
Also please analyze the world of Wizards 1977 Ralph Bakshi, yah Elves vs. mutant nazis with machineguns , panzers and stukas, haha even their version of Sauran was inspired by the mein Kampf a million years in the future haha
@feralhistorian
@feralhistorian Год назад
I haven't seen Wizards since I was a subliterate manling, but now that it's been brought up a couple times I almost have to watch it.
@johnwalsh4857
@johnwalsh4857 Год назад
@@feralhistorian one of Bakshi's best.
@captainexcabier
@captainexcabier 8 месяцев назад
Do you take requests at all?
@feralhistorian
@feralhistorian 8 месяцев назад
Yes. In fact Rollerball was by request. Of course some take awhile to get to. I still haven't done Silent Running . . .
@captainexcabier
@captainexcabier 8 месяцев назад
You ever watch any anime? Both Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex and Ergo Proxy seem like they'd be up your alley, or maybe Yukikaze for something shorter.
@Hurricanelive
@Hurricanelive 6 месяцев назад
Ah yes, God Nuffle and how we as a society settle all wars and petty arguments on the field of green! Like civilized peoples!
@SusCalvin
@SusCalvin 3 месяца назад
Blood Bowl is a game of risk management. Losing a roll ends your turn and shifts the initiative. So you must understand which actions are safe and which can wait.
@stephendaley266
@stephendaley266 3 месяца назад
Rollerball is the final objective of techno-faclscists like Musk and Thiel. Project 2025 is merely the start. Rollerball is the final phase of totalitarian Capitalism. Way to miss the point, Feral! 😂😂😂😂
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