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Running Windows 3.1 in Windows 95. 

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** README.TXT **
Hi! Today I'll demonstrate a cut feature of Windows 95. During development, Windows codename Chicago gave the ability to the user to run Windows 3.1 in a virtual machine, with the possibility to switch from a desktop to the other. I'll show here how you can bring this functionality back in Windows 95 and I'll try with later Windows releases.
📦 Resources:
• Raymond Chen's blog post:
devblogs.microsoft.com/oldnew...
• David Simunič's blog post:
blog.krnl386.com/index.php?po...
• frhed Hex editor for Win9x & NT4:
www.win3x.org/win3board/viewto...
🎵 Music used in this video:
• Alexander Brandon - Bounds of Foundry
(from the Unreal OST)
• NIGHTDRV.A2M
(from the Adlib Tracker II sample songs)
www.adlibtracker.net/
• pentrexil.mod
modarchive.org/module.php?81049
🎬 Chapters:
00:00 Remains of the Windows 3.x shell
02:06 The Windows 3.1 VM
02:42 Bringing the thing back
05:52 Demonstration & limitations
07:19 Trying with Windows 98SE & basic games
08:53 Trying with Windows ME
09:24 Trying with Windows NT

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Комментарии : 112   
@charliebrmg
@charliebrmg 8 месяцев назад
At 3:05 you mention the files needed for the VM to run are from "build 326", but I think that you meant "build 328". Just want to make you aware of a subtitle mistake. Salutations dès l'Espagne :)
@druka-grey
@druka-grey 8 месяцев назад
Hi! Whoops, didn't caught this mistake... And indeed meant build 328. Gracias ;)
@BilisNegra
@BilisNegra Год назад
This is something I certainly did not know about. Quite an interesting and original topic to make a video about, congrats!
@CapTVchilenaShootingStarMax
I didn't know about this! Thank you for this very interesting video (additionally, I really like seeing non-English versions of software).
@soviet9922
@soviet9922 Год назад
640 by 480 in 16 colors is ok, is the resolution that GOD order to be use.
@salamiwallnut
@salamiwallnut Год назад
if you know you know
@NYXsucksatyoutube
@NYXsucksatyoutube Год назад
Temple os
@2013Windows81
@2013Windows81 Год назад
That's awesome + underrated content
@Chris47368
@Chris47368 Год назад
Fascinating video! You earned a subscriber! 🙂
@luis-ranma
@luis-ranma Год назад
How cool are these videos! 💙
@Paolog_
@Paolog_ Месяц назад
Super vidéo !!! Je savais pas du tout qu'on pouvait faire ça
@a4e69636b
@a4e69636b Год назад
Your video is very polished. Thank you for it.
@Nas_Allie
@Nas_Allie 9 месяцев назад
How I feel old but kinda privileged that I’ve got to experience computers as they’ve evolved
@eugiblisscast
@eugiblisscast Год назад
Hi there! Keep up the good work 🎉🎉🎉. I find your easily removable hard drive bays to be incredibly smart 🤣
@druka-grey
@druka-grey Год назад
Thanks ! They are relatively easy to find on the flea market where I live. Very handy for sure !
@OctoomyYTOfficial
@OctoomyYTOfficial Год назад
not bad! EDIT: holy god I love that front swap tray on that second computer you pulled out.
@druka-grey
@druka-grey Год назад
Hey thanks ! I Have a few of these, very handy when you want to hop to another OS on the same machine.
@OctoomyYTOfficial
@OctoomyYTOfficial Год назад
@@druka-grey yeah, always thought that drive sleds on systems like that are neat, I have a few computers that I constantly swap drives out of because I test certain sets of hardware and software sometimes. That would be pretty nifty to have.
@SGvagon
@SGvagon Год назад
I didn't know, that I have this channel in my subscriber list :D .
@HisShadowX
@HisShadowX Год назад
I found this years ago on Windows 95 I thought it was a pretty cool find
@SBTKostya2008
@SBTKostya2008 Год назад
Wait, en français?
@Nathan123Bhi8
@Nathan123Bhi8 Год назад
C’est excellent !
@backmaskingklocucha1262
@backmaskingklocucha1262 Год назад
Omg he's back
@RetroTechChris
@RetroTechChris Год назад
Cool. I discovered this a month or two back and wrote a tutorial on it.
