I am confused, why would you pick 13900k over 14900k? when 1. 14900k is clearly better CPU, 2. it is the best CPU on the platform and will hold it's value longer, 3. costs approximately the same (30$ difference on Newegg).
Power draw (cost to run) vs performance output. 14900k is basically the 3090ti of cpus. Its not an improvement efficiency wise, but rather just throwing more power at binned chips and marketing them as new.
Literally no one cares how much power is drawn from a desktop CPU, if you were talking about mobile chips you would have an argument. The only reason power is constantly bought up is the levels of desperation AMD fanboi's have to stoop to find specs that are competitive.
@@ads3453 Do you even know the reason behind that suggestion ? and i'm using i9 13900k by the way in addition living in a country where electricity price are cheap, so your statement are useless.
@magtral You have just stated that your power is cheap yet you still think whining about power levels is legitimate ??? Power draw is a tiny consideration even for people in countries where electricity is expensive as you only have the PC on for a limited period of time.
@@ads3453 Still haven't figured out why i suggest those test result to be included, even after i told you my current processor that i used ? yet kept on talking about power draw. Better stop this conversation before you embarassing yourself further ( you've already made baseless accusations in your first reply without knowing what setup i used and what i use it for ), i gave you another hint, at least 2 of my pc always on 24/7.
@@ads3453 No one care ? dude you better stop making this baseless assumption by saying he/she a fanboi without even knowing the setup he/she are using. I'm running internet cafe with 30 pc in it and at least half of it always on. So power draw it's big matter whenever i decide to upgrade those pc or not. I don't care if it's intel or amd as long it can fit my need.
1000 watt will be fine even if you overclock both the cpu and gpu. Just don't heavily overclock both, like a 20 to 25% overclock because you might need 1200 wat and a extremely, insanely beefy cpu cooler for that. 4090 cooler is already completely nuts. And the cooler is already in the graphics card itself when you buy it. In short, just don't overclock beyond 20 to 25% and 1000 watts will be enough. Your psu would have around 90% load, which is totally fine and normal.
I’ve had the choice this week. Went with the i9 14900k over anything else. Been wanting the intel flagship for quite some years. Together with a 4080 gigabytes aero and 64 gigs of DDR5 im confident the pc will be great fun
My boy, I hate to break it to you, but you should have probably gone AMD. Now I personally run an i9 14900k, so I really like Intel, but I'm also starting to regret it, LGA1700 is a DEAD platform, Intel is killing it, the 15th gen is gonna be on a different platform. AMD on the other hand is gonna be supporting AM5 until 2026 I think.
LOL. Why did you not add the results from the 7800X3D to the tests? At least for the gaming Benchmarks considering this is the best AMD CPU? You added the 7900x 7700x and 7600x which are all markedly inferior for gaming?
You have the best RTX 4090 right there. Can tell by the corners of the Asus box. My computer store company tested all that has come to market and that one reliably is able to live between 2910-3060mhz core and +1000 mem without even adding any power or voltage. Yet, you can add 33% more power if you wanted. The massive heatsink and fan tech is unreal. It also likes the NZXT H7 Elite Premium case with the 3x 140mm front fans and rear 140mm rear fan. We tested it for an hour running multiple GPU benchmarks at the same time and the hotspot never even reached 80c with a max fan speed of 60%. Also, after using the i9-14900k, i7-14700k we found the i5-14600kf to be the best all rounder. Was extremely easy to overclock to 5.8ghz all P core and 4.5 all E-Cores with XMP Ram of over 6400mhz cl30, ring 48x+ and manually setting voltages of CPU. Running at 100% the CPU can use only 100watts max and keeps the heat right down and smashes all games and productivity. Ideal for gaming and general use. Using the Arctic liquid freezer ii 360mm argb and was going to upgrade to the III or a Lian-Li Galahad II Trinity Performance 360mm but absolutely no point.
@@TheNobleBlueHorizon-64 As there is no overclocking on the 7800X3D it is pointless to go with a X670 IMO. You could get the same performance out of a B650 and only spend 150 or less if you want to go micro atx.
