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Rosalia is EXTREMELY underpowered. Here’s how NK can fix that. 

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After my first video analyzing hoe Rosalia and Guardian Automaton are pretty underpowered, I decided to look into her more and realized that she's actually really weak in a lot of ways. But thankfully, with the help of my viewers, I was able to come up with some suggestions for ‪@NinjaKiwiGames‬ to HOPEFULLY improve her in the next update...
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@ShadowViperGaming43
@ShadowViperGaming43 2 месяца назад
This sequel wasn't originally planned, but there were just too many good suggestions in the comments for them to go unrecognized:) How do YOU think rosalia should be rebalanced? Comment below!
@j_ustanoob
@j_ustanoob 2 месяца назад
apple
@rhombicosidodecaherdrons8984
@rhombicosidodecaherdrons8984 2 месяца назад
Unrelated to this comment but you should probably change the word before Rosalia to HOW instead of that because that
@HeitorGRamos
@HeitorGRamos 2 месяца назад
She should buff aircraft further and buff top and bottom path engis aswell, get camo and change the level 20 to: level 3 ability can stun moab class bloons, level 7 abiliry gets more speed, level 10 ability stun other moabs around the explosion and damage and pierce buffs for her normal atacks, maybe more workshop range but i think it's not needed
@annimemeiro
@annimemeiro 2 месяца назад
@@ShadowViperGaming43 Her damage could be increased in most levels, Aircraft Efficiency could be moved to level 1 so you can use the discount to put a heli or ace sooner. She could give camo detection to helis or aces in range, then at level 10+, where you most likely already have the helis or aces at higher levels, Air Craft Efficiency could be upgraded to also give more pierce and flightspeed to helis, and to aces give them bigger projectiles and larger projectile lifespan in order to make sure stuff like dart storm will hit more often, then at level 15 Aircraft Efficiency could be upgraded once again to give special effects to ace and heli t5s, such as (I saw this one from another guy but it sticked with me) making Sky Shredder have slight homing. Or could make Tsar Bomba generate a thermal field after it explodes to pop even more bloons and cleanup to surviving ceramics from moabs that got destroyed. Apache could get more damage against ceramics to make him less bad against super ceramics + more razor rotors attackspeed + range. Many possibilities. Maybe this last upgrade to Aircraft Efficiency could be distributed to multiple levels after level 10, just like Obyn does different buffs to different druid paths. (Please NK, buff improved wrath PLEASE)
@MasterKnightDH
@MasterKnightDH 2 месяца назад
I provided my own list of suggestions. Long story short, I can say that Rosalia should have a suitable degree Camo detection, but it wouldn't fix all of her problems, and a faster leveling curve would only break her character when she doesn't even handle DDTs well at all getting to the point where even Level 20 fails miserably against Round 90. I'll be streaming my response to this video as well.
@AverageVillagerNewsWatcher
@AverageVillagerNewsWatcher 2 месяца назад
"NoT tO MiCrO hEvEy" Ninga Kiwi, you made Corvus
@HeitorGRamos
@HeitorGRamos 11 дней назад
@@AverageVillagerNewsWatcher corvus rn isnt that bad at least
@wanderingsystem9674
@wanderingsystem9674 2 месяца назад
(Vi) As I see there are two main reasons you’d use a hero. 1- The hero is objectively a good option. Heroes like Corvus and Geraldo are just good, Azeli or Adora on endless, or if you want to be mindless just place Churchil somewhere. 2- The hero is cool to use. Obin and Pat might be overshadowed by other options a lot of the time imo, but damn if I don’t like to druid spam, or see a roared tack zone obliterate MOABs once in a while. To me, Rosalia don’t fit either of those. She is not good as you can clearly see how underpowered she is once you buy her, and she isn’t fun to use cause she is too micro heavy for the reward you get. In that way I see no reason to ever use her.
@ShadowViperGaming43
@ShadowViperGaming43 2 месяца назад
exactly how i feel
@zhaoyun5268
@zhaoyun5268 2 месяца назад
I personally find it weird that there is no synergy with engineers specifically top path id like to see that maybe reduce costs like with aces and helis maybe faster production of sentries maybe give sentries camo detection
@hongxiawang2049
@hongxiawang2049 2 месяца назад
Rosalia should buff the non monkey towers cuz she be tinkering them
@ShadowViperGaming43
@ShadowViperGaming43 2 месяца назад
something like that yeah
@HeitorGRamos
@HeitorGRamos 2 месяца назад
Subtowers aswell? Like sentires and the bloon trap?
@zhaoyun5268
@zhaoyun5268 2 месяца назад
@@HeitorGRamos gotta make that xxl bloon trap xxxxl bloon trap lol
@SuperDestroyerFox
@SuperDestroyerFox 2 месяца назад
@@HeitorGRamosmight be too hard to implement. I don’t know if it’s intentional or not but a sharpening stone on an engineer also buffs all sentries which makes me think that they all have to have any buffs.
@HeitorGRamos
@HeitorGRamos 2 месяца назад
@@SuperDestroyerFox so js use the same code as rhe sharpening stone cuz lets be real, it makes sense for her to buff engineers but make the duration last forever and change the buff The bloon trap could js get more capacity and the game alr has a mk that can do that so it shouldnt be that hard for them
@drippyjowo
@drippyjowo 2 месяца назад
BRO I WAS JUST OUTSIDE SWEATING THIS MORNING 😭 Anyway, i think all of the buffs you suggested (besides the silly "Double Antibloon" suggestion), were very possible to add. But the two i agree with the most are: 1. Lowering Rosalia's learning curve, as reaching high enough levels to acquire her better abilities and perks is actually really tough at the moment. 2. This one goes hand in hand with buff 1 and that is to have her become an air-tower buffing hero. Striker Jones buffs explosive towers, Gwendolyn buffs fire towers, and Brickell buffs water towers. So why shouldn't Rosalia buff air towers? It would work very well, give her a few more pros that can help her compete with stronger heroes, and it fits well into the uniformity of the game! But in conclusion, I feel like all of those changes could be possible, not altogether, but individually, they're great!
