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RUNE GUIDE - What stats to look for on what sets? (Summoners War) 

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Oh boy it's a long one. (that's what she said)
Hope it helps some new players though.

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@Farycane
@Farycane 4 года назад
"Mana is easy to get" Cries in poor
@tomerfeldman5278
@tomerfeldman5278 3 года назад
me after spending 50m mana this week have to agree with Bagel farm nb12 u get 2m for couple runs
@klaps2463
@klaps2463 2 года назад
@@tomerfeldman5278 does nb12 drop more than giants or something?
@epilafios2503
@epilafios2503 2 года назад
I have so many + 6 runss that have crazy sub stats and I can't lvl them up it's so sad
@zerovermilion8715
@zerovermilion8715 3 года назад
Energy: HP%, Def%, SPD, Accuracy, Resistance Guard: Def%, SPD, HP%. Bruiser tanks with def scaling can go Crit Rate and Crit Dmg, but supportive monsters should take Accuracy or Resistance, depending on if they buff more or debuff more. Swift: If it does not have SPD, autosell. I mean it. Refer to Guard for more details, but also add Atk% on the offensive swift units. atk scaling swift units can include Seara, so try to see what the monster you HAVE can do, before keeping these runes. Blade: Crit Rate, Crit Dmg. The rest depends on the damage scaling of your units. Oh, and SPD is also a must-have. Don't use on Leo btw, as other 2-sets are more useful. Rage: Same idea as Blade, but some units whom rely on conditions and can fully crit, like Naomi requiring ONE debuff to crit, or Water Penguin requiring just defense break to autocrit... Those would need no extra crit rate. Otherwise, try to get 70% minimum crit rate before you lock these runes onto a monster. Focus: Lacking accuracy, but if you put accuracy on 6 you lose a lotta defensive stats? Take these sets. SPD, Acc, HP, Def. Normally, Resistance is best as the innate rather than one that could be upgraded, but there are a few exceptions. Take this rune for any debuff focused supports like Loren or even strippers like Chiwu. Fatal: Any earlygame atk type monster uses this. Atk, Crit Rate, Crit DMG, SPD, Accuracy. All those are enough, try to get DEF or HP on slot 3 fatal runes if the other stats are present (atk cannot exist in slot 3) Despair: Got AoEs, multi hits, or revenge effects? This rune is for that monster. Probably except Feng Yan, who can do way better with Violent to have a permanent revenge buff. Vampire: This one's for your solo farmers. Astar with this set can solo Charuka Hell, giving the highest exp per run to all your monsters and skyrocketing your exp farming significantly. Get ATK, Crits, Def, and HP. SPD and ACC are dependent to the monster's kit. Leo can really benefit from this set if he doesnt get speed out of it. Violent: "When in doubt, go violent". Probably the most flexible rune set in the whole game, because anyone with this can do good if they really work at it. ANY stat works, just as long as it got speed, and stats dependent on their role in the team. Nemesis: Turn cycling. If the unit has a good heal (i.e. Praha), a good game-changing ability (i.e. Verad), or a scary amount of utility when he starts getting turns (i.e. Verd or even Veromos!), they can use this rune. Try to get Defense to soften the hits the unit gets, because if they die trying to cycle, it's kinda pointless. Also, SPD and HP are good here too. The rest depends on what the monster does. Will: If your support is below 250 speed; If your dps is a Lightning Emperor; If you have a slow damage team (excluding fat lushen from this), take Will into PvP. This can help force the enemy to committing one slot to a stripper, which then gives you more space to deal with their stuff. Try to ban their scariest cc unit afterwards, but in any other case, this is a really strong rune set. DO NOT USE MORE THAN ONE ON EACH UNIT. Flexible to adapt to the needs of many monsters. Shield: Good for supports, Necropolis, and even Lightning Emperor teams. Revenge: Does your unit have a good 1st skill that can be used to cc, farm, or even just do a lot of poke? Take this rune and grab the same stats as you would get on Nemesis sets. They can actually be interchangeable with several monsters. Destroy: This is good for bruisers who want to chip down the enemy's