I have a i9-14900K, ROG Strix Z790-E Gaming WiFi, and MSI RTX4090 Gaming Trio, and I can't get ANY popular benchmark programs to run! None of them can seem to connect my GPU once the tests start. It plays BF2042 at crazy speeds on ultra, does everything fast, 240hz 49" G9 Ultrawide Samsung monitor, all the drivers are updated, GPU is connected to PCIe x16, 990 PRO M.2, and I have tried every fix imaginable. Any ideas???
what are your thoughts on the asus rog z790 a gaming motherboard for intel 14th gen? I just purchased the new one. Building an all white build and it was the only white one they offered besides the formula, which I thought was overkill. What liquid cooler would you recommend? You mentioned maybe the 360 cooler might not have been enough for the 14900k. I understand you cant pin point that exactly, but I value your opinion. Just purchased a 4090 and 14900k and I was gonna get the NZXT Kraken Elite 360 cooler. Please let me know as soon as possible. Thanks in advance!
As someone who built their first one yesterday, I’d recommend just making sure if you get the same brand fans. The kraken from what I can tell is basically top of the line with a few others. I accidentally got lian li fans and a Corsair aio. The problem I had was my mobo had only 2 usb 2.0 internal headers. The aio has an lcd which plugged into one of the usb headers and then the commander to control the fans/rgb also plugged into one. So then your left with another set of fans whose commander will have nowhere to plug in. They do make expansions which you can use to add another header or just get the same brand in the first place lol.
my mother board has more slots. My plan is to get the kraken aio 360 and then 10 lian li infinity fans. Just wasnt sure if a 420 aio is a better move. Going to research some. Thanks for the response@@JLP_710
Lmao😂😂😂😂 Ya'll didn't notice that his last few test comparing the dfiferefps in games that he didn't include the Ryzen 7 7800x3D chips or any of the x3D chips. 🤔 I think we know why.
@@ImUrMISERYbut it also has frequent dips in fps, which is where intel wins with stability. Otherwise, you’re right ryzen is cheaper and way less power hungry.
HOW INTEL STOLE $285 from me? I bought an open box Core i9 from the largest vendor in the US and maybe the world. The CPU did not work so I sent it to Intel for warranty repair or replace because the model itself was less than a year old so it must be under warranty. Open box and demo units are treated like new by manufacturers regarding warranty. Intel told me that the CPU was not genuine and refused to return it. The vendor said they will refund me if I send the CPU back. Intel refused. So Intel, the crook, & the vendor profited and the victim paid the price. Later I found out that CPU lids can be swapped as long as they are the same socket. So if you have a dead Celeron lid swapped with a new i9 lid, then return the dead Celeron for an i9 refund and keep the i9 CPU. That is a serious design flaw that Intel should pay for not the victims. Intel have not changed the flawed design on their latest models.
The 4090 would handle 1440p with no problem, as it seems to hold its own in 4K. However, if you're only playing 1440p. maybe consider a 4070 Ti Super, or 4080 Super instead of the 2K 4090..
@@ThatXNMdude It always comes down to money, I'd say. I recently built an i9-14900k + 4090 system and while it maxes out at my 1440 monitor's 144 fps for pretty much everything, there are exceptions. Enshrouded comes to mind, where it can at times even dip below 100. If that's already happening today, at 1440, I don't feel I made a bad choice overpaying for a 4090.
Mine is two days away along with everything else needed for my upgrade build, only thing I’m still waiting to buy is graphic card … I am very torn between 7900XTX or 4090
The question is do you want to spend basically 700 more for a little bit better performance, do you play at 4k? If not definitely just get the xtx it’s what I did
@@illumitiDash I will be playing 4k, my current system is way out of date and I play primarily single player games so I want the eye candy more than super high fps
@@aron6998 if your playing 4k then the 4090 is going to give you better frames at 4k then the 4080 and the xtx although like I said it’s going to be at least 6-7 hundred dollars more and you have to keep in mind the xtx and 4080 are still going to give you above 60 frames in basically every game at 4k so you just gotta decide if it’s worth the price for a 4090
@@illumitiDash yeah honestly money isn’t that big of a deal to me I honestly just despise the nvidia tax but I do keep going back and looking at the Strix 4090
generally yes, since you don't have to change platform, ram, etc. But also depends what is your current CPU+GPU combo is. if your GPU is a bottleneck, then CPU upgrade won't change anything.
