But wait, there's more! The darco is the lowest point of the slide so when water runs down the side of the slide out walls, the water drops end up clinging to (and wicking through) the darco. The water ends up absorbing into your slide out floor and, you guessed it, you will have a soft floor that needs to be replaced. I installed a slide out ski to prevent the water from getting to the darco. Instructions for the install are on my channel. You did a great job on showing how to install the rollers! Thanks.
mike just installed 2 rollers from e bay for 20 bucks and they work!!!! the slide is smooth like glass nice job huge help thank you soooo much buddy saved me
@@rickstills6716 i have a 2018 Keystone Sprinter fiver. 37' with four slides. my camper is only 1 month old and the largest 11 'slide was jerking violently all of a sudden. my slide is cable driven and has a slide wear bar. tried lubes and clean the underside. all negative results. ordered the rollers and installed 4 of them. ny my slide goes in and smoothly. Must do mod. i did the work with my friend and it was simple took less than 1 hr
Well done, Thanks! I followed your suggestions and installed my rollers today. With my slide all the way out I couldn't get much lift. I brought it in about an inch and was able to lift it enough to get the sawzall in there. I did 4 rollers in a kitchen slide that has the refrigerator and stove in it. It seemed to raise my slide out about 3/8" to 1/2". I sealed the gap with a piece of plastic garage door seal that worked perfectly.
Did you install one the whole length or just enough to cover each roller cutout? I'm worried it will fold in when pulling the slide in and catch on the roller and rip off.
Thanks for the video! added 3 to each of my bigger slides on my 2017 Fuzion 417. I had to weld a 3/4" x 1/8" strip with 2 holes to the flange of the roller because there was a step right where the mounting holes were at. took about an hour for the first side, and 25 mins for the second slide.
Thank you so much. this is my exact issue with my slide outs. Now i know how to repair it. I have tried every lube out there and nothing is working. I might as well give this a shot. Awesome video.
I'm so thankful for your video. I have a 2020 Vibe 26BH with a Accu-slide and wear bar. It is only 5 months old and under warranty. Mine has a slightly different issue. The screws that hold the wear bar down are not fully screwed in and thus scraping the slideout floor bottom. Forest River has accepted responsibility for it, but I cannot find a RV shop that will do the repair work. Most say they won't repair it if I bought elsewhere. The rest say they don't have the equipment or experience. So I have a new busted up RV that I'm paying to sit in my driveway. I'm hopeful that this will take care of it. Otherwise I'm screwed.
Great fix ,I wish the RV industry had an oversight committee like the Automobile industry to eliminate or cut down the amount of blatant design screwups that the customers of RV's have to eat the cost for. The manufacturer should reimburse you for your material cost and $150 an hour that they charge us.
You convinced me to buy some of those Lippert rollers for our Montana HC and the 13 foot LR slide and the 7 foot kitchen slide, both of which appear to have failed slide bars. Now all I need is some good weather to do the install. Interesting that the lightest of the 4 slides on our 5er, the BR has factory installed rollers. I never thought I would miss the Lippert rack and pinion slides on our old 5er - but I do!
Just an update - I have the rollers but still waiting on better weather - maybe no rain tomorrow!. Most if not all of the jerking and strange noises can be removed by cable adjustment as I have done. Not a fun task but doable. BAL recommends ZEP 45 lube on the wear bar. Too expensive at 27-29 bucks a can - if you can find it. I used a 7-8 buck commercail CRC PTFE based lube with virtually the same ingrediants and it works. I have 2 reasons to install rollers - first, the LR sags and no amount of cable adjustment will fix that wear bar failure droop. The second - I'm tired of adjusting cables and if this helps .........
Love this idea.. and most likely will do myself.. but something I have been doing and so far has helped a lot.. is baby powder.. put it on a dry rag and wipe the bottom of your slide… lay it thick. After a few times it’s slick again. It’s annoying that you have to do something like this on campers that are so darn expensive…. 🤦♂️
Man, Chris that was an awesome video, great fix! You made it look like even I could do it!! Lol “single female “ have same problem but with different type. I wire brushed off the toothy rods on bottom applied dry lubricant. Now syncing the motors. So far so good. Oh and making sure she’s perfectly level before putting slides out. Thanks Judy
No sir. Thank you. This video clears up my understanding of why my Forest River Vibe is getting groves under the slideout. I thought there were rollers that are causing the problem. Now I know it is crappy design.