@ShadowViperGaming43
@ShadowViperGaming43 2 месяца назад
those are definitely some very good ones yeah
@Brain-DeadIdiot-fd5qq
@Brain-DeadIdiot-fd5qq 2 месяца назад
Wait a minute.......
@ShadowViperGaming43
@ShadowViperGaming43 2 месяца назад
@@Brain-DeadIdiot-fd5qq hmm?
@annimemeiro
@annimemeiro 2 месяца назад
@@ShadowViperGaming43 I think that honestly, putting Rosalia at the same xp rate as base heroes might be too much. There could be a new xp rate tag for Rosalia, which she requires 1.2 more xp than the base heroes, putting her as a intermediate between the 1.0 xp and 1.425x xp tag. Unrelated but i want to know opinions on Psi. I have disliked the hero since i got it but maybe i'm using it wrong? Though they could need 1.425 xp instead of 1.5 xp, definetly a deserved buff albeit small.
@leonardotrujillo8661
@leonardotrujillo8661 2 месяца назад
Psi can work well on intermediate maps plus and is basically a free win on ​98(if you have level 17)@@annimemeiro
@CrimsoniteSP
@CrimsoniteSP 2 месяца назад
For me, what's advertised is a hero based on flying based strategies and realistically what you get is a hero that can be on the track and nothing more. I think the main things I'd like to see changed is pretty much shooting while moving, better synergy with ace and heli, and smaller delays on her abilities. Right now there's just not a reason to move her, her abilities are good but only when used preemptively and a 5% discount isn't really impactful. I get it, if you move the discount to 10% then you get all tier 3s 30% cheaper with villages, but heros are kinda meant to define a playstyle and she doesn't have one. That and the flight speed boost is so hardly noticable and they both really don't care about that. I'd actually like to see her natively give aces the wingmonkey MK and allow heli to always have pursuit instead. Something these both care about while not necessarily making them stronger. It wouldn't matter all the time but wingmonkey in Chimps is interesting.
@MasterKnightDH
@MasterKnightDH 2 месяца назад
I made a topic on the Steam Community Hub titled "Rosalia rebalance suggestions" that I was able to share with Rohanspibo just last night. The most important thing is that Rosalia is meant to be utility by involving position to let her hit MOABs specifically with Enhanced Laser, which is uniquely valuable on Round 98, and we should build around points like that. I do also agree that Rosalia should get her own ability to hit Camos at some reasonable point. I simply don't think that Rosalia should get auto-Flight Boost at ANY point, nor should she have a faster Level curve. *_Let her be unique._* I'll go ahead and recite my suggestions here: -Rosalina's movement speed increased by 25% -(If possible) Rosalia should attack while repositioning under a movement order -Hovering placement moved from Level 7 to Level 8 (really for description cleanup in tandem with a key Flight Boost suggestion, but this nerf wouldn't be oppressive since Rosalia does handle Round 40 like a boss, which many Heroes can't fully claim) -Grenades: --Base explosion attack dealing 1 extra Damage across all Levels 5 and above --Newly have the Level 15 bonus apply to Leads --Damage attacks inflict a further 50% extra Damage truncated VS and Leads Ceramics, additively stacking with the current Level 15 benefit of +100% --Damage attacks receive 50% extra Pierce rounded up at Level 15 --Base explosion inflicting very brief stun to MOABs, DDTs, and non-blimps starting at Level 12 --Damage type becomes Normal Type at Level 15 -Laser: --Bonus damage of +100% VS Leads stacking additively with blimp damage bonuses starting at Level 15 --Enhanced Laser has its knockback duration both be more variable VS different blimp sizes with significant favoritism of pushing back MOABs and DDTs (suggested math of 1.25 times current for MOABs and DDTs, 0.8 times current for BFBs, and 0.5 times current for ZOMGs but I'd be open to something cleaner especially keeping in mind Arenaline Rush needing to be buffed and that would buff Enhanced Laser's frequency) -Scatter Missiles Damage improved to Normal Type at Level 14+ -Flight Boost: --Has any movement order simply be put on queue to only be handled upon Flight Boost's completion (VERY optional) --Grants Rosalia and nearby Aces/Helis Camo detection for duration, also applying to Scatter Missile and Kinetic Charge --L7~L17 cooldown timer reduced from 45s to 40s (L18+ remains at 25s) -Kinetic Charge: --L10 base damage reduced from 1500 to 1000 --L20 base damage reduced from 4000 to 3000 --L20 max added damage increased from 8000 to 9001 --Lifespan increased to 1 extra Round -Adrenaline Rush passive: --Speed boost rate improved from +0.5% per bloon to +(0.5 + 0.1 x L)% per bloon, changed to 8/3 of the value at Level 11~17 and then 4 times at Level 18+ --Speed boost cap improved to +25% cap at Level 4~10, +66.67% cap at Level 11~17, and +100% cap at Level 18 Please let me know what you think.
@onlykflow
@onlykflow 2 месяца назад
level 20 should be reworked too
@Gomanx
@Gomanx 2 месяца назад
You know what? I think the only thing Rosalia would really need to become strong would be if her adrenaline rush, instead of demanding bloons inside her (terrible) range, depended on how far bloons have gotten along the track, just like Elite Defender. I have seen her rate of fire increase from adrenaline rush on very rare occasions, and it's significant but completely unreliable. Other good stuff would be camo detection from level 7 onwards and expanding the 5% discount to also affect engineers and spike factories.
