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Brilliant quote

​@@noblerees1brings to mind the Second Doctor speech, there are some corners of the universe....

Funny because that serial is so political agenda.

@@mayotango1317 not as in your face as today nor was it full of waffle and faffing about

there is a tales from the tardis that says he has evoled in to a god well they say titan i think but yeah when he made the shalka doctor conan ithink that was the moment when he made it clear conon meens nothing any more i really hate that yes the conon had a lot of holes but instead of just acting like conon means nothing he should be trying to explain them i really hate he thinks he can just do what ever he wants nowi really am mad at rtd

Another moment of madness Lee I agree. I could have gone through all 217 stories he’s now wrecked

I'm still wrapping my head around how he ended up on the tardis in the first place. I may be wrong as its been a fair few years since i saw pyramids of mars but i was not under the impression that the rainbow tunnel had anything to do with the time corridor the tardis passes through. Am i right in thinking the tunnel was just a link from earth to mars and was a completely different concept?

@@charg1nmalaz0r51 the rainbow tunnel was a time corridor linking Earth and Mars. It had nothing to do with the Vortex, it was completely different. Also, Sutekh was dead before the TARDIS ever left the cellar. The whole thing is a complete lie and attempted retcon by Davies.

@charg1nmalaz0r51, the rainbow tunnel linked the place Sutekh was being held in Egypt to the sarcophagus in England. Sutekh never touched the TARDIS.

@@mancyank564 I know! It's utterly R*T****D.

Absolutely

I try not to cancel any episode but RTD has now made that talk impossible - Davros?

@@noblerees1 I don't unnecessarily cancel stuff either. I was perfectly willing to accept Whittaker as the Doctor, even if I felt she was (at the time) the worst possible Doctor. I would've just accepted it as a low point for the series and moved on. But then Timeless Children happened, and pretty much everything built on that rock is going to have to eventually get retconned one day, so there's that.

I respect that and honestly it wasn’t a dig at you, I think you made a wise choice

Good one!

It’s a shame isn’t it when he has a keen dr who fan like you who feels ostracised by his work? He’s too In yer face. We will do mark of the rani tomorrow at 7pm snd best worst moments of 9th dr

Doctor Who is the soft sci-fi

Yes the crime is bbc RTD and Disney are seeing dr who as just a commodity to make the most merchandise money out of

We could have a fun time throwing these quotes back at RTD

"25 years of having smoke blown up your ass about how wonderful you are - that's what it takes to be really delusional!"

Funny because Robert Holmes also never care about continuity cof The Two Doctors cof

@@mayotango1317 True... but to be fair to Robert Holmes... some of the continuity (specifically the 2nd Doctor's continuity) issues in "The Two Doctors" had already begun in "The Five Doctors" written by Terrence Dicks. Once they reached the Dark Tower, Doctor #2 and the Brigadier encounter spectres of Jamie and Zoe... and the 2nd Doctor reveals information that he can't possibly know... because in "The War Games", immediately after the Time Lords erased Jamie and Zoe's memories of their time with the Doctor and sent them home... the Time Lords forced him to regenerate. And yet, there the 2nd Doctor is at the UNIT reunion (without his companions). Taken in conjunction with "The Two Doctors" a fan theory emerged of an previously untold Series 5B... where - for a time - the Time Lords used the 2nd Doctor (and Jamie and perhaps Zoe) to run errands for them... before they erased his companions memories, sent them home and forced him to change into Jon Pertwee. Whether that theory has become canon or not... it works for me. The FOB to recall the TARDIS... I have no explanation for that. If the 2nd Doctor had it why doesn't the 6th Doctor have one (maybe the Time Lords gave it to him while he was conducting their business... and took it away again once his service was over... and that technology is not something he could fabricate on his own)? And even with Holmes' "The Brain Of Morbius"... I know he had (at one time or another) said those other faces in the "brain battle" were pre-Hartnell Doctors (something that never got confirmed or followed up on before "The Timeless Children")... but I always thought they were Morbius' faces. I still think that's what they were.