max HP, especially to the really good scaling ones like Ramagos or Skogul. Try to put this on bruisers rather than dps units, as many dps units rely on ending the enemy quickly rather than hitting them for a second full commitment combo. Fight/Determination/Enhance/Accuracy/Tolerance: Rune sets are used when you need the team to get just a tad bit more stats to do what they need to do efficiently. Fight is good for BJR5 comps, for example. Determination is great for bruisers, as well as the Enhance set. Accuracy is good for a lot of debuffing supports. Tolerance is just Endure, split into all allies for less individual set bonus. (12% res to all, instead of 20% res to user). These are all just to allow your units to get what they need to do, done, and in a bit easier way. Also complimentary for some units that lack just a little bit of the stat they need. Notice that each one start sounding adaptive the lower you get to the list? It's because it starts getting flexible with each use, and eventually becomes so flexible that it heavily depends on the units that you equip them on, and even their team compositions. Bruisers want HP, DEF, RES, Crits, and some SPD. Other stats are optional. Nukers and DPS want Atk, Crits, and SPD. Accuracy is optional and DEF and HP are for survivability. Debuffer supports want SPD and Accuracy, and then good HP and Defense. The rest are optional and ATK and Crits are unnecessary. Buffers want SPD. A ton of it. Then they want HP, Def, Acc, Res, in that order. Nothing else matters to them. Bombers want SPD, Atk, and Acc. Nothing else is necessary, but some HP, DEF, and RES will be fine as innates. There are exceptions to these "archetypes", but they're a good way to classify units. Check their skills, their base stats, and then decide what runes are best for them.
@zerovermilion8715
@zerovermilion8715 3 года назад
This entire comment should probably be a Reddit thread instead, in hindsight...
@deedoss5714
@deedoss5714 Год назад
what about if its a slot 2 speed rune, then what do you look for, on swift i mean
@brianhill1818
@brianhill1818 2 месяца назад
Is this for main stats or sub stats
@loveless9349
@loveless9349 4 года назад
Please remember that this guide is for OPTIMIZATION. Using offsets is totally viable. If a rune seems like it could be good, even if it's a bad set, give it a power up! If it rolls well, you might be able to use it. My Naomi (who I use for G12, Siege, GW, Ice Rift) is runed TRIPLE ENDURE! Because I keep getting really good Endure runes with 25 Crit Damage. She has +11k hp, +1500 atk, +55 spd, and 241 CD. The Endure runes also put her at 100 Resistance! She can one shot Skoguls and is an incredible unit, but this isn't supposed to be a Naomi review. The point is, yes, if the same set was Rage she would have 281 CD. But would I really use that Rage set on Naomi? No, I'd put it on a fat Lushen. Do what you have to. There's no shame in using wonky rune sets if the stats are good.
@johnturtle6649
@johnturtle6649 3 года назад
this is how I runed my tatu with guard/endure/energy the runes just rolled all the good stats she needed, and she ended up with excellent extra hp and 100% res with passable defense. she can hang in giants already and I haven't six starred her yet. she ended up with 172 speed which is perfect for the dungeon and shes also the slowest member which makes her go last, it all worked perfectly. all because I followed the same basic advice you are advocating here.
@traceythompson7895
@traceythompson7895 4 года назад
Thank you Bagel! I got so much from this video. Most runes I keep have stats that don't synergize. This is gonna point me in the right direction, if the right runes can just drop now. Keep up the good work. Farm more runes!
@drewmkats
@drewmkats 3 года назад
Your description of Vampire explains why runing Laiki seems so difficult. Appreciate the breakdown
@Chewboom
@Chewboom 4 года назад
Jewbagel when he sees 5 star runes: “So anyways I started blasting”
@godsgamer7494
@godsgamer7494 4 года назад
38:40
@zerovermilion8715
@zerovermilion8715 3 года назад
b12 exists because midgame demands people will abandon all runes below 6 stars in preparation of midgame PvP and even towards the transition to lategame.
@DeirdreSM
@DeirdreSM 4 года назад
You are a genius, as I was literally looking for this video last night.
