Ruger PCC vs S&W Response Carbine

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Several subscribers asked us to compare the Ruger PCC to the new S&W Response carbine. Both carbines shoot the ubiquitous 9mm round and utilize popular pistol magazines associated with the brand specific handguns of their respective manufacturer and a conversion kit to use Glock magazines.
Pistol Caliber Carbines (PCCs), allow the operator to use the same ammunition and magazines that are used in their semi-automatic pistol. Since the 9mm has minimal felt recoil, PCCs are enjoyable to shoot, especially for newer shooters. Economically the 9mm cartridge offers advantages over centerfire calibers which tend to be more expensive to shoot. Finally many three gun competitions allow users to compete with PCCs.
In our testing the S&W Response and the Ruger PCC both performed will. Providing a light weight, accuracy, and reliability. We got good gtoups at 25 and 50 yards, and we're able to consistently knockdown steel silhouettes at 100 yards.
The Ruger and the S&W and also fill a role in service as a personal protection, home defense tool.
Carbines like the two shown in this video, are easier to shoot the pistols because they offer multiple points of contacts. This facilitates the abiloity to enge targets at greater distances and a shorter learning curve for newer, less experienced shooters,
For people looking for a carbine that uses the same ammunition and magazines as their handgun, these two carbines are well worth consideration.
Ruger is a registered trademark of Ruger Inc
Glock is a registered trademark of Glock Inc
S&W is a registered trademark of Smith and Wesson Corp.

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@skipmaloney2126 11 месяцев назад

Love the oozing sarcasm in the polymer frame comment. Got a Sub2000 as a retirement gift. I added some enhancements but stayed with peep sights. Lots of fun.

@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC 11 месяцев назад

Many thanks for commenting and watching. The reality is the manufacturing and use of polymer products as advanced so much in recent years. My G 19 pistol has over 50,000 rounds through it and the frame is absolutely as solid as it was the first day. I have no concerns about the long term durability of the response Carbine.

@Thomas-yw9eo 10 месяцев назад

I had a gen one Sub 2 K in 40. I rough - handle my long guns and found it's weak point is it's fragile rear sight I had to replace twice after dropping a couple feet and they snapped off.

@accobra62 6 месяцев назад

Just a heads up, anyone choosing the S&W, check the build date. The early ones need to go back for a modification on the bolt. If it was built before 2-14-24, get it fixed, free of charged.

@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC 6 месяцев назад

Thank you for sharing that! Great information. Hope you'll subscribe and share the channel. Stay safe

@mychaelbrasley 2 месяца назад

But if it has a dash before and behind the 9mm in the chamber thin it has been fixd

@theklawclippers310 Месяц назад

Trash already

@toddm9501 Месяц назад

I saw that on some videos. I'm torn between these two. Thanx for posting👍🇺🇸

@wherearewegoing3657 10 месяцев назад

Thanks for your review/comparison. I'm a Glock and AR fan. The S&W Response was the perfect answer to my needs.

@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC 10 месяцев назад

Right on. Just like you, I’ve been very impressed with the Smith & Wesson Response Carbine. If you haven’t already, I hope you’ll consider subscribing to the channel and sharing it with your friends and family. All the best and stay safe.

@wherearewegoing3657 10 месяцев назад

@@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC Done and done! Keep up the good work!

@jimm7346 11 месяцев назад

Nice! My dad and I were looking at these and trying to decide which one we'd like. My pops has carpal tunnel and 9mm Handguns are really easy for him to load, cycle, and fire without too much trouble, so I figured these carbines would be perfect for him. I'm glad you posted this, should make our (to clarify, I want one too, they look like a lot of fun) next purchase an easy decision. Keep up the great work man, been loving the content lately!

@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC 11 месяцев назад

Sir, thank you so much. I appreciate your kind words. Sounds like you and your dad have some new Firearms coming your way at some point! Perhaps a Christmas present? Please feel free to share the channel and content with anyone in the second amendment community who has similar interests. Stay safe.

