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Running Android apps on another system than Android requires a container, like what Waydroid implements. Waydroid is based on LineageOS, based on Android 10, and can access any needed hardware. It can run Android apps on x86 or ARM cpus, it's fully open source, it can add your Android apps to your menu, it can display apps in their own windows or fullscreen, it can display the Android Ui for navigation, and has near native performance.
Waydroid lets you install .APK applications, which you can download online relatively easily, but to begin with, you might want to get an app store, which will make this process a lot simpler. Let's go with F Droid, which has tons of open source applications for Android, that will also work on Waydroid.
waydroid app install and then the path to your APK file, and hit enter.
You'll then have to restart the system service for Waydroid, using
sudo sysctemctl start waydroid-container
Your app should now be added to your applications menu, and you can open it through there. From F-Droid, you can install any application you want, and they'll also get automatically added to your applications menu. Of course, at first install, you'll need to enable installing applications from an untrusted source, like on a "real" android device.
You can also add the Google Apps and the Play Services.
I left a link to the install instructions, it's not an easy, one click install by any means, and you'll have to run multiple command lines, install a few packages on your distro, register your "fake device" with Google, clear the Play Store cache, install magisk and more. Once that's done, though, you do get a fully functional Android system, complete with Google apps, and the Google Play Store. You can login with your Google account, and use Waydroid as a full Android system.
App apps that require the Google Play Services will also work, including youtube, Google Maps, Gmail, and a lot more. You'll also be able to download apps you might already have purchased in the Play Store on an Android device, if you so choose.
I couldn't find certain apps in the Play Store, though, like Netflix for example, which might be a country-related issue. Some apps would also crash at startup, like Amazon prime Video.
Xbox Game Pass worked, I could navigate the UI and launch a game with Xcloud, but after that, games would just not display anything, sticking to a black window, which I had to quit to resume using Waydroid. My banking app also failed with an error message telling me the service wasn't available.
Twitter worked perfectly, Duolingo also did, although in Portrait mode.

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@TheLinuxEXP 2 года назад

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@SunIsLost 2 года назад

Yes

@mskiptr 2 года назад

what

@johannoas1 2 года назад

I wonder how it compares to Anbox I mean Anbox does more of a Wine not an emulator way afaik

@Logilype 2 года назад

bro you really just teleported closer to me in the end because i have sponsorblock

@molamola5260 2 года назад

NO.

@robotdowning963 Год назад

honestly one of the most frustrating things in the linux community is when asking if something works or how to get something to work being confronted with a "but why would you want to use that?". its a computer, a tool capable of so many different tasks so actually discussing if and how something works is always great to see. thanks for the great videos man!

@zonebro6205 Год назад

True dat

@doctahjonez Год назад

Literally this

@JoeMemes Год назад

people who believe they are superior to other people and making fun of them for not knowing what they know are not superior at all

@breakfast7595 11 месяцев назад

Yeah, as much as I hate Android, there are just certain things that are only available through android apps.

@neroetal 10 месяцев назад

well said

@gregory5749 2 года назад

Nick, just wanna tell you that Android doesn't use Dalvik anymore since Kitkat (4.4). It has been replaced with Android runtime (ART)

@carlod1605 2 года назад

@@adam.maqavoy What do you mean? I cannot understand your message

@EthanHalsall 2 года назад

Haha was just about to comment this 😂

@venvanman 2 года назад

@@carlod1605 well it is a note to self

@therealjesusofficialhd 2 года назад

But you are still (almost) always told in guides to wipe your dalvik cache in TWRP when flashing a ROM, even on Android 10+… Why?

@miruee 2 года назад

@@therealjesusofficialhd I'm interested in the answer for this question

@amansetia8655 2 года назад

i used waydroid on my terrible AMD A8 APU with radeon 5 graphics and 3.3GB RAM, and it was actually very good and did run the UI and apps fine af, waydroid is truly amazing

@TheLinuxEXP 2 года назад

Yeah the performance is incredible

@vaisakhkm783 2 года назад

@@TheLinuxEXP does it have any chance of working in raspberry pi... :)

@infernocrusher7573 2 года назад

@@vaisakhkm783 it works on ubuntu touch which also use ARM

@suryaiyer13 2 года назад

Indeed! I have the same terrible AMD A8 APU which worked fine for me for 4 years since i bought it but it was quite slow and lackluster. Then windows 10 updates since 2019 broke GPU drivers from AMD as well as HP's release drivers, then rolled back to windows 7 which was some reason buggy and would occasionally throw blue screen. Finally i gave Ubuntu a try and my laptop has become way useful again since then and was a good companion through COVID times.