@alvinnnac
@alvinnnac 4 года назад
Summary 101 "Spd" is important "Hp" need "Def" "Cr" need "Cdm" and "Atk" extra "Hp", "Def" is goood just sell Blue runes when u see one. Hero 6star is the Minimal Rune to catch. (with good substat ofc) Stupid "Inmate" rune like "Flat Defense, Flat HP" are good. because it wont be enchanced. Add yours 101 tips on the comment! Edit. "Innate Runes" and "Cdm" needs "Cr". cuz "Cr" is independent asf
@TheKillerMB1
@TheKillerMB1 4 года назад
ty
@val-8073
@val-8073 4 года назад
Mmeh, cd needs cr, but cr doesn't often need cd. Only 2a cats need 0 cr because of conditionnal rate
@Luzarioth
@Luzarioth 4 года назад
innate... not inmate XD neither those runes nor these stats are in prison ;P
@EinManU
@EinManU 4 года назад
oh theres also: -There are some bruiser-monsters that value crit - pretty much the only stat def/hp% runes dont want is atk%, and even that can work on stuff like fran/anavel who scale on practically anything -never keep flat main-stats on slots 2/4/6, except speed on 2, because there is no %speed. -the most important rune-set for 99% of players is violent, there are next to no monsters that cant use it - and violent likes offensive stats just as much as defensive ones, so youll just get more usable runes. FARM DRAGONS.
@loveless9349
@loveless9349 4 года назад
Strongly disagree with selling all blues. If a blue has speed, a good 2nd sub, and a half decent innate, it's worth a try.
@Yacht_for_Sale
@Yacht_for_Sale 4 года назад
@30:21 NO Bagel! I may not be one of those people who ask you for some rune guides but this really helps me what to keep or what to sell runes. For example, I kept too many blue and purple despair runes that have hp and defense mix with flat stats but don't have speed and accuracy stats, now I sold most of them and in return, it gave me more than million mana
@jpiii6051
@jpiii6051 2 года назад
31 min in. Still here. I needed that. Have a good idea what to sell/keep, played Raid for over 2 years. But wanted to see a vid like this. It's an old vid but still relevant. Love your vids.
@danieldanger8835
@danieldanger8835 4 года назад
Just one thing i wanna say: i am waching this video because I like when you in person. i know which runes i should keep and which not. Keep going bagel
@danielginn516
@danielginn516 4 года назад
so much info in that beanie covered head.
@jewsus5044
@jewsus5044 4 года назад
Just helping out with the algorithm. Nice video as almost always🤪
@jfree672
@jfree672 4 года назад
i mean the other videos could be 3 years old for all i care. nothing has changed about what runes to keep honestly.
@Drazer012
@Drazer012 4 года назад
Yes, and most people wont ever find those old videos, so making an updated one never hurts. Be happy Bagel actually makes informative content about SW, its not super easy to come by anymore.
@mylesg802
@mylesg802 4 года назад
The game and skills change therefore types of runes needed changes....
@EinManU
@EinManU 4 года назад
@@mylesg802 no they really dont need changes. its still just "get vio, be fast"
@elijahharms935
@elijahharms935 4 года назад
Thanks for doing these rune and dungeon videos even though you don't enjoy them, it is very selfless and I enjoy them.
@DBushOP
@DBushOP 2 года назад
Hey JewBegal 👋, I'm happy to say I'm one of the people who needed this and actually watched lol. Thanks for all you do!
@lexjordan9910
@lexjordan9910 4 года назад
31:42 True. I'm just here give Bagel some watchtime.
@Antomaru
@Antomaru 4 года назад
i like the repeats brother keep it up. i like to listen to you while i'm doing other things and these videos are perfect for that
@phelenacramer8472
@phelenacramer8472 3 года назад
I didn't know and I watched the video and took notes. Thank you for making this particular video.
@cwaigio
@cwaigio 4 года назад
Good video, Bagel. I like these fat guides, would love to see more hostile takeovers and how to rune guides.
