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Running a 1.5 ton Industrial Robot With a Custom Open-source Controller part 1 

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CORRECTION: Odrives are actually designed to run PMAC motors, I'm still not quite sure why I am getting such a low final speed though, I was expecting ~6% faster.
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@pablomontoya8303
@pablomontoya8303 Год назад
Definitely balls of steel having that arm inside where it's well in range to smash through all of those floor joists lol
@codeack101wlck
@codeack101wlck Год назад
Not like its gonna move where not programed it doesn't have a mind of its own
@nicolassepulveda4878
@nicolassepulveda4878 Год назад
I mean, dude, for sure Hazard prevention is your topic. Out of the sarcasm, bad programming can happen, or failure can happen internally. That's why robotic arm setups have many panic stop buttons, also that's why there is a line on the floor so people is out of reach of the arm's movement range.
@codeack101wlck
@codeack101wlck Год назад
@@nicolassepulveda4878 yeah I weld with a dual arm yaskawa everyday, unless your stupid and can't control your own actions of input into the robot suurrreeeeeee yeah it will smash through his wall, but I doubt anyone here is oblivious to their actions
@codeack101wlck
@codeack101wlck Год назад
@@nicolassepulveda4878 the stops and guards are for auto operation, everyday i move arms that im standing next to you can respect a machine and still be safe
@feolender2938
@feolender2938 Год назад
@@codeack101wlck I just started using Yaskawa but not for welding. How did you get into that?
@brandonmee-lee1695
@brandonmee-lee1695 2 года назад
you're an absolute legend
@marksmod
@marksmod Месяц назад
Jeez Louise, what a project. This looks like a full-time job
@yannpenhas9280
@yannpenhas9280 Год назад
What a challenge, man! It doesn't sound to be a piece of cake, but is definitely worth the effort! And the knowledge you get from this experience is priceless 👌
@harrysvensson2610
@harrysvensson2610 Год назад
Trust me when I say that he's simplified a lot. Like, A LOT.
@joels7605
@joels7605 Год назад
This is amazing! There is a huge market for aftermarket Fanuc retrofits. If you decided to sell that people would buy them like crazy for old CNC machines running Fanuc drives.
@VladPalacios
@VladPalacios 8 месяцев назад
I want one
@theaveragepro1749
@theaveragepro1749 8 месяцев назад
but also might risk legal action from Fanuc
@paulie-g
@paulie-g 8 месяцев назад
@@theaveragepro1749 On what basis? Reverse engineering for the purposes of compatibility is specifically legal in the US. No one whom Fanuc would hope to sell to would be using a homemade DIY solution instead.
@mprotec1
@mprotec1 4 месяца назад
i want a hundred!
@kelownatechkid
@kelownatechkid Год назад
Wow. Learning VHDL for a project like this is extremely dedicated! I am very impressed.
@godetaalibaba2522
@godetaalibaba2522 2 года назад
I'm a robotic student and your video is full of interesting informations, thank you so much ! I had never thought about doing something like that, buying real industrial robot is awesome and I look forward to see the day I'll have the space and knowledge to do what you did there 👍
@Make-Asylums-Great-Again
@Make-Asylums-Great-Again 11 месяцев назад
JUST DOOOO IT, DOOOOOOO IT!
@BlueJeebs
@BlueJeebs Год назад
First time I've heard of a practical use of FPGA-s that I'd be interessted in lol. Also the fact that you can get your hands on a robot like that is next level, if for nothing else, for practice. Just make sure it doesn't put a hole in the roof I guess lmao
@Manofcube
@Manofcube Год назад
Great vid that shows what you're up against if you decide to acquire one of these units. Unless you want a forever-project, $5-10k sounds like what should be expected.
@rok1475
@rok1475 Год назад
I hope you will one day develop this project into a business converting discarded robots into useful machines
@skybirdprojects5489
@skybirdprojects5489 Год назад
This is an insane amount of skill and effort. Good job, and that is a wicked project!
@Zauviir
@Zauviir Год назад
you are a hero! please keep us updated on the progress on spinning a custom pcb to control these, we use a few fanucs and i've always wanted to get a smaller one to tinker around with but i was worried about all the licensing bs.
@Dangineering
@Dangineering Год назад
Whoa, instant sub. You are straight amazing. Electrical engineering still feels like black magic to me.
