RV Bed - Pipe Berth DIY Build

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Pipe berths have been around for centuries and they are one of the most comfortable bunks you can sleep on. On top of that, they are lightweight, easy to roll up and store out of the way and inexpensive to make. What's not to like? I love mine!
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@jonkirkwood469 3 года назад

Update - We've made two trips since we built the pipe berths. We love them. Our trailer is 79" inside width. I'm 6'1" and my wife is 5'2" so they're the perfect accommodation. My children and grandchildren have all tried them and everyone agrees that they're surprisingly comfortable. All I need is a scratchy Navy wool blanket and I'll be young again. They will allow us access to the ramp as a sitting area during the day. Great idea, Rick.

@gonagain 3 года назад

Glad to hear those pipe berths are working out well for you. They really are so comfortable, we really like ours.

@CDNBVR1 4 года назад

I liked the ending. It was a nice touch.

@davidschroeder1651 4 года назад

Had no idea there was canvas stores. Learn every day

@ruabadkitty 4 года назад

It is hard to find a canvas shop that makes sails. I had to go over 100 miles to find someone to make mine. Canvas furniture last forever.

@debVan1363 3 года назад

Same here! :D

@jkocol 3 года назад

We have a Tent and Awning here. I'm sure they could accommodate this project, and The Foam Shop would sell the foam, with a decorative cover to go on it.

@carlyellison8498 4 года назад

I am thinking of a water bed, a) because that is what I sleep on at home, and b) because I often camp in the desert and could always drink my bed if I broke down! :-)

@gregchewie3059 4 года назад

Don't forget how much water weighs (8.4 lbs per gallon)

@odahithedubious2017 4 года назад

Also, be aware that you will need to put something in the water to prevent algae from growing inside the bed, that might not be so good to drink.

@secondact7151 3 года назад

You are probably joking, but you really can have a water bed. There are bed pads used for people that are essentially bed bound. I've seen air filled ones, but also water filled. They are not like a full water mattress, but they could go over a canvas cot and simulate a water bed with much less weight.

@markreynolds3850 4 года назад

I remember when I was in the navy I the sixties ,I had to thrice my rack my canvas back and tighten the rope to get the slack out of it . These were the rams we had at that time. With 4 inch mattress pad.. nice talking with you,

@gonagain 4 года назад

Thanks for the info Mark.

@hero2006 4 года назад

Great project. Very talented ladies. Got me thinking of a solution for the back of my truck bed. Using this instead of the heavy plywood structure and memory foam everyone else uses.

@gonagain 4 года назад

Exactly! Besides, I sleep way better on these.

@ruabadkitty 4 года назад

Do you have videos of your truck? I am in need of ideas. I just bought truck with topper.

@hero2006 4 года назад

Nancy Rae nope not yet. I just bought my camper shell. Good luck.

@ruabadkitty 4 года назад

@@hero2006 same to you.

@DannyB-cs9vx 3 года назад

In the Navy, (about 1973), my second ship was so old it had canvas bunks laced to pipe with a fiber mat of some sort on it. . When we went into the shipyards, they converted to a metal box for storage with foam on top. I liked the canvas better. It was more comfortable, and in heavy seas the canvas sag made it easier to not fall out. Now I need to rethink the bed in my van. One could also make adjustable storage shelving with dowel rods and fabric. Maybe even PVC with a center stretcher, (like a square 8 frame for the shelf part, and wood for the risers).

@gonagain 3 года назад

Good idea about the storage shelving. Hey Danny, I still have the canvas with the lacing grommets that belonged to my dad from his time in the Navy during WWII.

@DannyB-cs9vx 3 года назад

@@gonagain My ship was the USS Hector AR-7. Left the shipyard 1942 and was commissioned in 1944. It had the old steel plate and rivet construction.

@KMF3 3 года назад

I like this set up for several reasons. Mostly because you can take it all out and use as a utility trailer

@gonagain 3 года назад

We started out that way because we had a 2Up ATV that we hauled around.

@Spinonemaster 4 года назад

"He's Done" ..... lol ... love Linda's sense of humor .... great idea and design .... our local Awning place has been in business for over 100 years here ...

@gregoutdoors7 4 года назад

Rick, you’re filling my head full of good ideas! 👍🏻😎

@gonagain 4 года назад

I wish someone would do that for me!

