OK. Question: Why are there empty bottles in the background? Answer: Without the bottles the background would be empty. Yeah, I know it's lame but give me something I can work with.
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I found this channel from Natasha's a year or so back. I may be old but I really like and identify with Depressed Russian's attitude and personality. I really enjoy her personality and sense of humor.
@@kctechie That's quite a good guess sir! But I got the right of it cause been quite young myself. Please do not feel bad about me. Anyway this is not the case with that Russian mushroom. Her little liberal brain operates only in English and this automatically stops me seeing her as attractive.
I am from Sakha Republic, our schools were more western system than Russian. Everyone spoke Yakut, Russian and English, our teachers were very friendly and made sure the correct history was told not the one that we were told that's more 1-sided*. The fun part was walking to school when it's -65C 🤣. *The E. Slavic version were a lot of stuff was incorrect about us and made Slavic rulers glorious conquering peasant people and resources.
I follow "Life In Yakutia" channel and i have to say i am deeply impressed by you Sakha people. You live in the middle of nowhere in the coldest region of the world but you are not as hard and unfriendly as your environment. People in Yakutsk seem to be so relaxed and down to earth. Your culture and your traditions are full intact but you are not backwarded bigoted people like in so many other traditional societies.
All of Sakha Republic , Putorana plateau, and Yamalo Nenets needs to be protected in one big zapovednik protected wildlife reserve. Michael Colorado U.S.
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Some of the things you mention remind me of school in the US (Indiana) in the 70's. The separation of boys and girls for the practical classes ("shop" for boys and "home economics" for girls - same activities as in Russia) is one. Also while we didn't have uniforms, girls were required to wear skirts or dresses and waiting for the school bus on cold winter days (OK, it was only -10C) was difficult for them. One day in 1970 or 1971 they announced that girls could wear pants👖 and they were all cheering.
we did not have enforced separation. Boys could take cooking or sewing, girls could take shop. home economics was required for everyone. I took both shop (wood working) and cooking. Though tbh i took cooking hoping i would be the only guy in a class filled with girls. Turns out there was like 20 guys and 2 girls lol. Shop was also interesting, pretty much only guys ever took that class as girls were not interested. my first day I got caught doodling on a wooden shop table and had to take out a hand plane and plane all the shop tables till they were clean and flat. Learned not to fuck around in that class lol.
I had a similar experience to Willis, many options but open to males or females... I think the first Home economics was basically just economics and mandatory for everyone, then the second semester was optional and focused more on sewing/cooking/etc. Farming/agriculture was nearly a 50/50 split along with the basic medical nursing program, carpentry rarely had any girls, but welding and automotive tech class always has atleast a few, maybe 80% male? The other options like computer sciences were always 50/50 much like art class or drama class.. I know some specific agriculture classes (they had various specific classes after year one) had more girls than guys looking to get into horse care or veterinary careers later on... Honestly I was pretty impressed with our programs given our school's location, population, and budget. Lots of fundraising, donations, and great teachers applying for little known grants kept the programs thriving after other nearby high-schools had stopped thier similar trade specific programs in the 90's or early 00's due to lack of funding, forcing paid technical schools to be your starting point for such career paths, or to even try it out and see if it was something you enjoyed.
As much as I love both of your channels it is just such a treat to see you two together. You are both fantastic presenters who make your subject matter so much more interesting with your style.... especially your sense of humor. I hope in addition to your individual vlogs you keep working together for as long as possible. Maybe one day outside of Russia?
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When I was in seventh grade (in Sweden) we got an exchange student from Russia. She tried to attend our math classes but it turned out she was so far ahead of us that they had to bring in a university teacher especially for her. She was so smart!
Oh wow girls... this brought back some memories, because my Romanian school experience in many ways is so similar to yours! The only prob;em is that in my case most of it happened in the 80's. So in full Communism. And then I realized that one of your cities is actually still named Komsomolsk. But yeah, I had so many of those experiences too: uniform (we even had a small black patch with our school identification number sewn to the arm of our coat, the idea behind was that even on the street you shouldn't get away with any mischief, because any random citizen can report you to your school), mandatory hair length and styles, student-on-duty who cleaned the classroom and guarded it between classes, angry, bitter teachers, even corporal punishment, useless "patriotic" classes, pre-military training... and touching on the subject of PE: wouldn't it be nice if people around the world found a way to train PE teachers without giving teacher's diplomas to so many abusive arrogant thugs who find special pleasure in abusing and humiliating weaker, smaller kids?