@DoctorLemon
@DoctorLemon Год назад
Great video, are you going to make more?
@flaguser4196
@flaguser4196 7 месяцев назад
very interesting! I wonder if it can work on top of winevdm on win64
@OmPuter
@OmPuter 7 месяцев назад
Windows 3.1 is a legend... reminds me my childhood.
@itsfastman1782
@itsfastman1782 6 месяцев назад
so you're.. that old? lol
@MatusA-gi5ob
@MatusA-gi5ob Месяц назад
That guy mastered the use of a PC without a mouse
@_lun4r_
@_lun4r_ Год назад
I'm interested to see if Windows 3.11 can run on this backwards compatibility layer Edit: It can, mostly any version of 3.1 will run. 3.1, 3.11, 3.11 for workgroups, it will all work Also notice that the actual latest build with the feature still available was Build 328, specified in BetaWiki.
@fnjesusfreak
@fnjesusfreak Год назад
It kinda looks like how OS/2 1.3 emulation was implemented in NT.
@AskHateYourself
@AskHateYourself Год назад
The Vintage era is Back!
@purplepeak8575
@purplepeak8575 Год назад
Hell yeah! I recently learned about Legacy Update now I no longer have to tear my hair out to get the old updates to work!
@What00054
@What00054 Год назад
Very interesting..
@fattomandeibu
@fattomandeibu 3 месяца назад
The Progman trick works all the way until Windows XP SP1, with the Progman.exe being replaced by a dummy file that no longer functions when you install SP2.
@MateusFB
@MateusFB Месяц назад
Please post more videos!
@MidoseitoAkage
@MidoseitoAkage Год назад
Joli arrière-plan. 👍
@druka-grey
@druka-grey Год назад
Merci ! si tu parles du premier, c'est un truc que j'ai fait : www.deviantart.com/druka-grey/art/wallpaper-zip-910525772 Le second est trouvable ici : wallpapersafari.com/w/zR0IAa
@MidoseitoAkage
@MidoseitoAkage Год назад
@@druka-grey Oui, c'est en effect le premier. C'est trop mignon.
@Angelgreat
@Angelgreat Год назад
What pc and removable hard drive bay did you use?
@druka-grey
@druka-grey Год назад
Hi! The first machine is an IBM PC 350 (Model 6587), Pentium P54CS @ 200MHz, 144MB of RAM, Voodoo Banshee 2, Yamaha Audician 32 sound card with a DreamBlaster X2 wavetable. The second computer is a custom build that ran, at the time of the video, with an Acorp 694XT1 motherboard saved from the recycle bin, a Pentium III 900/256/100, 512MB of RAM, a GeForce 2MX GPU, and a Creative Audigy 2 sound card. As I got some issue with it for the next video, I changed the motherboard for a Gigabyte ga-60mm7e and upgraded the cpu to a Pentium III 1000/256/133 (As it turns out, the motherboard was not the issue). The hard drive bays are generic "Super Rack" IDE sets that are quite common on the flea market here :)
@berndpfe
@berndpfe Год назад
windows NT won't probably handle that.. because of its virtual DOS machine (as there is no longer a real dos 16bit platform running underneath, so everything requiring direct hardware access semantics on its own, and not via NT's HAL, will fail to do so (these dualmouse drivers e.g., since .DRV and .386 drivers are not using that since relying on legacy hw access strategies). And Windows NT has lots of 32Bit stuff already, except for maybe UI elements (like in these 3.5 versions, which still looks like Windows 3.1). Windows NT might also require to be installed on a FAT16 filesystem, not under NTFS of course.
@dark-mode.
@dark-mode. 11 месяцев назад
Great video! BTW, what editor is that?
@druka-grey
@druka-grey 11 месяцев назад
Glad you liked it! Frhed is the name of the hexadecimal editor I used to modify the win31 executable. v1.0.154 is compatible with 9x, link is in the description. HxD is another hex editor that some version might be run on 9x too ;)
@dark-mode.
@dark-mode. 11 месяцев назад
@@druka-grey Sorry, I meant video editor.
@druka-grey
@druka-grey 11 месяцев назад
Oh my bad. I'm rendering the subtitles and cards by hand with inkscape and I'm putting everything together with blender's video sequence editor.