@frankedgar6694 8 месяцев назад

I have a Ruger PC and love it. I also have the M&P Shield and an M&P Plus. The Ruger mags are, hands down, easier to load. That being said, get your dad a Maglula mag loader. I’m 70 and also arthritic. I also am not as strong as I was 20 years ago. The Maglula make a world of difference, especially with S&W magazines.

@frankedgar6694 8 месяцев назад

And my current plan is to get an FPC. One, I just want it and two, I’ll be getting the 23 round mags that will also work in my Plus.

@uzifelner6147 8 месяцев назад

Great presentation! I was in the market for a while now shopping for an AR style firearm chambered in 9MM. You just helped me to make up my mind. It’s gonna be the M&P Response Carbine🤝

@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC 8 месяцев назад

If you own Smith & Wesson MP pistols. It’s a good choice! Thank you for watching and commenting. I hope you will subscribe to the channel.

@miltonevans1938 8 месяцев назад

I love my Ruger pcc. It looks alot better with all the new body parts. Even added a bi-pod on the front. Very accurate and lots of fun..

@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC 8 месяцев назад

Thanks for sharing. I agree the Ruger is a lot of fun and the new furniture improves the look and flexibility for adding attachments. Also, I like the idea of a bipod! Thank you for taking the time to comment. I hope you will subscribe and share the channel with friends and family.

@russellleavitt4449 11 месяцев назад

I did add a blue laser on the front chin of my forearm just in case and a canted foregrip too keep things tight. I know your saying a Blue laser really. Really this thing is amazing it is rechargeable, its very durable it has withstood hundreds of rounds with my Ruger PCC and every time I turn it on its lined right up with my red dot and iron sights.

@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC 11 месяцев назад

Sounds like a great addition. Thank you so much for taking the time to comment

@rayvolver4466 10 месяцев назад

Nice video 👍 It would have been a better comparison if you had the Ruger chassis version with adjustable stock. That’s the one I have and love it’s versatility. I added a folding stock so I can backpack it with my Security 9 The S&W is a nice option though but not for me.

@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC 10 месяцев назад

Good call! Unfortunately, I didn’t have access to the alternative Ruger chassis. I’ve heard great things about that set up and would encourage people to check that out if they’re looking for a PCC. Personally, I prefer AR style designs, because that is more transferable to my centerfire carbines. Thanks again for watching and commenting. I hope you will consider subscribing to the channel and sharing with friends and family.

@russellleavitt4449 11 месяцев назад

I put the Holosun 403G with the riser and now I can look through that and use my iron sights. My Ruger PCC now looks alot like the picture on the TANDEMKROSS Uprisor Chassis box to include a pistol grip, only I have the canted stock version and a Mission First minimalist stock. When I purchased my Ruger PCC it was in the American flag version with the MLOC forearm and traditional rear stock. The stock and forearm are now painted a Patriot pearl blue. It is a very accurate and reliable tool. Chambered in widely available 9MM ammunition. I like the Response for what it is a 9mm AR PCC.

@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC 11 месяцев назад

Thanks so much for commenting. Sounds like you’ve got a great set up with your Ruger. I appreciate you taking the time to share. Stay safe.

@russellleavitt4449 11 месяцев назад

@@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC thanks I will

@ericb.4358 7 месяцев назад

On my RUGER PC chassis carbine (MAGPUL MOE stock) I added a MAGPUL 1/4" high cheekpiece to align my eye with both the HOLOSUN AEMS circle/dot sight and the co-witnessed MAGPUL MBUS sights. It's an inexpensive and fast way rather than buying a lower AEMS mount. @@russellleavitt4449

@bullfrogjay4383 9 месяцев назад

I was considering these two rifles and went with the response. Ultimately it came down to the familiarity of the weapons platform in terms of take down and function. It matches all my other AR platform rifles. The ruger is nice with the added iron sights but I like the incresed sight radius MBUS flip ups afford on the response. Really you cant go wrong with either and both are solid.

@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC 9 месяцев назад

Sir, I couldn’t agree with you more. It really comes down to having consistency between training platforms. I appreciate you watching and commenting and hope you will consider subscribing to the channel and sharing it with friends and family. Stay safe.

