Russian Soldiers Have the Worst Opsec 

Ivan is 'e-VON' though but yeah pretty good otherwise

@@Randomness65535 I thought Ivan is Eye-vun and Yvonne is e-VON.

@@Randomness65535 Ivan is "ee-vahn"

He is actually the Ghost of Kiev.

@@LucasImpulse good point, yeah, it's just like Yvonne but more a and less o. Like 'von' but with an American accent.

Yes, but they went on special military operation, not to war, so there was no need to take their phones

Well the US snitched on themselves with some fitness app, you could see hundreds of people's tracks on the base from a globally accessible map

From what I heard phones were taken but not because of tracking. I guess there are some exceptions but a lot I read and watched a lot interviews and many soldiers told that their phones were taken on 23rd of February. Actually smartphones are banned in Russian military because in the last couple of years we had quite a lot of videos from army showing it's bad side, it's still possible to have one but it's much more difficult

Russian POWs and those who returned back, say that phones were taken by the higher ups. BUT it's not because of a precaution against tracking, but to keep the soldiers out of the loop. See, russian propaganda hinges on people being dumb and blind, so they can spoon feed the most absurd shit you've ever heard. Also, some soldiers refused to give away their phones because(and this is a quote) "Previous cases when officers confiscated our phones, they would "lose" them. And we never saw them again". So yeah, they took away phones because they literally could steal and feed them bulshit at the same time.

They are not allowed to use phones

They werent fitbits. They were a fitness app. Those werent exactly top secret bases either. They were mostly FOBs. To the militaries credit though, no one thought that the fitness app would record the GPS data, and fucking put it out online. The military does fully ban phones where it matters though, and they do a good job at it too. keep in mind your average iphone is basically american, and it some massive security risk. I honestly doubt that if the US went against a peer rival, that they would do the same mistake again. Atleast compared to Russia, Western armies actually learn from past experiences, and dont contiously do the same braindead shit over and over again.

To be fair those were guys from the intelligence services, not necessarily uniforms and certainly not grunts

Bruh I trust NATO/America more as they got better tactics more troops better gear and vehicles biggest NAVY in the world biggest Air Force in the world Russia lost 26-30K troops in 3 months USA lost 4-8K troops in the last 32 years

@@honkhonk8009 every fitness app has a gps tracker how do you think they estimate your distance traveled lmao magic ?

@@g0stface23 accelerometer? lol

New zone occupation modpack slaps

so true

Actually though, that would be a great mechanic, you have some fancy shit with a tracker, put it somewhere, a bandit or somebody else might pick it up and boom you got their location

Ironically the developers of Stalker are Ukrainian.

Ironically the developers of Stalker are Ukrainian.

Foreshadow

I hate the antichrist

The photo was actually from a Drake and Josh episode. Which should be more concerning given Megan was much more malevolent

@@ilocosmetro At last, an analyst!

Miranda Cosgrove as Megan was more malevolent than Miranda Cosgrove as Carly.

Those can be easily made too, Faraday fabrics and pipes, lol.

cover your phone with a few layers of Aluminium foil

Me trying to convince my wife to not grid the whole house. I ordered led foil, kinda expensive but imma assume I won't get poisoned and it'll work

@@LaurentiusTriarius just make sure you wash your hands really well or use gloves. Cover it in enamel or something

From what I understand the russian soldier arent allowed to bring phones at all but some either hide them or steal phones from ukrainians.

@@neighbor472 lol yup, but tell that to the political brass making the same mistake as the m14...

Will* be hacked

@@Bagginsess It's not a mistake when it's done on purpose.

And this is how you are reminded military intelligence is an oxymoron.

All it takes is one Snowden.

Lmao they knew their own culture well

The problem is that most people listen to this hearsay and to whatever the media outlets write down. In the Russian army you are not allowed to have your personal cellphone with you during service. That law applies to any military service, not just abroad. You're supposed to hand in your phone when entering service, and documentary declare what you've handed it; not handing it over to a random officer when leaving the country. You can only use a phone during free periods, and the military is providing soldiers with phones and a secure connection to call to their relatives. ---- Then there are these things to consider: 1) soldiers and volunteers from the east-Ukrainian people republics are not in service at the Russian govt army, yet they do fight at the same side as the Russians; almost all of these people speak Russian, a lot of them have relatives in Russia and some of them even have a Russian passport (along with an Ukrainian one); these east-Ukrainian partisans have an incentive to pretend to be a Russian soldier, because that will protect them legally under the 3rd geneva convention. These East-Ukrainian partisans are way more likely to get captivated than actual Russian soldiers. 2) The Ukrainian goventment has been shown to use montage and actors in a lot of their videos (especially in the beginning of the war). Some of their videos are real, some are not.