I am from east germany and the first six years my school time was also in full time communism. And i have made the same experiences: we had not really school uniforms but we had a special white shirt with a symbol of a socialist youth union and a blue scarf for grade 1-4 (for the so called young pioneers) and a red scarf for grade 5 -7 (for the so called Thälmann-pioneers, named after german a communist leader who was killed by the Nazis), in the 8 grade you became a member of the so called Free German Youth and a blue shirt with a different symbol. Those shirts and scarfs were not worn on normal days just one day in the week when we had to meet after school for our pioneer meetings or on communist holidays like 1. of may or 7. of october (day of the republic in eastern germany) Marching and military drill would start with 8 grade and the entry into the free german youth - we also had something called "civil defense" from 8 - 10 grade where students would have to run around in full military gear and do special trainings with gas masks etc. And of course the eastern german government was OBSESSED with sports. To give you a perspective: the German Democratic Republic was in the eighties always on third rank when it came to olympic medals - just behind Soviet Union and the US but we had only 18 million people! It was ridiculous. A friend of me was an extremely good athlete and he would pass any test and would always get good grades because teachers were not allowed to give him bad grades! No joke. This guy could run 2000 meters like most of us would run a 60 m sprints so he was basically untouchable. When you were good at something they always would put you into special sport schools were you would get steroids and all kinds of experimental doping stuff without your consent or even knowledge. It all came out later in the nineties after the fall of communism.
@@aramisone7198 I heard this argument numerous times but to be honest i am not convinced at all. If kids get not bullied for clothes they will get bullied for their phones, their weight, their glasses, their hair, whatever. As long as teachers don't take these things seriously and act and as long as parents don't teach their children to be nice even if someone is different this will not change. This time in life is very important for finding your own individuality and for learning how to deal with the individuality of others and uniforms are not really helpfull when it comes to this matter.
So nice to see you two sharing your school experiences. Obviously there are differences due to culture but some of your stories were not so far off from my experience in school in the U.S. - though I am much older than you so my experience was in the 1960s and 70s. Having you both together for 56 minutes was pure delight and I would love to see more. I loved that Natasha was trying to at least point out some of the positives of Russian schools and Alena wasn't buying into the idea. Great job by both of you and best wishes for your futures.
So theres another russian streamer... his channel is called "Sanctioned Ivan" although people nicknamed him "Ivan the Nazi"... and he has been badmouthing these girls youtube channels. and I just wanted to say its super rare to see russians criticizing other russians. Normally the russians act like a gang and gang up on non russians like ukranians for example. But I still feel sorry for Russians, lets give all our money to these russian women please.
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I went to high school in UK between 1993 and 1998 and during that time both males and females did both cooking, sewing, technology, woodwork etc. Thanks reminds me of good times! 👍❤️😎 благодарю
So theres another russian streamer... his channel is called "Sanctioned Ivan" although people nicknamed him "Ivan the Nazi"... and he has been badmouthing these girls youtube channels. and I just wanted to say its super rare to see russians criticizing other russians. Normally the russians act like a gang and gang up on non russians like ukranians for example. But I still feel sorry for Russians, lets give all our money to these russian women please.
Of course. Life skills are important, and as men command a higher wage and tend to work far more hours and be the breadwinners, although it's useful for men to know how to cook, it's far more important for girls to learn that skill. Unless the girl wants to go down the coal mine for 14 hours while the man stays at home...
Very interesting and informative talk from both of you. The state of affairs in the world makes me depressed and pessimistic. Lo and behold I was gifted you both that brought a broad smile on my face. With more young people like yourselves the world has hope. I could listen to you two all day. Your beautiful souls bring a new light on the world. Thank you
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Thank you Depressed Russian and Natasha for your insights on Russian schooling - very interesting to hear. Your school curriculum is very similar to ours.
Great to see y'all smiling!! You gal's are more prepared for life than you think! Our schools weren't that bad lol! But overall bout the same. No gender seperation , no military classes " unless you wanted them". In our younger years yes we had chores , we also had "shop" class for boys or girls and " Home ec.." for boys or girls. Wasn't a choice for along time. And FYI, The "A" class is only non nerdy if you learn how to mix yourself with the nerds and the bad crowd!! Living proof here lol! Y'all turned out pretty great!!! Enjoy the content..
Thank you for showing the differences and similarities in your educational years. The casual yet factual way you discuss things shows great insight, and brutal honesty.
Interesting video Alena, well done. Glad to see that you can still smile in these difficult times. You have a great smile and a great sense of humor. I pray for peace and better times. I am very impressed with how well you speak English. I studied Spanish in college a hundred years ago. I passed all my classes but the only Spanish I remember are the swear words. Looking forward to your next video.