@lthmltbgt3984 2 года назад

What is your distro? 3GB usually isn't much even for phone, i think

@cerealkiller69420 2 года назад

Streaming apps would never work because of lack of widevine drm support (which those apps use). Even if they could add support, it would probably be only L3 widevine meaning only 480p/540p. L1 widevine for 1080p streaming is extremely unlikely

@SunIsLost 2 года назад

Yea, it may take 100 years (maybe) to do that

@kote315 2 года назад

Yes, this is most likely the reason. The funny thing is, it's a shot in the foot. The services are trying to fight piracy, the side effect is that the services become unusable, which is why honest users abandon the services and ... download pirated copies instead.

@cromefire_ 2 года назад

This is probably not even the (primary) problem as Netflix for example should allow 720p on uncertified devices. Probably the bigger problem is Google SafetyNet that will detect Magisk and waydroid will also fail the Hardware attestation anyway and that's what most streaming apps, banking apps and apparently even McDonald's check.

@csolisr 2 года назад

Unfortunately the workaround involves, among other things, tricking the system into spoofing hardware authorization, which involves tinkering with the Anbox/Waydroid image file with tools like Magisk - good luck with that!

@michak.6325 2 года назад

Also heard that they won't work on x86 processors, so Netflix might not even appear because of your processor.

@PrecariousPosition 2 года назад

Just installed waydroid a couple minutes ago, what a timely video. Great content as always!

@TheLinuxEXP 2 года назад

Thanks :) Great minds think alike!

@YonatanAvhar 2 года назад

I'd love to see this project take off, imagine a future where your phone runs proper Linux, with a touch friendly UI, with support for all of the support Android phones get

@luigimaster111 2 года назад

We're almost there already, I loaded Waydroid on my Pinephone Pro, it has a glitch where you can't have hardware acceleration enabled, but it worked, got NewPipe running, it was very choppy, but it ran.

@YonatanAvhar 2 года назад

@@luigimaster111 very cool, how well does it work for apps like WhatsApp, Telegram, Moovit (navigation app, idk if it's popular outside of my country), and other apps that could be deal breakers if they don't work?

@m0r73n 2 года назад

@@YonatanAvhar You have the same limitations as any custom roms on a Android phone has and some apps might not work that well, its still experimental but it really looks promising

@luigimaster111 2 года назад

@@YonatanAvhar I really only managed to test NewPipe, waydroid as a whole was just too choppy without hardware acceleration for me to really view any further testing as necessary. Once that bug is ironed out I'll delve back into it. Others have got Waydroid working on the original Pinephone, and it may be the case that Waydroid doesn't get a lot of hardware access, so apps that use things like the GPS, Microphone, and Camera extensively might be useless. Also it prevents the phone from suspending while the service is running, so your phone chomps through battery even when the screen is off unless you kill that service. With that particular issue most messaging apps are kinda unusable. Also, removing Waydroid corrupted my Linux install for some reason, might have been user error but I can't fathom where I screwed up, couldn't get to a terminal at all so I had to do a fresh install. Still early days for linux phones, in terms of them being a fully viable alternative I think we are very close, possibly only off by a few years.

@ThePery123 Год назад

This gives me so much hope ❤🎉🎉🎉

@KuruGDI 2 года назад

_Installing an app and crossing your fingers that it is going to work_ - Well, that describes my experience so far with non-native apps on Linux in general

@naveendukiya8552 2 года назад

Some Comments - 1. <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="738">12:18</a> you don't need to start the service every time you boot your computer, just do "sudo systemctl enable waydroid-container" and it'll start on boot. 2. <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="743">12:23</a> I believe you can setup waydroid with a GAPPS image of android by running the init command with '-s GAPSS' option upon setup. It previously did not work on fedora I believe, but the copr maintainer just updated it to work today so unfortunate timing I guess. 3. Custom images of android don't pass play store's security test and also don't have widevine L1 certification. Media and Banking apps will either not show up in the play store at all or will not work properly as you experience. It is also not trivial to get around that.

@TKFeather 2 года назад

I thought about enabling the systemd service, but I wonder how heavy it is on your system resources... Keeping the Android system running constantly in the background must take quite a bit of RAM, I figured that's the reason why they don't enable the service on install

@naveendukiya8552 2 года назад

It is upto you thought. My point was that not being able to run ob boot was presented as a criticism.

@Uejji 2 года назад

Another comment pointed out that Android doesn't use Dalvik anymore. I also wanted to mention that Dalvik is not a Java virtual machine. Dalvik is a register-based bytecode virtual machine, while Java is stack-based. Dalvik was designed alongside the tool "dx" that converted Java bytecode into Dalvik bytecode. There has been a lot of a lot of misinformation about Android from the very beginning that it runs on Java or that it runs Java applications, but neither of these is true. You can write software for Android in a Java IDE (though now Kotlin is preferred), but that all gets converted to Dalvik bytecode before it ever touches an Android device. There's no reason why you couldn't write Android software in any other language, assuming the libraries and APIs you needed were ported over and the tools existed to compile it into Dalvik bytecode. On modern devices ART recompiles the Dalvik bytecode to native CPU binary code during installation, but still having Dalvik in the .apk allows legacy devices to still run your app. I guess maybe this sounds nitpicky, and I don't mean for it to. It's just that some brilliant engineers went to great effort to build a portable virtual machine designed to run on a variety of hardware and architectures without the bloat of J2SE or the limited feature set of J2ME, and it's a shame that everyone ignores what they accomplished and just calls Android "java-based."

