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Rugby's Most Violent Match of ALL TIME | France vs England 1992 

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@rugbydrive
@rugbydrive Год назад
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@iangraham871
@iangraham871 Год назад
The game changed for the worse when it went professional with the "avoid losing at all costs" attitude, which led to teams consisting of 15 props who can't tackle properly but somehow stop the opposition advancing. The speed and athleticism of all the players was a joy to behold in this video - but most violent of all time?? No way, and no need to dress it up as such.
@davidspendlove5900
@davidspendlove5900 Год назад
Is it me or is the rugby from this period just better.Lower tackles better rucks , more handling skills , and all this from amateurs.
@darthmong7196
@darthmong7196 Год назад
Thing is, to my knowledge, none of the guys from this period have suffered with dementia or from long-term effects of concussion. They weren't giant mutants who hit guys for a job; they were regular guys who had to be back at work on Monday morning. Food for thought.
@hafidkouloun6405
@hafidkouloun6405 Год назад
It was!
@johnnunn8688
@johnnunn8688 Год назад
Yeah and they didn’t have the protective rules, that today’s players enjoy.
@Loosehead
@Loosehead Год назад
Lower tackles means the hands are free to offload. I think a tackler would seek to prevent that.
@ezekiel-re7vy
@ezekiel-re7vy Год назад
No it wasn't, back then was a stop and go sport
@annoyingbstard9407
@annoyingbstard9407 Год назад
The French team of this era was the most exciting I’ve seen.
@rh5466
@rh5466 Год назад
I'm just going to come right out and say it. Rugby back then, as a sport, as a thing to play and watch and follow, was way better than the rugby today.
@riverwolf654
@riverwolf654 Год назад
100 percent more exciting
@matthewbrown313
@matthewbrown313 Год назад
Was more about speed, skill, fitness and technique in those days, now its all about strength, power and forcing your way through the opposition rather than trying to get around them.
@derekdevaney2242
@derekdevaney2242 Год назад
The way the French used to run the ball... beautiful
@Stangelycoloured
@Stangelycoloured Год назад
Amen
@mimoslavich6639
@mimoslavich6639 Год назад
@@matthewbrown313 australian coaches, from eddie jones onwards, were big rugby league fans and hence why they run straight at the lines now.
@SuperJim44
@SuperJim44 Год назад
Golden age of rugby right there.Free flowing, full of action and drama. Rugby went downhill from 1995 😢
@jaredrika391
@jaredrika391 Год назад
Yup I agree, personally I liked the rules best in 96! I tell my son about rucking and he thinks that is insane!! 😂
@maxcullen3427
@maxcullen3427 Год назад
Truth just hearing those names heart starts fastening 🏉🏉
@ldfreitas9437
@ldfreitas9437 Год назад
Yes! Now there are a few clubs that aren't cutting it financially, because top players have to be paid to play since 1995. Beforehand, one played for the fun of it, not for financial reward, and if there was any reward, it was in the form of a job, car, maybe a place to live (France), maybe some Ls (sorry, I'm in America) in the boot (Wales). And in America, there were once semi-pro teams of various sports, like basketball, American football, softball, mostly company teams, and they'd have been considered professionals by the Rugby Union.
@thadtuiol1717
@thadtuiol1717 Год назад
I love that most of the players back then (with the exception of a few 'shamateurs') were just ordinary blokes working day jobs, who you could often just have a drink with after a game, and I include even the internationals players. Everything felt so much more real back then, like you were part of a community.
@itwoznotme
@itwoznotme Год назад
now this is the rugby i grew up watching! micky skinner...........always a legend for 'that tackle'!
@treblebbb3388
@treblebbb3388 Год назад
The one where the Munch picked up a player and walked him back? 1991 world cup? Memory says semi in Paris, could be wrong on that point.
@rh5466
@rh5466 Год назад
@@treblebbb3388 You're not wrong. It was Skinner on Cecillon, while that brute Eric Champ stood there and watched.