I grew up in China and I found that some of my school education experience was similar to yours. Interesting. I did do marching in primary school so I completely understand what you were talking about lol I didn't feel too traumatized though as I tend to forget unpleasant memories. Also, looking back, I'm happy that I joined a rigorous English language program (12 classes every week, 2 hours a day for six years) when I was young so I was able to communicate in another language. I also hated the physical lessons my whole life. I wasn't athletic but they made everyone complete the same tasks (like running for 1000 meters in a certain amount of time and catching volleyball for xx times) and mark our performances as grades, so I failed my PE all the time. It is also true in China that they announce everyone's grades and even ranks in public. If I get bad grades and my friends got good ones, my parents would know immediately.
@@markdouglas8073 The Chinese PRC culture wasn't imported by Mao from Stalinist USSR. In the early fifties communist china worked together with soviet consultants but only on economic and maybe military questions. The result was that they made the same mistake as the Soviet Union. They wanted to built up a strong industry and took farmers for the work in the factories. As a result 30 million people starved to death in China because with all these farmworkers in the factories there was not enough food being produced. But on cultural issues the chinese communism was different from the Soviet communism. The chinese communism seems to have its ideological roots in marxism but its cultural roots in confucianism. I remember an interview with the german chancellor Helmut Schmidt who met Mao in 1975 and he said to Mao somethimng to the effect of "Your party isn't really a marxist party, it is a confucianist party" to wich Mao replied: "So what?" He didn't even try to deny it.
@@hanshandkante5055 good observation on cultural roots, however Mao's CCP was called "Soviet Union & communist republic " in early time of chinese civil war during1920- 1940, exactly similar to east germany after ww2, it was installed Soviet system on german cultural roots. Moreover, the chniese confucianism roots was destroyed national wide in mainland during culture revolution in 1960s, it remains in Taiwan.
@@lmvcnn I am from east germany and east germany was never a soviet republic. It was a so called satellite state of the soviet union just like Poland, Chechoslovakia or Hungary. All big decisions were made by the soviets but they let local communist parties rule - in eastern germany it was not the communist party but the so called Socialistic Unity Party - wich was a forced alliance between germans social democratic party and the communist party after WW2. Also these satellite states could still make their own economic decisions to a certain degree plus they had their own armies and where not part of the Red army like all local armies of the soviet republics. And when it comes to the cultural revolution it might seem that they destroyed confucianism and in a way this is true. The communists destroyed everything that was a symbol of ancient china like Daoism, Kung-Fu, Feng Shui, Chang Buddhism, Tai Chi etc. but then again they used a very similiar symbolism - Maoism in itself has a religious component. They got rid of the old statues of buddha or Lao-Tsi but they replaced them with Mao statues just like christian misionars who built their churches on holy heathen places. THey don't destroyed the old culture but they adapted it and distorted it for their purposes.
I'm an American teaching at a Chinese university. And in China there is a platform or a stage we have to use to address the students, so it makes the teacher look impressive and formidable, towering over the students. But I teach an English conversation class, so that is crazy - my students are already very shy and afraid to speak. Top down education is largely ineffective.
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My parents who went to school in Poland had a similar experience but it was in the 50s-60s of the 20th century... When I went to school in the 80s, it was already completetely different, of course, in the positive sense.
Surprise. They did. They both wound up in Tbilisi Georgia and even attended a protest rally together near Christmas. I think Natasha posted it on her channel.
That was cool. I loved the clash of life experiences side-by-side. You two are funny, with such serious smiles. I attended private religious schools for six years where we had to dress like we were going to church. That sucked. I attended public schools in Kinder, 1st, 2nd, 6th, 7th, 12th and wore thrift store clothes cuz we were poor and got free lunches, but that was so embarrassing. As an adult, I taught in public schools for 20 years and wore shorts almost every day, and that was cool. I no longer teach, but still wear shorts every day, working from home. Again, excellent description of public school education in Russia. Fyi, you might be surprised but much of what you experienced is universal, though schools are getting better at doing less gender stereotyping in some places. In general, school sucks for most kids. Most teachers I knew treated students with kindness mixed with strictness. I loved my job, but 20 years was enough.
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@@russ1anasanov1ch49 "learning is strength, not learning is darkness." that's if you took slogans to speak Took me 10 minutes to translate. Haha .. Russian is difficult. I wish youtube would translate. =]
@@russ1anasanov1ch49 10 min. ? Well done. But if English is so simple, then why was only Natasha able to learn it from the entire Russian World? I'm now translating using screenshot of chat and Google translate scanner. Darn youtube! Won't let me copy text. Anyway.. not sure what you mean. English is not easy either. I think it is hard to learn any new language but much harder when the alphabet is different like japanese or greek or russian.. etc.