No, he hate violence.

I would have hoped and expected that on his wage he would have revised his ideas from aged 15 till now

Well done for spotting him out so early

I was the same, after series 1 someone who'd been paying more attention to the writers than me pointed out the one's I was complaining about were all his (and the two I loved the most were from the same writer as my favourite sitcom). After Love and Monsters I was broken, I waited for my parents (who'd been watching since 1963 - and made it through season 24 so they had more staying power than me) to say if an episode was worth watching (spoiler alert it was Human/Nature/Family of Blood and Blink). I didn't start watching every episode again until series 5. Sadly they finally, after 60 years, gave up after the Christmas special so I had no one to vet the latest episodes. If I had I'd have known not to watch anything but Boom.

@@noblerees1 I am glad I did. I wasn't the only one though, there were many others that also never accepted his version of the show. I went through all this death of Doctor Who acceptance years ago, but it is always sad what these people have done to the show..

My take: RTD never really brought back Doctor Who. Doctor Who had been more or less a full family show, slightly more geared for young boys. What RTD "brought back" was a cheap romcom for teen girls, with 3 "boyfriend Doctors" to keep their attention. The moment a Doctor actually resembled one of the older Doctors with Peter Capaldi, a lot of those newer female fans dropped off all of a sudden, go figure.

I had him sussed before he took over. Anyone who read his New Adventures novel knew what was coming (ironically panned by DWM)

That is a coward idea.

Mixed messaging and sometimes very badly tossed in to plot

That's the problem with hypocrites. They fail to realise how stupid they look to everyone else.

Oh good lol

No quality at all

Just imagine it’s an illusion like the fake trial in The Trial Of A Time Lord.

Spitefiction.

You have a fan base for that sentiment

Yep - all Nu-Who is fan-fic to me now after RTD2. I wasn't even a huge fan of RTD1.

@Problembeing "This current cultural vandalism is not Doctor Who and has absolutely nothing to do with real Doctor Who". My exact feelings.

1963-1989 if we're going to be doing that. It ended with 7 giving a nice speech and telling Ace they had some work to do while walking into the proverbial sunset. Not with 8 sucking Grace's face

@@stevenedwards8353 hahaha. I was erming and umming whether or not to include McGann. I did like his Doctor, didn't like the movie much. But sure, I can work with it or without it. Maybe reboot it and bring him in as an unknown Doctor in a rebooted universe. Start again.

That’s the key issue I agree. It’s been almost a decade of real denting of the lead hero character . Sadly your conclusion is correct too

It if they don’t learn from the failure or it’s cancelled.

Join us for mark of the Rani 7pm tomorrow night

Creator of NuWho and major influence and final say on how classic is viewed.

True.

We can guarantee soap we can be sure of that

That sound like Series 2.

Yes we have given that an easy time - the master. We shouldn’t

Good point

"Retcon" is the wrong word since The Three Doctors fully established that anyway prior to Morbius.

@@codyw1 I'll have to rewatch Three Doctors again soon, it's been years. But at any rate, I mention episodes that take place after Brain of Morbius because as you know, these people will probably try to say "well yeah, Brain of Morbius comes after Three Doctors so it changed it".

Custodian of dr who darling! Really?

You got it right

Yes that is so acknowledgement from RTD that they screwed up because of timing or budget

He would have read ruby’s mind and he knows the tardis inside out and controls it - that’s what he said

They defeated him with K-9’s whistle and lead. Get down, Sutekh! Heel!

The quality is in the gutter

It's lower than the gutter. It's in the sewer.

Sorry but the ratings excuse is lame, because the episodes are watch by streaming first.

I bet he didn't appreciate his paws and muzzle being painted pink in The Happiness Patrol either. The fact he's just been chilling on the Tardis all this time is kind of hilariously ridiculous when you put even the smallest amount of thought into it.

Yes he had sinister moments

Roberts Big Finish audio Master stories are great. He’s really unsettling as the Master when written correctly.

@@slumdogjay That's the thing, he's gotta be cool, calm, and collected, eventually leading to maniacal. I find Nu Who went straight to maniacal.