@dark-mode.
@dark-mode. 11 месяцев назад
@@druka-grey Wow, didn't think blender would be a good video editor. Good luck on your channel!
@druka-grey
@druka-grey 11 месяцев назад
@@dark-mode. Definitely not easy at first I must admit. Thank you very much
@MotownBatman
@MotownBatman Год назад
Pushing 40 this Year Growing up I always found trashed parts or went to flea markets around Detroit MI once I figured this out in Win 9x I Immediately did it: I always hated how it wouldn't Minimize to an Icon
@winexperiments
@winexperiments Год назад
I remember watching this video in 2021! (or at least, similar to it). Where did it go?
@druka-grey
@druka-grey Год назад
Hi! Indeed, this is a remake of what you've seen in 2021, before I unlisted my videos and put the channel on hiatus.
@winexperiments
@winexperiments Год назад
@@druka-grey Oh nice! I really like the music you use as well. (the first one you used here was used as the second one in the 2021 video lol)
@MSWinNT
@MSWinNT Год назад
​@@druka-grey Do you plan on making more content?
@mats520
@mats520 4 месяца назад
Unfortunately, this wouldn't work on a single Windows NT operating system. That's a black bummer.
@Preinstallable
@Preinstallable Год назад
Perhaps running 3.1 could work in NT releases if NTVDM is used
@druka-grey
@druka-grey Год назад
In fact, If you pause the video at 9:52 and carefully watch at the title bar, you'll see that this is run through the NTVDM ;)
@MSWinNT
@MSWinNT Месяц назад
​@@druka-greyI think it's very obvious that you Windows will give an error message instead of enter dos mode if ntvdm isn't there.
@buzzbang9164
@buzzbang9164 Год назад
internet exploree canbe used?
@druka-grey
@druka-grey Год назад
I don't know if networking or even sound could work here, I haven't considering trying given the limitations.
@mattisanidiot
@mattisanidiot Год назад
What was that script in windows 98 and windows me?
@druka-grey
@druka-grey Год назад
All of my old computers are connected to a domain run by a Windows Server 2003 machine. When a user logs in, a custom script is triggered to mount the network shares automatically (with the NET USE command), and a pop-up informs the user that a script is being executed.
@mattisanidiot
@mattisanidiot Год назад
@@druka-grey ahh thanks man
@Droopy95mkDS
@Droopy95mkDS Год назад
Même sous Windows 98 ? Ohooo j'vais me faire un plaisir.
@druka-grey
@druka-grey Год назад
Oui ! Je n'ai pas rencontré de soucis, à part quelques rares glitches graphiques de l'interface dans 98 et ME. Je n'ai pas trouvé de réel utilité comme il y a beaucoup de limitations et que les apps de 3.x fonctionnent généralement bien sur 95 et 98, mais ça reste un truc à essayer :p
@Droopy95mkDS
@Droopy95mkDS Год назад
@@druka-grey oui, pour le trip de pouvoir ouvrir un OS dans un autre avec quelques manips intéressantes à faire quand on apprend à utiliser Windows plus en profondeur
@mahdihanif1393
@mahdihanif1393 9 месяцев назад
But still named "return to windows 95" in any windows version
@druka-grey
@druka-grey 9 месяцев назад
Yes indeed, the string is hardcoded into the "WIN31.EXE" executable, but the last two characters could easily be changed to "98" or "ME" ;)
@tomyyoung2624
@tomyyoung2624 Год назад
And... Yerpe! Windows nt will yes handle that.
@PotatoPCGamerz
@PotatoPCGamerz Год назад
Anything under NT is not gonna run W3.1 because 3.1 is based on the 9x and not NT
@superJK92
@superJK92 Год назад
actually 3.1 is DOS based as it was released before window 9x Windows 95-ME were windows 9x based and windows 9x was DOS based
@thelmagutierrez1
@thelmagutierrez1 11 месяцев назад
@@superJK92 bruh
@superJK92
@superJK92 Год назад
now to run windows 95 in windows 3.11
@sm-ftve
@sm-ftve 19 дней назад
What remains from the Program Manager on Windows 98 is just an empty interface with full nothing at all, so it's pretty clear that the Program Manager became a useless thing as more versions of Windows come out.