@@NoHurriesNoWorries Действительно,"iPhone" не позволяет сделать "copy-paste".Извеняюсь за трудности. Греческий алфавит действительно трудный.Я не смог осилить.Но мне очень понравилось учить китайские иероглифы - главное понять,что иероглифы - это наскальная живопись,тогда всё получится.
I am 20 years older than Natasha and I went to the Soviet/Post Soviet school in Leningrad/St-Petersburg. I think I got a decent education. Despite the system was harsh, so often I was genuinely interested in what I was learning. A lot depended on the charisma of the teachers. We had so much homework that I used to do it at night, I physically didn't have time during a day for it, because I also was in a cross-country skiing sports club. I am so glad my three children grew up in the UK and went to school here, not even because of education but because of a more humane system of education. My children actually loved going to school and have good memories about it.
My eldest daughter went to junior (primary) school in Moscow back in the 90s. The amount of homework she had was incredible. Along with ice skating, swimming and dancing she (we) had very full and busy days. But her teachers were very caring and loving people. When we moved to Scotland in 2000 her school life was very different, almost like a holiday camp. I worried that she'd become lazy and complacent. But now she has a Phd and teaches English. The Russian system gave her a thirst for knowledge with teachers that cared.
About the "classroom cleaning" part, well, answering you why: From my perspective, having studied in a public school in Porto Alegre - Brazil, students didn't have respect towards the classroom itself - they would just scribble the tables, walls (sometimes even destroy them), leave sharpener and paper trash all over the floor, so... It'd be really useful to have some "educational" duty for them to clean up the classroom, specially for those classes who got it dirtier. As for the gender roles part: well honestly I do think it is a good thing for students to learn how to do basic stuff like sewing, cooking, washing, nailing stuff, building some furniture and all that stuff you're gonna find useful one day or another in life - but I do disagree heavily that it should be separated by gender: I just think everybody should learn all those things, It'll be useful no matter your gender. thank u for the hour long clarifying vid))
Yeah, I had to say the same thing :) Cleaning was also as a part of education - to learn young people the responsibility and respect for the other's work.
In japan, it's (afaik) normal that the students clean the classrooms. In Germany, where I grew up, the students only had to clean the chalkboard. Always two people per week were responsible, so it wasn't too much work.
U.S. should adopt this practice. If you had higher property values in your school district= janitors could keep everything maintained. If not, like a friend who became a teacher found out= the teacher usually has to do it : /
Yes! I'm Brazilian too. It sounded like they had very solid education... Ours is overall lame, your family have to pay a lot if they want you to really learn something
I’ve followed Natasha about 6 months and I found your channel today (Sunday, 6 August 2022) and I really appreciate and like your personality and content ❤️
This is a nice episode. I grew up in China where I witnessed a lot of corruption and briberies in my school days. There was a trouble maker boy in my class and the teacher always punishing him for stupid little things until the family paid the teacher and then she became much nicer to him. So, you guys were lucky in a sense.
In the early 1960's in California, while girls were studying "Home Economics," all boys went to "Wood Shop" and "Metal Shop," one semester each. We made little pine stools in Wood Shop and copper lamps in Metal Shop. We learned the use of hand tools, drill press, and band saws. We also learned a tiny amount of metal working and woodworking. The whole school had the avowed purpose of preparing children to work in industrial society. Everything is different now.
In the 90’s we had “the wheel” and everyone had to do 2 semesters of their choice from choir, band, shop, or home ec. And they had levels so you could do, for example, shop 1 and then shop 2. I didn’t take shop but they did some really cool projects and learned really practical skills that you wouldn’t necessarily learn unless someone teaches you. But it was almost all boys in shop and girls in home ec, which perpetuated the segregation itself because people felt uncomfortable being the only girl or boy in their class. There’s no way in hell that I would have taken home ec, though
I really appreciate how honest the both of you are. Both of you are very smart, very beautiful and very determined ladies. I salute the both of you. Keep fighting the good fight !! Subscribed as well.
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You both lovely young ladies are awsome: great English speakers, very intelligent, very analytical, great analyzers of the social experiments and social conditionings that governments place upon their children. Overall, it would be so interesting, and would be so nice to just have a conversation with you both, on any subject, since you both are so articulate. Your vernacular is quite impressive! Good luck young ladies, you both have a great future ahead of you. You both could end up working as TV personalities, or newscasters, or many other possibilities. Keep up the great videos, and the very interesting conversations. Greetings from the United States, from Phoenix, Arizona. And remember: Governments fight and make war, but people are lovely, and friendly all over the world!!! If you came to America, we (Americans) would be so honored to have a conversation with either of you.
A 56 minute collaboration? What a feat. I feel like I'm going to have to take notes. Excellent work as always, and I'll be back with some thoughts once I've finished this.