@sd3457
@sd3457 Год назад
@@treblebbb3388 Quarters, not semi and it was Marc Cecillon.
@ronanrogers4127
@ronanrogers4127 Год назад
Players were noticeably more mobile in this era…natural athletic physiques, clearly spending more time skills training than lifting weights.
@smilodontiger5675
@smilodontiger5675 Год назад
Not the most violent (I have seen much worse) but it has to be said there was some beautiful running rugby ..... so much better to watch than what we get today.
@Exercise_as_Medicine
@Exercise_as_Medicine Год назад
The French Centres and Backs were incredible 🎉
@gaelsaussereau4375
@gaelsaussereau4375 Год назад
Penaud, Skrela has sons. 😊
@bastienconstans3784
@bastienconstans3784 Год назад
The players are flying what a beauty is this not even France or NZ could play like this today , ( they are the two team with the most beautiful an living ball in game )
@mufuliramark
@mufuliramark Год назад
I played rugby from late 70’s, 80’s,90’s and played my last game when I was 49. Those rugby days were far better than todays rugby. My four sons currently play and even they say they wished they could have played that style.
@speeddemon9555
@speeddemon9555 Год назад
yes !! that was when men were men and we all knew what a woman was !!
@Moggy471
@Moggy471 Год назад
@@speeddemon9555 Yes! They wore numbers 9-15 😁
@jcoker423
@jcoker423 Год назад
@@speeddemon9555 Most of us still do !
@jackwilson8651
@jackwilson8651 Год назад
Jeez, you don’t rugby like this anymore; fast, fluid and full of action. Today’s rugby is not even worth watching
@JohnG11000
@JohnG11000 Год назад
At sixty four years old it's only the last few years that i got interested in rugby particularly the Internationals,looking at this old footage I have to agree, what a game that was.
@iseriver3982
@iseriver3982 Год назад
Look at the speed of the game.
@maxwellfan55
@maxwellfan55 Год назад
Yea, the stop/starts, evaluating decisions have dulled the flow and excitement.
@14nst3w4rt
@14nst3w4rt Год назад
I thought the video was sped up!! So fast.
@Vatsuggggg
@Vatsuggggg Год назад
That’s what caught my eye
@sergiodario58able
@sergiodario58able Год назад
Infact it's not normal, it's just a trick. The video is played at higher speed. If you go to settings and set the speed at .75% that's what the real speed of the game is.
@dv4662
@dv4662 Год назад
From an era when rugby WAS rugby. Hookers hooked, fly halves still danced, penalties were run, backs lined up deep and ball handling was so much better.
@supervillan326
@supervillan326 Год назад
I met Brian Moore in a bank two days after this match. His face was so bruised and swollen, it took me at least 5 secs to recognise him despite being only 2ft away. I can therefore attest to how brutal this match was, having personally witnessed the aftermath.
@neverindoubtjones4789
@neverindoubtjones4789 Год назад
France in full flow were a thing of beauty.
@ashgamble1168
@ashgamble1168 Год назад
I'm now 51 and still have ruck scars on my back and I wear them with pride good times
@speeddemon9555
@speeddemon9555 Год назад
you are now a member of the rucking good real mans club !!
@imeatingafunnyfinger
@imeatingafunnyfinger Год назад
Just look at that free flowing rugby with 30 guys giving it their all and two teams Laing fantastic rugby
@tmdillon1969
@tmdillon1969 Год назад
I started playing in 93. My college team had a clubhouse and a few imported rugby magazines. There was an advert with Brian Moore's face bearing his teeth with the caption "It's not the winning, it's the taking apart." I think it was a Nike ad. I tried to get the poster for years but never could. I find it interesting that all these years later with all those speed and strength programs test rugby isn't as flowing and fast as this game. You'd think the opposite would be true. However, I think some Pro 14 and Premiership rugby games have more style and flow.
@Exparcelman
@Exparcelman Год назад
Rugby as I remember it. I had forgotten what an exciting game it used to be.
@trilliarobinson7862
@trilliarobinson7862 Год назад
And not a TMO in sight .... so fast-flowing and exciting.