@gregoutdoors7 4 года назад

Gonagain lol 😊

@cetifoxproductions 3 года назад

So, thank you for this great idea! We have a 6x10 cargo trailer that is primarily outfitted to teach scuba diving (most of the space is taken up by a compressor, tanks, BCs, regulators, safety gear, etc.). But there was a lot of wasted space. Over the past several months I've installed a counter at the front, upper and lower cabinets for camping/cooking gear, food, clothes, etc., a 200w solar kit w/1000w inverter....but other than a walkway down the center and some space by the twin doors (there's no side door), there really was no place to sleep unless we deployed our 2-person tent. The tent is fine when we are intentionally camping or when the weather's decent. But for stealth or bad weather, there was no practical way to sleep...especially since we also have 5 small dogs. Your pipe berth was the PERFECT solution for us! I can easily remove the two cots, roll them up and tuck them along the side of the trailer when I'm teaching classes and easily set them up when we're camping or have to bugout. We don't have anyone in our small border town who can custom-sew cot/canvas material, so we bought a couple of fold-up cots from Walmart, removed the framework and inserted 1 1/2" pipes in their place for an easy install! Thanks again!

@gonagain 3 года назад

Thanks for tip on the cots from Walmart! That's the kind of thinking we use when diy-ing projects. Those should work out just fine.

@cetifoxproductions 3 года назад

@@gonagain BTW, Home Depot has closet rods of various lengths, colors and strengths made by Everbilt. I got the 6ft ones rated for Heavy Duty ($19.98)....they fit the Walmart cot easily (with just enough room to make insertion and adjustment easy). I definitely would only go for the Heavy Duty ones, but they hold me just just fine.

@dezfan 4 года назад

Great idea and use of space! May have to steal this idea!👍🏼

@herblapp6134 4 года назад

Plagiarism is the highest form of flattery. 😉

@michaelharris1455 3 года назад

light weight, too!

@kubotamaniac 3 года назад

Nice video! Fun to watch, and good ideas!! I just bought a 18.5 feet trailer, and it was MY trailer, until my wife watched your videos, now it is OUR trailer............

@gonagain 3 года назад

LOL!

@seymourwrasse3321 Год назад

this looks like a good project for my industrial walking foot sewing machine, just like the canvas lady's machine

@gonagain Год назад

There you go! Nice machine to have around.

@normanmallory2055 4 года назад

I would not have thought the pipes you use would be strong enough to hold my 178 pounds, great idea , i like how you did the brackets on the wall .. It looks great .. Now i know how to do it , slick idea .. I sleep on my side a lot of the time but not all the time..

@gonagain 4 года назад

Those pipes will easily support 300 pounds. That conduit comes in two different weights (that I'm aware of) and this is the heavier one.

@normanmallory2055 4 года назад

@@gonagain Thanks I never knew that and have bought conduit pipe in the passed for jobs, good to know.. I like that system, what a great system..

@explorer867 4 года назад

Looks like a great solution for our sleeping accomodations. I will take this up with the boss Lol. Thanks for the great concept and presentation. Have a great week.

@herblapp6134 4 года назад

Did you know Rick was the original inspiration for Macgyver?? 😅😂🤣🙋‍♂️

@MOTrav 2 года назад

Cool way to make a bed with minimal materials!

@gonagain 2 года назад

The bunks continue to be very comfortable for us.

@kyongbriggs8488 2 года назад

Sure do enjoy your approach to projects and the clarity there in.

@philmickey7247 3 года назад

For what it's worth. Place foam or moving blanket between (sandwich) canvas. Thanks for the great video!👍

@gonagain 3 года назад

Thanks for the tip Phil!

@CurtisDrew1 3 года назад

My parents had a Shasta Camper trailer in the 50`s that had a bunk like that over the dining room table. It's where my little brother would sleep. Fun times.

@gonagain 3 года назад

Very cool Curtis.

@mattuboyle5891 3 года назад

Not sure how I came across this lovely family. Very relaxed, informative and easy to watch. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and love for adventure. When I was 17 I saw a video about Montana..I said...I'm going to the USA to visit that state.. I ended up in PA, now IL...but I'm getting closer..I love my adopted country.. so beautiful with great people..particularly off the beaten track.