I'm going to have to watch this again too. And I'll be taking notes. When I was growing up (debatable), boys had to wear pants in school. Girls could wear either dresses or skirts. I often wondered how they stayed warm, but this was on the Texas coast. I've become accustomed to the climate here. I like that we don't need much clothing to survive. I need to watch this again...
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You both are great. Your talk was very informative. You should collaborate more frequently. You play off each other so well. Your pessimistic laugh and Natasha's dead pan humor are a perfect combo. I am sure there are a lot of other topics you could both complain about. Looking forward to another tea time chat! Maybe even live, so we could ask questions. 😊
I really like Russian straightforward communication. Im Mexican, and we are way too polite when talking which sometimes leads to misinterpretation. You will never get this when chatting with Russian people. Amazing video!
It is interesting to learn about how systems in different countries impact the population. Information about Russia is especially interesting (obviously I'm watching this channel). I grew up during the last years of the cold war and the Soviet Union, so we weren't given any information about the Russian people due to opposing political interests. In my mind, the USSR and later Russia were a black hole of knowledge for me. Hearing about the actual life of citizens is much more interesting than large-scale politics or propaganda. I find it especially interesting that you mention the lack of funding for the education system and poor pay for teachers. This is also an epidemic across the US. In general, it is understood that people who devote themselves to teaching do it for altruistic reasons, not for the meager pay. It is interesting how much Soviet influence remains in the education system during your time as students. At least that is my interpretation of your description. The prevalence of military-related activities seems to be an example of this influence. In the US, there are organizations in secondary schools and universities that focus on military culture (ROTC) This is voluntary, and generally, these students want to join the military as officers after graduation from university. However, the majority of students are not exposed to the military. It is surprising that you describe Russian students learning how to disassemble and assemble military weapons. I can't imagine that happening during my school experience. Great video. Thanks for exposing your culture to those of us who haven't experienced it. Learning about other cultures helps break down barriers so that people can realize their similarities and, hopefully, increases understanding and peace.
I have a little story. 😂 I’m Norwegian. And in senior high school, we have the option to choose a bunch of classes. One of the classes i chose, was Russian language.. Yeah.. Somehow i’ve allways been interested in Countries i never actually got a lot of knowledge on. 😂 The teacher was a Russian lady. And she was so stereotypical Russian.. Like an older «Babuscha» type. A big scary (to us) lady, with a deep voice. Never smiled. She allways had that strick apperance. She really comanded respect by her being alone. As Norwegians, we were not used to this at all. Most Norwegian teachers where smiling, and had that overly positive appearance. 😂 But, at the same time she was a decent teacher. If i had any question, she allways looked me straight in the eyes, and thoroughly explained to me. And i noticed a tiny smerk on her face, probably because she liked that i actually engaged. 😂 Unfortunately, she became ill, and went on a long term sick leave after three months. So the class was canceled, and i never learned much Russian other than saying my name, and where i’m from. And an introduction to the alphabet. But i’ll never forget her. That’s my three months experience with a Russian teacher. We actually really came to like her, and we where so sad when we heard she couldn’t teach us anymore.. i wonder to this day what would have become of me, if i actually learned Russian back then..
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@@Frag_Limit They rarely talk in public, and like personal space. Like a running joke through the pandemic was that we wish it was over, so we can go back to a good 5 meter distance, instead of 2.. 🤣, but Norwegians are a happy people that smile every day. Genuine smiles as a result of good lives. Not like americans, pretending to be more happy than they are, and the fakeness shows. 😜 😂 Of course that’s a stereotype too. But the reason Russians don’t smile as much, is the cultural depression they’ve been living under for generations. If something goes on for long enough, it gets imbedded in the culture. But as for Norwegians. They can seem reserved, but break out a few beers, and they’ll be just as loud and obnoxious as Americans in a restaurant. 🤣
Как смешно в конце видео - "я хочу сказать что-то приятное про школу... Уроки кулинарии были интерес- Нет. Можно взять книгу из библиотеки... Ну, не всегда.... Что ещё?" 😂 вот такая жизнь. Любовь из Великобритании!! ❤️
Alena- I happily stumbled upon your channel this morning! I was so glad to see Natasha safe & “happy”! I enjoy watching Konstantin from (Inside Russia) & Natasha. You are all ambassadors of goodwill for our countries! 🌎 With everything going on in our crazy 🌍… We need more of this because We are all the same! The human race! Peace ☮️, Love ❤️ & Blessings… & Subscribed 😜🏴☠️
Мы обычно ставим запятые перед союзами «но», «однако», «а». Кроме того, мы ставим запятые между однородными членами предложения (при перечислении), но это за некоторыми исключениями: Простое перечисление (здесь мы ставим запятые): «В огороде росла морковь, картофель, лук.» (Данный вариант перечисления лаконичен). Перечисление с союзом «и» (обратите внимание, мы не ставим запятые перед «и»): «В огороде росла морковь, картофель и лук.» (Обычно для перечисления используется этот вариант). Перечисление с несколькими союзами «и» (однако здесь мы ставим запятые перед «и»): «В огороде росла и морковь, и картофель, и лук.» (Придаёт акцент перечисляемым предметам). «В огороде росла морковь, и картофель, и лук.» (Используется редко, здесь акцент идёт на количество перечисляемых предметов). Также мы ставим запятые перед относительными местоимениями, которые *похожи на вопросительные*, но используются для соединения частей предложений (также иногда для этого используются союзы, в этом случае перед ними запятые ставятся *обязательно*): «Привет из Германии от немца, который изучает русский (язык).» «Я вышел на улицу, когда пошёл дождь.» «Пошёл дождь, и я вышел на улицу.» Также не стоит забывать, что предлоги «для» и «за» не являются одинаковыми. В конце предложения ставится точка, первое слово предложения начинается с большой буквы. Überprüfen Sie die Zeichensetzung und Präpositionen im Russischen.