@Loosehead
@Loosehead Год назад
So you think the referee didn't miss anything?
@ldfreitas9437
@ldfreitas9437 Год назад
Yes, not stoppages to check a referee's decision. A ref had to make a decision quickly and stand by it.
@maxwellfan55
@maxwellfan55 Год назад
Yea, I'm an oldie who remembers this game (and all the others of same era) with massive fondness. What it didn't show were the scrums in this match which, believe me, were really fu..ing brutal!
@christiangerhardt2408
@christiangerhardt2408 Год назад
Oh rugby where have you gone violent and skilfull friend.
@olivierliburuzainak1594
@olivierliburuzainak1594 Год назад
WOW, the speed of the game !!! Very fast, very quick : very different than the actual rugby now.
@oliver69cork46
@oliver69cork46 Год назад
A wonderful game back then,the flowing passing game was a joy to watch unlike today's awful robotic bulldozer brutality. Today its weight,impact and far less exciting.
@patman142
@patman142 Год назад
gotta say some of the skills on show here are better than what a lot of the so-called professionals you see today have
@Philzoid
@Philzoid Год назад
Non sense
@maxwellfan55
@maxwellfan55 Год назад
Agree. The linking between forwards and backs especially slick.
@pacmantuition102
@pacmantuition102 Год назад
it may look that way because these guys on average are about 20-30kg's lighter than the current professionals, but the skill levels of current professionals are light years ahead of the amateur era.
@robertmiller2173
@robertmiller2173 Год назад
Wow such great players! I love France except when we play them at RuuuGGGGBBByyy!
@russe19642
@russe19642 Год назад
I do like watching the French when they're on
@montyf2165
@montyf2165 Год назад
The rule changes have ruined this great game. Professional clubs now struggling to survive. Surely it's time to bring back an amateur code with all the old rules. Rucking, mauling, proper scrums, no lifting at lineouts, 5 minute turnaround etc etc.
@paulmulryne8405
@paulmulryne8405 Год назад
I remember watching this when I was about 14 😂 great rugby.
@ronaldcarlton9957
@ronaldcarlton9957 Год назад
63 years old & loved my time playing in them ,Struggling now with Neck & Spine Problems ,But would do it All Again .
@bastienconstans3784
@bastienconstans3784 Год назад
Waw the way they are playing is more beautiful than today , there is huge talented player there
@owenloz
@owenloz Год назад
Bring this back….pure entertainment!!!
@Barristerboy
@Barristerboy Год назад
It was brutal but interesting to see the natural tackle height was so much lower than today.
@dojufitz
@dojufitz Год назад
So many Sports Worldwide have lost their MOJO since the 1990s. Looked like an awesome game.
@stuartmcnamara9610
@stuartmcnamara9610 Год назад
When rugby was rugby.
@gwynmaverickjames6098
@gwynmaverickjames6098 Год назад
Brutal tackling fluent passing on the run ,from both sides what teams they were
@bettyswunghole3310
@bettyswunghole3310 Год назад
From back in the day when England wasn't ashamed of its "toxic masculinity"...
@JSL2000
@JSL2000 Год назад
This is absolutely brilliant rugby. The running, rucking, teamwork etc. Loads of very hard tackling, but that's fine. Anyone who watched games like this fell in love with rugby. One thing though. Look at 3.00. Completely unacceptable and it was people like him who were a disgrace to the game. I'm Glad we're away from that era. Thugs hiding under the mantra of "hardmen" or "enforcers". Its a shame as loads of class players had their moments of brilliance overshadowed by brawls or skullduggery which of course were "part of the game" according to the blazers scoffing the free buffet. Even back then, I had a read through the rule book and couldn't find anything about allowing that. Was the amateur era brilliant to play and watch - absolutely. Do I look back on the behaviour of certain people with rose tinted glasses - certainly not.