@olegdoroshenko4836
@olegdoroshenko4836 4 года назад
Fight, determination, enchance are all working for ally teams in R5. One can be put on some backline support like Lisa, Kona to give more stability to runs
@bobdylan5304
@bobdylan5304 3 года назад
Take a shot every time bagel says speed.
@Neo_Fast
@Neo_Fast 4 года назад
first part i already knew about :) . however the rune crafting is imp for me to know how you see the runes and judge what to keep and what's not for efficiency
@pFlouw66
@pFlouw66 Год назад
Thank you SO much i Really Appreciate videos like this And will Continue to Watch all of your Content ;)
@wrexocane
@wrexocane 4 года назад
31:30 You caught me!
@iraulajuanmiguel3553
@iraulajuanmiguel3553 4 года назад
I've been waiting to this guide for so long.
@JessicaOliveira-dn2ez
@JessicaOliveira-dn2ez 4 года назад
I just watching your video to watch your video 31:30m the real truth..play it on repeat
@MrShentov
@MrShentov 3 года назад
I already knew all that, just watching for the sake of watching you, exactly. May be just so use to your voice, huh.
@blkdrgn18
@blkdrgn18 2 года назад
Hey bagel what I really want to know is how to know what runes are best for a monster build. For example, how do you know which runes are best to use on a certain monster, i.e. Colleen. How do you know which sets to use on certain mods. The skills don't tell you what rune does best with that skill. Like how do you know what runes to use with mons judging by their skill descriptions?
@Verxendox
@Verxendox 4 года назад
31:15 Sad but true. Bagel spitting some facts
@okaybye747
@okaybye747 4 года назад
Omg YES Bagel thank you!
@cruistz
@cruistz 4 года назад
yeah bagel, your yapping video like this are way better than alot of crappy songs nowadays
@arrogantf.m.p.8905
@arrogantf.m.p.8905 2 года назад
Is there an update to this? I know some of these sets may not be as good now in 2022
@justingreene2592
@justingreene2592 4 года назад
knew a good bit of the info, but also learned a few things ... like 70/30
@ganesanbalasubramaniam4198
@ganesanbalasubramaniam4198 3 года назад
U should make end monthly rune craft keep or sell that would be helpful and what is considered good or bad.👍👍👍
@AkISerge
@AkISerge 3 года назад
does bagel have any rune farming progression guide ? do i stick to fast safe b10 dungeons or farm 60% win rate b11 , when do you want yo grind dhole ?
@theverygrumpygreg9149
@theverygrumpygreg9149 4 года назад
Bagel doing a rune stat video. WHAT YEAR IS THIS?
@ego4892
@ego4892 3 года назад
sooo your basically saying that you need all the stats for every rune... glad i watched
@mohammedriyadtaha8046
@mohammedriyadtaha8046 4 года назад
I'm really watching this video because I watch your videos 😂😂
@TigrrGoesOHAI
@TigrrGoesOHAI 4 года назад
Tolerance is really nice for tartarus
@Fatalinvesting
@Fatalinvesting 4 года назад
What is the song at 41:15?
@youngjabba8099
@youngjabba8099 4 года назад
Kinda new to the game so.. this helps thanks
@jaypocaigue3997
@jaypocaigue3997 4 года назад
Idk the first thing abt runing, i thought i was doing it right by doing the 2set and 4set effects right at least, and managing to power up 5* and 6* runes to +12 and +15. But i was confused how stats like hp and def even when I focused on that only went up maybe 4k. Where when I saw someone's rune set on the same mon with 10k and it was so ridiculous im so lost im gonna die
@brianhill1818
@brianhill1818 2 месяца назад
Is this for main or sub stats
@zekeolen
@zekeolen 4 года назад
Saturday Morning summons?
@6enkai
@6enkai 3 года назад
bruhhhh thank you mane this shit really helped out!!!
@fta2007
@fta2007 4 года назад
if it is a flat 2/4/6 but has +6 speed on legend shouldn't you at least try to roll it for a ton of speed?
@_Stellar
@_Stellar 4 года назад
Thanks for the video!
@endlesswaltz1810
@endlesswaltz1810 4 года назад
So many legendary runes!you're A really lucky dog!