@gonagain 3 года назад

Hello Mattú, you're almost here!

@GypsyJvan 3 года назад

i know that this video is an old one, but i just viewed it... great ideal, using conduit, instead of a 2x4s, like most people..and the netting..thanks..this is the RR guy, that did train wrecks..u and i have talked before..thanks again for a great ideal ... Gypsy J van/trailer..

@gonagain 3 года назад

Thanks, Jerry. Some of our sailing life comes through in our current life.

@kristabaker6932 4 года назад

Oh you guys are cute! Thanks for the video. We're trying to draw out plans for our cargo conversion, and this really looks like a great option for ours. The more beds, the better. We have a lot of kids to keep happy.

@gonagain 4 года назад

I hear you and know how busy you must be in camp!

@glenschumannGlensWorkshop 3 года назад

Nice project. Love Linda's close.

@JD-hs7ib 3 года назад

What a Great Idea !!!!!!!!!!!

@terrimccain9697 4 года назад

Very cool and loved the ending

@gonagain 4 года назад

Thanks Terri!

@scottmitseff4402 3 года назад

Very nice video and thank you for sharing in the fabric manufacturing of the Hamic/bed

@gonagain 3 года назад

Thanks for watching Scott!

@morphergaming0531 2 года назад

I love the concept that the bed lacing could be tightened or loosened to the individual's preference, the original select your comfort bed. Plus if needed pushing the front pipe back or removing it could open up floor space when not in use, genius.

@gonagain 2 года назад

Hello morphergaming 05, The bed is still comfy and once in a while I re-adjust the lacing.

@garywells3874 3 года назад

Love your ammo can shop heater.

@MrTyroneweaver 8 месяцев назад

my cousin went to msu. got his masters in sugar beet growing, although he never grew a sugar beet in his life.

@ctech24 4 года назад

I like this idea because then you can easily break it down if you need to haul something in your cargo trailer. Thanks for sharing.

@gonagain 4 года назад

Yes, that's exactly why we made those. Comfortable to sleep on , easy to take down and easy to stow. ~Linda

@paulhunter546 Год назад

Very cool to see the whole process 👍

@billmitchell7731 4 года назад

I like the way you think👍 This will give you more floor space too.👍👍👍

@gonagain 4 года назад

I've been sleeping on it this past week and it's very comfy. I like it.

@billmitchell7731 4 года назад

@@gonagain 👍👍👍

@steveswenson5764 4 года назад

Another great idea! You're full of them. Great video, Thanks Rick!

@gonagain 4 года назад

Thank you for watching Steve!

@scottgorman7166 3 года назад

Pop them off, roll them up and look at all the space. Great idea. I might incorporate this in my when I start the design. Thanks

@gonagain 3 года назад

Thanks for watching Scott!

@rachelpeacock6674 Год назад

I loved your video on revamping sleeping space. That’s a cool idea to use canvas with grommets to tie. Very economical and looks comfortable too! Thank you for sharing.

@ericswild Год назад

I saw a similar setup to this for camping in the woods where you angle logs. You could angle the support holes openings to allow you to remove and store the cot and then when you add your weight to the cot is sets in and separates the cot side supports.

@justmona9647 4 года назад

Cool 👍👍 canvas chaps❣️ I've had canvas cots my entire life, only the frames have changed (wooden to tubular steel). Until I was 30, I had canvas tents with ties to close them. Then I started pairing them with the rigs [whatever I had at the time] and my kids have known nothing other than them growing up.

@summerland6397 4 года назад

Ha! I was thinking you needed to make that wider just before the misses came in to take a seat. My dad was in the navy and made flip up canvas bunks for us kids in the back of the 49 chevy pu. Hope you two have a great year.

@gonagain 4 года назад

Thank you Summerland. I still have my father's canvas from his berth aboard ship during WWII.

@summerland6397 4 года назад

@@gonagain That is something, sir.

@jodyseaman1885 4 года назад

Asleep on the job. Enjoyed watching this video again. Such a great idea for bunks that don't take up much space .

@gonagain 4 года назад

We just got back recently from a month on the road and we both slept very well on these bunks. That's saying a lot because I don't sleep well on most beds.