@iceicicle3046
@iceicicle3046 2 месяца назад
The buff is already bugged as well, meaning she isn't getting the full buff she should be
@CR1MSONACE
@CR1MSONACE 2 месяца назад
And the cost decrease being more than 5%
@revaxx3075
@revaxx3075 2 месяца назад
I think having her buff machines and engineers would be good and fitting for her theme. So tacks, spike factories and engineers get the price buff and maybe something else in later lvls. If we wanna get really crazy then allow her to unlock both crosspaths of those towers so you can use 522 or 252 etc. tacks and spactories. I think it would make sense that she could configure a tack or spactory to do these things but its probs kinda broken. Also maybe she could have a unique buff/interaction with ettienne and his drones. I think having some kind of special hero synergies would be fun in co op
@flareri8665
@flareri8665 2 месяца назад
I think the biggest thing I'd like to see is to buff up the early game by discounting it and increasing her discounts to aerial towers, like being the cheapest option to cover multiple lanes with her movement could be interesting. I think also reworking her lvl 10 could be cool, since apparently they can be stockpiled in the workshop, so maybe just have the charges stockpile in the workshop overtime over time and then you can manually select a moab or part of the track to place once of the charges, and she flies over and prioritizes attacking that target/area until it explodes. You would also be able to manually explode the charge early to reset her targeting. This is a little more micro intensive but should help give her more of a unique identity which is what I feel like is lacking most. If NK wanted to go crazy with it (which I doubt but who knows lol) then maybe have the prior rework become the level 7 and the level 10 is that she now selects a "buddy tower" to give buffs to passively, reusing the ability selects a new tower, and if she's uses the level 7 both her and the buddy targets the mine (if its in range of the other tower). In a sense this would help solidify her role as an aerial support since you'd effectively be able to retarget a heli in pursuit or x-x-3 and up monkey ace to quickly take down a critical target before they refocus to the frontline, and with their global range they'd be the best candidates as a buddy who needs to retarget. It'd also make her a much better teaching tool in how to micro and how to manipulate targeting to the players advantage. In any case, can't wait to not see any of this in v44.
@superstorm4228
@superstorm4228 2 месяца назад
Personally I wish NK would add more tower buffs from hero’s for all types of towers since it is fun to micromax your towers with hero buffs like obym striker and even Gwen
@Exshem
@Exshem 2 месяца назад
Ok so for level 10 ability, I would like her Kinetic Charge to also drop a second explosion ( inspired by Infinitode 2 Antiair's special - Aimed Drop ). It would work like a delayed explosion of unstable concoction, so it can double down as a cleanup ability/extra dmg to its childrens.
@QFLVTY
@QFLVTY 2 месяца назад
Smaller, but earlier mechanical weapon improvements (or give it to engi paragon, it may fit there better)
@sydthesquid180
@sydthesquid180 2 месяца назад
I feel like one aspect of Rosalia people are forgetting is her limited range and low base attack speed, even at high levels. Her ability to move around her launchpad gives her more range than her small circle, but requires micro and you run into the issue of her not attacking while moving. Her attack speed is increased based on the number of bloons at a given moment, but this makes it more difficult to visualize her improvements, as you can really only keep track at the start of the round, when she is at her slowest, before things get crazy. Its interesting that she receives no base range or speed upgrades (to my knowledge) on level up, instead opting for other buffs like a ramping attack speed or being able to see over obstacles when she begins flying. Her attacks ARE good, but her limited ability to attack in any one spot keeps her from being a 1-tower beast. Also her pursuit flight mode has her constantly overcorrecting its flight path causing her to swirl around her pursuit target, rather than smoothly flow with the track like heli pursuit or Etienne drones. If i had to make any changes, Id swap her level 20 with level 18 (the final buff to her flight ability) and make the flight buff permenant. Having to click the ability every 20 seconds or so for 80% uptime (without energizer) is just tedious. The current level 20 doesnt impact Rosalia in any way, which doesn’t give that satisfying “Finally!” moment that other heroes have, like permanent UCAV. Then, id focus more of her midgame levels to more base stats rather than odd buffs. Her ramping attack speed, while unique, doesn’t fit her character at all. Rather, she should be slowly learning how to improve her weapons and her ability to wield them. I would make these changes weaker than how she is now, for balancing reasons, but also because they would have a more consistent effect. Finally, instead of so many levels where the weapons are upgrade that say “lasers do more damage to MOABs” or “bombs do more damage to ceramic”, maybe change some different properties of the weapons, like laser piercing more or bombs bounce more at later levels (and therefore less at earlier levels). I like this last change the least, but the other two I’m a fan of. A bigger range and changing flight to permanent removes a lot of the remaining micro and more consistent, but less max damage, can help her FEEL stronger despite actually being weaker. Just some thoughts
@los-lobos
@los-lobos 2 месяца назад
“Not that good compared to the last 2” The last 2 were fricking Geraldo and Corvus
@hongxiawang2049
@hongxiawang2049 2 месяца назад
Btd6 players when a hero can't beat chimps on its own: 😱😱😱😱😱
@E.EE.
@E.EE. 2 месяца назад
Btd6 players when a hero can't beat round 957 while level -2
@sneezywheezyboy1652
@sneezywheezyboy1652 2 месяца назад
Bees tees and deez six players when
@ShadowViperGaming43
@ShadowViperGaming43 2 месяца назад
i wasnt even trying to accomplish that lol
@annimemeiro
@annimemeiro 2 месяца назад
Btd6 players mocking other's opinions without even understanding them:
@kavayo404
@kavayo404 2 месяца назад
It's pretty outright noticeable she simply doesn't keep up with some of the other heroes. Certainly not as bad as Obyn but she has incredibly limited range without micro. Even when you start doing micro, until she stats flying above the track, moving her around feels incredibly clunky. And she simply doesn't have the reward for the micro compared to Geraldo or Corvus. It's not a case of her needing to solo chimps, there's a reason that those accomplishments are viewed as powercreep. It's a case of her own damage being low, and the few support perks she gets being either unlocked too late, or not having a strong enough effect. Comparing her to the other "micro heroes", she's pathetically weak, so the players who are okay with the micro don't get the reward for their effort. And comparing her to the place-and-forget heroes, she simply doesn't have the support or raw damage to be worth picking. She tries to be too much. As fun as her concept is, she fails almost everything she tries to do.