@SABRMatt2010
@SABRMatt2010 3 года назад
258 MILLION mana....*jaw drops*
@meridianline7291
@meridianline7291 4 года назад
didnt explain rolls. i feel like this video is for end game accounts
@TheBeefywolf
@TheBeefywolf 4 года назад
Do accuracy affect despair stun rate?
@marvellousadedapo8952
@marvellousadedapo8952 3 года назад
no
@omni-archon4444
@omni-archon4444 4 года назад
Jewbagel you wrong 41:26 , that ruin could be kept and reappraised, Not everyone a G3 player
@LivE-01
@LivE-01 4 года назад
WTB a video on how to redeem a these codes from watching the SWC on IOS... For the life of me I can't figure it out.. shouldn't be this hard..
@ayraoroha5072
@ayraoroha5072 4 года назад
I know everything but enjoyed watching him suffer with all that trashy runes
@DemonMuramasa
@DemonMuramasa 4 года назад
What is toa?
@kejonp9302
@kejonp9302 4 года назад
i wanna see baldgel
@ジェリー-k8d
@ジェリー-k8d 4 года назад
me new to sw using a lushen with +10spd watching this: 👁👄👁
@mikfrelo4471
@mikfrelo4471 4 года назад
Good video
@Sirmartinii
@Sirmartinii 3 года назад
i roll blue 5* runes if they have spd incase they double roll :D
@WindDevil1
@WindDevil1 4 года назад
gets multiple legend runes with hp def and attack, that can even get 15 speed grinds later "oh this is trash that i'll keep cause i feel bad selling" and then "oh we got nothing exciting as usual" OK LOL meanwhile the other guardian players doing reaps "oh this is done, it has quad grinds"
@theforsakenkarma568
@theforsakenkarma568 4 года назад
time passed by like nothing :D
@butterpants5711
@butterpants5711 3 года назад
Love u
@crkTyphoon
@crkTyphoon 4 года назад
41:40 anyone else annoyed by the fact that this could still be a brokenset filler rune? for like a skogul...
@octaviobruns9502
@octaviobruns9502 2 года назад
Could you help me rune my monstersss
@Hyelmy
@Hyelmy 4 года назад
Woa pro
@wontonernie9547
@wontonernie9547 3 года назад
i like you lip ring
@red_dll
@red_dll 4 года назад
31:30 True.. xD
@hyohyo9960
@hyohyo9960 4 года назад
I'd like Korean subtitles.
@AMV_KINGDOM_mv
@AMV_KINGDOM_mv 4 года назад
Ooof after that last video I don't even wanna play tbh I heard alot of malicious leaving now idk if that true or not like imagine having supporters and spiting in they face like they had to see the video you did jewbagel lol
@patsakornpariyapranee9181
@patsakornpariyapranee9181 4 года назад
I thought this was the 3 yrs ago video xd
@tonytonychopper3153
@tonytonychopper3153 4 года назад
Bagel
@jordanhoffman1337
@jordanhoffman1337 3 года назад
Lol it's been done a million times ur funny as crap
@amzrelax8124
@amzrelax8124 4 года назад
yeah
@khairulashraf8258
@khairulashraf8258 3 года назад
258 millions mana wtf
@jesse7838
@jesse7838 4 года назад
I tried to punch Bagel through the screen for selling a Leg Rage with CD
@lys_9418
@lys_9418 4 года назад
bagek gets a 5* rune..... DELETE
@Tasus753
@Tasus753 4 года назад
@noanoazaro4705
@noanoazaro4705 4 года назад
Like 👍👍👍👍👍👍
@johnnylee1567
@johnnylee1567 4 года назад
Oh god!! I couldn’t believe he sold all legendary runes without good subs. Why don’t he reappraised them for better subs because legendary runes are a rare commodity. I’m sorry but I got boiled after soo many Rage Legendary runes got sold so I had to quit watching.