@thomasprobert3290
@thomasprobert3290 Год назад
It's just not the same game anymore. This was like modern 7s but with 15 players
@scottabbott5393
@scottabbott5393 Год назад
If I'm right, this was the first time we had beaten the French 🇫🇷 in France for 22 years. It was at the Parc des Prince. If I'm right, I was there, don't remember too much. Apart from waking up in a shop doorway in the Pigalle area of Paris 40 feet from my hotel
@neilcarpenter2669
@neilcarpenter2669 Год назад
There's a lot to admire about the modern professional player and there are some great games, however I have to admit that I preferred the game in this era it was Raw and was decided by players rather than officials interpretation of the laws , bring back rucking already.
@maxcullen3427
@maxcullen3427 Год назад
Remember this amazing game both teams had passion just hope managed to have few beers together after game it rugby 🏉 thug on field gentlemen off 🏉 all those old names oh so many memories 🏉
@johnhealy6676
@johnhealy6676 Год назад
I was there What a brilliant game of rugby We had a great time The French took it in good heart Happy Days
@jimbryan74
@jimbryan74 Год назад
Winterbottom was an unbelievable player.
@britishpatriot812
@britishpatriot812 Год назад
I was at Headingley in the early eighties when he was progressing through First XV, Yorkshire, Northern Division, England, British Lions. I had the great honour to be barged out of the way by him many times at the back of the line out at training. In a different game against France he had an interesting tussle with Jean Pierre Rives. His brother Michael was a decent player too. I only saw them play together once, they played left and right as opposed to open and blind side. That may have been the same game against Liverpool when Kenny Higgins (Headingley, Yorkshire) caught Mike Slemen from behind for a try saving tap tackle.
@garybrowne6592
@garybrowne6592 Год назад
Agreed
@leplessis8179
@leplessis8179 Год назад
A hard man, indeed. The quiet destroyer.
@fsutcliffe816
@fsutcliffe816 Год назад
I’ve got to say that was like wait to the racking that used to go on, I reminder seating at work with 3 of my colleagues and all of us counter the stub marks on our body’s
@paulgrieve7031
@paulgrieve7031 Год назад
Flowing rugby pure skill
@sthembisovilakazi7764
@sthembisovilakazi7764 Год назад
Battle of Tucuman and SA vs Canada in the 1995 world cup those were brutal.
@neilherring
@neilherring Год назад
Modern international Rugby is full of stoppages, and pendantic rules, that nobody can understand.
@ldfreitas9437
@ldfreitas9437 Год назад
Try to referee? I still do. It's gotten harder to do every year because there's so many law changes every stinking year.
@martincraig9613
@martincraig9613 Год назад
Guscott wasn’t slow but Underwood was just flying there
@rh5466
@rh5466 Год назад
Two legends
@vol222nuit
@vol222nuit Год назад
Flying was also his job as a fighter pilot
@marcdaniels9079
@marcdaniels9079 Год назад
Guscott blew a try not passing left to Underwood.
@Loosehead
@Loosehead Год назад
Guscott was carrying the ball, preparing to pass (but didn't), so couldn't run as fast as Underwood who was flat out.
@thefobbie0034
@thefobbie0034 Год назад
When rugby was rugby!
@saundyuk
@saundyuk Год назад
A great match, but hardly the most violent. Duncan McRae repeatedly punching Ronan O'Gara in the eye whilst he was prone on the ground during a Lions match in Australia in 2001 was way worse than this.
@thefobbie0034
@thefobbie0034 Год назад
Peter Winterbottom is by far England's best 7 ever!
@ramius256
@ramius256 Год назад
Mission de Brian Moore dans ce match ? Faire dégoupiller ( provoquer) les français...mission accomplie 😄.
@decodeco4021
@decodeco4021 Год назад
Absolutely beautiful game......wow! And Mick the Munch, what a fkn player he was! 😳😉
@stevethebeard8829
@stevethebeard8829 Год назад
That last pass to Guscott was forward.
