RTP Genesis vs Great Plains - Which No Till Food Plot Drill is BEST? 

Glad it was helpful! Check out our newest comparison featuring differences between the Genesis and PH Outdoors drill. Lots of new info there as well. Thanks for watching!

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@@genesiscustomfoodplots Will do!!

What was the info? I seemed to have missed and not heard anything about planting corn when watching.

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Thanks Tom, appreciate the support! For the vast majority of folks I wouldn't recommend the front coulters. If you have hard ground your could simply remove the depth gauge pins and let weight of the drill work the disk openers in and let it plant where it plants. That would probably work. I would also agree with you on the 3P500, nice machine, especially for flat, sandy ground. I'd likely do the same if that were the only ground I was working; good option! Small seed box is nice to have, we like and use ours often. Thanks for watching!

Thanks for watching Jim, appreciate it! Unfortunately, we haven't had any experience with that drill set up from Great Plains. We did look extensively at buying the 8' with lift assist but just didn't see the economic benefit when compared to the cost of the Genesis. Look for a new video on drills coming soon, we just took delivery of 2 8' PH Outdoors G8's and will be updating this video soon.

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Hi Sam - we use Mystik 14 oz JT-6 Multi - Purpose Lithium Complex Grease. We did deconstruct all the wheels on our Genesis and replaced all rivets with bolts and replaced all the bearings. Per the recommendation of RTP, we used 6205-2RS, 25x52x15 Sealed bearings and removed the inside seal on the bearings so you can continue greasing them effectively. If one fails, it will now be much easier to replace them by just taking the bolts out. We also added a bead of silicone around the entire rim where it meets the tire and also siliconed the blank holes to help prevent unwanted dirt. Hope that's helpful and thanks for watching!

@@genesiscustomfoodplots This is GREAT information! I have had my 5 HD for 2 seasons now and cannot tell you how much grease I have used. Grease before I start planting, grease when I break for lunch and grease at the end of the day..... Thank you for this bearing # and all the information!

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Thanks for watching Jeff - sounds like you have a good program going for your application. Best of luck and thanks for the support!

My lift capacity is 2500 lb at 24 inches

HI Marc - we used 5/16" - 18 x 1 1/2" grade 8 bolt which should thread into the shackle itself. We secured it further with a lock nut on the back side. Thanks for watching!

Thank you. Very helpful!

I had my first D Shackle pin fall out today on the bottom shackle. We could not get a new pin in because there is not enough space between the discs to fit the pin back into the shackle and we didn't have the 5/16" bolts on hand. Did you run into this problem? Thank you.

Hi David - I think this will come down to your soil and if you continue to plant mixes. The MPS2607 should do just fine in good quality light to loamy soil. If you have heavy or rocky ground, I would go the 606NT route. The MPS drill won't give you the planting depth control nor the exacting seed volume control as the 606NT will but for the blends you are planting, it's also not as critical. The 606NT will perform much better if you are planting single crops of larger seeds like soybeans. I suspect the MPS will do it just not as well as it's a better design for planting smaller seeds like the others in your blends. Overall, my take is the MPS is a high quality tool that will do well with smaller seeds/blends in good soil. If you are looking at larger seeds or your soil is rocky and heavy, the 606NT may be the better route. That's my $.02 for what it's worth. Thanks for the support!

@@genesiscustomfoodplots Thanks for the quick and detailed response!

Hi Nick - we can certainly work on this. Need some warmer weather as we have most of that equipment stored, but it will be out as we get closer to spring and we can try to shoot a video on how we set up the spray system on the no till drills and our corn planter. Thanks for watching, appreciate the support!

@@genesiscustomfoodplots Thankyou for the feedback, I had saw in a couple videos that you carry a tank in the bucket of the tractor to help appicate while planting. Thanks again for replying.

HI Brody, On the genesis, you can certainly seed at a low enough rate for it to work. That said, if you are planting very small acreage, you will likely need some extra seed just to insure fill and keep all the seed tubes full to make sure you are continuously planting. That's true for both GP and Genesis. If we are planting clover for the first time (i.e. not an overseed), we often mix the clover with a cover crop of oats and that will give you plenty of seed. You are also correct that the GP gives you more precise versatility. You can more accurately calibrate and plant large and small seeds together with two boxes and also gives better depth control, especially for the small seeds. The Genesis will plant everything in a blend, but you need to err on the side of planting shallow for everything to grow and also make sure you blend your seed very well to make sure you are planting the correct amount of each species in the mix. It's also a good idea to get out and remix the blends by hand while planting with the Genesis as some blends will settle out the smallest seed to the bottom of the seed box giving uneven plantings. If all you ever planted were small seeds, and only needed one box, I'd give the edge to the Genesis, however, as it's much easier to calibrate. You can plant fluffy see through the Genesis, but it's much easier through the native box on the GP. The GP has a specialized auger to keep the seed from compacting and much larger seed tubes for the natives to prevent clogging. That said, we tried the Genesis for natives last year and planted a very fluffy mix and blended it with Marth Easy Pick wood shavings to make sure it flowed. It was definitely an experiment but we did get it to work after a little trial and error which isn't ideal with seed that runs several hundred dollars and acre! Hope that helps. Thanks for the support!

We have our corn and soybeans delivered to our shop direct from the individual seed companies. We have our fall forage blends custom made and delivered to our shop as well. Feel free to shoot me an email or message via Facebook and we can talk about helping you get seed if you need it. Thanks!

We have tried planting row corn with both the Genesis and Great Plains and neither are very good at consistency. At the end of the day, they are not designed to meter seed in any way other than weight. To maximize corn, it really needs to be done with a corn planter. I would say we have even had better success broadcasting corn than planting through the drill (see broadcast corn video). Not saying it can't be done, but the drill is not the best tool for the job for consistency. Good luck and thanks for watching!

6205-2RS is the bearing number. 2 bearings on each press wheel. We removed the inner seal on each of them to still grease them. We’ve had to change one since we replaced them all. We also drilled out all the rivets in the two piece wheel and replaced them with bolts. Makes future changes much easier. Sorry your’e having issues. Good luck!

@@genesiscustomfoodplots Thanks! I'm having a hard time comprehending where the grease could go if you eventually got it all full. Wouldn't it hit the backside of the solid tire if it goes out the seam?

@@midwesthabitatcompany9321 once you get a wheel apart you’ll see what’s going on. There are several places the grease settles in and it’s not the bearings. You’ll be surprised how big the cavity is that needs to be filled. We also siliconed the seam between the rubber tire and the two piece wheel. Best of luck!

Seems like a lot of guys are doing it though. $30k is pretty high as you can get a 5' GP drill in the low 20's, but still a lot of cash none the less. We do it commercially so it makes sense for the acres we run and the small places we need to get into. Thanks for watching and appreciate the support!

I wouldn't say junk, as it has planted a lot of acres for us, but it does require a good deal more in repair time and cost. We are doing more repairs now after planting about 350 acres with it this spring. Thanks for watching, appreciate the support!