@sasquatch885 4 года назад

Great upgrade. Slicker than snot on a doorknob.👏

@duncdunc76 4 года назад

Sweet bed upgrade you two are great🤙

@darrenschroeder9123 4 года назад

Love your videos. Love the new ideas. Was just honking you could stuff some sort of material between the two canvas surfaces to act as insulation. Kinda like an underquit does for a hammock. Just an idea. Keep up the good work.

@gonagain 4 года назад

You know what? We always put a self inflating mat on top and you're right about the insulation.

@debVan1363 3 года назад

so glad I found this channel. This family is awesome :) So many inspiring ideas!

@BillSias-op7xw 3 года назад

Coleman makes some nice camp cots, just say'n!

@phillipmorris1334 4 года назад

hello from the Ozarks rick and linda!! thanks for sharing!!

@johnthompson5792 4 года назад

The Girls at North County did a nice job,,, tc

@gonagain 4 года назад

Yes, they certainly did.

@markreynolds3850 4 года назад

Canvas back racks in the navy. Triceup or tighten the rope supporting the canvas. That had to tighten so it did not drupe down on the guy below. Usually three high.

@gonagain 4 года назад

I have my father's canvas from his WWII Navy service (Seabee).

@yv6eda 4 года назад

Very nice! You guys are great!

@miket8324 4 года назад

Looks great Rick.👍😋

@gonagain 4 года назад

Thanks Mike!

@alextaylor3815 3 года назад

I like the bed build. Great video!!

@gonagain 3 года назад

Thank you Paul!

@patrickmckowen2999 2 года назад

Great idea - thank you

@ErikHeller-sg8sw 4 года назад

Another Fantastic Video. Thank You I think I'm going to Have to make a trip to Montana.(for a Variety of Reasons)

@gonagain 4 года назад

Don't come in February!

@ErikHeller-sg8sw 4 года назад

@@gonagain I have lived & Worked at Snowbird Ski & Summer Resort. 7 or More Years of Driving Up to 9- 10 Thousand Feet, Everyday, & Having to Drive Back at 10 PM. Made me a Pro at Dealing with Snow Everywhere. Thank You for the Heads Up. I'm Cool. You & Linda are The Best---!!!

@gonagain 4 года назад

Thanks Erik!

@GunneyRat 3 года назад

that's a great idea thanks

@montanadivacreations9267 4 года назад

I live in Western Montana.. so I totally LOVE this. My hubby and I have looked at so many cargo builds and they are so uber fancy we gave up thinking we could do that.. But seeing how simply you all have yours set up.. I totally am going to revisit a cargo trailer again..

@txdreams100 4 года назад

Your trailer is full of genius ideas! The new berth looks terrific-and you immediately put it to good use! Enjoy!

@gonagain 4 года назад

Thank you Sandy. I'm sleeping good on it.

@boathemian7694 Год назад

Nicely done y’all

@gonagain Год назад

Thank you!

@studio1954thereflections 2 года назад

Great job on these cots ...awesome use of space and light weight for travel 🇨🇦❤️🇨🇦

@gonagain 2 года назад

They're comfortable too.

@hg2. 3 года назад

Bravo!

@markkeating1804 4 года назад

Great video, as usual. I just totaled my 21’rv after flipping it into the woods off the side of hwy10 in MS. Time for me to get a cargo trailer. Thank you for you’re wonderful videos,. Keep them coming. Safe travels 👍👍

@cajunjamis9001 4 года назад

Get one that doesn't leak- it is raining " cats & dogs in Mississippi ! Maybe a boat? lol

@gonagain 4 года назад

Thank you for the nice comment, hope your cargo trailer build goes well!

@jodyseaman1885 4 года назад

Such a great idea! Now Linda can use your bunk as a step to get in her bunk. Gives you more open space too. How tall is your ceiling. Just trying to get an idea how far apart the 2 bunks are.You 2 really enjoy life.

@gonagain 4 года назад

Hi Jody, our ceiling height is 6 feet.

@denisekyle6603 Год назад

Fantastic video

@gonagain Год назад

The pipe berths continue to be very comfortable.

@heckmancs 3 года назад

That is an awesome idea, I was thinking something much heavier with plywood and 2x4s into my horizontal track this is perfect and easy to dismantle if you want to use the trailer for cargo as well. Thanks for sharing have enjoyed a lot of your videos and has my wheels turning in my head. God bless and keep adventur'n. 👍

@gonagain 3 года назад

With a pad on top it's very comfortable too, no hard spots.