Was wondering if this pc build is worth for 4k dollars (This is based on EU prices, which do tend to be higher than in the US, and full price, so with no discounts): CPU: Intel Core i9-13900KF 3 GHz 24-Core Processor CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken Elite 360 RGB 78.02 CFM Liquid Motherboard: MSI MPG Z790 EDGE WIFI ATX LGA1700 RAM: TEAMGROUP T-Force Delta RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory Storage: Samsung 990 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive x2 GPU: Sapphire PULSE Radeon RX 7900 XTX 24 GB Video Card Case: NZXT H9 Flow ATX Mid Tower PSU: SeaSonic PRIME TX-1000 1000 W 80+ Titanium Certified Fully Modular ATX Fans: Corsair LL120 43.25 CFM 120 mm Fans 3-Pack x2 Corsair LL140 51.5 CFM 140 mm Fan Extra: RGB Cable extensions This would be my first ever build, but not sure if I could make improvements. I'm going for 1440 gaming for more competitive games (like Apex) and 4k gaming for singleplayers and other non-competitive games (like Elden Ring/ Cyberpunk). I'll have a 1440 monitor and a 4k monitor.
Solid build, Not sure about 4K, but it's nice. Air cooled 12900KF with a TR Phantom Spirit 120. Have a 7900XTX (Merc one) and it's great card. You're probably spending a lot on case and fans, though I'm not sure if you want to substitute there cheaper case/fans or just go for it. 7900XTX is huge, mine did fit in an existing case but the size of the larger cards limits the case selection also.
@@dianaalyssa8726 Tyvm for the feedback. ^^ Case and fans is mostly for looks and how it fits + airflow seemed nice. xD I used pcpartpicker for compatibility and made sure to check the Case and GPU's dimensions to make sure it fits. $4k is my budget so almost got me there, slightly less. Hopefully there are discounts that can make it cheaper, but will see. :) Not sure how accurate benchmarks and fps calculators are, but it seemed enough for most singleplayer games at 4k, although not at ultra settings. But High/Medium seems good enough to hit above 80fps.
Thing is intel is sponsoring all these big youtubers thats why every one is building with it amd is the clear winner is cpu and intel is aware so they are buying out all these youtubers wich is why ur prob not gonna see a amd build anytime soon.
@@snaggy1212 Well, with AMD rising up and beating out Nvidia in GPU price to preformance and Intel in CPU price to preformance, they have been and still will make more money as time goes on and they might be soon be sponsoring RU-vidrs like Intel does. If they do, they'll most likely do it more because of how much more money they're making. So I think I will see a 7950X3D build with the RTX 4090 soon but those are just my thoughts and not everyone is correct.
@@maynardmiller7663 that was unclear that you will be waiting for 150$ discount. Not sure how long you will have to wait though. It might take a while. As of right now, I don’t see a reason to buy 13900k, price is way too close to 14900k.
Cache has no use or meaning when gaming, nor core count, it's been established that speed is still KING, which Intel is ridiculously good at it, you overclock any of them pass 5.0GHz, and it's better at gaming than the mediocre competition. Needless to say that with an Intel, you can use high Vc, and no issues, just keeping it cool, just keeping it cool!!! My 12600K, 5.2GHz for two years now.....or 5.1? Something like that.
asus tuf motherboard not have wifi 7 and not have for m.2 pcie5.0 not recomendet , also asus tuf case nothing good ' nzxt psu not suport for 4 series video card not pcie 5.0 conector ,also not recomendet ;
Intel says its not about performance but about power efficiency if we compare that it can be a better option for upgrading from 12th gen but from 13th gen it isn't a big lap
It depends on the end-use, though. Gaming? Not so different from the 13700K. Productivity? There is "some" performance boost in general thanks to the extra e-cores, at the cost of higher power consumption, but unless you're trying to maximize your workflow, the 13700K is still a decent option.
@@FenderJaguar66 For your use case scenario, you're set to play the waiting game for even longer, unless there's a massive jump in processing power in the next 5-6 years.
@@daniil3815I’m still learning about pc stuff and builds but my brother bought me a 4090 😮 and told me build the rest …. Now what ? Lmao (doing research on what to really do next) and as far a budget .. I’d want the best stuff so I won’t have to upgrade for a long time. I’m not rich but I’m sure not poor 🤡🥸
The 14th gen cpu's are a joke and are not even worth noticing their existance. The new motherboards have some nice and interesting new tech which I always love to see. Idk how Asus boards don't have 65watt to 100watt USB-C fast charging considering a lot of their products do but I guess they will on next years models? I mean Asus rog strix product buyers generally stick to buying only Asus rog strix stuff so they will likely own the rog phones or the rog Ally and will need 65+ watt fast charging right? idk thoughts