@RancorSnp
@RancorSnp 2 месяца назад
Personally - she NEEDS a damage boost. I'm very confident that the only hero that does less damage than Rosalia is Ben, and even there I am not that confident (Seriously, her damage output os horrendous) Get rid of micro, COMPLETELY - I do not understand why the first... 7? Heroes required 0 micro to be used but suddenly even the "not micro intensive" hero requires micro to not completely suck And yeah, some actual buff to flying towers would be nice, and of course as discussed previously what even is going on with her level 20. I think we are focusing too much on not making her too strong - when the existing heroes have some absolute monsters on the roster. And not just Geraldo - who geniuenly needs a nerf to stop being the best pick in every scenario, we have heroes like Sauda, Adora, even Etienne - that can confribute like 1,5M damage in a two tower run, and honestly heroes like Quincy, Gwen, Oben, Churchilll? They are not bad heroes, they are all pretty strong, just you most likely aren't using them because they are not as strong as the top heroes. Do we really need a hero that doesn't even match these in terms of damage / support / usefulness?
@kaiotrem358
@kaiotrem358 2 месяца назад
as a brazillian its sad to see how a hero from our contry sucks
@ShadowViperGaming43
@ShadowViperGaming43 2 месяца назад
at least your hero isnt hated BECAUSE of their country, I swear everyone hates etienne cuz he is french
@MasterKnightDH
@MasterKnightDH 2 месяца назад
@@ShadowViperGaming43 I don't exactly hate Etienne to begin with. I was actually snickering as soon as I saw his Level 8 description when I was looking over his level up benefits at the time of release.
@lordvex75
@lordvex75 2 месяца назад
My problem with making guardian automaton "useful" is that, even if it would be usable before chimps mode, anti-bloon is still incredibly expensive no matter what. It'd never be a good black border strategy cause it'd still require you to sweat with the tech terror saveup, and it'd never be a good leftover strategy, since no matter what anti-bloon still costs way more than the support a tech terror would need to win. It's just giving her a single meme strat that can be used before round 100, and there's no reason to ever really use it unless you feel like it. Anti isn't ever really a chimps tower, guardian automaton is just there because it's funny. If anti-bloon became more useful for rounds 101-140, that'd actually give guardian automaton a real use.
@rhombicosidodecaherdrons8984
@rhombicosidodecaherdrons8984 2 месяца назад
I watched both videos and this is a very valid perspective and I appreciate people who are brave enough to express this online. I'm just sharing my perspective on this one, no hate or anything (please don't start a war in replies) There's also a shorter message at the end for people who don't wanna read the entire thing summarizing it. Point 1 Level 20 I agree that Rosalia's level 20 power is unrealistic to use in a real game, but many other heroes also share this. There are currently 9 other heroes with the same or slower leveling who do not get to level 20 in a game without using Energizer or Spending more cash. Yet people do not complain about the level 20 being useless. I feel that the other levels of Rosalia have been completely overshined by the level 20 discount, if we completely removed the discount part from the upgrade I would see far less complaints about it. As for balancing I think that changing the scale rate would be a bit too strong without an overall nerf to all her levels. I think that changing the discount to apply to more towers in exchange for a lower discount unlocked at an earlier level would better suit it. Point 2 Power IMO Rosalia is by no means broken nor bad, personally I would rank her a little above average, I've used her on many expert chimps runs and I believe the main issue is lack of representation. Back in the older versions of BTD6 Muddy Puddles CHIMPS was considered unbeatable because of the power creeping at the time. Ninja Kiwi's solution was to create a new hero that could switch between grouped and single target damage over multiple lanes, a.k.a. Rosalia. However Muddy Puddles CHIMPS was beaten so they didn't release the hero until now. Her main strength is on maps with little space, line of sight issues, and multiple lanes. In the patch notes Ninja Kiwi describes Rosalia as "The ability to swap weapon to handle her own weaknesses exists for people who wish to play her as their sole DPS, but the power of both her weapons is balanced to scale up together at a fair rate so there's no reason not to pick a preferred weapon forever, and build the rest of your towers to cover any weakness left." She already has insane DPS and has no weakness in terms of Grouped vs Single Target, something that almost every other hero has issues with. All heroes should have some weakness, and in this case Ninja Kiwi is referring to the camo detection. Ninja Kiwi's description also does not mention the support aspect showing that although Rosalia does have some support benefits its not her main intent, this makes a potential flying towers buff unrealistic. As for balancing, I would not give camo detection directly to Rosalia but grant it as part of the Ace/Heli discount, this also solves 1 major flaw for Ace/Heli, natural camo. The Heli and Ace both have the camo crosspath being the middle path. This is less preferred for the top and bottom path and I feel would compliment nicely. While I did say support is not a major role, I took inspiration from Admiral Brickell's level 5 ability to give water towers popping all bloon types. As for the movement balance that seems completely valid, makes her less clunky too. Point 3 Micro Rosalia is quite micro intensive but as I mentioned on the previous video, not as micro intensive as Geraldo and Corvus. In Rosalia's case leaving her without micro still makes her a decent hero, whereas microless Geraldo and Corvus are pretty useless. Rosalia unlocks at level 25 and costs 5000 Monkey money, this prevents newer players from being overwhelmed at it. It is important to note that this unlock is BEFORE Corvus and Geraldo which I believe is an attempt to build micro skills in players before unlocking the heavy micro heroes. The monkey money is not there to represent power, but rather to serve as a difficulty level as well. The comment posted mentions the power level not being worth the micro, I think that the power is considered weak for micro because we are used to the OP Geraldo and Corvus, so it appears bad in comparison. As for balancing I like the idea of having level 20 being a permanent Flight Boost, but toned down. This is sort of like Etienne's situation where the ability just makes it stronger. Currently the ability gives 30% speedboost and shoots both lasers and grenades, I feel that if you remove one of those perks it would perfect as a permanent function at level 20. Thanks for reading all this, you truly are a legend for reading that, anyways here's the summary for those who don't want to read a long blob of text Level 20 Power: Rosalia's level 20 power is unrealistic for real games, overshadowing her other abilities. Many heroes also struggle to reach level 20 without extra resources, but only Rosalia's level 20 draws significant complaints. Discount Adjustment: The focus on the level 20 discount is problematic. A suggestion is to remove this discount or adjust it to apply to more towers at a lower discount, available at an earlier level. Power and Utility: Rosalia is above average, particularly effective on maps with limited space, line of sight issues, and multiple lanes. Designed to handle both grouped and single-target damage, she lacks camo detection, which could be integrated into the Ace/Heli discount buffs to help those towers pick the best crosspath rather than sacrificing power for camo. Support Role: Rosalia's support role is minor, and adding flying tower buffs is unrealistic. Her primary strength lies in her balanced DPS without specific weaknesses. Micro and Usability: Rosalia requires micro-management but is less intensive compared to Geraldo and Corvus. She is effective even without micro-management, and her earlier unlock helps players develop micro skills before moving on to Geraldo and Corvus. A permanent, toned-down level 20 Flight Boost is suggested for micro balance.