It is always interesting doing a comparison, whether it is within one country's system or between nations. I did most of my primary and all secondary schooling in Australia, then I went to university and became a secondary school teacher. In the five years between my last year in high school (mid 70s) and my first year teaching (1981) there was considerable change in many aspects (i.e. more freedom of subject choice for senior students, some subjects (woodwork, home economics) no longer being gender specific). By my last year teaching in 2013, there were only a few aspects that were similar to the 1970s.
When I was in school, my parents had to read and sign my report card. We also were divided into what you would call smart and not smart. We have English, Math, Social studies, and physical fitness, as our classes we had to have. In later grades, language, and other voluntary classes along with the above I named. Biology, chemistry, home economics, or shop (learning how to build things). I think everyone while in school doesn't like it . But I went to school in the early 70's - 80's. Today's schools suck.
I watched almost all of Natasha's conversations. This is the first time I see Natasha not dominating. On the contrary. Maybe depression is more attractive to me too.. My admiration for Alena :) Wonderful video :)
I really enjoyed hearing your experience and seeing the other side of Russian life, people who just want to get on with their life and perhaps let other folks in nearby countries do the same. I think you are both lovely people.
The two of you are such a power couple. You have a great thing going on working together! It was interesting to listen to you about this subject.. great to hear its not all bad. Sounds like there is alot of variety between schools. And it sounds like it is in general a positive experience which is great. I must admit that marching was pretty impressive. It is taken pretty seriously it seems. Here in Finland we have no marching, no disarming of rifles and no gas masks in school, so boring!
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In America, when a young person spends a day watching someone do their job, it is called a"job shadow." An internship is when you behave like an employee, but barely get paid or don't get paid at all. To me, internships are just another way for companies to underpay for labor.
In Norway, we call it “apprenticeship”, and the apprentice get more and more pay for each year, until they reach full employment. And it’s mandated by law, so the businesses have to follow.
Growing up in the USA I never heard the phrase "job shadow". I did see both Mom and Dad at their jobs, so I guess I was in a sense "shadowing" them. I didn't get paid but my parents probably saved some money on child care. So maybe I should been paid. But if I had not behaved I might have incurred expenses for my parents. (They were paying for everything anyway). As far as internships, I guess you might think a newcomer to the work force should be paid as much as their boss. Some employers are glad to help people learn how to be valuable to their employer. Some interns might feel taken advantage of, already worth much more than their boss. But everyone that I know that worked as an intern looked at it as an opportunity to learn and gain experience. Many people would like to make more money. Many people think think they deserve more. Many people are not willing to LEARN how to be of value. Interns do that every day...
@@beachbum77979 I like how you jump straight to "interns want to get paid as much as their boss," rather than "interns want to get paid commensurate with the labor they provide to the company, just as any other employee would." Weird that you have to exaggerate to make interns seem entitled. I wonder why that is...
Thanks for a great video. I was laughing out loud at some of the things that are similar to Californian schools during the 1950's and 60's when I attended them. I saw some RU-vid videos that some girl named Natalia Kurnaeva used to have on her channel. They showed day-to-day activity at a high school in a small town in Primorsky Kra. I was surprised at how similar it is to American schools.
