@@originalscottfree Class 3 dealer; The ability to sell Machine Guns, Short-barreled Shotguns, Short-barreled Rifles, and Silencers or Suppressors. Why would he need a SOT 2 for the manufacture of an NFA item? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
My former service rifle as a riot police officer here in France under the name mousqueton AMD 556. We had both fixed and folding stocks. Folding stocks were used mainly in Corsica Made by Ruger and imported in France. Were marked 5,56 and not .223 Was enjoyable to shoot but the fire selector was quite sensitive and prone to go on rafale at its own will. It has been replaced by the HKG36 kp2 heavier but safer to use.
Just imagine if you had an ACTUAL rifle - like a Patriot Arsenal 14inch M4 cut AR platform. It would have weighed half an AMD, been 2x as accurate (under 1 MOA) and had the ability to accept all modern attachments including 30 and 40mm launcher devices for beanie rounds, rubber ring rounds or tear gas launcher. I feel bad for cops in the EU who go to work with shit firearms or total lack thereof.
@@armyvet7070 : AMD was in service since end of the 70's early 80's, it was a modern platform for the time. Problem is that they should have been replaced in the early 2k but the French government had no interest in it and they waited until the terrorist attacks of 2015 to modernise our weaponry. Hk g36 C and K was the most common platform in French police intervention group so they went on a Hk G36 platform too for the rest of police . I own an ar15 ( a customised Mp15) and I love shooting it but G36 as a platform used by many different policemen is safier as being piston operated it needs less care and the fact that in can be loaded with the safety on is a plus . In France we never use a combo of letal and non letal on the same platform because it can cause mistake. We have our 40x46 mm( one shot B&T) for kinetic impact only and 40mm multi grenade launcher for teargas and smocks grenade only. For blast grenade it is a 56mm grenade launcher ( They are currently phased out and we regret them as they are much more efficient than our 40 mm MGL) or hand grenades.
I was a Special Agent with DSS and in the 80’s was one of the first to be assigned to a CAT Counter Assault Team, we were issued the AC 556, loved that gun for the time. Very good for use in a motorcade and rapid deployment.
@@raympndlandareastapkp7616 a Bureau within the US Department of State, Bureau of Diplomatic Security, the Law Enforcement side is the Diplomatic Security Service, DSS. DSS is charged with protecting all State Department assets, domestic and overseas, including personnel. Agents protect the Secretary of State, all Embassies overseas and foreign embassies in the U.S., visiting foreign dignitaries, all diplomats assigned overseas. They also investigate criminal violations of passport and visa fraud, counterterrorism investigations and counter espionage. The oversee and direct the Marine Security Detachments at the US embassies.
An AC-556 was used in the famous HK employee story where he and his wife were being chased by bikers outside DC. He opened up on them in burst mode with a T&E AC 556 he was testing.
I remember that. I was working in a gun store at the time and went to the Soldier of Fortune Convention and Expo that September. I was talking to the H&K rep. He relayed the reaction when the H&K president was told one of his employees used a full auto gun to grease some baddies, “Why didn’t he use an MP5?” Lol. True story.
I carried one of those for a couple of years as CO of our Department's SWAT team. Always loved it. It was my go-to weapon for going through the door on dynamic entries.
I remember when this was first imported to the UK in 1979. It was offered to our police and I got a chance to try one at Bisley. Eventually it was only adopted in Northern ireland because the mainland cops preferred the H&K MP5. Handy bit of kit, not a patch on the HK 93 I owned back then but way better value for money (as in a lot cheaper).
I love the mini 14. I’ve owned several. They’ve all been at least 2 inch guns and dead reliable. I’d really like to have that model! The only thing I don’t like about them is they throw empty brass into the next county. A lot of people rag on the safety but I find it perfectly natural to use. Another great video sir.
You can put a smaller gas port in. Calms it down considerably. Stock is .085 I believe. I went down to a .045. Drops the brass right beside me. Got 4 different size ports for 20 bucks.