@nicast_away4017 9 месяцев назад

I made the same choice based on my training and experience and went with the response. I wish it just wasn’t polymer but I do trust Smith and Wesson weapons with my life.

@russellleavitt4449 11 месяцев назад

You can add iron sights to the S&W and co witness with your red dot.

@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC 11 месяцев назад

100% agree. My point was the firearm for its cost should come with backup sites. That’s just a personal feeling about value. What many people don’t know is if their red dot sight goes out, and all they have up is the front site, they can use that in combination with the aperture of the red dot to have an effective aiming solution. Thanks again for commenting I really appreciate it.

@earldelsanto 7 месяцев назад

Very nice presentation.

@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC 7 месяцев назад

Thanks a lot! I hope you will check out some of our other content and if you enjoy it, please subscribe and share with your friends and family

@sirmaxwellvonfleckenstein5376 9 месяцев назад

I got the S&W response and the first 200 rounds went without a hiccup. The charging handle will take some getting used to and though it looks a bit rickety with all the polymer, it is a good shooter with iron sights. Just don't torque down too much on the MLOC rail when attaching accessories since it is polymer too. I'm sure the Ruger is fine and I considered it, but the lighter weight of the Response and a non-break barrel sealed the deal for me.

@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC 9 месяцев назад

Sir, those are good reasons for many people to choose the response carbine. Good points on the fact that most of the firearm is made from polymer. We will see how well it holds up. That being said, I’ve fired more than 30,000 rounds through the Smith & Wesson MP pistol and it’s held up fantastically well! I appreciate you watching and commenting and hope you will subscribe to the channel and share with friends and family.

@StuartHillman Месяц назад

Had the Ruger 9mm pcc stove piped almost all the time . Could not get thru one mag without that happening. Used the Ruger mags with different grain ammo.

@russellleavitt4449 11 месяцев назад

This is an informative post. I like that. I have to say this about that. Smith and Wesson did not build the response to Ruger's PCC in the traditional stock set up. There Response was in relation to the Ruger PCC MLOC with adjustable butt stock much like an AR-9 nothing like the one your showing here. They were able to join the Glock world. He HE

@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC 11 месяцев назад

Yes, sir. Great points. Thanks for sharing.

@Keithjmcc 11 месяцев назад

I have the ruger. Actually a pretty decent gun. Mine is the chassis model, collapsing stock and floating rail. That configuration is more inline and competitive with the s&w response. Good video, thanks

@joncosta5477 11 месяцев назад

⁠@@Keithjmccand heavier than a shotgun. Defeats the purpose imo…I own both and I’ve stopped shooting my Ruger.

@michaelm233 3 месяца назад

Great video. Now a subscriber. 👍

@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC 3 месяца назад

Welcome aboard!

@steveyboy7 6 месяцев назад

Hi, great video. I wanted to add that if you use a vortex red dot on your Ruger PC it is high enough where you can see your iron sights as well

@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC 6 месяцев назад

Thank you for commenting. Yes you are 100% correct you can use certain red dots without the riser and still be able to see the front site. I appreciate you commenting and hope you’ll consider subscribing to the channel if you haven’t done it already. All the best and stay safe.

@falcon5215 6 месяцев назад

Really good. Thanks

@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC 6 месяцев назад

Thank you so much for watching and commenting. I hope you will consider subscribing to the channel and sharing it with friends and family. Stay safe.

@JR-yn4cu 10 месяцев назад

I use the Sig MSR red dot that has the raised skeletonized mount. I can look under the red dot and right through the irons when I want. The red dot doesn’t seem too high at all. I can comfortably use it to hit targets at various ranges. It’s actually made me think about putting a raised Vortex 3x prism on it and use irons for close range and the optic for long. Though there’s realistically no need to I guess, but it could be done.

@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC 10 месяцев назад

Thanks so much for watching. I like your approach of using the elevated see-through site riser for the red dot. Also, like the idea of a three time magnifier. If you end up doing the three time magnifier, let me know how you like the prism. Thanks again for commenting. I hope you will consider subscribing to the channel.

@dexternorman6283 11 месяцев назад

I'm so glad u did this video was thinking of getting one of these

@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC 11 месяцев назад

Thanks for watching! I appreciate you commenting. Hope you’ll subscribe.