@TazerXI 2 года назад

I think that this would be much better if it was: 1. A flatpak or something 2. In the settings, it has a place to add Google apps/comes with something like F-Droid by default. Having to open a terminal once means your app has failed at being user friendly imo. The terminal is great, but it should not be the only option to do something. There are exceptions to this, with things like more "pro" user tools, but a simple app/feature should be able to be done with a gui.

@TheLinuxEXP 2 года назад

Absolutely agree

@realtimestatic 2 года назад

Im not sure they can legally include an option to add google services

@Kiaulen 2 года назад

@@realtimestatic you can often get around something like that by just including a link to instructions.

@SkyyySi 2 года назад

You know this requires custom kernel modules, right? And they provide very clear instructions on what you have to do. If you want to do something like this which requires tinkering, but you don't want to use the terminal because... you can't read(?), I'm not sure where the issue lies. Of course, the terminal is inaccessible and all that stuff because apparently, zooming, screen readers, eye trackers, etc. don't exist... but really?

@cronchcrunch 2 года назад

@@SkyyySi Installing and using an Android app should not be seen as "tinkering" If any tinkering is involved you've already lost most people, which matters a lot of you want to have more than a couple hundred users to attract contributors and enough donors to make it worth spending your time on. Also using the terminal to access gui applications makes for a dogshit experience. Idk why you're so against people's opinions on what could be improved.

@lzlxleldorado8646 2 года назад

i think people must donate to this project this is so cool android support must be on linux and if android games worked like windows omg we could get more audiences more software more apps it should bee

@DivSharp 2 года назад

@@terrydaktyllus1320 WTH

@DivSharp 2 года назад

@@terrydaktyllus1320 I didn't understood your point. Running Android apps as Isolated apps in Linux how can it affect your privacy? It will be equivalent of having a Android phone. It can't get what your doing in your Linux. And yes it will collect data if only you installed Gapps in your Android. And yes it won't affect your privacy as I think apps installed in Wayland can't access your Linux data. If i am wrong correct me. 🤔 And about "English" I could see tha clearly.

@EeveeEuphoria 2 года назад

something I should point out is that waydroid works on pinephone, which is great since it increases the usability of Linux phones by a buttload

@Woodywoodah 2 года назад

I have a Microsoft Surface Go 2 running Fedora. This could be amazing for that device! I could have the power of a full blown Linux distribution and the convenience of Android tablet apps all in one.

@AninoNiKugi 2 года назад

Except there are barely Android apps optimized for tablets :P

@ThePery123 Год назад

@@AninoNiKugi lol or so you think, times have changed ever heard of the chrome book

@IhateCCP Год назад

i am installing this on my asus transformer mini. i also am running fedora.

@yuvrajsingh099 Месяц назад

@@AninoNiKugiGoogle,Oneplus,samsung, xioami , honor ,huwai all are selling android tablet. Don't you think google forced developer to make android and android apps run better on tablet.

@stephan6530 2 года назад

Some apps won't work on an x86 desktop because they are specifically built for arm / aarch64 architecture, but it should work on a Raspberry Pi.

@FrDismasSayreOP 2 года назад

One indirect benefit is accessibility: you can render it larger on a screen with lower resolution.

@Neucher 2 года назад

I tried waydroid on both an amd and intel gpu. Intel was almost perfect while on amd it was prone to stutters and micro freezes. Kinda funny since the latter is probably 10x more powerful.

@TheLinuxEXP 2 года назад

Yeah I had stutters on AMD as well

@talkysassis 2 года назад

AMD virtualization tools are not so good.

@ArunG273 2 года назад

Intel Linux drivers are superior.

@zPackss 2 года назад

Strange that it seems common I had no problems at all on amd, maybe architecture? I run it on a Vega 8

@talkysassis 2 года назад

@@zPackss The gpu has nothing to do with this. Is the Intel's ISA that's just better

@mirage809 2 года назад

This is a really cool system for running Android apps on the desktop, but you are totally right. The terminal is cool and go a million cool things, but it is something that the average person will shy away from. A flatpak/snap/appimage version with F-droid preconfigured and the kinks ironed out could be an absolute boon for developers and anyone else that wants to use Android apps on their computers.

@StaceyAyodele 2 года назад

Another awesome video. Keep up the great work, Nick!

@IanSlothieRolfe 2 года назад

My use=case for running Android apps on Linux would be to allow the random apps that come with so many gadgets these days, manufacturers seem to think that you don't mind filling up your phone with apps to configure your router, that remote security camera you might use every few months. It seems every bit of hardware, even ones that don't attach to a phone, have an app, and in many cases the app supports options that aren't available through other configuration routes, if there are any. This system looks promising, so maybe soon it may become a little more useable. It's definitely worth keeping an eye on - although I'd need Nvidia support given all my PC's and laptops have Nvida graphics....!