@@davidmiller8924 David, sounds great. I’ve alway put an extra power recoil spring with limited results. Putting that in though to reassemble after cleaning is a bitch. Thanks for the advice sir.
@@maxmccain8950 experiment with it. Smaller port/bushing keeps the bolt from slamming also. If you go too small it won't cycle reliably. I tried a .035 and while it dropped the brass nicely it didn't always pick up the next round. Maybe variations depending on the ammo you use also. If you want to spend more money someone makes an adjustable gas block. Have fun!
Never seen one of those either.. .THAT WAS REALLY COOL.. good looking unit too. Thank you and to the range who set all this up to show case this. Really cool.
@@lrlapua8035 My new Tactical (Model 5888) will approach that (3-shot group @ .875" w/two in one figure-8 hole) but ONLY with Hornady Superformance Match 5.56 75 gr. BTHP, and even then only AFTER attaching a heavy, machined steel "megaphone" (an old Cobray part, actually) to the muzzle : ) Lowered the POI, but tightened the groups with ALL ammo invariably. After having gone back and forth with/without the megaphone at least 20 times using every type of ammo I had, it became "permanent". Still, most "generic" .223/5.56 does in between 2" - 3" groups. P.S., the factory trigger was the WORST (gritty) I've ever felt, but I spent a little time on THAT, as well. Oh, AND added a trigger shoe : )
As soon as I saw the picture for this video, I instantly heard "Baa bbaaa, Ba Baba baAAA" My first rifle was the mini 14, and I put a folding stock on it. (Age 18) Then I bought a 1911.(21) Then I purchased a 1981 CJ-5. (25) I didn't realize it, but the A - Team was my life goal. I probably need some sort of Gen X therapy.
Steer clear of the mini-30. Cost way too much and they have feeding issues and FTF. Got so fed up with it's lack of reliability. I sold mine and put that money towards something else.
@@Knight_Raider_the mini 30 is a great rifle. The problem folks don’t know about is that you can’t run steel ammo (aka berdan primers) in them. At least, not with the stock firing pin. The berdan primer is too hard and you’ll get short strikes resulting in frequent failure to fire events. You MUST run brass only. So, the moral of this story is: do not use any Russian mil surp ammo with berdan primers.
Love my 30...now. do not expect it to be a lead slinger w/out time, energy, and low cost upgrades. I've changed the firing pin and almost every spring in the rifle, and honed alot of parts in the trigger group. It was frustrating, but now she eats everything I feed h3r.
The mini thirty is rock solid with western brass case ammo and with a few modifications will run eastern steel case too. I own one so I’m speaking from experience, not just internet rumors. It’s also a great hunting rifle with the heavier 7.62x39 cartridge.
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaand this how real professional uses a gun. nothing flashy,nowhere a ton of a brass,just a quick and effective explanation. this is well done pro.
You all seem to like the mini. I used one in my career, and they had a fatal flaw after being cleaned and disassembled 20 or 30 times. The disassembly process involves flexing the trigger guard, after a while the guard would not spring back all the way and the entire trigger housing would drop out during firing. I saw this happen many times, gratefully only during qualification. These rifles were also hit and miss on accuracy, around three inches average, although I fired one that shot groups about an inch. I was assigned to ensure sight alignment and function of the rifles as my experience in gunsmithing and building firearms was known, none of the rifles were scoped. You could bend the trigger guard out again and it would stop ejecting the trigger mechanism, but hardly a good practice. Also, our contract with Ruger specified our department was not allowed to repair any of the weapons, our contract with S&W was the same. This was in the early eighties and 90's and they were specified as a government model. I also ran a police supply and subcontracted and built ar15 counter sniper weapons. For the same price the AR's shot consistent sub-MOA with Black Hills 52 grain BTHP match and were much easier and cheaper to maintain. I will admit that I saw literally 10's of thousands of rounds fired through the mini's and never saw one malfunction, other than the trigger housing issue. As long as you checked and maintained the trigger housing situation, The accuracy and reliability made them very capable at CQB.