@Thomas-yw9eo 10 месяцев назад

My biggest problem with the Ruger I've had 6 years was the frontheavy feel. Problem was mitigated with the Magpul stock.

@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC 10 месяцев назад

Sir, thank you so much for commenting. I really appreciate that feedback and I’m sure our subscribers do as well. If you haven’t already, I hope you will consider subscribing to the channel and checking out some other other content.

@8475143117 9 месяцев назад

I own the Ruger PC Carbine in 40 S&W and considering a PC Carbine for 9mm and tried the cheek the S&W FPC but I just can't cheek it without my eye glasses getting in the way, I imagine that the Keltec Sub 2000 is pretty much the same way. What I like about the Ruger PC Carbine is that is doesn't have a pistol grip and is NOT classified by gun grabbers in Kommufornia as an "Assault Weapon".... I love Iron sights and the Ruger PC Carbine's iron sights are dead on!!! I'm leaning toward the Ruger PC Carbine in 9mm...

@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC 9 месяцев назад

Sir, thank you so much for watching and commenting. I agree with you the way the Ruger is set up, certainly excludes it from being a “evil“ assault rifle. It’s a reliable, durable and easy to shoot carbine. Sure you will enjoy it if you add it to your collection. Thanks again for commenting. I hope you will consider subscribing to the channel.

@mnrodriguez 9 месяцев назад

It doesn't happen to me.

@FlyingTigersKMT 5 месяцев назад

I bought both. Life is too short. The PC9 has the factory mlok forend and it's a take down that fits hiking or camping needs. Plus it looks more friendly than the scary AR. The Response is my primary long gun that goes with my sidearm.

@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC 5 месяцев назад

Good deal! I always like redundancy. Thanks for watching. Hope you'll subscribe!

@FlyingTigersKMT 5 месяцев назад

@@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC Sure did subscribe!!

@Roswell504 11 месяцев назад

Any plans to compare the S&W M&P FPC to the S&W Response?

@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC 11 месяцев назад

Sir, if I can lay my hands on one, I’d be happy to do that. The reason I was more interested in the response carbine versus the FPC is because the fire control system in the response carbine is much more similar to an AR15. based on the teaching and training, I do I found it more practical to standardize. Several hundred round through the response carbine we are very favorably impressed. Thanks for watching.

@ACommenterOnYouTube 11 месяцев назад

many people on RU-vid have done the comparisson

@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC 11 месяцев назад

@@ACommenterOnRU-vid Thanks for commenting. Yes, there have been a few comparisons. Each reviewer has a different perspective. Would love your feedback, what did you like like or dislike about our video s the others you've watched. How could we improve our content? Thank you again for commenting and watching.

@daphicus 2 месяца назад

I like my Ruger PC carbine!

@codyglasbergen2652 8 месяцев назад

The chassis version of the Ruger PCC far superior than the S&W in my opinion.

@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC 8 месяцев назад

The chassis is definitely solid. It’s a Ruger. What would you expect? I appreciate you watching and commenting and hope you will subscribe to the channel and share it with friends and family.

@mnrodriguez 7 месяцев назад

Agree!

@tommccormick9290 9 месяцев назад

With my old eyes (67 going on 17) I can no longer focus on my irons anyway so have grown to depend on red dot optics.

@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC 9 месяцев назад

Red dots definitely have value! Thanks for commenting. Hope you’ll subscribe and share the channel with friends and family.

@ericb.4358 7 месяцев назад

i realize you likely owned the plastic stocked RUGER PC but for this video and a much better comparison you really SHOULD have used a RUGER chassis carbine that looks very much like the S&W Response. BTW, TANDEMKROSS makes a dual lever ambidextrous safety to replace RUGER's awkward push button safety.

@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC 7 месяцев назад

Erik, thank you so much for sharing your insights and perspective. I agree with you if I had the newer furniture it might’ve been a better comparison. Nevertheless, I think both are good for their intended purposes. I like the idea of a different safety as I’ve never particularly like the way the Ruger safety was set up. It certainly works and at the end of the day that’s what matters . Once again, thanks for watching and commenting. I hope you will subscribe to the channel and share it with friends and family. We’re making a major effort to try to get to 100,000 subscribers in the next month or two. Every little bit helps. All the best and stay safe.

