RTA Tierlist Update: ML HASTE VS ML SENYA BEGINNING OF CONTENTION SEASON! [Epic seven] 

He's overall not well suited to the meta for the moment imho, he doesn't offer much apart from S2 --> S3 and building him well enough for him to do his job well requires insane gear in Champion+ You need to have him very fast for most situations, with as much Bulk and ER% as you can or you will end up easily controlled / killed, he's a fairly difficult character to gear and find a neat situation for He might have a resurgence tho who knows, it's true that barriers are very common rn

Djb is one of those units that's easy to use on paper, but hard to use in practice. I tested djb many times against bride and bmh drafts but always felt he was a waste of a pick(he's too passive if no barriers), and the barrier inversion was not quite as useful as I'd imagine. Also, injury is just straight up better than barrier inversion; less hp = less barrier. If s2 inflicted injuries after barrier inversion tho 👀 I dont agree that with you saying elvemage putting djb too low because I think he really underestimates djb because the meta is just too aggro, no picks to spare for djb. Tldr: djb not a real unit in the meta

usually djb just dies. haste and senya barrier only happen after you do dmg to their team and then they can nuke your team making the timing to barrier invert really really hard to use

@@Elvemage59 I typically build him slow counter tanky on WO, his inbuilt albedo passive makes him deceptively tanky. (and the surprise push up when ppl try to nuke him has won me quite a few games)

around 12k mcd with torrent, 150+ speed 150+ er, i like it a lot but its hard to build

We have 4 strongest units in the last 1.5 months. So it's even worse. And rgb jenua doesn't solve the problem, but synergies with others 3 ml5s.

Because the game is dying, they're just releasing broken units b2b2b whilst rushing limiteds out to milk the playerbase for the last bit of money they can before announcing end of service

I disagree

mine is something in between, you can check all my stats on my discord or my unit video on youtube! mine 235 speed 110 eff and rest dmg

You can do it without them

i think bmh. or pity senya and try ur luck on bmh

or like counter 3f with some dmg

Not op but yes. As he’s saying, I’m in champion and every game ml senya and ml haste are traded first picks.

Senya works really well in cleave so I think you would be trolling yourself.

Even as an aggro cleave player you need an achor. You can not full cleave in current meta, they play jenua senya bmh you die painfully.

usable but to weak to debuffs and units like laia

@@Elvemage59yes i agree and she weak agains injury skill hero

sounds like a great plan! fumyr is still really really good

Her block doesn't prevent self-cleanse, and just because back row won't be cleansed does not mean that senya can't nuke you. In theory she sounds okay, but she really is not good. Also, bind does not seal passives it only prevents counter attacks. Jenua cleanses out of that debuff, and ml haste is unaffected. bind is not seal.

@@randomnobody9229 none of the 3 I mentioned can self cleanse especially Jenua because it's the product of his S2. It doesn't stop passives but it should stop procs IE Jenua gets his push but not Plan A specifically. Senya shouldn't be able to activate Bridal Training or whatever even if she still gets some S2 benefits. I guess she's just somewhat overshadowed by Nahkwol with Celine running around.

​@@Living_Target The cleanse activates before bridal prayer is triggered on ML Senya, I own her and she works great against Nahkwol. Haste is so good he doesn't really care about the debuff. You are right about Jenua cleanse though.

@@randomnobody9229 how shortsighted from the balance team on senya imo

Issue with shoux is she has nothing besides that. So your team needs to essentially provide the rest of utility to protect her, make sure she is not cc'd , make sure she gets turns etc etc. which is hard to do in a draft setting. Secondly she has to spend a lot of time targeting one unit. Like she needs 3 turns of hers to get the kill which naturally would be 3 full cycles and thats a very long time in rta. A lot of matches would start to end by that because of all the speed and nuke potential in rta.

One word unbuffable

@@Rohit-om3yzshe does give your whole team spd buff, can‘t agree with her not having anything other than injury, because it‘s simply not true, she does offer quite a lot of dmg all around, if she is fast enough, the speed buff is a super strong utility for a lot of other units or comps, so yeah she‘s definetly not as useless as you just tried to place her

@@germainmatthews7780 Argue with her not being higher against elve then. Not me 👍.

Elve literally said the best injury unit in the game, i don‘t see anything wrong with that, not worth arguing about because i do not disagree with him😂 i just disagreed with what you said, that‘s why i replied too you. No hard feelings or anything involved😅

celine is just the nail in the coffin, you have to deal with zio bunny ran peira and outspeed ml poli

it feels amazing!

Aras so good with new protect pick

kinda amazing how a knight with so much utility is not good!

@@Elvemage59 3rd pick ras is OP. Stream confirmed

Ml senya can cleanse and aoe if she has oath buff, spec tene can't live 1 senya s3 :v other than splash dmg and aoe user like yufine and landy it hard to use her like before

there is to much aoe and senya just one shots her. even then most drafts can out tempo stene

@@Elvemage59 I meant tene+haste+senya, tene protected?

@@looots1320 yeah ofc that works, but thats assuming you have both senya and haste

Such a cap coment Yufine and Landy did the same in their time shining.

Smilegate loves giving tanks 1million damage, just like irl tanks