@peterfitzpatrick7032
@peterfitzpatrick7032 Год назад
Yep... instant sub here too... 😎👍☘️🍺
@Torqu3e
@Torqu3e Год назад
This is what hacking means in today's world. The vast spanse of knowledge in various domains like electronics, electrical, mechanical, software, hydraulics, CNC, troubleshooting skills, what not is required to make this happen. Kudos to unkerfuffling so much complexity and getting a working model. Hat tip good sir!
@sevendesign1805
@sevendesign1805 Год назад
Brilliant work! You stand among the great! Way to push through! You're helping drive manufacturing for the everyday guys. I build machines and could totally use that controller. I just drove the cost on a part from a $1.05 to $.09 and we make a thousand of these parts a day minimum. We need to load the machine once a month while we maintain the ability to pull 1,600 off a day. "So we never have to load it and we're able to pull in $$ish?" Yessir. I'm stoked... I started electrical and mechanical and then found manufacturing. Building with my hands man.
@chromosundrift
@chromosundrift Год назад
Respect. Mad skills. Thanks for publishing this inspiring adventure!
@apaskiewicz
@apaskiewicz Год назад
Just wow. Excessive overkill is right! This was inspirational. Thanks for making this video.
@robertboateng-duah9555
@robertboateng-duah9555 Год назад
Nice! I was thinking that you could make the robot run faster by changing the mosfets that originally come with the o-drive. something that can handle 300V. You might probably have to design a new PCB for that, but it shouldn't be a big deal. This is really amazing and inspiring work!
@VvvDoubleDvvV
@VvvDoubleDvvV Год назад
Thats some perseverance man gj getting this far
@SentientSpeckSeekingSapience
Great video! I wish I had enough electronics/software knowledge to really understand everything you presented here. With the right attachments for the end of the arm, this robot would be handy for automotive rebuilders (imagine being able to quickly and easily manipulate the position/orientation of heavy parts during disassembly/reconditioning/assembly). It could also replace a miniature crane in certain applications, especially if the robot was made mobile by some means.
@antontudor5724
@antontudor5724 7 дней назад
So much work. You deserve a brake from “what is wrong this time?” .
@toma.3d
@toma.3d Год назад
I wonder, why have i not seen this on LinuxCNC forums? Or did i ? 😃 Magnificent job on bringing the beast back to life!
@StripeyType
@StripeyType Год назад
HOLY MACKEREL. This is darn close to being an open source drop-in replacement for an R-J3
@JonWhitton
@JonWhitton Год назад
Thanks for sharing. An impressive debug and re-engineering project
@iewanvandenberg3972
@iewanvandenberg3972 2 года назад
love the video! I really want to make the jump from mills into CNC with robot arms like you.
@mathieufasquelle3159
@mathieufasquelle3159 Год назад
This is impressive ! Good job 👍🏻👍🏻
@ravindrareddy8536
@ravindrareddy8536 4 месяца назад
this is beyond impressive, good job
@marks7502
@marks7502 Год назад
the planned obsolescence of these huge indestructible machines is shameful.
@ravindrareddy8536
@ravindrareddy8536 Год назад
This is amazing who would have thought to use odrive on such a big robot, genius
@nico101
@nico101 2 года назад
Awesome video, im in the same project right now, but i already started the motor swap
@Clark-Mills
@Clark-Mills Год назад
Wow! Very nice work. Thanks!
@anderslarsson7123
@anderslarsson7123 3 месяца назад
Amazing project!
@RobertElderSoftware
@RobertElderSoftware 11 месяцев назад
This was a really great insight into the world of industrial robotics. I find it amazing how, in recent years, industrial machinery like this that could theoretically produce thousands or millions of dollars worth of product over its lifetime can be bought for the same price as a month's worth of groceries. The inflation rate of basic necessities has been far greater than the inflation rate of heavy machinery like this. It makes me think that a surprise North American manufacturing boom might be one of the things that can save our economy.
@rusticagenerica
@rusticagenerica 9 месяцев назад
Such an awesome video & channel !!
@benripka6977
@benripka6977 Год назад
Holy shit... Fantastic work. Thanks for sharing.
@mediasurfer
@mediasurfer Год назад
Excellent work, Sherlock!