@mikec8123 7 месяцев назад

Curious why you didn't use the Ruger chassis model. Apples to apples.

@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC 7 месяцев назад

Hey Mike, thank you for watching and commenting. That’s a very fair point. Unfortunately, I have not upgraded or swapped out to the newer stock / for end . Many people like the new design and it certainly looks interesting. Once again, thanks for commenting. I hope you will consider subscribing and sharing the channel with friends and family.

@BrianWinters-c5x 10 месяцев назад

i have owned 10-22s and 870s so for me the ruger is natural

@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC 10 месяцев назад

You have good taste in shotguns and 22 long rifle carbines!

@frankedgar6694 8 месяцев назад

I prefer to have the mag release and bold on the right side. I prefer to use my dominant hand to actuate everything. I can load replacement mags quicker with my right hand.

@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC 8 месяцев назад

Thanks for watching and sharing your perspective. I prefer to keep my dominant hand on the fire control system. This allows me more control, particularly in a retention situation. If I remove my dominant hand from fire control to manipulate other aspects, such as releasing or reloading, the Weapon, I’m at a disadvantage. Regardless of whether I’m charging the firearm or reloading, keeping my dominant hand on fire control, allows me to have positive control of the weapons platform. If you think about training with your handgun, the typically you would not switch the handgun to your non-dominant hand to reload or charge the gun with your dominant hand. I believe in keeping a consistent process and approach regardless of the firearm. Again, thanks so much for taking the time to watch and comment. I hope you will subscribe.

@robertwest4299 11 месяцев назад

The ruger pc carbine and SW response are both blow back designs. The AR platform is di or gas.

@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC 11 месяцев назад

Sir, thank you so much for watching it commenting. The Smith & Wesson response carbine is a blowback to sign. You are correct that the AR 15 shooting a center fire rifle caliber uses gas impingement, or in some cases it could be set up as a short, stroke piston. That being said, this 9 mm pistol, caliber carbine from Smith & Wesson is definitely a blowback design. I appreciate you watching and commenting and hope you will subscribe to the channel.

@robertwest4299 11 месяцев назад

@@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC you know what, after your response, I think I misunderstood what was said in your video. You weren’t saying all ARs are blow back. You were comparing the response with its AR design in a blow back design with its recoil spring in the buffer tube to the less felt recoil of the ruger with its heavy bolt blow back design. Sorry about that.

@earldelsanto 7 месяцев назад

Response I choose. I will buy tomorrow. Safety is big reason. I actually like the Ruger with traditional stock and appliance m lock for end. But all things considered I choose smith and Wesson here.

@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC 7 месяцев назад

Sir, thank you so much for watching and commenting. I believe you would really enjoy it. If you haven’t already, I hope you will subscribe to the channel and share it with friends and family.

@frankhinkle5772 11 месяцев назад

I bought a Ruger PPC 9mm when they first came out. I am a little disappointed in the weight and the ergonomics; mainly the weight of that weight in the action right over the trigger. It makes the carbine feel sluggish. The palomar SW Response might be lighter and more ergonomic. However, I'm in CA and the Ruger PPC is legal here and the Response probably isn't.

@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC 11 месяцев назад

Sir, many thanks for watching and commenting. You raise some good points about the ruger. Still, it’s a great option especially if you live in a restrictive state like California. That state doesn’t believe in constitutionally guaranteed rights for its citizens. I appreciate the ruger for what it is. And, it’s proved itself to be accurate, reliable, and an awful lot of fun to shoot! Once again, thanks for watching… if you haven’t already, I hope you will subscribe. In addition, please share the channel with friends and family, who are interested in pro Second Amendment content.

@idahocougarfan9511 9 месяцев назад

Sorry you’re stuck in the Horrible state of Commiefornia.

@carinciampoli1494 6 месяцев назад

The extractor on the Ruger wears out. Replace it with aftermarket and it is good to go.