My slides are exactly the same as yours and did the same thing. I degreased the wear bar as good as I could with Totally Awesome, then sprayed the bottom of the slide with WD40 Specialist Dirt and Dust Resistant Dry Lube PTFE spray and let it dry. Ran the slide in and out and it works like new. The rollers would be a more permanent fix but mine are fixed now with the PTFE lube, I guess that I will monitor them for a while...
Good vid, thanks. My Travel Supreme needs bedroom slide rollers replaced. Unfortunately they are recessed about 5" in from outside edge. Getting them out is the problem. I may slide a flat bar in under the middle of the roller bracket and get a Sawzall to cut the screws then install the outside mount screws.The link didn't come up but Cass rv rollers will bring them up.Thumbs up
Great video. I have Schwintex slides on my tt with the original roller system. After time the rollers will wear through or tear the material on the bottom of the slide. I started watching your video hoping you were going to address that problem. The only solution is to install some sort of wear strips for the rollers to run on. Can't wait to see your associated video games as this video it will be awesome.
I havent found such a video for this problem mine is having now also...THANKS... I would have liked to have seen the old wear bar condition wear. My wife just thinks its dirty.. I don't expect much debris getting into that area only from interior sweeping out to the exterior. 8 Rollers ordered every 3 ft recommended.. Hope the wear bar is standard. Seems they all come from the same MFGrs in Indiana to save them time and you money.. Mine only lasted 2 years and I was befuddled to figure out the problem.. Long screws of 3" often are used to go through the aluminum box channel to reach through it.. You are DE' MAN!!... Man hug!
I tackled my smaller slide today. It was successful. I noted the "wear bar" was extremely worn on the ends. Perhaps yours is also similar. I think Keystone likes to use these for some reason of economics. A shorter saw blade seem do do fine but i was ready with the longer ones.
Good fix! Looks like your cable brackets need to be moved down so they pull straight in. I'm changing accuslide cables on my 2017 Laredo now, and all the videos mention that.
I added 5 to my 11 ft slide. it works better but it did raise it a good half inch. So far no issues and hope it stays that way. I need to seal the wiper area at rollers. I'm worried it will get pulled in and catch on the rollers and rip it off.
Got as far as cutting the bottom wiper seal and there is no slide bar as shown.I installed roller but at that point realized that there were already rollers in place behind the wiper seals right next to my install. I suggest checking before cutting. I have a 2018 Grand Design Reflections 315 RLTS.
Pretty pathetic that you spend that much money on an rv and then you have to repair it. I think the rv industry is some of the biggest ripoffs in manufacturing. You did a great job. My slide hangs up on one side coming in so I have to either have someone on the corner pushing or I bring it in so far then reverse it a couple of inches then bring it in again. Keep doing that til it’s in all the way. Thank you for your video, your a good teacher.
I have the same issue with my larger slide out which is my kitchen slide. My fifth wheel is a 2018 Keystone sprinter with 4 slides. I just bought it a month ago and the slide is jerking and skipping when coming in/out. The dealers don't have any answers but to schedule an apt . We all know what its like to bring your rv to the dealer. LOL it will be their for the hole camping season. The Rollers make sense. The dealers all tell me that the traditional wear bar setup is constantly an issue . I have ordered 5 rollers I sure hope they fix the issue. The only thing I see is that by cutting out the wiper seal and wear bar this leaves a gap for debris and other elements to enter the coach
You can buy additional wiper seal material and install it over the gaps to restore the seal. I would provide more detail be we have yet to do this step to our own trailer. We haven't noticed the missing sections of wiper to be much of an issue. Though it would be better to seal it back up I'm sure.
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OK I put 5 of these on my 12 foot kitchen slide. It actually raised my slide up a good 1/2 inch. It smoother but it still kind of bucks but not the quick short bucking it did now its longer back and forth bucking. Its smoother overall but still not perfect. Also the gap now lets in cold air. I hate my life lol.
Have to agree should be installed at factory I have seen a lot of trailers with this system and they just don’t seem to work well. Mine is going back to the dealership this week to get the slides adjusted and the rv is about a year old.
You're not supposed to cut the wear bar, only the outer flap to make room for the roller. The rollers assist the wear bar. They are not to replace a section of the wear bar.
My 12 foot long kitchen slide is doing this and it bulges out the wall at the bottom on one side, I hope these rollors will stop it. Thanks for the info and link.