@philipleiser2090
@philipleiser2090 Год назад
Newish fan checking in from the States...I have no idea why my friends bother with the NFL after watching stuff like this. I like today's game well enough, but man, I can see why people talk about this being a Golden age. Speed, ball movement, hits, and yeah, some dirty play for spice. Hard to beat. Now I want to watch the whole match...
@cmobutts270
@cmobutts270 Год назад
Jst the passing of the ball through the French backline is poetry in motion.
@veronho1ness
@veronho1ness Год назад
How come back then the ball was recycled quicker than today's game. Even though these are just highlights just look what happens when players go into contact and the speed at which the ball is recycled!
@scarfo
@scarfo Год назад
Because the choke tackle wasn't a thing, forwards were a lot smaller, and you were allowed to clear players out by basically using your body as a missile. Teams also used chaos as a weapon whereas now it's much more about structure.
@14nst3w4rt
@14nst3w4rt Год назад
The rules for rucking were different. Once the tackler was on the ground no hands could be used (legally). The ball was rucked (scraped) back with the studs of your boots. Whatever was on the floor got rucked back... if it was the ball or another player! none of this jackelling to close off the ruck.
@sd3457
@sd3457 Год назад
Because back in those days, the team going forwards got the ball if it didn't come out. That meant the defensive focus had to be on stopping momentum, not trying to steal or kill the ball. For my money, getting rid of the "team going forward" law was the single worst change in the history of the game.
@thefobbie0034
@thefobbie0034 Год назад
Because of rucking!
@francisodonoghue672
@francisodonoghue672 Год назад
Yeah..you had to drop the ball as soon as you hit the ground. Nowadays you hold onto it until someone takes it off you
@gavintownsend4372
@gavintownsend4372 Год назад
Being English happy to say " I was there" but in the French supporters end. A mixture of joy and terror.
@bobby5161
@bobby5161 Год назад
0:33 Lascubé starting things off nicely
@tommyhassan3545
@tommyhassan3545 Год назад
I would put winterbottom up there with the best flankers of all time
@emosijougavule2561
@emosijougavule2561 Год назад
Rugby at its prime age.
@horrortackleharry
@horrortackleharry Год назад
This game was so violent, it featured an actual murderer.
@leplessis8179
@leplessis8179 Год назад
With the 'Halifax Hooligan' on our side, we always came out on top. Nice one, Brian.
@philbo2152
@philbo2152 Год назад
That’s the result of your forwards having alcohol in their systems after going on the p!ss the night before, then denying your backs nicotine for 80 minutes. 🍺 🚬
@Thembisile13
@Thembisile13 Год назад
I think battle of Nantes just entered the chat room
@stephenwalters8006
@stephenwalters8006 Год назад
Spot on
@redneckReno
@redneckReno Год назад
I know it's highlights but....the game looks so much more Helter Skelter back then
@bosvarkd8403
@bosvarkd8403 Год назад
Great game to watch.. but take a look at the sa v Ireland game in 98.. every ruck turned into a mass brawl and it went on all game
@deanloveridge2534
@deanloveridge2534 Год назад
Looks like it’s in fast forward in parts.
@gasparwimb3964
@gasparwimb3964 Год назад
Beautiful chaos
@Trajan2401
@Trajan2401 Год назад
Ahhh the good old days before they started bringing in all these unnecessary and stupid rules that just slow the game down and make it a stop start affair not to mention they're turning rugby into tiddlywinks or soccer with all the stupid cards they're handing out Bill the Fossil Beaumont and his old boys club need to go before they ruin rugby even more
@thinkdabub
@thinkdabub Год назад
Holy fuck! .25 speed from 3:07. Number 3, Philippe Gimbert for France. Absolutely destroys the English player attempting to catch the ball. Impact at 3:09.
@rugbysphere8206
@rugbysphere8206 Год назад
Un Crunch vraiment engagé! Avec Tordo en #6, au four et au moulin!
@terranceparsons5185
@terranceparsons5185 Год назад
Brian Moore. Might be short but I wouldn't want to annoy him!
@phil.davies6726
@phil.davies6726 Год назад
Did they speed this up!