@IanSlothieRolfe 2 года назад

@@terrydaktyllus1320 If you'd watched the actual video, you'd see that the waydroid program currently doesn't work well with Nvidia video drivers, and its stated it works best with Intel video drivers.. This is discussed at some length, so maybe you need to watch the video again. Also, as an example I have a netgear repeater that recenttly I had to stop using because it can only be configured with the "app" because for some reason the web interface decided it was using an obsolete version of TLS. Unfortunately my phone is too old for the app to work properly, so its going to landfill. Yes, normally I would choose devices that contain standard configuration interfaces, but sometimes it would be nice to just run up the android version of the app if it were possible. In a "containerised" environment it might even be possible to tell if it is trying to "phone home", which would be useful information not available to you if you run the app on a phone. As to what video card I choose to use on my PC and Laptop, I would say that was my choice, and one I have made based on the experience I have had over the 18 years I have been using Linux and my main operating system, and the games and CAD systems I choose to use.. I suggest it is possibly you that doesn't know what they are talking about, respectfully or otherwise.

@IanSlothieRolfe 2 года назад

@@terrydaktyllus1320 maybe don't make assumptions about how other people use their systems and their time if you are trying to "help" them. . Nvidia drivers have always worked very well for me, I have used other video cards including AMD and Matrox, and they have had their benefits and problems. I have never had any problems with the software I use and Nvidia drivers so perhaps I am just lucky. You "assume" I use my video card for games but actually I only really play Minecraft and puzzle games which hardly stretch the GPU, mostly I use 3D CAD programs, KICAD, drawing programs, rendering suites that use the CUDA cores for acceleration and such, which is where I find the Nvidia cards work best for me. I did not contradict myself. You can sit through a video and not actually understand it, as you obviously missed the part where it said waydroid only worked well with Intel cards and then went off on some tangent about " What Android apps are you expecting to run on your PCs and laptops that would require NVIDIA support?" which had nothing to do with what I said. To explain it to you, the Android apps don't need the Nvidia support, Waydroid does. So perhaps you should watch the video again, and perhaps understand how waydroid works. Its in a container. If your only option is to use an app its possible that the containerisation would allow you to sandbox it and assess risks. You should know that. I use my computer to do things, so yes I don't always keep up with the latest in Linux. I am glad you do, although I feel sorry for your customers who have to face your judgemental attitude if your comments to me are anything to go by. I didn't suggest you didn't know what you were talking about because of lack of experience, I worked that out from what you said in your comments.

@IanSlothieRolfe 2 года назад

And where did I complain that "Every bit of hardware didn't work on Linux" - I very specifically was referring to Waydroid.

@Bronek0990 7 месяцев назад

Wait until you need the NVidia app for Android to configure your NVidia card.

@robertvideochannel 6 месяцев назад

You are a Genius. Your RU-vid ads are VERY well invested. More Amazing Topics i beg you < 3

@YonatanP2 2 года назад

Actually Netflix not appearing in the play store is a common problem with lineage os, the play store classifies your phone as "unprotected" and because Netflix fears DRM security it won't appear. However on my phone, installing a slightly outdated netflix apk works like a charm, I don't know about waydroid though.

@obvious_giraffe8386 2 года назад

Netflix playing hard to get when its hard to want

@rittalisa4916 2 года назад

Strange, I got no issue on Grapheneos maybe it's due to Google Sandboxing compare to the use of MicroG on lineage and many other ROMs.

@aperture0 2 года назад

@@obvious_giraffe8386 Netflix be like that cheerleader girl

@skelebro9999 2 года назад

That sponsor segment was smooth, Nick. Kinda reminded me of Linus a bit.

@notthedroidsyourelookingfo4026 2 года назад

Hey Nick, after watching your video on CLI apps, I already installed tldr, ranger, autojump and thef*uck, and they're really quite cool! Also, they're all in the fedora repos, so it was extremely easy.

@CIA_FOLLOWED 2 года назад

Great video,, very helpful as usual, thank you! Have you tried installing Outlook app, does it work? I cannot find any normal replacement for Office 365 client on linux and I was wondering if I will be able to use the android app.

@mircobandini 2 года назад

I installed Waydroid on ubuntu 22.04 but looks like internet is not connected. If i try to switch wifi on it will turn off right after. How could i solve ?

@jasnix 2 года назад

Interesting… the case for making the jump from windows to Linux is getting better. Wish the same was true for iCloud/macOS path, but small steps

@MaryamMaqdisi 2 года назад

Really good video Nick! I don't particularly care about running Android apps on my desktop but it's fun to think about it.

@eugenebelford9087 2 года назад

Great info! Thx! Will try that very soon. 👍 👌

@MaloryHovell 2 года назад

Does it consume ~800MB of RAM in the background like Windows Subsystem for Android?