What a nonsense. In Russian army phones are given to soldiers at evening when they have free time only and then are taken back. And you can't hide a phone from a CO. During the invasion I'm sure that MOST of their phones were taken and stored somewhere back at the batalion HQ. The problem is that some soldiers may have had a second phone to keep at themselves and give away the first one. Or maybe inserted their SIM card into another (maybe found) phone. Many soldiers come from rural areas and they don't think that much about mobile networks or position acquisition via such. But everyone want to be in touch with their relatives.

@@13Sol46 Watch some interviews on Volodymyr Zolkin channel, he has more than 100 interviews with russian captives. If you don't know russian, some of the videos have english subtitles.

@@wondercorpse Ukraine has a special division of military propaganda, disinformation and "psychological warfare", it is called TsIPSO (ЦИПСО), most Ukrainian military bloggers work for them. If you seriously think that some youtube blogger can record interviews with prisoners of war, then you are very naive.

Must admit i chuckled when reddit squad headquaters got obliterated with other mercs and instructors because they leaked all the info on the reddit as to where it was and how it was. People tend to forget that in modern conflict both sides use tactical ballistic missiles with range of hundreds of kilometers.

Sylvia from HoMM3. Insane I recognized her that fast!

@@luxettenebrae4424 where can I read more about said reddit squad and it's demise?

It's insane to me how quickly civilian tech emerged onto the battlefield. Just a few short years ago I was finishing up my deployment in the middle east during OIR. We never had the security risk that I'm seeing today. Granted, some grunts were posting cringe videos online during the early days of the GWoT in Iraq and Afghanistan. But let's face it, the chance of Al-Qaeda and the Taliban having any strategic use of the information was unlikely. They trained on playground equipment. Still, it's interesting to see what warfare looks like between two high-tech nations. There is certainly a lot to be learned and many adaptations that need to be made across all the world's militaries to patch these gapping holes in operational security.

I remember that Reddit guy who caused Ukraine to lose an strategic target by posting. This war is tiresome. Dumb tiresome.

filming military locations should be illegal

It's been a lot harder to find combat footage from the Ukrainian side nowadays.

@@clementpoon120 It is in a lot of countries, I dont know about Russian law though

Ukranians are as well giving their location recording lot's of TikTok

Holy shit now that's a reddit moment

Meme War

I love how some of those morons went there thinking they'd be badass operators and instead they end up with a shovel. Some then wanted to leave only to start crying they were being kidnapped because it turns out you can't just fuckin leave, that's desertion. To top it all off they have no sense of opsec and many likely have zero military training and lied about it.

@@thesaddestdude3575 better meme war instead of real one

"HaHa Jonathan, you're bombarding my sister"

@@rsoldat4951 Didn't expect to read this sentence today, have a like

150 foreign mercenaries died because they had to post pics on social media that showed where they are.

Many Ukranian "troops" are just volunteers, not actual soldiers So it makes sense that they would make mistakes like those But when the ATTACKING side is making these kinds of mistakes... they are literally the ones that prepared and attacked first

@@rompevuevitos222 Why do you respond with some sort of excuse for it as if I was comparing Russian and Ukrainian opsec when I was just giving an example? People are so fucked in the head over this Ukraine stuff it's insane

@@pixelplanet142 To show how virtuous they are about supporting the current thing. Millennial and zoomer narcissism knows no bounds.

@@pixelplanet142 Besides the reddit battallion a dozen Ukrainian guys got blown to pieces because they posed before a fried truck while there still was an operational russian tank in firing range. Another reddit squad had to post a video how they do music together. And there are half a dozen videos of geniuses chuckling how they trick the russians by hiding in schools and gyms, i with the consequent result of those places being reduced to rubble.

Probably because many of them thought it was a training exercise

@@total_epicness6776 lmao that makes more sense than I expected

Also they were stealing phones from stores and civillians. But civilians often judt reported to our feds that russian soldiers had taken their phone so that they immediately get tracked.

@@total_epicness6776 They definitely knows what they expected.