@dougphillips5686
@dougphillips5686 Год назад
This is the best project on youtube!
@johnpaulperro
@johnpaulperro Год назад
awesome work man!
@toast47624
@toast47624 Год назад
Mad skills! Well Done!
@newt2010
@newt2010 Год назад
I used to work for an integrator and used Fanuc robots for 5 years. For the past 23+ years, I have worked for Motoman ( Yaskawa). You have your work cut out for you, since you don't have the matched controller for that arm. Great work and way to DIVE in. Look forward to watching your progress. Cheers
@MrWaalkman
@MrWaalkman 8 месяцев назад
Been a minute since I worked on a Motoman. Ours was so old that I ended up buying an old 1.3M pixel camera with a CF slot in it so I could format the card properly (Motoman required a different version of FAT12 which Windows no longer uses).
@osmininmaks
@osmininmaks Месяц назад
Впечатляющая работа! Я долгое время работал с похожими, в буквальном смысле, роботами - Hyundai Hi5, Hi5A.
@okiiPL
@okiiPL 11 месяцев назад
Great work!
@GameProgrammer79
@GameProgrammer79 7 месяцев назад
I am not sure if I understood the issues correctly but anyway was an interesting video from start to the end and it seemed the robo was working at the end.
@hibber2249
@hibber2249 Год назад
For the record, roboguide ships with all the controller firmware variations so you could have downloaded that and then restored from a virtual robot while using the trial version and saved yourself the custom driver but this is cooler
@instaboiidsg2117
@instaboiidsg2117 Год назад
Wow sick!!! Dude you are a genius
@avenuex3731
@avenuex3731 Год назад
Complexity of this sort is often due to layer caking solutions rather than working from first principles. Good luck on your project.
@Know-Way
@Know-Way Год назад
Nicely done.
@heyhoe168
@heyhoe168 Год назад
Best toy 30-years old boy could possibly get.
@PeteBrubaker
@PeteBrubaker Год назад
Also, thanks for increasing the cost of robots as I was considering buying a robot. :)
@user-yn2bc8hz2y
@user-yn2bc8hz2y Месяц назад
wow, great job keep it up
@max_eley
@max_eley 2 года назад
Excellent video!!!
@XoftC
@XoftC Год назад
Nice work!
@i_might_be_lying
@i_might_be_lying Год назад
Amazing project and rundown of Fanuc servo interface. Thanks a lot for the video!
@bnol03686
@bnol03686 Год назад
This is a crazy amount of work for a homemade fifi
@Cybertruck1000
@Cybertruck1000 Год назад
Massive credit to you for tackling that box of worms..
@CNC-Time-Lapse
@CNC-Time-Lapse Год назад
I used to work for FANUC North America. If maintained, these robots can last a looooong time. Industrial customers can order replacement parts directly from FANUC or an authorized FANUC dealer with a ZDT contract.
@nicholaszimmer663
@nicholaszimmer663 Год назад
I used that R2000 for mig welding at a factory. At floor level its only 4-5 feet tall. You could disable the machine guards to make adjustments. If you get in that things way, it will toss you like a rag doll. I'm 200 pounds!
@Roetz40
@Roetz40 2 года назад
Great Video!!
@juhotuho10
@juhotuho10 Год назад
This is insane!
@edencybernetic
@edencybernetic 7 месяцев назад
Amazing! I just saved a arcmate 100ib and r-j3ib controller with pendant from being scrapped. Id love to know exactly what 3phase converter and transformer you used, the vid still is hard to see. Wanting to use it for plasma cutting steel sheets if I can but am mega new to these robots. Any help would be appreciated. ❤
@TheFabricator03
@TheFabricator03 2 года назад
Great Job!
@geraldozambrinjunior4667
@geraldozambrinjunior4667 11 месяцев назад
Parabéns 😀🇧🇷 ! São poucos que têm seu conhecimento.
@vandliszt
@vandliszt Год назад
I am encouraged to buy one now.
@PeteBrubaker
@PeteBrubaker Год назад
Yo. 8:42. From 0 to hero right there. Nice work!
@beatrute2677
@beatrute2677 11 месяцев назад
channel name checks out.
@rafa_br34
@rafa_br34 Год назад
Damn, good job.
@matsworld9386
@matsworld9386 Год назад
seriously impressive ..