@@robbiebonham Indeed. Everything about New Who is over the top.

@@slumdogjay I'm not saying the actors involved in recent years weren't entertaining, but the character lacked subtlety / build up.

Wrecking ball media execs

@dazblue5515 Inserting politics is one thing. Lots of episodes of Doctor Who, Star Trek, etc... have often done a great job of weaving politics into their episodes. And there are tons of exceptional sci-fi stories that at their heart contain politics... or political themes. What we're seeing now with these franchises is "political correctness"... and, while it can be related to "politics", they're (IMHO) not automatically the same thing. As an example... there are political stories like Robert Holmes' "The Sunmakers"... the Kaleds dressing like Nazis in "Genesis Of The Daleks"... "Vengeance On Varos"... and many, many more. IMHO, the difference between "politics" and "political correctness" is in where you find the bad guys. With politics, it's usually politicians, rich elites, people with money, influence and power who abuse those things. But with political correctness, depending on the issue, anybody can be the bad guy... because too often with that, it's about purity tests and mob mentality designed to scare people into agreeing with the mob... or staying silent. When it started, it was about righting real wrongs in the world... but they quickly realized that very few people in the world all think the exact same way about every issue. The instant anyone in these insular groups breaks ranks with others by not holding the line on any issue... they are vilified and cast out. At least, that's how I see them being different.

@@davidharding1299What we are seeing now is tick box woke agendas.

@@davidharding1299 I agree that politics have been in other franchises, but they never preached, or hit you over the head as the writers back then had the job because they were good at it, not because of DEI

@@dazblue5515 But again, are they pushing "politics" (and sometimes, that was pushed pretty aggressively)... or is it "political correctness"? They are somewhat different, IMHO.

I wish we could laugh. It’s utter cultural vandalism

@noblerees1 I'm done with Disney Who, I'll stick with Classic Who for now until RTD is gone.

Those were the points I made. Capt jack held on to some member of sutekhs, sutekh must have been shrunk in logopolis and stayed shrunk because the block computation did not include him

Only from badwolfs Tales from the TARDIS episode, as the fx shots are the same, where in classic is definitely set in a different universe. 😉

@noblerees1 There are so many pre-RTD2 stories which call into question how his Sutekh story is even feasible. RTD is supposed to be a fan too. Why doesn't he know the lore as well as we do? Some of these stories are even from his first go around. It's like Chibnall and the messes he made too. William Hartnell isn't the 1st Doctor? Really?? Despite all the times he was referenced in the series as such... and not just by the Doctor either? And he was supposed to be a fan too. If this is how fans who aspire to be Doctor Who showrunners treat the show's canon, give me a new showrunner who has never watched the show but is willing to watch it from the start to finish and learn it from scratch any day. It's like that old saying, "With friends like these, who need enemies."

Thanks. It is sad that we have those conclusions - it really is. I welcomed RTD’s return but started to feel so underwhelmed during the non special specials

Yes the media luvvies backslapping - mind you RTD said they don’t refer to or discuss previous doctors so such dismissal and ignorance can work both ways

That's exactly what he thinks.

Dour but I’ve seen excuses that we are comparing midnight to evening family time lol

Did he seriously sit down and reflect and more to the point did none of the bad wolf who fans say something?

@@noblerees1 I bet they didn't. RTD can do no wrong! Either that, or they're afraid to challenge him!

I’ll Fight the fight

@@noblerees1 good man!

Yes mark of the rani on our midweek show tomorrow and best and worst of 9th dr

@@noblerees1 Oh great, lovely story. 💗

It really makes me wonder if the only reason RTD agreed to come back was so that he could give his latest buttboy a job. It would explain SO much!!

Yeah, it really does feel that way after watching his recent episodes like The Giggle. He's unleashing his ultimate revenge fantasy of parroting his ideal warped version of social justice by using Doctor Who as a political weapon against naysayers. He can write (sometimes) as proven by midnight, but now he's been given too much free reign. By using Ncuti as his ideal puppet to channel his revenge fantasy, he's harming the integrity and dignity of Doctor Who, and on his road of destruction, he's leaving nothing but an LGBT flag on top of a mountain of ash.