@destructicon844
@destructicon844 2 месяца назад
The problem is she doesn't do enough damage to be considered as a main DPS tower. She also doesn't do very well with buffs like Quincy. Also the insane amount of micro needed for the tower has no reward like corvus or geraldo have. I would place her second/third on micro and 13th/14th in hero ranking.
@rhombicosidodecaherdrons8984
@rhombicosidodecaherdrons8984 2 месяца назад
@@destructicon844 I think she definitely does enough damage to be a main dps, While I agree she doesn't do well with buffs she doesn't need them. (Aside from camo) She has some of the strongest attacks in the game.
@rhombicosidodecaherdrons8984
@rhombicosidodecaherdrons8984 2 месяца назад
@@destructicon844 I mentioned this in my long point. She definitely does not have the upside of Geraldo or Corvus but comparing to them is brutally unfair as they were and still are relatively broken, just because a hero can't solo chimps on release does not make them bad. No Micro Rosalia > No Micro Geraldo and Corvus Micro Roslia < Micro Geraldo and Corvus
@destructicon844
@destructicon844 2 месяца назад
@@rhombicosidodecaherdrons8984 I think it is completely fair to compare Rosalia with the two most recent heroes, the biggest complaint is that her level 20's main point is useless in every game mode when it should be something worth striving for. She does nothing unique, even if she's good enough to be a main DPS that just isn't enough to make a good hero when you could do less micro with many other heroes with equal or greater results: ie Quincy who you can start with in chimps. Honestly my biggest problem with her is her base cost being unaffordable without MK. Also I don't think she can pop purple but I could just be wrong about that. I think NK will listen to us and change her in the upcoming updates, so I won't worry too much. I was, however, very disappointed when the newest hero didn't change anything about the meta.
@rhombicosidodecaherdrons8984
@rhombicosidodecaherdrons8984 2 месяца назад
@@destructicon844 should the level 20 be something worth striving for? If so shouldn't something be done with all the heroes as a whole? Currently only 6 heroes have a faster leveling speed than Rosalia meaning every other hero also shares the same problem with level 20 being unreachable realistically
@wypmangames
@wypmangames 2 месяца назад
before watching: i think the duel wield is nonsense, especially the fact that she: when standing (or later flying) still/stationary, is ONLY able to use one weapon at a time... BUT if you ability tell her to go pursue the bloons, she magically gets the skill to use both weapons while actively flying/moving around the map it makes no sense why she shouldnt be able to duel wield when standing or flying stationary, and it makes even less sense that she can only duel wield while pursuing (if anything, it should be the opposite where its limited to only 1 weapon so she uses the other hand for the jetpack pursuit controls, realistically speaking) that is purely from a realism standpoint, as well as the permanent duel wield instead of it being limited being the one thing that should make her stronger then the discount, it feels lackluster, here's my suggestion for that: at level 10, robo monkey gets 5% discount, tech terror gets 10% discount and anti bloon gets 15% discount, then at level 20 she loses the pursuit ability, and instead is on pursuit mode permanently, as well as giving robo monkey a 10% discount, tech terror 20% and anti bloon 30% discout also at level 15 (for balancing sake i dont think it should be lower or higher) the ace + heli discount should also double
@nithraliabrawlstars6541
@nithraliabrawlstars6541 2 месяца назад
Idk she isnt so bad. Even though i dont like the level 10 ability and probably her main attacks and flight should be a bit more reliable.
@nelsonpina2688
@nelsonpina2688 Месяц назад
Remember when people thought Quincy was bad? Crazy to think about that now
@ShadowViperGaming43
@ShadowViperGaming43 Месяц назад
he’s not bad hes just a liar
@ShiaTheBunnyGirl
@ShiaTheBunnyGirl 2 месяца назад
The thing is I do really like the idea of rosalia being a more simple hero than corvus and geraldo while being strong but she just. Isnt strong enough to hold up. For me it feels like they tried to make it so that Rosalia was a less micro heavy hero who while still strong wasnt as good as Corvus when used at max efficiency, but her slow leveling and other weaknesses just arent good
@JoelTheParrot
@JoelTheParrot 2 месяца назад
Guardian Automoton at a level earlier than 20 feels... weird. The point of the Level 20s of heroes is to be powerful, and being that this is a buff concerning a Tier 5 I think that's still thematically where that should go. Maybe you could increase the discount or something? Or it can just rot in the world of useless Level 20 hero buffs like with Pat Fusty's. I dunno. The idea of it helping more than Anti-Bloon is nice, maybe there could be a partial automoton upgrade at a very early level that makes Tech Terror much cheaper to make the overall package more affordable. 1:55 Well that takes care of her Level 20 buff, if she levels up faster that takes care of it, I just figured we thought that was too OP if the first suggestion was even in consideration lol. Yeah just do that instead I don't like the first suggestion anyway nice suggestions aside from the first, camo and better levelling are especially nice. as for my take, it's definitely a biased buff due to me liking bottom path beast handler but i wish "Flying Towers" included the bird upgrades. Does it make logical sense for the tech genius to buff the birds? No. Is logic the forefront of BTD6? Also no. Expanding on that, let Brickell (and Carrier Flagship) buff water towers and let Obyn buff Beast Handlers in general, Obyn even has a Gyrfalcon in some taunts in Battles 2 showing the natural nature connection there so it'd be nice if a hero that has been in the game from launch had some synergy from the first brand-new tower that was added AFTER launch. It could be a cute thing to add all at once, Beast Handler's my favourite tower so it's weird that probably the most synergetic hero options with them is Striker Jones lol (With him not really doing much to benefit top path anyway, in fact when going through black border sulfur spring chimps with megalodon i chose obyn for his slowing totem to help keep bloons in the megalodon's range longer [plus that was the update that tornado druids got buffed by obyn]).