@themattrixrevolution
@themattrixrevolution 5 месяцев назад
i'm a cnc machinist and understand cnc code pretty well but understanding and overriding robotic arms is kinda the next level above me. i know these are usually noncollaborative robots and not even sure if these come with a pendant.
@douggjoseph
@douggjoseph 2 года назад
This is impressive.
@bapshago
@bapshago Месяц назад
Was contemplating taking on a similar project, now I’m a little nervous.
@BalloonSchool
@BalloonSchool Год назад
That looks so cool :)
@ricokonratt
@ricokonratt Год назад
Love your work! Thank you for sharing!
@iliketobuildstuff7013
@iliketobuildstuff7013 2 года назад
there is a fanuc post-processor for fusion online, I haven't tested it personally, as I still can't get communication from any computer to the rj3 controller on the robot working yet.. definitely an interesting project though, good on you having the patience to go through all this I would have just bought another robot (to be fair that is probably part of the reason our shop has 3 idle robots at the moment though)
@ExcessiveOverkill
@ExcessiveOverkill 2 года назад
I looked into the available post processor a bit, I wasn’t too confident it would work. The only way I had to transfer files to the robot was an ancient flash card.
@iliketobuildstuff7013
@iliketobuildstuff7013 2 года назад
@@ExcessiveOverkill yeah, my local fanuc guy has been awesome, and I talked with a few people online and go kfloppy all setup, but either my rs232 wiring or something else was never quite sorted so i didnt get file transfer working.. tbh its pretty far out of my element so wiring could very possibly be the problem..
@derekleclair8787
@derekleclair8787 Год назад
Seriously awesome!
@camilonavarro7943
@camilonavarro7943 Год назад
Really impressive
@brianwayne3029
@brianwayne3029 Год назад
You are a very ambitious young man! I used to work for FANUC as a field service engineer and your project would be so much easier with the correct software. Did you try to contact FANUC and give their support engineer the F number from the base of the robot? Tell them the controller F number and request an USB be sent to you. Don't tell them anything about this mad scientist stuff or they will not work with you. Just tell them that you bought the robot for educational and demonstrational purposes. The FANUC servo amplifier and controls are far more capable than any home built system. Kudos for getting anything to move safely. Yeah, don't mention that. Also don't talk about the disembowled control cabinet either. Siemens programmable logic controllers can interface with both a FANUC robot and also interface with Arduino controllers running Linux. Oh, using the FANUC servo amplifier allows collision detection which can prevent damage or injury from happening. Good luck to you and work safely!
@ExcessiveOverkill
@ExcessiveOverkill Год назад
I didn’t have any luck sneaking past Fanuc, even with the education school excuse, couldn’t even get manuals from them☹️
@Shadoweee
@Shadoweee Год назад
Algorithm has blessed You lol. Great video, You should post an update or something :) What did You plan on using it for? Just for fun?
@anam-0077
@anam-0077 7 месяцев назад
It's really owesome. It definetely needs a lot of time. Wondering java or c supports automation
@asnaeb2
@asnaeb2 2 года назад
Haha wtf I've used the ABB EGM interface and was already triggered on how much work it was to get it to run properly but this is a whole new level of external robot control
@srihari767
@srihari767 Год назад
You are awesome 💯😎 I have some experience in yaskawa 6 axis robot i can release how much effort you put on it.
@rusticagenerica
@rusticagenerica 9 месяцев назад
Guys who use a damn logical analyzer are just incredible
@Tokentools-weldersAu
@Tokentools-weldersAu Год назад
You have a massive brain - that is awesome :)
@Meekmakerspace
@Meekmakerspace Год назад
Is there gonna be more on this? I just purchased a arc mate 100i. I was planning on buying a matching rj2 controller and rewiring for 220v. With the thought in mind you can creat programs with the tech pendant.
@ExcessiveOverkill
@ExcessiveOverkill Год назад
Yeah I plan on revisiting it this spring/summer hopefully. It still needs a ton of work to be good though. As long as the controller has the software for that exact robot it should work, but they seem to be pretty picky.
@petermuller608
@petermuller608 Год назад
Impressive!
