When I went to Cuba to study Rumba 25 years ago the idea of playing 6 on top of 4 was incomprehensible. I later understood the concept and can do basic phrases but I still suck at it. This is a very complicated and intricate art form and almost impossible for the casual listener to understand. These guys are masters.
That is true ,, It's intricate but not impossible to understand. Syncopation is the trickiest and hardest to master. Unlike the R&B and Salsa rhythms , these rhythms a have structure which doesn't natural at first but it really is. It's taken me over 15 years just to understand how vital all the parts are in relation to each other.
@@Jaburu just feel it 🤣🤣🤣 Sure that'll help lol Maybe tell him its 16th note triplets, to start? And yes, people can count in South America. The too, have math and music class
@@arthurraleigh5812 judging by your name you should understand my sentence. noone learns rythms here by counting. the guy said he counted for 15 years to get it right, while 15 years old learn rythms in 15 days here by listening. rythm is a melody. like any melody it will burn into your brain if you hear it often enough
love how the Conga and the Tumba player are having fun joking over phrases, while the Quinto Player just loses it completely from the very beginning. What a great madness..
As an American Cuban born for me it works by feeling, l play to this actually easier than l played drums to a James Brown song, and l fell in love with the J.B. drum beat in the sixties, l guess what works for me is the fact that the afroCuban came with me when we left Cuba, so its different for everyone, l do believe that it can be understood with proper training and practice, virtuosity may not be for all because the most integrating component is the birth attachment. Just my opinion.
Columbia is the one of most complex form of Afro Cuban rumba..the Conga and Tumbadora stay generally in 6/8 whilst the quinto flirts in and out of straight duple feel to 6/8 and sometimes somewhere in between. To the unaccustomed ear he may appear out. It there was a dance it would makes more sense whats going on. These are 3 most highly accomplished exponents of this art.
Saludos a Colombia desde Alemania. Pronto volveré a tu tierra hermosa. Espero que las inmensas ricezas culturales de este país serán reconocidos por el mundo y que su gente encontrará la paz y la abundancia que se merece.
maybe because I grow up listening this kind of music '' Columbia'' it's easier for me to see the diference between what he plays and the djembe style. probably those who get confused don't have a clear understanding of afro-cuban music. There maybe some similarities becauses the roots of these rhythms come from west-africa, but still it's obviously different. just to make it clear, people don't learn ( esa manana ) on schools..you haters don't even know who those guy are neither what they play..
he's not off. It might sound like that, but that's 'cause the quinto is allowed a lot of freedom in the rhythm, unlike the other two drums which can do flourishes but must still keep the integrity of the rhythm
look at the video in this series called RUmba Guaguanco....dude with the blue shirt on Quinto....sometimes LESS is MORE...he is clearly the more experienced player...I'd go so far as to say...GREAT...every touch is TIMELY placed!!!
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have never heard of these drums...... however these guys could make crates sound good they have natural born rhythm 6-8 7-8 3-4 5-4 n so on isnt taught these guys were born w the inate ability n god given rhythm to perform very intricate time signatures patterns or whatever u decide to label it? n make it sound very good
Cuba is a small Island with an incredibly large musical genres, the mixture of Spain's flamenco,with so many different African tribes, results of the days of slavery can be confusing for anyone who was not born from this mix. I was born in Cuba in 1955, left to the US in 1966, did not listen to this type of music up until 2005, I immediately fell in the rhythm cause I was born from it. I read one comment down below in which the commentator is saying that the quinto is off, this is the result of hearing a musical genre unknown to you from the soul, because you were not born there.
I like your explanation...to my ear he is 'off', but perhaps if there were dancers I could see where the conversation between them might be relevant. I stand corrected, because honestly...I don't know this style
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you can tell me what you want, the quinto wasn't feeling it until 2:06 when he started to listen to the other 2. he seamed nervous in the beginning and tried to show off badly
I agree, although he is a GREAT player It seems he is not even trying to lock in, and as another person mentioned he is playing djembe style all the way. Not that that matters, but... Then again what do I know?
the quinto does not necessarily blend the patterns well to arrive at a harmonic coherence with the other drums. It seems it is all attack only and seems to disregard integration of subtle, patient, stroke patterns that add interest and taste or flavors. Just my constructive opinion.