Yeaaa thats what they want u to think, its false

@@ipooponurface Enjoyed using Qubes OS on the good old x230 for a bit, but now prefer to code js on my macbook in star bucks

Any cell phone uses cell tower .-.

@@chasing_the_horizon old man jenkins, do u live the young people?

Why does this have to be the top comment? You gave me a brain aneurysm. I didn't ask for a brain aneurysm, but you gave it to me anyways, because it's the top comment and I have to see it even if I didn't click comments. NO APPLE IS THE WORST FOR PRIVACY

That glow buddy would have eventually trafficked your organs, don't be sad.

exactly, if they at least told them phones are traking devices for the enemy and could get them killed not many ppl would sneak their phones in

There's an infamous cybersecurity course in the US armed forces people have to go through.

Should be part of their training

Former Army here. We are very much taught and told why we can't use personal electronics during wartime. But many soldiers just don't care and will either give a broken phone or sneak another phone in their rucksack. The higher ups can't go person to person and do a thorough search of every soldier, so some do get through.

Who the fuck says USAian?

bro mental outlaw loves his voice bro never does proper journalism. i only watch ur videos (ik ur reading this outlaw) to see what normie knowledge has come to..

Wtf lol

I suppose they were carrying one rifle for three soldiers while dudes from the other battalion were carrying ammunition

Yeah, calling Russian soldiers "trained" is a bit of a stretch.

They knew they crossed, we have access to a messages of soldiers texting back home saying we finally made it into Ukraine or we crossed and etc

LOL

Average csgo player

not gru spetsnaz

I am not an expert, but know enough to turn off all my shit. It really is that fucking simple. We are talking common fucking sense. A lot of these kids grew up with wireless headsets. Telling them to use wired headsets is a foreign concept to them. The only reason I use wireless headset at present. Is because my case has holes. That are too small. So the jacks are to thick; where they meet the rubber and wire to the muffs.

@@jamesedwards3923 A misconception of 'common sense' is that people think it means to be somewhat intelligent. It does not. Common sense just means the sense that is common at the time. When stupidity and ignorance reign supreme, that's the common sense. Nowadays, common sense just means one baby-step above moronic.

Spetznaz and vdv have been wiped out by triangulation generals and headquat location from videos, so...

Your regular burger also doesn't know how towers work.

Android and Apple are American made OS's lol. If Russia even used that, it wouldnt matter anyways. Also, GLONASS isnt even used by the Russian military. GPS is accurate to 3.5m-7.8m, while GLONASS is accuaret from 5-10m. Since GLONASS was only function after 2008, alot of precision weaponry doesnt even use it. Not to mention GLONASS is known to be unreliable, and is only used as a last resort on the off chance that GPS is unavailable. Russian soldiers litterally rely on both GPS and Beidou. Even their guided munitions, cruise missiles, and basically fucking everything, relies on other countries GNSS

@@honkhonk8009 Glonass also has a more accurate mode that uses security through obscurity

@@honkhonk8009 Android is open source, you couldn't get away with putting a backdoor in there (not for long). That being said, most people have stock Android from their manufacturers, which probably would have some sort of vulnerability.

@my real name People were using cell phones for communicating back in Georgian war, for example, simply because half of the radio stations didn't work.

Well said man

Don't bother, most of so called phone calls are fabricated by Ukraine intelligence department. There is so mich fakes fabricated by my(Ukrainian) government that there is no point to losten to anything they post anymore.

Those conversations are too easy to forge both sides post lot of them. Because both countries use same language.Also in russian army phones are forbidden for use unlike in ukraine, where everyone have their phones, there is some interesting information from captured phones floating around(from both sides, since russian soldiers sometimes have their phones and drone operators use phones for scouting).

Which are obviously fake.

People are forgetting that it's all propaganda from both sides. As much as I like Kenny he's kind of fucking stupid in this regard.

The Russians aren't stupid they know that people are always listening thats why they develop a drone that can carry a femtocell this documentary by combat approved show that,whether they deployed these drones in Ukraine is however a mystery ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-DO6P6kAUOLw.html

>most of the Russian military are conscripts Is that what your Ukrainian KGB officer told you?

@@subvert221 LOL. Seems like a struck a nerve. Tell your boss in the Kremlin I said hi.

Pepper bacon is ok at best.

@@internallyinteral you have zero taste and you are a disgrace. Amish pepper Bacon is awesome

1. Ukrainian/western talking point. 2. Source: crack pipe. Totally not giving yourself away, yeah, "our propaganda" my ass.