@raupi333
@raupi333 Месяц назад
I don't even need at lvl20 whole map flying just make that she can use both wapeons :,c
@magicalmage85
@magicalmage85 2 месяца назад
Guardian Automaton is likely supposed to represent Rosalia as an engineer. So it's like a robot she helps to build. But keeping it only to tier 5 fails to convey this, so they could at least apply a smaller buff to tier 3 and 4
@alohame5582
@alohame5582 2 месяца назад
I was thinking about buying Rosalia before I saw this video. My mind got changed super fast
@ShadowViperGaming43
@ShadowViperGaming43 2 месяца назад
glad i was able to save you 5000 monkey money:)
@cacapeo9884
@cacapeo9884 2 месяца назад
Not all heroes must have a passive buff. I am annoyed by the amount of people that are furious at Quincy for not giving a buff when he already a very good hero. Also the btd6 community has a trend to not go for the most fun or strong tower, just the meta ones. A total transformation with shinobis and grand sabo can kill the round 100 bad in under 10 seconds, but most of you probably didn’t know that because “its not meta”. Beast handlers are (of course powered) one of the most powerfull monkeys in the game with the most versatile strategies around them, but their last ISAB video was what, 2 years ago? Rosalia (as I find her) is a damage dealer with clean up and dps, with that does well with buffs and when energized offers you a 25k discount in a really powerfull tower, to somewhat make the 40k that you used on the energizer (that btw, if you think the energizer is just a hero buffer and ignore its powerfull attacks and reduced ability cooldowns, you’re just wrong) Is she in need of a buff? As much as any monkey. Is she in need of some recognition?? Yes Edit: I almost forgot, just because a tower looks like themathiclly it should do something, that sometimes is not the case. This is not a fantasy world story, this is a game and should be looked with more of a “game developer wanting a balanced game” lense
@zhaoyun5268
@zhaoyun5268 2 месяца назад
I thought about it for a bit and i got another idea what if Roselia got a permanent effect in the later levels where moabs take extra damage from other sources even if its a DOT effect
@LordSock
@LordSock 2 месяца назад
idk why she has nothing to do with Engineers when that looks like her whole theming
@ShadowViperGaming43
@ShadowViperGaming43 2 месяца назад
exactly!!!
@MoonStaysServing
@MoonStaysServing 2 месяца назад
I'm really disappointed that they released easily my favorite hero design, yet she's one of the weakest when Geraldo and Corvus get to dominate the game for free and still weren't meaningfully nerfed. If they're not gonna nerf the OP heroes enough, then at least let Rosalia be decently strong instead of intentionally undertune her while the powercrept heroes remain doing what they've been doing. My take is either make her OP, or make Geraldo and Corvus balanced for the first time in the game's history and nerf them into the ground.
@ShadowViperGaming43
@ShadowViperGaming43 2 месяца назад
definitely the first one i really dont want geraldo obliterated
@LoveisLight-n9r
@LoveisLight-n9r 2 месяца назад
i beat 98 to 100 on monkey meadow. with rosalia lvl 20 with cta and alch. and a spiked mines with buffs in the back. her kinetic charge does alot of dmg to moabs.
@ShadowViperGaming43
@ShadowViperGaming43 2 месяца назад
yea but you aint getting level 20 without energizer
@LoveisLight-n9r
@LoveisLight-n9r 2 месяца назад
@@ShadowViperGaming43 yea i realized that now. i just did a chimps game on town center and got her to lvl 19 with money. i also got a perma charge and a spiked mines. and a cta and 2 alchs. her lasers do good dmg against moabs and the bad. and her 10th attack is a strong explosion. so when she is flying she attacks faster with both weapons. so 10th attack triggers more often. so i think putting her on strong for the most part is best.
@AntiWareWolf
@AntiWareWolf Месяц назад
but like at lvl 18 or 19 all aces shoot 1.5x AS FAST and move 1.5x faster
@luckasneo2089
@luckasneo2089 2 месяца назад
she has the potention to be a absolute beast in expert maps if she gets the right buffs.
@ShadowViperGaming43
@ShadowViperGaming43 2 месяца назад
exactly
@zardianthelivingdragon
@zardianthelivingdragon 2 месяца назад
They should definatly buff her laser its push back on Zomgs and high damage is good but not good enough for me to swich off of the grenades like at all. Its is so god awful at multi target that i just cant use it without fear of leaking moab children. NK could maybe atleats give it the laser shock effect from the dartling gunner, or Or just increase the damage a little more. Also they could make the flight ability permenant at like level twenty for quality of like, so you dont have to keep mashing the ability.
@FazGuy2
@FazGuy2 2 месяца назад
Maybe on level 15 she would give 2 more pierce and 1 more damage to flying towers nonstop and plus on level 7 i agree with the camo and make rosalia deal 2+ damage to camo altough i have never used her or seen much but i think that these buffs would be good and if its too overpowered the worst thing that can happen is that ninja kiwi will nerf her little bit
@anthonyanthonyanthony626onig
@anthonyanthonyanthony626onig 2 месяца назад
for level 20 Rosalia she should discount all tier 5 heli and ace monkey
@MasterKnightDH
@MasterKnightDH 2 месяца назад
Rosalia already discounts all Tier 5s for Helis and Aces.
@anthonyanthonyanthony626onig
@anthonyanthonyanthony626onig 2 месяца назад
@@MasterKnightDH but like mega discounted
@anidiot4801
@anidiot4801 2 месяца назад
Reduce cost of sentry champion and two Anti Bloons, prolly won’t make her good but it’ll be fun.