Thanks for sharing your story is about day-to-day experiences in a Russian school. I live in the US where the quality of the public schools often depends on the tax base of the neighborhood surrounding the school. If you live in a wealthy district chances are you will have a wonderful school. If you live in a poor district your education may not be that great. It seems to me that the schools you describe place the high emphasis on social education for example giving little boys and little girls these future roles. Even though I'm older than the two of you, I was too dismayed the great degree to which school seems to promote obedience and conformity. There's this very deep belief that there is one way to learn. As I got older I disagreed with this. Anyways thanks again for sharing the story insightful video.
This was an interesting video - You and Natasha ribbing each other in a passive aggressive way is quite funny. You know Russian schools do sound a little harsh, the education system in Russia is probably why Russia has been able to generally keep pace with the west all these years - it sounds more rigorous than our education. Whenever I see how Russian engineers solve a problem its always kind of a little crazy to me as a westerner.
Here in Switzerland (and in Germany) we have many very skilled people who immigrated from Russia or other parts of the ex soviet union. I especially remember a woman who mentored me a bit in IT after I graduated and she taught me a lot of the basics in Linux/Unix. Originally, she studied something with electricity and power plants as far as I remember.
Alena - you just summed up your growing up Russian experience with one single line - 28:11 'Oh, you are a girl you need to wear makeup - Garbage' You and Natasha where ever you may end up at you already have a lot to offer when you get there! Stay safe and stay heathy!
I can only talk about the school system in New Zealand and Australia and it is so much more relaxed than the Russian system. Lots of play and fun, helpful teachers and definitely not the type of pressure that is put on a student in Russia. As a result our attitudes are more positive but we probably think we are better at subjects than we really are when compared to these stricter regimes. Love you girls together.
Thank you once more so much for your insightful and authentic video about the Russian school system in the Far-East of Siberia ! It is just amazing to see how you girls were able to develop such impressive English language (and also video-editing) skills etc. by attending a rather old-fashioned education system with low paid teachers and outdated role-models etc. At the same time it makes me feel ashamed that my Russian language skills are not even half as good as your foreign language skills (and I bet that Alena's German language skills are also much better than my Russian after 5 years of intensive lessons) although I graduated in Russian as my major subject at High-school in South-West Germany during the 1990's at a public (cost-free) High-school with well paid and open-minded teachers... :( As a consequence I think that both of you deserve a far better lifestyle and probably also an international career due to your enormous courage to keep establishing bridges between Russian and Western cultures especially during those sad times of hardship on both sides of the shores !
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this was quite enlightening...overall your experiences sound ok despite some trauma...it still looks like there were opportunities to have fun and grow and i'm sure you will look back on it with more fondness as the years go bye
I'm from Russia, but I run an English-language channel, where I just posted a video about propaganda in Russian schools (since I'm in school). Could you rate it?
I have a friend in Ufa studying to be a translator/interpreter. Well, for her practical experience she had to take over a high school English class there with the existing professor there to observe. Anyway, the students totally ignored her -- treating class time like a study hall or social gathering. So, the existing professor started yelling at her saying that my friend was incapable of controlling the class and gave her a bad mark. Trouble is, the students had been ignoring the existing professor all that year.
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Russia is not a developing country like the USA ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Xs6wF5jXRYs.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Mtbt315dzO8.html
This is such a GREAT and informative channel!! Thank you SO much for starting it and keeping it going!! This helps us understand things better and what's it like to be in your situation. It's nice to be connected! Thank you 🙂❤
I grew up in the USA and first went to private catholic school. For public schools, teachers have to be educated and have teaching certifications, but for Catholic schools, there are no rules…so I definitely related to you both regarding how some teachers really suck, but others are great! One teacher did nothing but teach the same lesson day after days and when people misbehaved she’d threaten to throw them out the window. But on the other hand, sometimes we got lucky - somebody’s grandma was visiting from Central America so she became our Spanish teacher that year, and it was so amazing having a native speaker and class 100% in Spanish!! We also had chores at school but nothing as much as you talk about.
That was a fun and insightful conversation between you two, enjoyed it, thank you! Well, i only finished my school time 10 years ago here in Germany and a good amount of the stuff you two described matches my school time experience. It was kinda horrible here as well, i am so happy since i left all of this behind and focus on my own fields of interest and abilities. However, i would never swapped a German school for a Russian one lol! In Russia the intensity of the bad things seems to be one or two levels higher. As you can imagine our schools actually frown upon anything that has something to do with the military, so that is a big difference. However, i was unlucky, because i had a sports and math teacher who was a former army officer and he acted precisely like that, so i feel your pain :D At least that guy was competent on paper, but he was about as human as the Terminator. Alena, you said you studied German? Please, if you can and it fits in, give us a short demo of your skills, that would be fun!
Well to me it sounds like your young school years were fun, many things different than in America but still young children can make fun no matter what schools we all went too. Great Video.