@laurikleemann4575
@laurikleemann4575 Год назад
i ran 95 in nt 3.51 with dosbox
@milasudril
@milasudril 5 месяцев назад
DoxBox is a complete PC emulator. If it runs in DoxBox, it runs on anything that supports DosBox.
@catwacatwa
@catwacatwa Год назад
why was the video not english
@druka-grey
@druka-grey Год назад
Because I'm not.
@drakmatheism
@drakmatheism 8 месяцев назад
So you're french. C'est curieux.
@simplydoggies
@simplydoggies 6 месяцев назад
Will it work on 98 se
@WalnutSpice
@WalnutSpice 2 месяца назад
@15Volts bro did not
@WalnutSpice
@WalnutSpice 2 месяца назад
unrelated i wonder if it works on NT 4? 🤔
@ricarnuninho80
@ricarnuninho80 Год назад
Win 3.1 can't work on Windows NT or on Win 2000 or on Win XP 😂🤣🥰🤣 because NT, W2000 and XP don't have the *native* MS-DOS support. 🙂😉
@jan99642
@jan99642 Год назад
Windows 95 is not NT
@ricarnuninho80
@ricarnuninho80 Год назад
@@jan99642 Yeah. Windows NT 3.1 doesn't have native MS-DOS option for quit Windows because NT has "Shutdown..." only (not "Exit Windows..."). 😉
@djibrilgamingrobloxx2yt
@djibrilgamingrobloxx2yt Год назад
1981-1996💀💀 Windows 1.01 was created in 1985💀💀
@sillycado
@sillycado Год назад
MS-DOS:oh so uh yea why im not here?
@absalomdraconis
@absalomdraconis Год назад
WinXP would be interesting, but probably another failure.
@dylanash2569
@dylanash2569 9 месяцев назад
2000(NT 5.0)/XP(NT 5.1) are both based on the NT kernel so this is impossible with virtualization software
@judgewest2000
@judgewest2000 5 месяцев назад
Nah this is black magic!!!
@petitscratchcat
@petitscratchcat Год назад
c francais et écrit en anglais ? xD
@druka-grey
@druka-grey Год назад
Oui, je me disais que je toucherai un public plus large avec des vidéos en Anglais. J'espère pouvoir proposer des sous-titres en Français prochainement.
@loganiushere
@loganiushere Год назад
@@druka-grey as an English-speaking* viewer you’re right (also hooray for google translate)
@petitscratchcat
@petitscratchcat Год назад
@@druka-grey ok oui sa serait bien même si je connai l'anglais assez bien.
@hmwndp
@hmwndp 4 месяца назад
​@@loganiushereLocation USA... fake.
@loganiushere
@loganiushere 4 месяца назад
@@hmwndp?
@user-db8mr1py6x
@user-db8mr1py6x Год назад
Why windows 95 is Spanish!?!?!?!?!
@me67galaxylife
@me67galaxylife Год назад
It’s french you caveman
@steve_1507
@steve_1507 Год назад
I think it actually is in France
@IakovosTsagaris
@IakovosTsagaris Год назад
its french
@sillycado_
@sillycado_ Год назад
Its french
@rockpie.squashfs
@rockpie.squashfs 8 месяцев назад
Its french (let's start an "its french chain")
@tableta9710
@tableta9710 Год назад
why is it in spanish
@retrics1001
@retrics1001 Год назад
it’s.. in french bro
@ii_Spectre
@ii_Spectre Год назад
​@@retrics1001that doesn't really matter he's just asking why
@retrics1001
@retrics1001 Год назад
@@ii_Spectre it’s possibly the creators native language
@BilisNegra
@BilisNegra 5 месяцев назад
@@ii_Spectre Doesn't matter? Really? What kind of person mistakes French for Spanish? It would be understandable if it was Portuguese instead of French.
@NazmusLabs
@NazmusLabs Год назад
this is so cool. I had no idea about this, SubhanAllah! May Allah (S.W.T.) guide you and bestow upon you His Blessings; Ameen.
@Albaraa
@Albaraa Год назад
Ameen
@MrGencyExit64
@MrGencyExit64 7 месяцев назад
No, none of that looks familiar. It's in an alien language I've never seen before.
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