Back in the 70s I had a friend who actually owned 2 of these. One broke (forgot how), and I was with him when he called Ruger about repairing it. The person at Ruger denied they had ever made anything select fire. My friend told them "Well, I have 2 of them sitting in front of me, would you like the serial numbers?" They hung up on him.
When Ruger discontinued them, they refused to repair them or offer repair parts after 2009. Oh, BTW, the "high capacity" magazine ban originated with Bill Ruger himself, though he wanted the limit to be 15-rounds: the largest capacity of his company's pistol magazines at that time. He had restricted the sale of his Mini-14 20- and 30-round magazines to "Military and Law Enforcement Only".
First I can't imagine anything with the Eagle on it breaking. I have used and abused all of my weapons from time to time and Rugers are about the only ones that haven't had a problem. If he didn't have a class 3 license and no number to give them, they did that out of courtesy as not to have to call the Feds and report it.
@@johnjohnsn7633Don't know where you heard that but it's a load of garbage. It was a Bill that started it but his last name wasn't Ruger. Think it started with a C.
@@mitchellthomas8432 : "Heard it"? I *lived* it! No one in Congress had even mentioned "high capacity magazines" before Ruger began pushing his "only military and police need..." agenda. His company policy was to not to sell his 20- and 30-round Mini-14 GB-20 and AC-556 magazines to "civilians". At this same time, 1989, Ruger was selling his P-85 9mm pistol, which came with a 15-round capacity magazine, hence his proposed 15-round limit. Gun controllers jumped on this idea, but instead of Ruger's proposed 15-round limit, instead they used his own pre-existing, self-imposed limit of 10-rounds ... Ruger .22LR pistol and 10/22 Carbine ... and have run with it ever since. [See "When a Gun Maker Proposed Gun Control" by Danny Hakim, New York Times, 9 February 2018]. Were you even aware that his ubiquitous .22LR pistol originated as a hand-held, manually-driven 1/4"-capacity drill?🤔
@@mitchellthomas8432 No it was definitely Bill Ruger. He didn't want competition for his products, and lobbied hard to have foreign imports banned. And it is true Blowie Bill signed the ban into law. This is the main reason I no longer buy anything Ruger. Same thing is happening now with suppressors. Established manufacturers don't want 'home-made' suppressors to be legal, because they will lose billions. Follow the money.
I'm a 69 year old American man; a Natuve of Iowa. I'm not a gun guy. Inknow little about them. I do appreciate engineering, design, and metalurgy. Interesting gun you showed. I learned a lot and was impressed with this weapon. Thank you.
It's hard to find good comparisons. My father repaired many of these. What a great piece of engineering. I was only allowed to fire one of them, but it was just as fun as any other arm I have ever fired. Haven't seen on in years. Thanks for the video. Lots of great memories of my dad. Thanks so much.
My father worked in Abu Dhabi and I went there , with my parents , in 1965 as a kid . Today you will have a completely different experience , but then there were very few streets and we lived in a four level block of flats that were the highest building there occupied by non royals , the minarets or the big water tank . The local suek , open , cloth roofed , market was close by and was nearly a daily visit for us . Frequently we would see people carrying rifles , usually Enfield 303s , ammo bandoliers across their chests and curved daggers at their waists . Sometimes you would see guys with enormous hooded birds of prey on their arms . Everyone , more or less , apart from non-locals , wore the arabian 'dress' or thawb and head gear . A more respectful , happy to see you and chat , people you could not expect to meet ; but on first sight as young kid they looked pretty frightening ! Lol . I met and shook hands with Sheik Zayed , the ruler of Abu Dhabi and founder president of the UAE , twice . With my mother and her friends , I even visited one of the royal harems ( as a youngster , under 12 , this was ok ) . Happy days . A point not usually known ... Sheik Zayed granted land and paid for a Catholic church to be built in Abu Dhabi . Possibly he even paid for the priest to be there ; Father Barnabas . And yes , it was as hot as Death Valley , I have visited there from the UK in more recent times !