@markreynolds3850 4 года назад

Thanks for sharing this video.nice job constructing the bunks.

@gonagain 4 года назад

Thank you Mark!

@angelawierda760 4 года назад

Love love love this! As with all your other ventures you take us on until we are able to do the same. You give us such grand ideas❤🤗❤! Thank you!

@gonagain 4 года назад

Thank you Angela!

@jimmybutler3728 4 года назад

Good idea! for it also cuts down on weight in your trailer and better for your back support while you sleep just might be better than the than box spring bed at home and less costly as well...

@gonagain 4 года назад

So far so good on my comfort level! The cot I used to sleep on gave me the best sleep so this berth should do the same....thanks for watching!

@jimmybutler3728 4 года назад

@@gonagain Always nice to see a do it your self person know when to get help in what he wants, than to see some one try to do it and find they have hurt them self by not having the right materials...

@gonagain 4 года назад

@@jimmybutler3728 , I knew my old Singer would have a hard time with it and I didn't want to take a chance on ruining it. On top of that, we met some nice folks.

@jimmybutler3728 4 года назад

@@gonagain good all around for all...

@xuey0uth 4 года назад

Nice video! You both are funny!

@gonagain 4 года назад

Thank you! 😁

@kenjepsen4579 3 года назад

Great idea. Simple, light, and comfortable! Thanks!!

@donmthg 3 года назад

Great info. I'll keep this in mind if I go the cargo conversion route. Just a bit of historical context that came to mind watching this. The phrase, "Sleep tight", comes from the colonial times when string beds were popular. If the strings were tight, the bed would be more comfortable. If they were loose or uneven the bed would be uncomfortable. Sleep tight...

@gonagain 3 года назад

Thanks for sharing that, it makes sense.

@cotter9751 3 года назад

I'd been trying to design a bed like this in my head. Helpful to see if realized.

@WannaBFree 4 года назад

Great idea and design! This gives me some ideas for a new bunk bed set up in our little camping van. Thank you for sharing it with us! 👍👍👍

@gonagain 4 года назад

Thank you very much for watching!

@martykong3592 3 года назад

Love the ending with Linda! :) Great space and weight saving ideas! Hmmmmmmmmmm, how could I do that in a MiniVan:) THanks again and all the BEST to both of you and family!

@gonagain 3 года назад

Hi Marty. You could do it with two low, swing out bulkheads (or permanent) that the pipes drop into along the side of the van (lengthwise).

@martykong3592 3 года назад

@@gonagain Thanks for the suggestion and help! All the BEST to you, Linda and family! :)

@jms60 3 года назад

Pipe great ideal now i fiqure with one for me no legs TY

@galardmills5306 4 года назад

Great Falls! You folks have the best little dirt track there! When I’m in that area I always try to be there on a weekend when you have Saturday night races! And thank you for showing us the pipe birth process. Now I want to see how loosely you tune the laces.

@gonagain 4 года назад

On summer nights we can hear the distant roar of the engines from the track. I spent the first night in the bunk and will be adjusting the lacing after it settles in later this week. I'll video that for you.

@faze_buendia9514 3 года назад

great video! Informative and helpful! I'm trying to build twin beds in the bedroom of my RV and this is a fantastic idea, think I"ll borrow it, thanks for sharing!!

@gonagain 3 года назад

These bunks are super comfortable too.

@terrywilliams557 4 года назад

Awesome bunk I think I'll pu some in my van thanks

@cmanofthewoodscentralus3217 4 года назад

Great job the only thing I might considering to add would be a strip of wood running at the top where the poles go in along the side of the trailer so the brackets would not be able to twist in to each other.

@gonagain 4 года назад

Our upper bunk is like that and I'll be keeping an eye on this one. I didn't do the braces because I'm trying to maintain maximum length, but we'll see if the mounts move at all.

@jeanleyton4327 3 года назад

what a cool project! ou are always sharing the best ideas! Thank you!!

@gonagain 3 года назад

Thank you! 😊

@jimv.661 4 года назад

Excellent add on!

@susart7 4 года назад

Well-done! I enjoyed seeing you make the bed. Very creative.