@skitstheskitty2787
@skitstheskitty2787 2 месяца назад
When I got Rosalia my first instinct was to try Flooded Valley Primary Only with her because of course, she has a jetpack, she should be able to hit the bloons. But for some reason her jetpack range is limited by cover and line of sight! Is she stupid? She has a jetpack! She can FLY! I don't mind her tower self having line of sight but I SHOULD be able to put her past a sight blocker. It's weird that she's advertised as a flying DPS hero but with NONE of the perks flying towers have that allow them to be used on those tricky maps with low space and lots of sight blockers.
@MasterKnightDH
@MasterKnightDH 2 месяца назад
I could see the passive hovering being moved to a different level, and I feel Flight Boost should let Rosalia and nearby Aces/Helis detect Camo for duration anyway. Moving it to a lower Level would undoubtedly make it feel less clunky even if I could live it being at a higher Level of 8. I can point out that Rosalia's placement range ISN'T LoS; she's simply restricted to land until she has the passive hovering. The display range might simply be for Advanced Intel involvement. After Rosalia has the passive hovering, nothing about this is a problem.
@skitstheskitty2787
@skitstheskitty2787 2 месяца назад
​@@MasterKnightDHAh, nobody mentions this in their hero showcases or whatever so I didn't even know this was a thing. Nevertheless, I feel like her niche is to make hard earlygames smoother and having passive hovering only be online after earlygame... doesn't accomplish that. It feels bad that a hero I chose specifically to circumvent obstacles doesn't circumvent obstacles until like round 40.
@Shadowkiller-dq2ju
@Shadowkiller-dq2ju 2 месяца назад
If she could see cameos then she would be better
@ShadowViperGaming43
@ShadowViperGaming43 2 месяца назад
exactly
@trinstonmichaels7062
@trinstonmichaels7062 2 месяца назад
Normal when they release a new hero it starts overpowered so the community can have fun before they nerf it.
@Shitseeker
@Shitseeker 2 месяца назад
I feel like it makes more sense to have switching weapons as a ability instead of flight, and flight should be gained somewhere around 15 permanently
@didacosred9427
@didacosred9427 2 месяца назад
Ngl that would make her useless. Switching weapons is a core ability of her gameplay, without it she would just not be as fun. Also flight is literally the only reliable ability she has.
@Shitseeker
@Shitseeker 2 месяца назад
​@@didacosred9427I meant for switching weapons to be her first ability, and flight would be gain somewhere around lvl 15, sorry for not clarifying
@nithraliabrawlstars6541
@nithraliabrawlstars6541 2 месяца назад
Thats the same bad bruh. Not worth a ability. ​@@Shitseeker
@ShadowViperGaming43
@ShadowViperGaming43 2 месяца назад
this is the first comment that I 100% disagree with
@neon_twister_
@neon_twister_ 22 дня назад
Permanent fly of course
@hugojiyen6973
@hugojiyen6973 2 месяца назад
Ayo what‘s that thumbnail
@CR1MSONACE
@CR1MSONACE 2 месяца назад
My thoughts: (Writing this before watching the video) In her current state, she serves *ZERO purpose.* -Her life is worth -*-NOTHING.-*- She should (Defeat.sfx), -*-NOW!-* She isn't damage like Sauda, Adora, Churchill, Ezili, Psi, Corvus, even Quincy, the Support of Striker Jones, Benjamin, and isn't a mix of both like Gwendolin, Pat Fusty, Geraldo, Brickell, Obyn, or Etienne with Global Camo. Every other hero is mentioned there. Go check. *Majorly decrease her XP requirements.* She shouldn't reach LV20 after longer than an Undertale Speedrunner does. It should be Early 80s. Maybe Late 70s for Expert maps. *Make her buffs better in general.* 30% more flight speed doesn't do anything for 2 Ace Crosspaths and isn't even that good for the 3rd. It's useful for Helis, sure, but it can only apply to 4 or 5, usually less. *Make it global* and increase their attack speed aswell at a MINIMUM. *Make the discount more than 5%* too. It's cheaper to place a discount village or even lower the difficulty. *Make her buffs apply to all "Mechanical" towers,* not just Aces and Helis _(e.g X-3-X Super Monkeys, Tack Shooters, Spike Factories, Engineers, Possibly even increasing Village Range)._ She's a general Tinkerer, not a plane engineer (And if she was, she would work for Boeing). Additionally, *her character is flatter than PM:Sticker Star's story* and her design is worse than Quincy's aim. They can only really fix that with a skin though. She has a weird lightning bolt on her shirt like Megamind -and Kaioken from the bad Megamind "sequels"- and they're both tinkerers, maybe there's something there? And since we're on the topic of Shows/Movies, maybe an Iron man/Fallout style armour? (Yes, I know, Fallout counts as a show, what a weird time we live in.) I've watched the video now, and apparently she can't see Camos? That's stupid. Give her Camo detection. Her lack of Camo detection only adds to her inability to do anything. In fact, maybe make her de-camo bloons? She has a laser pistol, and lasers are *Light Amplified* by the *Stimulated Emissions* of *Radiation.* And night-vision just uses a certain lighting. You're telling me someone amplifying light with radiation can't find bright bloons but someone with green goggles can?
@MasterKnightDH
@MasterKnightDH 2 месяца назад
Camo issues is an intended weakness, though I will say that Flight Boost should grant her and nearby Aces/Helis Camo detection for duration as a happy medium that would also emphasize her utility involvement. Rosalia can be placed where she can be expected to shoot at early MOABs in the 90s. Even with Adrenaline Rush being grossly inept where it stands, this is still handy for Round 98. The user rhombicosidodecaherdrons8984 pointed out that Rosalia can work with more complex maps as well. It's really the overall basic performance in other aspects otherwise that is the problem, but I would not call her hopelessly bad at all. "Majorly decrease her XP requirements." No. Her performance outside the enhanced laser is the problem, not her level up speed which wouldn't change anything worth caring about. "Make her buffs better in general." To an extent, something should get going with this. This isn't a priority but it should at least be put on the table. "Make her buffs apply to all "Mechanical" towers" I actually could see this apply at a later Level, particularly her Level 11 to make that into a "kid in a candy store" level up. Rosalia is still supposed to be an air specialist, but more options is always welcome, and including Spike Factory would especially be nice not only by involving passive Camo support but also further incentivizing more forward positioning of Spike Factories. "her character is flatter than PM:Sticker Star's story" Now this I take offense with. Look up "Entrapta and Hordak crushing on eachother for 4:07 minutes straight" and tell me Entrapta is a flat character. Rosalia's character is similar aside from the lack of story arc, which already isn't a problem in the context of BTD6, and I'm definitely welcoming as much. And I can point out that BTD6 isn't meant to be hyper-realistic anyway. Liberties can be taken especially in the interest of better gameplay.