If you collect rifles and grew up watching the A-Team, the Mini 14 with the Samson ATM stock is a MUST have. They also sell an aftermarket heat guard to replace that fisher price one. .I even topped it off and bought its bigger brother, the M1A Socom to go with it.
The platform suffered from one major problem. It was horribly inaccurate. Every model of "Mini-14" that I tested performed poorly in accuracy tests. It was rare to keep 10 rounds in a 4" target at 100 yds. The rifles functioned well and were not subject to malfunctions, but we had a 20% success rate at hitting the "A" zone on a standard IPSC target at 200 yds off the bench. Nice rifles, went bang consistently, but if hitting what you were aiming at was important, this was not the weapon of choice.
I have one of the 1st 1000 mini-14 every made. As the barrel heated the point of impact shifted drastical upward. That 12 inch barrel might be more accurate than the longer 18 inch barrel. I have not touched mine in years and the AR and AK are more practical weapons. The new ones are retailing at more than a $1K. Mine never jammed.
I have a brand new mini14 stainless model. It had about a 7 - 8 lb. trigger but could group 2" at 100 yards from bench. Got a M Carbo sear spring (about $13) and now it has a about a 4 lb. pull. I haven't had a chance to shoot it since new trigger. Really expensive rifle compared to an M 4! No problems with it except getting used to handling magazines.@@loquat44-40
@@tyroilsmoochiewallace9852 That is untrue. The accuracy was the major issue for a civilian weapon. In full automatic form it was used widely as an issue weapon by the police and others. And still used to this day. Hardly garbage. 2015 French contact National rifleman The Mousqueton A.M.D.- France's Mini-14 by Martin K.A. Morgan posted on January 9, 201 The Mousqueton A.M.D. was used by several governmental agencies within the French Interior Ministry: the Police Aux Frontières ("P.A.F."-Border Police), the Police Nationale Compagnies Républicaines de Sécurité (or "C.R.S."-Riot Control Brigade) and even the Army's Groupe d'Intervention de la Gendarmerie Nationale ("GIGN") special operations unit. These export Mini-14s served through 30 years of often-troubled French domestic history, and only began to be replaced by the Heckler & Koch G36 rifle in 2008. Today, the collecting public in France can own the Mousqueton A.M.D., but only as an Arme Neutralisée-or deactivated weapon.
Ah... the A-Team... the most dangerous TV show for kids ever created. Each episode tens of thousands of rounds were fired... people fired at each other like crazy, and no one ever fucking died. Worst case, they overturned with their car... got out... and shook their heads like cartoon characters. Surprised the production company didn't add blue cartoon birds tweeting around their heads, to emphasize the effect.
thank you for making a concise gun video, most videos nowadays covering the topic of firearms are 30 minutes for literally no reason when the same information could have been summed up in 10 or less 👍
Yep. I bought the same model shown in this video about 15 years ago and paid $6500.00. It was nearly new in the original box with factory manual, magazine, and sling. Now I'm seeing those for sale at $15,000+. Around the same time, I bought a near-new Colt 614 select fire rifle for $10,500, no box or papers, though. In the recent past I have seen several 614's actually sell for $30,000.00+ on Gunbroker. There is now way I'd be able to afford these guns and current prices.
I love it!! Something about that look ....like the Mini14 with the folding stocks is just really cool and functional. Seeing that fire on full auto was cool
@@kentuckybowl-o-sticks damn I just saw the Ruger 556 K side folder, underfolders and 15k to 18k is steep. I'm not gonna lie.....if I had that kinda cash I'd scoop one up in a heartbeat
@@ThrobbingChomboni INSANE, but yeah... I hit the lottery, I'll be in the market : ) But this bullshit where "full auto is illegal, unless you're rich" is a sick joke. Those rifles should be readily available, NEW PRODUCTION, for about $100 more than a semi auto... you know, what with our "uninfringeable" rights under the Second Amendment and all. Closest I ever came to buying a Class III was in the early '90s... a Steyer AUG for about $2500. Couldn't get local law enforcement to sign the paperwork without hiring an attorney (this was in Miami), so I gave up. Kicking myself in the ASS now : )
I've always wanted one of those. Way back I saw one in a magazine article. Went out and bought my first of two Mini 14s. First was blue. Then I had to have the stainless. Accept for early accuracy issues, I like the Mini 14 better than the AR 15. Now I would go for the Mini 30. I like the heavier bullets. Thanks for the flashback!
