Roman Emperors Family Tree | Diocletian to Constantine VI 

do one for the Emperor of Mexico sēl-vü-ple.

I love your videos and I’ve been binging them over the last week. For us color-blind people, the Blue/Purple colors representing East/West can look identical. May I suggest using colours further apart when differentiating like this (eg blue+red/yellow/orange/green)). If that’s not possible, at least making one lighter and the other darker makes a huge difference.

Oh, that's a pretty notable mistake imho. That's a shame, maybe he could change it without altering the rest of the model.

Thanks. I'll make a note to change the poster version on the next printing.

@@UsefulCharts It’s not a big deal. Amazing work on the chart though. You’ve gotten me into genealogy and I really thank you for that.

@@Cheemsarion it is. He sells that stuff and they must be correct. He should have done better research

@@marcopolo2395 he just said he’d fix it, cool your jets

A generation is 20 years.

Advanced?lol...

@@ptolemeeselenion1542not these days at least lol

25 seems a bit long for just one generation, back then at least. 20 was probably closer to the average.

...or so, we insistently keep telling ourselves, just to make sure we keep believing our own propaganda.

Why are u using XIX instead of 19. That’s weird

@@gazey roman numerals are still common in Europe

@@gazey In romance countries (and others too) roman numerals are used to denote centuries, and they also have many other uses that english language doesn't employ.

@@gazey oops, sorry! It's a latinism! I am a native romance language speaker, and when I was writing I forgot that in english centuries are spelled with arabic numerals (in italian, spanish, french etc. they are spelled with roman numerals).

Hmm ok

Was gonna say this.

When did it officially change then?

This would be interesting. I am curious to how the Babylonian prieshood escaped to Pergamos and became part of the Hellenic rule with their famous altar of Zeus to which Jesus called that place the throne of Satan, from which place moved to Rome with their title Pontifex Maximus, as Ive heard.

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Amazing

If he had the resource would have retaken Gaul. because , the Frankish king by that time denounced the roman emperor in the coins and also went to war on Justinian while he was reconquering Italy. Justinian had also reportedly made a statement with Ostrogothic envoys which made them so triggered that they went to Sassanid king and told him "Justinian has a desire to seize the entire earth". those desires can only be stopped if Persians declare war on the east. thankfully the war and the plague stopped him from doing that.

Even if Amalasuintha hadn't been assassinated, Justinian would have still invaded Italy. The Ostrogoths were the adherents of Arianism, a Christian doctrine that had been declared as heretical by the First Council of Nicaea. Eastern Roman Empire was the only state to patronize trinitarian Christianity while the Ostrogoths, Vandals & Visigoths (against whom Justinian fought) were all adherents of Arian Christianity. Justinian I was renowned in his own time for persecuting Jews & pagans and for his hostile attitude towards Nestorian & Miaphysite Christians. His reign was marked by the forced shutdown of all surviving pagan temples within the empire, which were then forcibly occupied by the Christian bishops & converted into churches, leading to the complete wipeout of the ancient Greek & Egyptian religions. Besides the Christians of those days didn't saw much difference between heretics & pagans, & the Romans' attitude towards the Germanic tribes can be considered as 'racist' under present day criteria. The fact that Arian Christians were much more amicable towards Jews compared to trinitarian Christians was also utilised in those times to justify war against them. Justinian's conquest of the Arian Ostrogoths & Vandals was the defining point when trinitarianism became the dominant form of Christianity & hastened the conversion of Visigoths, Franks & Anglo-Saxons into Chalcedonian Christianity (who till then viewed it with suspicion & considered it to be a ploy to undermine their sovereignty by indirectly bringing them under the Imperial sphere of influence).

Well many Holy Roman Emperors would argue they were a vassal to their feudal kingdom.

just ask Louis XVII or Charles XII

Such a nominative *constance* .

Well that might mean we just know him by his Gens (extended family) name and thus everyone around him would have a similar gens or gens derived name.

@@timothystamm3200 He was from the gens "Flavus". The gens was not important after emperor caracalla gave all free people citizenship and they all joined the gens "Aurelius". By the time of constantine, the gens only showed in purely legal documents and basically everyone had just ignored it. Later emperors would use the name "Flavius" to show their connection to constantine despite what gens they were born in

Imagine a dinner table convo.