@mmmmmmmmmm.m.
@mmmmmmmmmm.m. Год назад
Why does it look so fast pace lol 😅
@marcdaniels9079
@marcdaniels9079 Год назад
France prop kicks Carling in the head off the ball before being sent off but apart from that just bloody great fast free flowing rugby on show.
@mrarednu9034
@mrarednu9034 Год назад
Bayfield with the boot to the face ?
@leeturton9254
@leeturton9254 Год назад
The game was epic back then epic!!! I say👊
@fireman3857
@fireman3857 Год назад
Nope South Africa vs Argentina in the late 70s if I remember correctly. The games tarted with a fight and ended in the entire stadium attacking the South African team
@edwardtandy9613
@edwardtandy9613 Год назад
#battleofbrieve anybody??
@JohnSmith-rk6jy
@JohnSmith-rk6jy Год назад
Hey? One thing that puzzles me? I grew up in NZ in the 80s playing rugby as a kid. Every single damn kid in town played rugby, whether you were a regular sport Billy or an absolute unco geek. There was a soccer team. But those guys were just weird. Also half of them played rugby aswell. What I'm getting at is, Why is soccer so popular and the mainstream sport in the UK? I mean, rugby is clearly more fun, it's physical for starters, you get to physically smash your mates or some random kid from another town or school and it's all perfectly legal. Why in the world would you choose Not to play this awesome fun and glorious game and instead play a game that the good Lord clearly invented purely as a womens only participation game? Why is Rugby or Rugby League Not the dominant sport in the UK?
@ronaldcarlton9957
@ronaldcarlton9957 Год назад
Played my Last forty Minutes at 60 years old in a Charity game ,Loved it but could walk properly for 2 days .
@simontaylor2525
@simontaylor2525 Год назад
Ball seems to have Fairy Liquid on it.
@johnlamb487
@johnlamb487 Год назад
Rugby was a better sport IMO before lifting in line-outs was allowed, when rucks were fully contested, and scrumhalfs could not feed the hooker. I do like the yellow card and the rules designed to protect against reckless contact and head injuries.
@eugeniocallegaro6618
@eugeniocallegaro6618 Год назад
stupendo
@siorac69
@siorac69 Год назад
Please serve my roastbeef bloody rare !!🥩😄
@scottmallory298
@scottmallory298 Год назад
Marc Cecillon was the player who murdered his wife if I'm not mistaken
@DidierDidier-kc4nm
@DidierDidier-kc4nm Год назад
No you re right ,and an asshole Guy, even before his murder
@lindenmcdonald9309
@lindenmcdonald9309 Год назад
Correct.
@maureenthomas9758
@maureenthomas9758 Год назад
Shot her in a room full of people. He only did 6 to 7 years. I thought british justice was lenient
@keithmerrick
@keithmerrick Год назад
Shame that the proportions are all wrong. Everyone is as wide as they are tall and everything is at 100mph. I suppose there must be a technical reason why it's not possible to have the correct proportions but it's still a shame.
@Grinz285
@Grinz285 Год назад
Just an everyday match of AFL really except those guys run half marathons and can be hit from anywhere not just infront in like this sport
@dennisthemenace57
@dennisthemenace57 Год назад
By the end of the 90's the game had changed so much for the worse that I stopped watching and no longer can name a single Wallaby
@terenceayer337
@terenceayer337 Год назад
C'mon!! This was far more civilised than today's American Boxing,....😂😂
@DrugsBunny973
@DrugsBunny973 Год назад
Cecillion spent 15 yrs in jail for killing his wife....Magnum 357 in plain forhead
@tristanpatterson3843
@tristanpatterson3843 Год назад
Pfffft, have a look at Samoa V New Zealand same era. 80 minutes of GBH.
@owenfarmer4197
@owenfarmer4197 Год назад
How did France finish that with so many players. Great spectacle and we accepted it as normal on every pitch from colts locally to internationals. Did our generation have anger issues?
@BAPT-SKIN-76
@BAPT-SKIN-76 Год назад
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