@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC 6 месяцев назад

Thank you so much for sharing that. I appreciate you commenting and hope you will subscribe to the channel and check out some of our other content.

@marubahoppie 10 месяцев назад

Cornerstone Rotary Safety for Ruger PC Carbine , it is kind of like the safety on a M1 Carbine , but ambi

@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC 10 месяцев назад

Thank you for sharing that with us. I’m not familiar with that safety but it sounds like a good option for sure! I hope you will consider subscribing.

@elijahbrooks8589 10 месяцев назад

Would a pistol dot sight co-witness

@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC 10 месяцев назад

It would depend on the footprint of the particular red dot that you’re using. If you’re mounting to the rail on top of the Ruger, that’s generally good to put it up too high to co-witness. Appreciate you watching and commenting. I hope you were consider subscribing if you haven’t already. Also, please feel free to share the channel and our content with any like-minded program people.

@FlyingTigersKMT 11 месяцев назад

Get the M-Lok forend version of the PC9 if you like adding doodads. I got that version and added a grip stop and light and that’s all that’s needed.

@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC 11 месяцев назад

Yes sir, that is a great option. Thank you for taking the time to watch and comment. All the best and stay safe.

@FlyingTigersKMT 11 месяцев назад

@@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC since you already got the regular version have you looked into the aftermarket replacement forend with M-Lok?

@alfonsobrena 11 месяцев назад

What are your thoughts on the felt recoil on the Response carbine?

@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC 11 месяцев назад

Sir, thank you for watching and commenting. I find the recoil to be very manageable and soft. Yes, because of the blowback design, some shooters might feel there is more recoil than something like an MP 5 which uses a roller block action, but, for me, this carbine is a winner. Especially if you already are using Glock or M&P pistols, because the magazine interchangeability is fantastic. Once again, thank you for commenting. I hope you will subscribe and share the channel with other like-minded individuals.

@johncadloni4538 11 месяцев назад

Im surprised you didnt talk about the weight differences. That ruger feels very heavy for what it is. Why i never bought one.

@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC 11 месяцев назад

Sir, thank you so much for bringing the weight issue up. That was appointed I should have covered it. The Ruger is heavy. However, it’s fine for what it is and has the advantage of being a take down carbine. I appreciate you taking the time to watch and comment and hope you will consider subscribing to the channel. Stay safe.

@mnrodriguez 7 месяцев назад

The Ruger is not plastic!

@tomtierney3812 10 месяцев назад

Nice range. Plenty of steel targets. Where's it located?

@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC 10 месяцев назад

Sir, thank you for watching the video. This range is located in Tualatin Oregon. This particular area is dedicated to steel silhouettes. I appreciate you commenting and hope you consider subscribing to the channel and sharing it with friends and family.

@chrisgoodwin5541 4 месяца назад

I really am liking the s&wresponse and really looking forward in getting one but whats your opinion on s&w folding carbine

@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC 4 месяца назад

Chris, I think any pistol caliber carbine has value. It really depends on what you’re looking for. I am personally a fan of the Smith and Wesson products . Thank you for watching and commenting. I hope you will subscribe to the channel and share it with friends and family.

@chrisgoodwin5541 4 месяца назад

@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC I personally am a fan to Smith and wesson is my carry weapon and I'm just really liking the carbine just deciding is watching all you awesome gun guys and seeing your reviews on it and so far I'm really going towards the response

@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC 4 месяца назад

Rowan brother!

@toddparsons2980 11 месяцев назад

Thanks for the comparison of these two PCCs. Both capable of taking Glock mags is a big advantage.

@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC 11 месяцев назад

Right on! Thanks for watching and commenting. If you haven’t already, I hope you will subscribe.

@BrianWinters-c5x 10 месяцев назад

midway offers several m lok for ends for the ruger

@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC 10 месяцев назад

Thank you so much. That will be an upgrade at some point. I like the idea though. Thank you for watching.

@josephn364 2 месяца назад

I have a featureless s&w response. It makes me sad, I hate California gun restrictions

@chrisgoodwin5541 4 месяца назад

Do you prefer the folding s&w carbine or the response s&w carbine

@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC 4 месяца назад

Pros and cons for each. But I do like the products!