Bro this talking point is tired already….. its like months into a war now… Some idiots too their phones when they aren’t even allowed to have them

Those are just Russian soldiers pathetic attempt at lying to save their asses after being captured. You mean to tell me they ALL didnt know what they were doing? After amassing 195,000 troops on the Ukrainian border and several thousand different vehicles. The same soldiers that have continuously crossed in and out of Ukraine didn't know what they were doing?

@@saisaiverba7658 but people who took the phones in the start of ThE SpEcIaL OpErAtIoN will not just throw them away

@@genken7880 bro Russians were the first ones to kill Ukrainians because of cell signals. The soldiers took their phones against orders not because “tHeY DiNT kNoW”

Wait, what's the 4th domain, then?

@@egarcia1360 space (but idk anything about space camo so i didn't mention it)

@@intfamous4001 Space would be really easy to hide stuff tbh

or baofeng id handy

Rugged battle tested Russian stalinium equipment moment

Western media (and Mental Outlaw is western media by extension) covers only Russian failures, barely Ukrainian failures.

Less than Russian since it's the Ukrainians controlling the cell phone towers in Ukraine, hello logic 101

"Lmao" and "killed" shouldn't be on the same sentence.

@@plaguerim5608 Unless its in videogames

What a waste

It's not about age, everyone loves memes It's easy to live without smartphone after a couple of days but it's like waste of time or disability

The 18 year old would have been born in 2004 even in russia they have not lived a day without a phone.

Why go to war without tik tok and memes

sources pls?

Mental Outlaw isnt the best at research. Thanks

@@JamesQHolden He also shows unconfirmed stories that are pedalled by the MSM and he doesn't understand that they're too good to be true. We all know how much the ukrainian media and the western MSM loves their propaganda and misinformation, like with the ghost of kiev, the whole snake island debacle and now the "heroic evacuation" of the Azov battalion, just to name a few

@@rocketradioket1398 look the US if your going to get deployed your suppose to terminate your phone contracts and use is restricted only at the base a few years ago it was outright banned to be used

They're still using cellphone tower data today as well.

I think they were just giving them polite closure - "Hello, we've Ukrainian and we found this phone, your husband is probably dead, sorry to tell you"

You need a decent level of corruption within a military to have phones be as common as they are for Russian troops. If Norwegian armed forces order all phones of a unit to be confiscated it's probably at least a bit more effective than the Russian situation where even privates and conscripts can avoid the confiscation.

​@@zimbu_ That, and also people are fucking stupid. No matter how you try to control it, someone will smuggle a phone to make wartime tictoks for updoots anyway.

Wait when did Finns fight Norwegians?

@@SgtZaqq wargames, military training

@@zimbu_ yeah. But you are going to a real war without a way to communicate with your loved ones is probably not easy. Pretty lonely. And when you die nobody knows. In past they had letters but today I think maybe a secure communication with home should be included into the military communication network. At least in the free time over WiFi or do. But during combat better not connecting to the cell towers.

@@awesomeferret you don't need to do this for general gps purposes. I just drove hours through a zero cell reception area.

@@awesomeferret I tried it myself. Works perfectly fine on Airplane mode.

@@piguy4137 maybe that's a new thing? My newest phone is an LG V40 running pie, and even pokemon go forces me to turn on enhanced tracking to do anything. Even in offline mode, airplane mode makes it impossible to grab my location, whether in Google Maps or anything else that requests location (at least from a user facing perspective, who knows what goes on under the hood). I've never owned a phone that behaves as you describe.

GPS uses timing from multiple satellites to geolocate It does not need any external connexion whatso ever to determine any position The 5 m error you get is a limitation by design to prevent miltary uses (exp : munition guiding ) Encrypted gps channels the westerns militaries use offer way more accurate geolocation Tldr : its a one way street, the satellite sends the signal and the device interprets it

It works with cached data, you can cache data for the area you live, but last time I checked, it didn't let me cache enough for a 2 hour road trip. IIRC, automated route planning doesn't work offline, even if the data is cached. But you can use other apps with maps saved on your phones storage just like you can on standalone satnav devices.

You served in Afghanistan?

Interesting how your comment can be interpreted in different ways.

Smartphones have been banned in Russian army for the last couple of years but people still have them there

Most likely the normie soldier was never told why they can't have their phone, they would probably take it seriously if they knew the extent those things can be tracked, that's my guess anyways.

Zoomers just smuggle the phone in they don't care.