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Nice collab. I think teachers being underpaid is an issue in many parts of the world (though I wouldn't be surprised if Russian teachers have it worse than those in many other countries) I have an acquaintance whose Malaysian teacher told her class not to become a teacher as it doesn't pay well and my teacher said or implied something similar. And when I went on to college in Malaysia, I had an English lecturer who spoke very good English (some people even mistakenly thought he was from the UK) and had a master's degree in English and he mentioned he wasn't paid that well. Now I realise teachers have it harder than it seems at first.
When Russians asked me how I learned Russian, I reply that it was through meeting people and talking learning a few words through meeting people, TV, radio etc. It was not with 60 year old Svetlana Petrovna walking into class with a table shouting " You have to learn this today. Стол, стола, сталамы, столов" I.e. this regimented way of teaching languages that featured a lot in the USSR and in the former USSR in the 90s
So theres another russian streamer... his channel is called "Sanctioned Ivan" although people nicknamed him "Ivan the Nazi"... and he has been badmouthing these girls youtube channels. and I just wanted to say its super rare to see russians criticizing other russians. Normally the russians act like a gang and gang up on non russians like ukranians for example. But I still feel sorry for Russians, lets give all our money to these russian women please.
I really appreciate your two channels. Clearly we have far more in common than differences. It's sad that we be so divided due to the governments. After watching you two I would really be okay with finding a Russian to get to know and see where it goes. You have really opened up a new world to me.
The nuclear bomb training that you spoke of reminds me of the shooter safety training I did in the USA. I remember being a little kid, and having to hide under my desk while the lights were switched off. I graduated high school in 2011. My wife is from Spain, and was shocked that little kids here are taught about the possibility of being shot, and what to do in the event that it happens. In my mind this training was completely normal, and something that I thought everyone was taught. Anyways, I think it’s super interesting the things different countries deem necessary to educate kids on. Hopefully, I never need nuclear bomb training. I am not sure, but I don’t think shutting the lights and getting under a desk would help… I don’t even own a desk!
Coming from Slovakia, studied in '80s. I can shoot, read maps with compass, wear gas mask etc.By the way, in case of nuclear disaster you have to lie down with the leg opposite to the press wave and cover you with some clothes. Hopefully we will not need this.
No Rights, No Problem! I like that. That’s a good slogan. 😂😆 I used to wear a Blue uniform in school years ago. I liked wearing it. It kept everyone neat looking and I didn’t have to think about what to wear. It’s a good thing. 😂😆
Alena, thanks for inviting Natasha on your channel! Nice collab between you on education in Russia. The country has its problems and the standard of living is low compared to the West but I don’t think its hopeless. Both of you acquitted yourselves very well and are making the country a better place. Of course politics can be cynical but a society is full of people who aren’t in it and they’re its future. When I was growing up, wokism and extremism weren’t an issue in my country and looking back on it, I came out a broad minded. tolerant and civilised person and education made all the difference for me. Whatever things exist that I don’t like, I have a positive outlook on life and there are more good days than bad. I hope the both of you will keep in it in mind going forward and in closing, again I appreciate the program you presented for us today. Best wishes!
Your school experience actually sounds very similar to my school years in the 90s and early 2000s (graduated 2003) in Romania. I l have been living in the US for 17 years now, and my kids all go to school here. One thing I can say is that there are definitely positives and negatives in both systems of education, but one common denominator in both is how undervalued teachers are when it comes to salary.
I went to school in Latvia in the 2000s and as much as they want to push the view of ‘oh we’re so European’, I had every single experience you described- to the t. The same old Soviet ideology and practices
I graduated in 2007. I think we have less of some of those things, especially now, I recall at least at the later part of my time there, the grades students had were not told to all people in the class anymore and seems like the teachers that would yell at kids also disappeared, but maybe because we were already 17-18. In Latvia we have 12 years in high school, so actually oftentimes you are already an adult at 18 and still a student (since you start at 7). I think now in 2022 there have been a lot of changes compared to that time. Maybe not in all areas, as traditions are traditions and we have inherited the Soviet system to some extent, but in general things have changed a lot, how the students look, how the teachers look. Like yeah in the beginning of 2000s there was a lot of what is described in this video, I come from a 50-50 Latvian and Russian town so a lot of boys were into Brigada, Bumer and such stuff. I went to Latvian school, but already then there was a lot of Russian kids and kids from mixed marriages, who wanted the kids to have good Latvian when they graduated. Not that long ago they completely renovated my school, here you can see it, if you are interested. I remember the hallways and all, although now they are way different. And kids in general look way different these days ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-W43z48LZcCg.html
im from poland, graduated in 2012. some things were smiliar like no psychologist and horrible PE, but we had no gender separation, no marching and no child labor