@prakhars962 2 года назад

Hi Nick, I regularly watch your videos. Recently, my university offered remote connection to their computers via RDP. It turns out that they have RDP with MFA (Multi-Factor Authentication) which none of the Linux RDP clients support. In Windows its very easy, however, in Ubuntu none of the existing RDP softwares help me. Have you happened to come across such an app?

@arozendojr 2 года назад

do you know how to configure "adb connect ip-waydroid" ? So far I haven't been able to get it to work.

@PaperBenni 2 года назад

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="135">2:15</a> Dalvik was actually replaced by the android runtime vm in android 4.4 (damn, remember minor updates that were bigger than the major updates of today xD)

@prabhatmaurya6663 2 года назад

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="530">8:50</a> there is no need to do that long step to install gapps. Waydroid already has a image build with gapps. You just need to modify the init command as follows "sudo waydroid init -s GAPPS -f " and you are good to go. No need to run any extra scrips or blunders. 😉

@dnawalahmed2979 2 года назад

Or you can go with aurora services

@prabhatmaurya6663 2 года назад

@@dnawalahmed2979 yes but play store feels better.

@TheLinuxEXP 2 года назад

It didn't work, it told me the image disnt exist :)

@prabhatmaurya6663 2 года назад

@@TheLinuxEXP I have installed it almost 2 months ago maybe the dropped support for that.

@dnawalahmed2979 2 года назад

@@TheLinuxEXP THAT'S WHY AURORA SERVICES ARE BETTER (joking)

@kennystrawnmusic 2 года назад

Re <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="530">8:50</a> - Arch-based distros do seem to have a simpler way to get the Google apps installed in the form of the “waydroid-image-gapps” AUR package. But because it’s Arch-specific, not exactly something that users of anything else can take advantage of.

@cuikho210 2 года назад

It doesn't work on ubuntu 22 or pop-os 22, the python3-gbinder package is not supported yet

@ozrencupac 2 года назад

I think you could set up the waydroid service to start up automatically as part of the boot process

@t8db 2 года назад

Yea, that's just systemctl enable (rather than start. Just note enable doesn't start, but it does on reboot)

@hitorishinda5118 2 года назад

I don't think you'd want to always want to start the android emu at bootup, a better way in my opinion would be to add alias android='systemctl start whatever' In your ~/.bashrc in a new line so you can open it with a short easy to remember comman

@whydoyouaskdude 2 года назад

@@t8db just append - -now to the enable command and it will enable + start at the same time

@cyberp0et 2 года назад

Debian :)

@anon_y_mousse 2 года назад

Neat, and on the subject of the portrait mode apps, couldn't you just bind some shortcut keys to use xrandr and force the screen rotation?

@muhamadrizkyananda 2 года назад

If Waydroid can be installed in Win10's WSL too? Also if Waydroid can be keyboard mapped as well?

@sunnyleung7118 2 года назад

Last time I tried Waydroid it can not install ARM apks, and looks like it still do not have out of the box ARM emulation supported yet.

@wallyhackenslacker 2 года назад

Wasn't Dalvik deprecated with Android 5.0 and replaced with the Android RunTime (ART) java vm?

@TheLinuxEXP 2 года назад

Yeah, it was, my bad!

@silan2335 2 года назад

@@TheLinuxEXP Here is a good explainer-video on the difference between Dalvik and ART, since I also struggeld in the beginning with the differences: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-0J1bm585UCc.html

@muhammadusmankhan6761 2 года назад

Hey is there a key mapper to play games? i have a spare laptop with Intel graphics. I want to try games

@attomic5319 2 года назад

I'm excited for this to become more mainstream and polished. I can think of a lot of instances where the desktop versions of mobile apps are just much worse. I really hope this project grows into something much bigger and easier to use.

@bandito241 2 года назад

Sometimes there are not even desktop apps.

@euphanasia210 Год назад

Your videos are the s***! Topics, and production quality are insane. Thank you!

@FireDrage 2 года назад

If I'm not mistaken I think you can't find Netflix because it uses a kind of drm which waydroid may not emulate and therefore is not listed as it sees your "device" as incompatible. I am not 100% certain though.

@alankjohn9263 2 года назад

why do we have to start the service everytime cant it just be enabled using systemd?