@chronokoks
@chronokoks Год назад
I always thought there is some dark magic involved in running such robots servos as the dynamics are complex and you need smooth motion, small following error and reduce things like harmonics and etc. I read up a book on servos and the math was quite heavy :D
@JoseJimeniz
@JoseJimeniz Год назад
What was even cooler, back when i worked at Fanuc, was the "float" mode. You can grab the end of the robot arm, and push it around. It will sense you pushing on it and "let" you push it. Obviously you're not strong enough to actually move it, but like a toddler holding your hand, it sense the tiny force you put on the arm and move in that direction. It's also quite impressive to watch the raw encoder values with with the robot sitting still, and just touch the end of the arm. The encoder is so precisce that it can register the imperceiptible movement you add.
@mytuberforyou
@mytuberforyou Год назад
This is very interesting- I am wondering what prevents making a program that accounts for the difference between kinematics set A (controller) and set B (actual robot)? There are off-the-shelf 6 and 8 axis kinematics modelers, maybe more, if you know the length of each offset in Robot A (the controller is programmed for) and B (shown in your schematic) I think it would be workable. Or at least possible.
@alexanderpettit2969
@alexanderpettit2969 Год назад
There are different communication methods between joints and the CPU on various robots, those require more work than simply translating between two vector spaces. These vary in timing, power requirements, and overall data architecture.
@BriannaJohnsonDazedAndConfused
Very cool.🤖
@tone3560
@tone3560 Год назад
I just bought two....anchored them in my garage 4 ft apart and I had them arm wrestle and the one loss because the anchor bolt came out of the ground.
@graealex
@graealex Год назад
What a rabbit hole...
@butterbaybiscuits8694
@butterbaybiscuits8694 2 года назад
Good robots, terrible company. Nice work!
@blinkbright
@blinkbright Год назад
Imagine programming one of those crazy industrial robots to play with a video game controller. Everything starts out quaint and innocent. But then the robot loses a life in whatever game it ends up playing, and the video ends with the robot violently bashing the controller and chucking it through a window. I genuinely think that'd be the funniest thing to watch!
@brainimplants
@brainimplants Год назад
Amazing work I love it thanks for sharing. I wonder if you gave up on the fanuc servo amplifier too easily. The optical fiber connection shouldn't be so difficult to tap into. Maybe it's just ethernet and you can wireshark the packets? Someone out there has information on that protocol.
@ExcessiveOverkill
@ExcessiveOverkill Год назад
I think it is some custom realtime protocol, I have a large capture of it saved from when the controller was still together. I'll add it to the github repo if anyone wants to have a go at it. I asked around all the forums and found zero mention of it.
@dgb5820
@dgb5820 Год назад
I got lost after 1 minute but pretended to be smart by continued to watch to the end
@cpergiel
@cpergiel Год назад
Video stalls at 8:14. This is the second day in a row. Skip ahead a few seconds and it plays normally.
@baggepinnen
@baggepinnen Год назад
Cool video, many thanks for sharing! Question, could you get Linux CNC to output computed-torque feedforward? That would likely improve the motion performance dramatically without having to increase the feedback gains.
@ExcessiveOverkill
@ExcessiveOverkill Год назад
Its really hard to get the feedforward values since you need to do the inverse dynamics of the whole robot to factor in gravity and acceleration on all the joints. I would like to eventually but it's a long way away
@baggepinnen
@baggepinnen Год назад
@@ExcessiveOverkill even a crude inverse model usually improves motion performance a lot. Friction is one of the most important things to compensate, having done that makes tuning the feedback gains much easier. A simple Coulomb + viscous model is easy to estimate from simple experiments and makes a big difference. Keep up the good work!
@kbdesignz5808
@kbdesignz5808 Год назад
For what it’s worth, when we calculated losses. IR2 , rotational drag, (bearings) and gear train loss . Summed up in “no load watts”.
@briansites8476
@briansites8476 Год назад
Great video. Where did desk chair come from?
@Petardozord
@Petardozord Год назад
Carefull with that.
@rexmundi8154
@rexmundi8154 Год назад
THIS IS AWESOME !!!
@fellpower
@fellpower 2 года назад
Well made. If u need another robot, i have a few...lol, but in germany
@zyxwvutsrqponmlkh
@zyxwvutsrqponmlkh Год назад
Very nice, if you can come up with a package that replaces the original Fanuc controller boxes I'm sure it would have a decent sized market.
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