The thing about Strange New Worlds in comparison to the Crying Doctor is that nothing seems forced or shoehorned in unlike RTD's Heinz 57 varieties of fluff characters to fill his own freely admitted lifestyle quotas. Pantomime dames and Scooby Doo villains do not a sci-fi make.

Who said RTD was the expert I agree. These media luvvies know everything about everything. Just stop oil protesters wreck events and pictures and RTD wrecks canon

Thank you. It’s quite thrilling at the moment

Will use it for tea break in midweek 7pm show tomorrow And then might follow yr advice

Agreed

He’s certainly filling his pension pot

Love how you articulated what a lot of us are trying to say/ would you like to come in our show sometime?

@@noblerees1 Sure, I'd be happy to. I'm a different time zone and don't often catch you guys live, but if we can figure something out, I'm in!

You are spot on. There is so much in the series to challenge. It just does not hang together at all

@@noblerees1 You’ve got to wonder about the state of RTD’s mind at this point.

Clutching his pearls?

@@noblerees1 I'm wasn't sure sure if you'd read any of the books. The Tardis was almost destroyed when the Doctor had to stop Faction Paradox. It spent a century or so gradually regenerating and growing back to it's normal size. Imagine a mini me Sutekk clinging onto a Tardis the suze of a matchbox🤣

I think you’re being a bit irrational mate. I don’t think this season is amazing, It was really stupid. But doctor who has always been cartoonishly a stupid show. Chibnall era still sucks balls tho but that’s because it was boring as dog shit.

@@somerandomyoutubeaccount5895 I agree Chibnall's run was very boring. I didn't watch some episodes as they were more effective as sleeping pills. I don't agree DW has always been a cartooinsh stupid show. It has at it worst times, but at other times it's been a cracker of a show - just like anything that's been aroundf for decades. Bad is better than boring though. You can laugh at bad where boring has nothing to offer. Cheers

Some excellent questions there and as usual RTD will dismissively refuse to explain any of it

Or he got graffiti in him in paradise towers

A question we ask ourselves a lot - and how much is he getting paid to do what the hell he wants ?

And didn’t you think that sutekh was sent way into the future beyond his life expectancy? And RTD just flippantly says he sat on the tardis

@@noblerees1 yeah, that’s how I remember it. It made sense. It gave no reason that we should expect to see Sutekh 49 years later. RTD has undone a great story in favour of his nonsense. The whole with the rope and whistle, I’m guessing that it was meant to be funny. I’ve still yet to laugh.

It’s just utter nonsense - it’s almost as if he doesn’t care

Very true

It was the park ranger not sutekh

@@noblerees1 🤣

Bring back Paul McGann for a mini series and, have him regenerate into a new 9th Doctor at the end of it.

@@davidroberts5250Sack Russell T Davies. Bring back Paul McGann and then have him regenerate into Christopher Eccleston.

@@paulholgate4664 I'd be happy with that as well.

Ironically I think he's offended every single secret sect of them in existence. Hail the Real Lord Sutekh! Steamy shoulder press of vengeance for RTD 😤

Well, I can't imagine The Temple Of Set took too kindly to seeing the central figure of their spiritual belief system reduced to a naughty doggy being dragged around on a bloody lead.

@@timleopardxolo Yeah. They'd probably want to shag it.

@@robfellows4096 🤣🤣🤣

You’re talking about the guy who brought back the show. You’re just a crybaby mate.

@@somerandomyoutubeaccount5895 Broughtr Back Don't Mean Brought Back GOOD!

@@the_flyattractor8656 so your saying that Eccleston and David Tennant were bad doctors and their eras were bad?

Yes tardis alone with its dog

Why?

Mark of the Rani and best worst moments of 9th doctor tonight at 7pm

@@noblerees1 👍

Brainless

He was mad he didn’t see her face.

It’s been incredibly frustrating