@mikemanjo2458 3 года назад

This is amazing!!! Thanks for sharing! Such a smart way to build! (Love from SC, Jane)

@gonagain 3 года назад

Thanks for watching Jane!

@dalepointer9312 4 года назад

Brilliant, really neat/ Enough room for head and feet/ Like it so, I 'll do it too/ Really, really sweet and cool/

@gonagain 4 года назад

Thank you Dale!

@odahithedubious2017 4 года назад

Very nice! That looks like a very comfortable bed.

@gonagain 4 года назад

I've got two nights on it now and just about to turn in for a third! It's comfortable.

@simplyliving1808 4 года назад

Another great idea! I think this might work for my build👍👍👍

@dexslater5433 4 года назад

New subscriber. Love your ideas. This canvas bunk idea is ingenious. Ty so much.

@danlux4954 3 года назад

I had my guy make it out of some mesh type material, which I have on some 2x4’s connected to e-track. Probably going to upgrade to aluminum shoring beams to be a little stiffer.

@jasonpetty3786 4 года назад

Great video. Thanks for sharing.

@lylewagner2118 4 года назад

Perfect timing for this episode, we have been using a blow up mattress and was about to order a fold up frame so we could have storage underneath but this would be a lot cheaper!

@gonagain 4 года назад

And it's very comfortable for us, too!

@flipnotrab 4 года назад

I agree! Been debating a third bed “option” on a step-van and this is a heck of a lot cheaper and efficient than a pulley & electric cable system. I think I’ll do 3-piece “interlocking” pipe so I’ll have them to use for breaker-bars too. Won’t need to carry a electric impact gun anymore for the flat tire that “will” happen at some point.

@Melvinschroeder 9 месяцев назад

E track on wall with 2x4 brackets is what I used.

@HappyPlaceCamping Год назад

I love this set up. It’s a super great idea. Not sure we have a local place that could do the canvas for us. I’ll have to check around and see. Our wood bunks are just so bulky that we lose a lot of space between beds, floor and ceiling.

@gonagain Год назад

You can sew 10-12 ounce canvas on a regular sewing machine if you just take it slow and don't make the edges too many layers.

@HappyPlaceCamping Год назад

@@gonagain oooh that’s good to know! I was afraid it might not be heavy duty enough thread. Never sewed canvas so wasn’t sure. Guess I should RU-vid that too 😂

@gregchewie3059 4 года назад

WOW!!! Great video! Great information. The MRS is a great jokester too!! Happy 2020 travels

@gonagain 4 года назад

Thanks for watching, Greg and Chewie!

@markreynolds3850 4 года назад

Thanks for sharing your video,, interesting and hope it works for ya!

@doingitwithnothing 4 года назад

Interesting

@powderbeast5598 4 года назад

Ditto , canvas store 👍.

@lindagolden9892 3 года назад

Interesting bed setup; hadn’t seen your camper as I’m a new subscriber. Might want to pick up an inexpensive foldable one step stool to set in your shower to place the water bucket on. Big Lots, Walmart, Camping World, etc, sells for approx $12 or less. 🧼

@MacgyverSharon 3 года назад

Awesome :-)

@SamuraiMama 4 года назад

Looks like that is gonna work out great!

@gonagain 4 года назад

I'm about to find out!

@randomstuffwithjoe 4 года назад

This was one of the reasons I went with a 7' wide trailer instead of a 6'. I ended up using e-tracks on the walls.. and 2x4 brackets to make the bed platform. Works perfectly. I've done a handful of videos throughout my build process if you wanna check them out.. but here's the video of the initial bunk bed install. Cheers... ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-iVQc9dj1L_M.html

@edjrmorgan 4 года назад

Awesome!

@roberteads9995 2 года назад

My trailer is starting to look like yours.

@gonagain 2 года назад

Very good!!! We like our current layout a lot, but everyone's needs are different of course.

@roberteads9995 2 года назад

I use a 7x12 and carry a 1300cc M/C. I hammock camp as much as possible. The pipe berth is perfect when I'm trying to go long distances or super cold weather. Love your shower plan, and I use that also. I'm VERY sorry about your wife, but I have no doubt she will be back soon. Happy Trails! PS The Beatles impacted my life too