@AP-kx4yw 2 года назад

Yes, you can: sudo systemctl enable waydroid-container.service

@SriHarshaChilakapati 2 года назад

I'm surprised it is working that way, mainly because Android uses Linux users and group IDs to contain applications in the sandbox. When you install an app, a new Linux user is created just for that app. Btw, Dalvik VM is dead a long time back. ART (Android Runtime) is it's replacement. Kernel is stripped of a lot of drivers as space is a constraint in mobile hardware and instead, pluggable drivers are implemented. Android device manufacturers will include drivers for the hardware that they are using. LibC is gone, partly due to un-needed extra functionality and mainly due to licencing issues. Instead, Google's own implementation called as Bionic (which offers a subset of LibC) is used. So there is still a long way to go on that part. One thing as an Android app developer I could make use of this, is to automate instrumented test cases for applications that I develop, which is possible if WayDroid exports the ADB interface, as often times, we would like to have these tests running in the CI/CD pipeline and it is hard to hook real devices there. We do have other working alternatives such as Roboelectric for that matter though, or we can simply mock Android APIs with mocking frameworks. Other than that, I don't see a proper need. If you are lazy to reach your device and would like to run your apps on system, then a better alternative would be to keep an actual device, and then mirror it to the desktop using Scrcpy, which is a FOSS tool. You get a window which mirrors your device, and your physical keyboard and mouse can be used to simulate touch events and key events there. Since the processing is going on a real device, you won't get into a ton of issues either. There is also a Flatpak for this one, which makes installation pretty easy.

@raoufbakhti7786 2 года назад

What is the distro you use in vid

@Hooorse 2 года назад

Very informative. Do you know an alternative android store, that supports payed apps/in-app purchases?

@averagearchuser Год назад

is there an alternitive for x11 I use an nvidia graphics card and kde doesn't like it

@PeterParker-ji8kg Год назад

Failed to get service waydroidplatform, trying again... i have this error, please help me. Thanks in advace

@JustByteMe 2 года назад

I love you man, I moved from manajro to fedora two months ago...loving it

@bit2964 2 года назад

Can you root waydroid with magisk so I can flash RU-vid Vance module?

@Zeioth 2 года назад

Hey very good video and waydroid is awesome! Still has some minor bugs (I had to disable hardware acceleration on 6700XT to make it work) but it already performs incredible. I think it has a very promising future.

@lala-jy4kz 2 года назад

I suggest to firstly use Genymotion on Linux. Although not opensource, it is very stable. We could patiently wait until a stable open source project. However, there is a kind of issue I could not solve. I want the emulated phone to scan the QR code on computer screen, with a virtual camera streaming the screen image. But I failed. Although there are many tutorials about this, I still could not configure it on my Ubnutu 20.04. You may ask why I need to sreaming the QR code? The QR code on my computer screen refreshes to a new image every 2 or 3 mintues. If you want to use an image file, you have to take a screen shot, transfer the file to the emulated phone, and select the image on the phone. This entire process is time consuming, you have to be in a hurry to scan the image before refreshing. The hurry behaviour makes the using experience terrible, and tortures your patience.

@obvious_giraffe8386 2 года назад

I just use scrcpy with a raspberry pi so i can use a phone (any without hdmi out) while it is charging and you have keyboard and mouse control over your phone

2 года назад

Really interesting, how does Waydroid compare to Anbox?

@rayanekch 2 года назад

certain apps don't work/show up in the play store because the system doesn't pass the safetynet check. idk if it passes by default on waydroid but it definitely won't pass with magisk installed. it can be bypassed easily with dedicated magisk modules

@ThatLinuxDude 2 года назад

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="598">9:58</a> I'm assuming this means Waydroid FAILS SafetyNet checks. SafetyNet checks usually partially fail in custom ROMs of Android, especially if a rooting module is present (and is not masked), and applications like Pokemon GO, the Play Store, and so on are said to use it to restrict application availability in the Play Store (and softlock the whole UI in Pokemon GO's case) at the developers' discretion. Therefore, Netflix wouldn't be there as it is a well-known case of an application in the Play Store set to hide on SafetyNet-failing Android devices. You can check SafetyNet's status by getting *SafetyNet Test* from the Play Store.

@magicpoopfart8363 2 года назад

Can I run this on M1 Macbook in a virtual machine?

@dylon4906 2 года назад

this is so perfectly timed. just last night I was wondering if there was a way to run the Xbox android app natively on Linux so I can talk to my friends on party chat while gaming. my current workaround is to run an androidx86 vm with my mic passed in but as you might be able to tell it kinda sucks. I also just so happen to be using wayland as well. I really hope this works

@vlad7269 Год назад

wallpapers? and what linux he uses?

@breadmoth6443 2 года назад

I hope so, I would like to have a pure linux phone - i only would need access to one or two android apps anyways, so if we can get proper support (not emulated) and it runs as fast as on android, i would love to switch to something like pinephone.

@fluqzy 2 года назад

What distro are you using and it is GNOME 42?

@AP-kx4yw 2 года назад

He uses Fedora at the moment.

@nathanlamaire 2 года назад

Have you tested some small games like Crossing Road? Does it work?

@csolisr 2 года назад

I keep having issues trying to run Waydroid on my Arch Linux installation with KDE. I managed to make it work... once, but as soon as I rebooted the computer, Waydroid was stuck in an infinite boot loop. What can I do to make it get unstuck?