@@Sb129 in Russian army you are not allowed to have your phone with you, usually it's given to you in the evenings for small amount of time and smartphones are banned in general

@@sevil2467 I figured that but I wonder if the avg soldier knows the details as to why there is no phones allowed.

That is the Russian government. Clumsy, incompetent, corrupt, and savage.

Cell tower knows which 120° sector you'r phone are on, which frequency band and particular frequencies are used and approximate distance to device. Cellphone itself knows way more: how much stronger (very rarely) or weaker neighboring cell tower signal is. It doesn't even know how strong of a signal outher carriers have in it's location. Tracking will definitelly include cell tower and sector. Any more than that - very hard to get.

I don’t think the phone needs to be on or charged even

@@kiloton1920 it does. Communicating with cell tower is always energy consuming. Cellphone gets nanowatts when recieving signal and transmitt with milliwatts (or even watts, up to 2W in GSM 850 or 900, 1W in GSM 1800 or 1900, or 0,2 W in 3g, 4g and 5g). Even right next to cell tower recieved signal is lower than RAM static consumption. Recieved level of cellular signal is not enought to keep anything within system memory, have a CPU running or even turn PMIC on (power managment IC)

@@kiloton1920 I think so too. Older models maybe not

More or less.

@@B----------------------------D yeah, actually the stress on Kiev should be different

That was a Ukranian squad and they were fresh and had poor training, got sent on a recon mission. It's the separatists who can pick up the phone, they're wearing the darker green uniforms.

This. MO, I get that coming up with creative content that fits the "Guidelines" is a difficult task. But taking it to the point of not only falling victim to the info warfare but spreading it to others who consider you an authority is just a bad move. I'm all for criticism in valid circumstances, but this "Vatn!k styoobid" meme has only lead fools to believe that a mighty super power is a defenseless easy target that they should just "finish quickly".... Then back in the realm of reality, said, self-sufficient superpower has effectively withdrawn from the rest of the world & stopped supplying them with resources that are CRITICAL to their continuity. I'm not a fan of said superpower or Jooovtin (if it has n00ks to blow up the entire world its a damn superpower), but instead think it's just the opposite side of the g£0b0h0m0 coin and this is their strategy to take out the wst. But this nonsense must stop, the foolish NPCs are falling for it and rooting for "their team" as spectators of a fuken game. This ain't no game mf.

bullshit, they are mostly 18-20 year olds who can't live without their tik toks and instagrams, cannon fodder.

@Foma Jeff and in first 1.5 month of invasion most of russian soldiers used ukrainian sim cards because russian cards wouldn't work in ukrainian territory

Rampant corruption.

​ @Foma Jeff i've been following the war since the day it started. I have seen maybe two videos, and zero tiktoks or whatever the fuck you imagine, from Russian soldiers. And don't you think that one of the strongest militaries in the world actually knows that phones run on foreign proprietary code, and letting soldiers have them effectively means that you tell your enemy about your location, and having a phone is considered to be a crime?

They aren't allowed to have them. Thing is, if you've ever been around people, you know that something not being allowed will not stop some of them. Especially if you don't give them a proper explanation as to why the rule is in place, or if they're too dumb to understand the explanation.

military trained... for a few weeks in a decadent and declining society...

>Waco >Globohomo trooper Pretty obvious tbh

I know you know, but I know some people don't know Hostage rescue Team

damn that's what I thought, too!

source

why were they equipped separately? Because nobody planned this war I guess, and theres no need for such different branches to cooperate on encrypted frequencies in other cases. Or just incompetence, never wave that off

Was already on before 👍🏼

Haha that's great. Omg, epampoedm kfkefpeao, can I send you a letter? This comment is just too amusing.

Yeah have fun snitching on something like phone use. Definitely going to lead to a positive outcome.

I approve this comment as funny.

Thanks, Ivan

Good luck with those flat hirachies

I can't believe this is the only comment about that lol.

+15 griven

4 they are zoomers

Capitalize your R's in 'Russia', bro

@@KnightlyFYI Who cares?

Get the toaster.

Я перестал серьёзно относиться к англоязычным ютуберам, ведь даже самые базированные среди них всё ещё сидят в своём информационном пузыре, который раздут посильнее нашего и украинского. Я выкатил пасту, хотя сомневаюсь что хоть кто-то её увидит из-за потенциального шэдоу-бана.

Yes! 👊

@@luxettenebrae4424 exactly!