@AntiWareWolf
@AntiWareWolf Месяц назад
beaing honest faster leveling and perma lvl 7
@martinshoosterman
@martinshoosterman 2 месяца назад
Meh, Churchill needs a buff way more than Rosalie does.
@ShadowViperGaming43
@ShadowViperGaming43 2 месяца назад
i cant stir up controversy with churchill tho
@_factorial
@_factorial 2 месяца назад
uhh make level 20 rosalia buff engigon's damage by 20%
@rubyace7058
@rubyace7058 2 месяца назад
all chimps guide youtubers doing runs with rosa just nerfing themselves honestly
@Tanui0
@Tanui0 2 месяца назад
She is not damage dealer LAMO. She exit to make your towers cheaper.
@ShadowViperGaming43
@ShadowViperGaming43 2 месяца назад
which is legit only useful for like 2 or 3 upgrades
@Tanui0
@Tanui0 2 месяца назад
@ShadowViperGaming43 She is good for heli/ace spam exactly like Striker is good for bombs spam. Just make X32 village or even better perma brew and you good to go. I like some of those suggestions not gona lie. She should be cheaper and level up faster for sure.
@Tanui0
@Tanui0 2 месяца назад
@ShadowViperGaming43 Oh and it's 5 upgrades exactly like discount village. You can really make it work if you know how.
@BienvinidoBurog-ph1mk
@BienvinidoBurog-ph1mk Месяц назад
Give it 3 round burst 1111rpm
@the_phantom_cat7912
@the_phantom_cat7912 22 дня назад
She souds so cool in theory, but she's just so bad unfortunately
@SHHDADDYSWORKN
@SHHDADDYSWORKN 2 месяца назад
The list is only gonna add up for nk taking L's. If you werent a creator and played events on a more competitive scale youd probably see why theyre hurting their dedicated fans just like battles 2.
@ShadowViperGaming43
@ShadowViperGaming43 2 месяца назад
i dont really play battles 2 much, how are they hurting the fans in battles 2?
@SHHDADDYSWORKN
@SHHDADDYSWORKN 2 месяца назад
Oh sorry I ment upon battles 2 release, just terrible should've stayed in dev longer like most of their new towers and heroes. They really need like a test server or give yall creators very early access to give criticism.
@AntiWareWolf
@AntiWareWolf Месяц назад
perma lvl 7 at lvl 20?
@AntiWareWolf
@AntiWareWolf Месяц назад
4:36 im not the only one ig but yes PLEASE
@didacosred9427
@didacosred9427 2 месяца назад
They should just rework her lvl 3 and 10 abilities, especially 10. The lvl 3 just takes too long to activate for such insignificant damage, I think they should either buff the damage a lot or make them faster to activate (But still buff the damage a bit because before lvl 14 they are USELESS and it's not even up to debate). Lvl 10 FOR THE LOVE OF GOD PLEASE CHANGE THE EFFECTS. I have never seen such disrespect in visual and sound design, most times I can't even know when the bomb explodes because I hear nothing and see nothing, it's really really bad. My idea for a gameplay rework would be making it so that the bomb has worse base damage but it would scale better with charge. Either that or make it so that it's a stun and the charge makes it stronger with low damage. The only thing that's truly needed is changing the visual and sound effects of the 10 ability because it doesn't feel neither makes you feel powerful
@AriaCorvus
@AriaCorvus 2 месяца назад
I do think we shouldn't take geraldo and corvus as a standard of power for heroes since they're supposed to be high skill floor elites.
@ShadowViperGaming43
@ShadowViperGaming43 2 месяца назад
right but they're only good if you micro so you have to work for it
@AriaCorvus
@AriaCorvus 2 месяца назад
@@ShadowViperGaming43 yep hence the phrase "high skill floor"
@Funcrashmalej
@Funcrashmalej 2 месяца назад
2:42 NOT true
@totaloof
@totaloof 2 месяца назад
I quite like, rosalia, feels like one of the old fashioned place-them-down-forget-about-them, despite the jetpack and swapping mechanics. I just place her down and it just kinda works \_(ツ)_/ obv better heroes for that but I prefer rosalia for some reason
@LIKE_IDK
@LIKE_IDK 2 месяца назад
Absolutely milking the other video (im jealous)
@ShadowViperGaming43
@ShadowViperGaming43 2 месяца назад
i really turned into a view farmer, im ashamed of myself 💔
@pi6141
@pi6141 2 месяца назад
I will not condone such form of rosa slander
@ShadowViperGaming43
@ShadowViperGaming43 2 месяца назад
lmao sorry
@neuplop
@neuplop 2 месяца назад
I think she should make a song.
@ShadowViperGaming43
@ShadowViperGaming43 2 месяца назад
who, rosalia?
@neuplop
@neuplop 2 месяца назад
@@ShadowViperGaming43 there's a Spanish singer with the same name so I was joking about it. (Probably the monkey makes better songs)
@ShadowViperGaming43
@ShadowViperGaming43 2 месяца назад
@@neuplop my bad i didnt realize that wait actually i remember some of her songs now lol
@sneezywheezyboy1652
@sneezywheezyboy1652 2 месяца назад
Ninja kiwi is NOT going to see yo videos 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@ShadowViperGaming43
@ShadowViperGaming43 2 месяца назад
ngl with 70k views they mightve seen the last one
@sneezywheezyboy1652
@sneezywheezyboy1652 2 месяца назад
​@@ShadowViperGaming43nah
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