@obvious_giraffe8386 2 года назад

Try scrcpy with any old android phone if you have a spare laying around

@Caellyan 2 года назад

I think a very good use case for waydroid is using it in conjuction with something like postmarketOS on actual mobile devices. That would allow us to run Android apps whilst not sacrificing privacy and functionality, like we're forced to currently with Android.

@Lumpology 2 года назад

Waydroid is running nicely on Ubuntu Touch

@Kalasklister1337 2 года назад

There are some pinephone pro videos on yt where they showcase functioning apps. The "only" hurdles that need to be fixed for acceptable use are 1. waydroid apps to work when phone is in standby mode (progress being made alreay) 2. fixing hardware acceleration (will enable graphics intense apps to be used as well, not just simple ones). I'm already sold on these being fixed in the coming months so i ordered my pinehone pro developer edition :)

@hotrodjones74 2 года назад

@@Lumpology This was my first thought. I'd like to get away from the Android Googleplex in a meaningful way on my mobile device, but some non-Google apps will be needed for daily usability. This is the missing link to a daily driver Linux-powered smartphone.

@amansetia8655 2 года назад

waydroid as flatpak would be awesome... but the kernel modules might cause issues, it would still not be one-click like other flatpaks

@SomeRandomPiggo 2 года назад

whats wrong with it being a normal binary?

@amansetia8655 2 года назад

@@SomeRandomPiggo it needs some kernel modules which aren't included by default and is also modular with variants like vanilla, gapps, magisk

@bereck7735 Год назад

Flatpak wouldnt actually work, as flatpak itself is a container, your container will not get root access to the host system, which waydroid requires, ( waydroid is also a container in itself ), there is an issue on the waydroid repository about flatpak support and currently its not feasible, as waydroid as a flatpak, would be technically a container inside a container.

@asamird 2 года назад

how about the chomebooks Linux beta function?

@josealejandroconcepcion2025 2 года назад

Its impossible to install it on Ubuntu 22.04, You get an error like this: "The following packages have unmet dependencies: python3-gbinder : Depends: python3 (< 3.9) but 3.10.4-0ubuntu2 is to be installed"

@_ianjms 2 года назад

Same error when I tried it on mine. Too bad Wayland is the default there..

@iamllux Год назад

This just makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside.

@valorix 2 года назад

I use X11 and I still can use Waydroid. All it takes is just using some nested Wayland compositor, like Weston for example. Weston runs in a window, so I don't even have problems with portrait-oriented apps.

@AnzanHoshinRoshi 2 года назад

Thank you, Nick. There are some great Android apps and it would be great for Linux adoption. But I don't think I'd use any.

@Durkhead 2 года назад

Could you use wine to run bluestacks?

@Bread-je6dc 2 года назад

What distro are you using in the video?

@TheLinuxEXP 2 года назад

Fedora

@haroonrehman8156 2 года назад

A Very Good Channel for the Linux Guys who want to see some features about Linux. You Always Upload very Good Content about Linux and show how interesting the Linux is.

@Durkhead 2 года назад

What does fyde os use

@PaperBenni 2 года назад

The setup process of waydroid is NOT solved by changing the packaging format. Given that it probably interacts a bunch with other parts of the system, the one thing that snaps, flatpaks and to some extent appimages are exceptionally bad at, it would probably decrease stability and speed by a ton. Most likely the devs couldn't be bothered because there are more urgent problems that need solving. A GUI setup using polkit is really easy and simple to implement, I'm guessing it will definitely happen as the project matures

@major505 2 года назад

is very usefull. Specially with stuff like authentication apps. Some apps like twitch are better to see the chat then the desktiop.

@teflon1882 2 года назад

Can I use this with Linux mint?

@AaronM-zh4ug 2 года назад

I was thinking maybe i could attempt to make an installer gui myself, but that would be quite the hassle since I'm a student with limited time and experience making this kind of thing.

@interceptor001 2 года назад

Could you make a video on how to install NVIDIA drivers on Fedora 36 once it releases? I am struggeling so much with this. They really need the one click install like ubuntu.

@chkashif167 5 месяцев назад

I have one issue with waydroid if you could help me please how can I upload video on facebook from my hard disk using waydroid please

@I_do. Год назад

Please help.I can't connect to wifi to run play store.

@davidwayne9982 Год назад

I'm trying out ANBOX but it won't work right either.... I've installed and RE- installed it-- CORRECTLY both times and it STILL won't work right. I"m tired of using my PHONE for the control---- PHONES are for CALLING--- and besides, I'm 67, one eye now and have trouble seeing the small phone screen correctly... need them on my BIG screen.