I DO prefer the Mini over the AR, and the new ones... if mine is any example (Model 5888 Tactical)... are better on the accuracy front (compared to OLD Minis, that is). I've done a .875" 3-shot group w/two in one figure-8 hole with its favorite ammo... and that IMMEDIATELY after (i.e., first group shot) a full tear-down and reassembly : ) Oh, and, my heavy muzzle device helps. Old Cobray megaphone. Probably sounds like a .50 cal. downrange, but no one will go down there to confirm : )
actually the only mini14 not rated for 556 is the target model. you can shoot 556 in the other models even though they say 223 . that is the word straight from rugar
There is one for sale on auction right now for a low low cost of 11,500$ Hey thanks for going through the rifle it’s very cool I love Ruger it’s like a 10/22 that shoots .223, I’m looking for one in semi because I don’t have the licensing or money for it. Beautiful just beautiful ❤
Yeah I owned a transferable one, The KAC556F was the one I chose. I shot it very little. The pencil barrel got super hot super quick. Also read where at one point the receivers were known to crack on the stainless model. Being that I paid 10K for mine back in 2012, I decided to sale mine and move on from that platform. I was always worried about putting mileage on it because parts kits have dried up and if you shoot the barrel out, Good luck on finding an EXACT OEM replacement. Also, They were terrible to control in FA, That stock design just danced around on your shoulder. But nevertheless, They were aesthetically pleasing and a kewl rifle .I'd have to be offered a smoking deal to consider buying another one.
A good rifle but the KING of battle is the M-14 .308 when i got to pleiku ,Vietnam was handed a Matel (toy) in 5.56mm , nothing but a .22 cal. whitch fired faster. B Co. 4th div.
Kinda looks like a spaz 12 prototype w the way the wood is shaped and the stock kinda have the shape of one at least I wouldn’t think it was a machine gun at first maybe a weird shotgun or infantry rifle from some 3rd world country
Regardless I too think it’s neat but would probably prefer something a tad more accurate at long range anyways I don’t think most people wanna have a point blank gun fight if they don’t have too lmao
Okay, let's make one thing straight, .223 and 5.56mm bullets are identical and are the exact same dimensions. The only difference between the two is that the 5.56mm x 45mm standard NATO casing is thicker and has slightly higher chamber pressures than the .223. Having said that, this Rifle was likely manufactured with more meat around the chamber because it was going to be used as a military rifle and likely not using the .223 Remington cartridge, because it is a sporting round, not a military round. So it is highly likely that this rifle is capable of firing either round. I think I would LOVE to have this Rifle, I love anything from Sturm Ruger!!! Thanks for sharing!
Honestly. Ruger is wise, and they listen. It would be easy for them to make it. Many people have been asking for the AC556. Same design with minor adjustments. This is a truly American rifle.
The mini 14 is one of the few 5.56 box magazine fed rifles that's not banned in Massachusetts, unfortunately adding the folding stock would then make it banned🫤
Wow my best friend had one - and yeah full auto and I shot it and loud as fok also feel the blast from the blast. .. I think he has it still. He’s a collector ! 👍👍
Brother your a bad ass. Love your videos. Thank you for taking the time to share so much with us. It's a true blessing. BTW How's the mechanism work to just let 3 rounds and full. I know how it works from semi-auto to full-auto. Just can't get my head around the 3 round deal. Thanks brother. God Bless.