@Timirus7
@Timirus7 4 года назад
i watch almost every jew bagel videos and what i hate the most is when he says his mons are badly runed and i have been playing for years and cant get even one of my mons to look like one of his bad runed mons! its disgusting bagel stop complaining people cant get good rolls on runes com2us need to fix these trash rolls! when i finally get a good rune it never rolls speed!! these random rolls are stupid af!
@Timirus7
@Timirus7 4 года назад
Jew bagel's Malaka is runed better than all my mons put together and he says his malaka needs work smfh
@AFKKiller1YT
@AFKKiller1YT 4 года назад
hour long vid..
@DeadSexyAdamCheney
@DeadSexyAdamCheney 4 года назад
How much do you play a day? Do you do anything else? Cause its hard for me to play like 20 min
@aldothelizard6669
@aldothelizard6669 4 года назад
Your fast lushen, in fact, is faster than my turn 1 booster 😭
@aldothelizard6669
@aldothelizard6669 4 года назад
I just realised that violent is placed in the middle (core) 😂
@oloveless1667
@oloveless1667 4 года назад
Have you been playing the game?
@EinManU
@EinManU 4 года назад
*farm runes then*
@hericide1
@hericide1 3 года назад
@@EinManU exactly lol
@s-rkids3805
@s-rkids3805 4 года назад
Really helpful thanks!
@zzace00
@zzace00 4 года назад
Another piece of info that might help some people who want high spd rolls or triple rolls in general, purple runes have a 1/27 chance of triple rolling where as legend runes have a 1/64 chance of triple rolling. So if you aren't super endgame, purple runes are a great way to get some high spd runes
@juanavendano6405
@juanavendano6405 4 года назад
In summary: I am speed
@raki_raki
@raki_raki 4 года назад
Pin this bagel
@blowmethreetimes8912
@blowmethreetimes8912 4 года назад
Yup speed speed speed
@Void99993
@Void99993 4 года назад
My name is Barry Allen and I am the fastest man alive
@mrernseatthesnickers6839
@mrernseatthesnickers6839 4 года назад
In summary: I am molasses
@jaxipoo
@jaxipoo 3 года назад
@@Void99993 a
@Zipnologic
@Zipnologic 4 года назад
Dude, you can do a hundred of this same content, and I'll watch every one. It is a good refresher and reminder of where your standards should be at, for where you're at in the game progressively... it's good practice to do some aspects redundantly, like the way a sports player or martial artistis who practice a movement over and over.
@lanersm56
@lanersm56 4 года назад
“You need more speed” -Bagel in 2020 & 2019 & 2018 & 2017 & 2016
@BlinkAnime69
@BlinkAnime69 4 года назад
Nice guide, stats over sets
@ΜαρίναΤσαπαρίδη
@ΜαρίναΤσαπαρίδη 4 года назад
You are first and didnt say first grats
@stavroschloros-samuelian4487
@stavroschloros-samuelian4487 4 года назад
lol! I'm like "what am I going to watch for my rune power-up session?" well... thanks Mr.Bagel :DDDD
@superfullvic
@superfullvic 3 года назад
I wish someone would make a visual chart out of this for decision making
@johnfluffles7442
@johnfluffles7442 3 года назад
The whole time he was explaining the runes i was taking notes great info :D
@obi1cannoli700
@obi1cannoli700 4 года назад
I swear.. it was like he was reading my mind. This was a video I wanted lol . NICE!
@Lp0tr33
@Lp0tr33 4 года назад
I found your rune video from 1973. Otherwise your motto has always been "NEEDS MORE SPEED".
@SABRMatt2010
@SABRMatt2010 3 года назад
y'know...I toss all 5 star 2/4/6 runes...except speed slot 2. The difference between 5 and 6 star is only 3 speed. If they roll super-efficiently, I don't see why you wouldn't keep them.
@Chewboom
@Chewboom 4 года назад
Ehm still watch the video but, get speed haha
@fateX1179
@fateX1179 4 года назад
I sold all of my runes after watching this video
@potudolu3856
@potudolu3856 4 года назад
80% of the runes need spd
@zepvibe6719
@zepvibe6719 4 года назад
idk why accuracy rune is named accuracy i feel like it should be named precision or something like that
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