@BrandonCountee 7 месяцев назад

i have the PC9. not bad good take down

@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC 7 месяцев назад

Sir, thank you for watching and commenting. The take down feature is great! I appreciate you taking the time to comment and hope you will consider subscribing to the channel and sharing it with friends and family.

@BrandonCountee 7 месяцев назад

@@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC already subscribed!

@BrianWinters-c5x 10 месяцев назад

on the rtuger if you put in the glock mag well change the mag catch as the mag catch is metal and will wear out the glock plastic mag notch ruger mags are metal so the metal catch is okay

@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC 10 месяцев назад

Great information and feedback. Thank you for sharing it with the subscribers. By the way, if you haven’t already, I hope you will consider subscribing and checking out some of our other content.

@Tupeutla 9 месяцев назад

hi, the Response is not take-off carbine, can we separate using the 2 pins and disassemble it for each travel ? i want to use a small bag. any pieces will fall ?

@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC 9 месяцев назад

Yes, you can certainly disassemble it. However, there is a part that can fall out if you’re not careful. This part sits where the frame and the upper come together in the magazine well. If you’re looking for a true takedown carbine, you might want to look at the Ruger PCC . I appreciate you commenting, and hope you will consider subscribing to the channel.

@gerritvanlent3327 9 месяцев назад

Are there any AR9s you would recommend for under 1k like the response that are full metal?

@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC 9 месяцев назад

Yes, Foxtrot Mike 9mm. Hope you’ll subscribe and share.

@gerritvanlent3327 9 месяцев назад

Thank you! @@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC

@joshuamandelbaum8668 5 месяцев назад

The ruger is legal in New York, the other is not……..

@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC 5 месяцев назад

Yes, you are correct. There are many states that view any type of long gun with a pistol grip or collapsible stock as somehow more dangerous than one without it. It’s an absolutely ludicrous case, but people react in funny ways when presented with freedom. Most folks on the far left these days believe only their group of elites should dictate what is permissible within society. They know what’s best and the average citizen doesn’t. These people struggle to understand the federalist papers or the concept of a constitutional republic. These folks prefer to give up freedom in the promise of safety. Unfortunately, that has never worked in the world. I appreciate you taking the time to watch and comment and hope you will subscribe and share the fan channel with friends and family !

@Soli_Deo_Gloria_. 11 месяцев назад

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@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC 11 месяцев назад

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@dansu3586 11 месяцев назад

Good video. But. Ruger has at least 3 models of PCC. One of them is "tactical", has adjustable stock, pistol handle, MLOK heat shield. Comparing S&W to wrong Ruger PCC model is like comparing oranges and apples. May I suggest reshoot proper review? P.S. I have Ruger PCC with butt stock, heat shield and iron sights together with Romeo 5 on high mount. Thinking about getting PCC which is easier to use in IDPA. Btw, any words if S&W planning to release 8-10" upper?

@GunsGearOnTargetTrainingLLC 11 месяцев назад

Sir, thank you so much for watching and commenting. I also agree that it is an apples to oranges comparison because ruger does offer many options as you noted. I’m well aware that Ruger hasoptions now that allows greater flexibility for their forend and mlok attachments. I think the Ruger PCC is fine product. The Ruger however, does not have a fire control system similar to the A.R. 15. There’s nothing wrong with a ruger design. It just follows the pattern that they use. Things like a cross bolt safety, the magazine release, and reciprocating bolt. I own both products and appreciate their unique characteristics and design. Both are reliable, accurate and fast handling. Thank you for sharing your comments and calling out some of the things I failed to mention.

@russellleavitt4449 11 месяцев назад

Ruger sells the modem sporting pistol version of the PCC its called the Charger. Just saying. It is also a takedown. 9mm in that barrel length

@russmichael1165 11 месяцев назад

I keep going back and forth between the two models in this video. I like things about both, lol, knowing me, I'll probably end up with both of them. Thank you for all of your videos!

@dansu3586 11 месяцев назад

@@russellleavitt4449 not sold in Canada