Ruger LC Carbine 10mm VS 1911 Velocity Testing 8 Different Loadings 

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Worthless content. A single shot for velocity does virtually NOTHING to depict the real velocity of a particular load. What is needed is an average velocity from at least five shots. The videographer does not understand the basics of velocity testing, too bad he has zero cred. A waste of my time. Learn statistical testing dude. You want to produce good content but you lack basic knowledge, too bad.

Yeah, xtps aren’t really made for high velocity. The petals will probably break off in gel.

My guess is it will shoot it just fine, cycling is a whole different story.

That's why we need a test. My buddy's Glock 20 runs 40 S&W perfectly from all magazines he has tried. ​@@TheRange7

Mine is 8.5"

You bet! Thank you so much! And thanks for watching!!!!👍👍👍👊👊👊🦃

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10” +brace

13.7" and 14.5" rifles are very common now, if you pin and weld on the muzzle device it's part of the barrel. As well braced pistols are legal, are very viable, and can be shouldered.

@@bower31probably gonna be hard to find a muzzle device long enough to pin on a 13.9 with 10mm/45acp threads. Not to mention finding something that also supports suppressor mounting.

@caleb1379 Maybe, it's a big market. If you want it bad enough there's a machine shop out there willing to do it

Same here.

@@JonFox-t5x The velocity difference is not going to be significantly different due to the distance parameter... not at this velocity regime and with these bc's and l/ d ratios even though they are much lower than the higher l/d ratio's and sectional densities encountered with most rifle projectiles. I know that it is counter-intuitive given the much lower bc's and sectional densities of the pistol bullets, but the velocity fall off of handgun bullets is less than you would expect and when using high ballistic coefficient bullets at the lower velocity levels encountered with handgun rounds the velocity retention is pretty amazing even though the bullet drop can be a bit of a challenge! The velocity differences shown are more a function of the chronograph reading differences... which is quite interesting!

@@cheryltysver4819 10-30 FPS difference between chronographs is common but the distance does make a difference too.

Check the Underwood loadings and the Hodgdon annual manuals. They will show the velocities attainable via the different burn rate propellants, along with the pressures generated. Compare the velocities achieved to the pressures. Often you will find powders that give maximum velocities at considerably lower maximum average pressures! This is the first U-tube video that I ended up taking notes from and you picked the two best chronographs (the Oehler could also be included here though a bit more complicated) for the comparison! Outstanding job! P.S.: The comparison between the Garmin and Caldwell was especially useful in that I have not tried the Garmin yet and was considering getting one. Some of the tests that I have done in the past included loads that ran well over 5,000 feet per second... and the Caldwell and Oehler were the only chronographs that would reliably read bullet speeds at this level. The Oehler 35P was able to read velocities up to and beyond the point of hyper-velocity gouging... which can start in the low to mid 6,000 fps range. The highest that the Oehler read was 6,980 fps with a 220gr. monolithic L/D 1 projectile. Hyper-velocity gouging occurred during that shot and the barrel was retired! The barrel length was 45"! Corrected to muzzle velocity the projectile speed was ~ 7,100 fps...

@@cheryltysver4819 😱😱😱 that is screaming fast.....

Given the 10.5” 5.56 fad going on or shorter! Smh. It’s probably equal to ft lbs wise, with anything less than 62gr stuff.

@@gavincline209 I've seen some of the Liberty gel tests on a few calibers show it tending to dispense almost all of its energy in the first ~12in or so of gel. The majority of the 223/556 loads are probably going to penetrate better, but the Liberty 10mm might be better for urban/apt building setups where over-penetration might be a serious concern? I think it might make for some very interesting comparisons and testing.

Need 115 grain Underwood, also If you bullet makers would make a 101/115 grain 45 ACP+p loaded to mild "super" specs shaped with a 357 sig size flat tip fmj id appreciate it. Sorry but the 45 has been made wrong for a long time. And it doesn't need to be a hollow point. Which have literally been pointless... The solid copper light weight rounds are much more effective and you not only have the ability to carry more ammo, the weapons last longer, have less recoil, and have far less reliability issues I.e. heavy hard cast issues with some calibers. Look at Underwood 130 grain, and Grind Hard 111 grain. You really don't need the special defender tip with 45, but it does help. I just can't believe the guns and ammo community is still way behind. A 101 grain fmj with a small flat tip would be amazing for so many reasons in 45 auto. It would also be making mid 44 magnum power out of a carbine like this. Baruk Hashem

OKAYYYY English Please. 😅

Ballistics by the inch is not theoretical. Velocity loss due to faster twist is probably not measurable, and springs don’t help the bolt stay locked on direct blowback guns.

And in addition to the criticisms above, the SLOWER projectile is going, the LESS energy it has, and the SLOWER a projectile is going, the more SLOWLY it bleeds velocity and energy. So you're utterly wrong about that, too. Maybe stick with "fisics."

@shannonbarattini5772 In other words, gotta shoot it to see 👀 what the bullets gonna do.

@@michaelchilds-qn3bl I don’t think you know what theoretical means. The recoil spring on direct blowback does nothing to keep the bolt closed longer. If you want to keep the bolt closed longer you add mass to the bolt/buffer. The recoil spring is only there to cycle the bolt back into battery. That’s a big misconception. I don’t even know why you bring up twist rate as it doesn’t even practically matter. It’s a single digit kind of effect on velocity that you would struggle to identify just due the variation of each round and precision of the Chronograph. 10mm guns are usually 1:10” or 1:16”, right? This one is using the slower twist to satisfy your need for 5 more ft/s.

Not great. There's an increase but its nothing to get excited about

357 and 41 magnum get 500 fps more velocity from a carbine because they use slower burning powders. There are no 10mm factory loadings with slower burning powders. Maybe he'll handload some to see the improvement in velocity in a longer barrel?

@davidwiechecki9205 I loaded both for years but never got to chrono my .357 lever action. Usually used H-110, AA no. 9 and 2400 for heavier loads. Loved Blue Dot but they removed it from .41 and larger loadings in the early 2000s.

@Bob.W. I have a 4 3/4 inch revolver and a 73 Winchester rifle in 45 Colt. Most types of ammunition I have tried deliver about 150fps more out of the rifle. The 200 grain Barnes loading runs about 200fps faster out of the rifle.

I ran some tests about 30 years ago between a Ruger Blackhawk 6 1/2" and a 94 Trapper 16" 45 colt. Ruger only loads with 296 powder picked up around 250 fps with the longer barrel

That smith ten might be my next. The stribog ten is on my mind a bit, and I think smith ought to mimic that design in their style. If we judge by the success of these others it would absolutely succeed and be an american product.

SGM. ~$18 last I checked. Yes. I have 7 of them