It has a ratcheting extension on the seer that gets extended when the lever is in the correct position. It works as an auto seer that resets after it fires three times. In the full auto position, it is locked in place and only the first seer runs as an auto seer. In semi the whole mechanism flips up to expose a semi auto trigger reset.
That's a nice weapon, but one huge problem that I can see especially in desert conditions, is no dust cover. I know from experience that all kinds of crap is going to fall in there.
Sand is going to get in EVERYTHING in desert conditions. Ask anyone in the military. The thing is, that open bolt will blow a lot of the crap out when the gun cycles.
@alanrogs3990 long story, but they are basically the same. 556 has bit higher pressure. There really has never been a problem shooting 556 in a 223 gun. Lots of people will argue this though.
@@brianhoxworth3881there are older rugers that are specifically.223 chambered and for whatever reason explicitly say not to use 5.56. they are accurized with different gas operating components.
At one point, Ruger began developing versions of the Mini-14 that were to be chambered in .308 Win. and .243 Win. Unfortunately, mechanical and production issues kept the rifles from ever being produced. A MINI-.30 is a 7.62x39 Russian cartridge and causes a lot of confusion with .308.
@@bonjovi2757 they actually made a few. I’ve seen one on sale once but the price was out of my range at the time. I realize they would likely be super inaccurate I think that was the issue with the 308s. As bad as the originals were in 223 in 308 they were worse. Still be neat to own one of the few there were. I didn’t realize they were going to make them in 243 Also.
@warrenharrison9490 No ... mini30 was put in full production and is still produced today and fires the shorter Russian 308 called 7.62×39 same as used on the AK and SKS. He is talking about the longer round .308 or 7.62 Nato same as used in the M14/M1A that carries a bigger punch.
Samson makes the AT-M stock that replicates this. Make them for mini14 and 10/22. Make a stainless and blued version. I just completed an sbr build on a stainless mini14 and love it. Stock swaps in like 20 seconds and the anti gunners are less likely to ban them in OG form.
The stock mini 14 is not banned in Massachusetts, but changing the stock to pistol/folder then makes it a scary assault weapon and banned unless the frame receiver was made before 1994. MA laws are stupid.
77gn ball? The early ones of these had 1:12" twist barrels for M193 ball. Probably does not matter for "up-close and personal" work. Out past 50 metres, those 77 grain bullets may start to keyhole, if the twist-rate is not fast enough to stabilize the longer bullets, especially at the reduced velocities reached via the short barrel. Mister Greenhill will definitely enter the conversation. If you are running 1:7" to 1:9" twist; carry on! Nice piece of equipment.
@@azdesertprepper9803 Well that sucked from a guy who even designed machine guns. Now we have to deal with a government trying to regulate mag size, gun types and ammo sales.
The AC-556 certainly has heaps of 'cool', but the reality is that the AR series outperforms this in every metric you care to look at, that's why Ruger discontinued this model. I own a standard Mini-14 because I live in the gun unfriendly state of New Jersey. To anti-gun people the AR looks scary while the Mini is Fudd so they don't even notice. That's the real reason to own a Mini these days, it flies under the radar. If you want a gun that doesn't attract attention but gets the job done, a Mini is what you want.
I've had4 monk's and reconfigured 3 into very similar style-- no full auto, 1 folding and1 collapsible stock -----like the10-22, there's infinite aftermarket mods for mini-14. AND they fire BOTH 223 and NATO 5.56
Loved this video! Enjoyed every second of it even tho I'm not biggest fan of mini 14. I wouldnt mind owning one or run it strictly for super close like under 50 yards defensive use. Cause it has to be minute of partial exposed head. Full auto part was the best part. Did us Americans proud handling that Full auto!
I had the opportunity to purchase a fully transferrable ACC-556 back in the 1980s and turned it down as I already had a Colt M16A1. Something I regret to this day. I do have a stainless Mini-14 with folding stock exactly like that only with the longer barrel.