@jonathanh9585 2 года назад

Sometimes I want to play Minecraft bedrock with my sister without going back to windows 10 but I cannot have a buggy / early dev app in my computer unless it's stable and have all apps I want to download

@daddie212 2 года назад

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="605">10:05</a> this can be for the safetynet and selinux with magisk is solvable but it can't flash zip on waydroid

@technology-man 2 года назад

You don’t have to start the service on every boot you can systemctl enable waydroid-container

@patrickday4206 6 месяцев назад

What about running chrome os in a container and then using it for android apps

@Tachi107 2 года назад

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="221">3:41</a> worth mentioning that Andbox, the thing Waydroid is based on, works on Xorg <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="360">6:00</a> I get that you like universal packaging formats, but they are not the solution to everything... The convuluted installation process has little to do with the packaging format. Classic distro packages can automatically run the required command during package installation. Waydroid only needs to improve its packages, or better, shouldn't make it necessary to run "waydroid init" at all. Also, Flatpaks and Snaps are containerised formats and usually don't work well with containers manager themselves. It's just that Waydroid is still in development, that's all. <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="530">8:50</a> you should make it clear that that script installs a bunch of stuff that could be harmful to normal users, like Magisk (a root manager)! By the way, a more user friendly approach to installing the Google Play Services would be preinstalling a compatibility layer that would allow users to install the Play Store like any other app (kinda like GrapheneOS, a custom Android version, already does). No random, unsafe scripts involved :)

@harshsrivastava9570 2 года назад

1. unfortunately, anbox is severely dated, and for the most part superseded by waydroid (waydroid claims to be its successor) 2. waydroid init is what sets up the container itself and all necessary files, so making it execute automatically may be cumbersome, especially for power users 3. yup :)

@Tachi107 2 года назад

@@harshsrivastava9570 1. Yeah, but still better than nothing 2. I actually don't know much about how waydroid works. Is waydroid init supposed to be executed only once? If so, the installation script could run it automatically. If it had to be run on every reboot / every time you restart the container, why can't it be put in ExecStartPre= in the systemd unit? Why would it create issues for power users?

@schnitzelsemmel 2 года назад

both in competition to chromebooks and Android tablets / phones this could be huge.

@MysticMylesZ 8 месяцев назад

Can you run both wayland and X?

@gwgux 2 года назад

I haven't attempted to run Android apps on Linux since last year. Haven't heard of this project. Doesn't look any easier than Anbox, but it could be interesting to give it a go and see what my mileage is.

@MichaelSiejak 2 года назад

Fyi, Android apps no longer run on dalvik. Dalvik was replace with the Android Runtime a while ago

@Deniil2000 2 года назад

"Why would you need a mobile app on a desktop?" is such a wrong mindset. Ideally, there should be an operating system that runs on everything, that will allow you to install same apps across all of your devices, be it mobile/tablet/laptop/desktop. FuchsiaOS is an interesting contender in that direction, its smart and well-designed Flutter-based UI API can make any apps automatically conform to the available screen size on any device. Isolating computing expiriences just because they are "desktop" doesn't make sense, we should strive towards same computing expirience on all devices.

@schnitzelsemmel 2 года назад

that was basically the idea of Java back in the day as well. problem is that you stiöö have to implement all the apis properly and it obviously comes with a performance hit. but with Android apps now running on windows, windows apps on Linux, web apps running html/js and even some Linux tools that run on termux Android, we are coming closer to a world where the OS doesn't matter

@engelsteinberg593 2 года назад

Why clutter the Desktop with shitt Mobile bullshit.

@engelsteinberg593 2 года назад

And Fuschia is pretty bullshit a lot of diabolic architecture.

@ChristianYoga 2 года назад

@@engelsteinberg593 Well, because not every application available for PC.

@Deniil2000 2 года назад

@@engelsteinberg593 If app is mobile, it doesn't mean that it's automatically going to be shit on desktop. It depends on implementation, there are many UI frameworks that allow developing adaptive interfaces that look great on mobile and desktop screens. We should strive towards unified computing, the fracture between desktop and mobile that we have today is not a good thing.

@raviolimavioli 2 года назад

You can run Waydroid in X11, you have to install "weston" first and run Waydroid inside weston container, it's just 3 simple commands

@ifelseprog 2 года назад

I love that you searched for Lorient in Google Maps, my grandma lived there before. I wasn't ready to see you search for a French city, lol

@TheLinuxEXP 2 года назад

Hahah I live in Brest, it's pretty close to it!

@ifelseprog 2 года назад

@@TheLinuxEXP oh, that's funny!

@marcely1199 2 года назад

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="735">12:15</a> Couldn't you just run "systemctl enable waydroid-container" to make it auto start with each reboot

@mikeymayhem_ 2 года назад

is this what they're using for OSes like Plasma Mobile? I actually really want to try it out

@AP-kx4yw 2 года назад

No, Plasma Mobile is just a desktop and not an OS. Waydroid isn't used by any mobile Linux distro at the time I think.

@mikeymayhem_ 2 года назад

@@AP-kx4yw oh yeah I gotcha

@henningdahl7908 2 года назад

Hi. Mozilla choosing to go in Microsofts footsteps. If Firefox is running when updating you are forced in to restarting Firefox to continue surfing. I want to deside myself when to restart. Anything! Someone should really adress this! Please do.