I much prefer "Eastern Roman Empire" and always use it with people who will understand what I mean. But I still use "Byzantine Empire" with non history people who have a vague impression that the Roman Empire ended about 450 and are often surprised to hear that it lasted another 1000 years.

Eastern Roman Empire sounds like a good choice. It needs some distinguish from the original empire, given that it eventually even changed the goddamn language - if you need a marker for cultural self-identification, language is a good one. But if no one ever called it byzantine empire when it was standing, then we shouldn't name it that.

I can think of lots of exonyms still used particularly for placenames but also peoples, polities and dynasties. Personally I like 'Byzantine', it is shorter than "Eastern Roman" and we would be saying "Constantinopolitan" if that was not much longer as well. It also marks out the ways in which that empire differed from the earlier full Roman one.

@@MatthewMcVeagh roman is shorter than byzantine or constaninopolitanian. Armchair classicists just can't bring themselves to give them that name because of misplaced pride.

@@NikeonaBike Yes it is... but it doesn't make clear we are talking about the mediaeval, Greek-speaking Christian empire that didn't include the founding city that produced the name 'Roman', rather than the earlier ancient, pagan, Latin-speaking one that was politically and geographically based around that city. As for classicists, I am not one and there is no pride in the (true) Roman empire to defend. I don't actually like it. I just prefer realistic and honest historical perspectives based on practical reality rather than names or hindsight agendas. In practical terms after the Roman empire had split, converted to Christianity and then the western half fell, the eastern half became a new entity with new qualities, whatever they called themselves. The underlying cultural qualities were Hellenistic, and even if the geopolitical successors of the Byzantines were the Ottomans, the cultural heirs are the Greeks. Nothing to do with Rome or Italy.

This changes nothing.

kinda funny that I first learned of them from the Orthodox Church calling them both saints

Christianity at this point was embroiled over a heated debate on icon veneration. Leo III came from Syria (Isuaria is the Greek word for the Latin Syria) & had banned veneration of icons within the Empire (supposedly under the influence of Muslims, who had already conquered Syria during the reign of Heraclius) but majority of the Christian clergy were not pleased with the Emperor's interference in theological matters & promptly refused to obey his aniconic edicts or support his iconoclast policies. Leo III's aniconism & iconoclast zeal was maintained by his son Constantine V. Constantine's wife Irene was one of the majority of Christians who continued to venerate icons despite Imperial prohibition & state-sponsored persecution. In her capacity as regent, Irene completely stamped out aniconism by convening the Second Ecumemical Council of Constantinople, where icon veneration was declared to be mandatory for Chalcedonian Christians & aniconism as heresy. But when she saw that her son Constantine VI was starting to disobeying her in both theological (by showing affinity towards aniconism) & political matters under the influence of the advisors of his father, she had him executed out of both religious zeal & political considerations.

It was really Constantino XI

Rome actually still exist ...

wrong

the term byzantine is mostly used after heraclius.

Excluding the period it stopped existing between the collapse of the HRE and Umberto's rise to the throne

And also the period between Theodohad and Charlemagne

​​@@palatasikuntheyoutubecomme2046 Well, technically the Title was _vacant_ but still existed Anyways it would be 1327 years P.S. The last "claimant" to the Italian Throne/Western Roman Emperor Title before Charlemagne's coronation wasn't Augustulus nor Theodahad, it was actually a Sicilian Usurper who proclaimed himself Western Emperor in 717, which is why the period between Theodahad and Charlemagne (634-800) is not counted entirely

welp, get ready to have you liver pumped, because I doubt anyone would associate post-third century Rome with "civilised"

@@1224chrisng - I was only joking. Besides, Civilisation means to live in cities, or to become a civilian. I learned that playing Civ on the PC. :)

he had already made one.

Noted. Are there any other colors on the palette I use that are also troublesome?

@@UsefulCharts Thanks for asking. Mostly it's secondary colours contrasting with one of their primaries. Teal next to blue may be more difficult for someone who is green-weak. If you have purple next to yellow, green or brown though the difference would be very clear. If you want to test it out, I believe there are filters built into Mac OS and Windows that you can enable.

I believe the wasn't an official split by then, just drift in different directions due to reduced social/intellectual communication (the schism was in the 11th century, and it really solidified after 1204)

1. The video is in english not latin 2. It was NOT pronounced like that, even in latin the "Ae" is pronounced /ae/ not /aI/ like in "eye" the "s" is a redacted S, not the same as an english S sound

If only Julian lived a bit longer