Word of advice. It has compromised the plastic wrap on the bottom of the slideout. No water can get in while driving down the road. Not sure why the yahoos let the plastic wrap bare the weight of the slideout. My floor was rotten around the ends. Also the screws that they secured the floor, went right through the plastic wrap. It was destin for failure when it rolled off the assembly line. Thanks Keystone. Why aren't there recalls on RVs like automobiles?
Nice vid, I was wondering where and what they call that power plug. My RV is wired for a second AC but it dont have one and I will not need one. The 50 AMP 35ft cord is a beast to load and unload. I would like to put a smaller 30 amp cord. But this adapter would work good as long as the AC is not needed. Thanks mike
Bed on back fell out of tracks and now I can’t figure out how to put it back on tracks. There is this nasty little box shaped metal thing that won’t let me slide it back in. So I brought the bed platform inside and tried tracking it that way but there are two metal stops preventing that. No idea how to get it back on tracks now, any thoughts?
Ok I thought this was a good idea . After replacing 2 gearbox’s I decided to check out installing rollers . Problem is mine already has rollers. 4 on the appliance slide 8’ & only 2 on living room slide . Living room side snagged in the middle causing floor damage. Repaired with aluminum flashing. The system has no safe guards ( prox/ limit switch) to avoid gearbox failure. The manual override is a cruel joke as one you can’t reach and the fact that the gearbox needs to be good for this to work.
You mentioned you talked/worked with a technician... what company did they work for? How did you get a hold of them? I’m seeing the same issue with my Keystone Fuzion 2017 (371). Keystone customer service was no help... kept saying to take it to a dealer.
People say that you should not have a fridge in the slide , for the companies that make this kind have messed up the air going in for the compressor to keep cool is so wrong. have u found this problem?
This is still a common problem, yet the OEM's are still making the slide-outs without installing rollers in them. I have just repaired our's in the same fashion as shown here except our slide-out is the Lippert hydraulic and not the BAL Accuslide. Come on Keystone, do better!!!!
Hey Ya'll wanted to share Our Slide Out wouldn't work, Hydraulic level good, checked the voltage 0, replaced the Relays with Golf Cart Relays still 0, Fuses OK, son-in-law traced to an Auto Reset Circuit breaker mounted under hood, sure enough was stuck Open. Replaced about $6 on line, installed and works Fine. Hope this helps someone.
Great video! Wanted to let people know that it's usually not a "failed" wear bar causing this. It's just simply friction causing it. After my dealer told me there is nothing they can do to fix it on my BRAND NEW camper I purchased from them, I fixed the issue on my 12 ft slide by buying 2 cans of Silicone Spray Lubricant, running the slide full out, spraying the underbelly of it in small areas at a time until it was wet (evaporates pretty quickly). The Silicone spray leaves a slippery film behind after evaporating. Did this 2 times and it fixed the problem. So far it's been about a year and has not done it again since.
Can you tell me the roller bracket part number and where to get them, also the length of the long slideout you added them to mine is 147 1/2 inches and the spacing you did for them thank you
Hi mike love the video and the great detail that you have provided, I have a 2014 sprinter and my main slide is jumping going in and out, I noticed that you mention that the tech you spoke with said that the roller shouldn't be more then an 1/8th of an inch higher then the wear bar bar , so I started calling around and keystone tells me that the wear bar on my rig is 148" long and only 3/8" high , that isnt very high and i cant find any rollers on lipperts web site that small , could you post the measurements of your sections that you cut out , i would thing that they have to be higher then 3/8 " in order for the j36 roller to work , thank you Dan
Thanks a lot for this vid. I'm having the same issue with a rack and pinion slide. Did the new rollers raise the slide up when it's in its fully out position? Thanks again!
Mike, Hello and Thank You for this detailed post! I have not been able to acquire the level of assistance from Norco/BAL that you were able, but the height of the wear bar of the 12' slide box in my 2017 Keystone Bullet 272bhs is not as tall as the sections that you had removed from your Voltage. If I measure the stack up including the 0.20" to remove the carpet below the J-36 Roller Assemblies, the slide would still be approx. 0.30" above the current wear bars. As you appear to have excellent mechanical skills, in your opinion, if I were to remove the nylon rolls from the roller assembly, do you think that I could turn them down a little in a lathe? Additionally, as you had published this information last year, have you seen any additional wearing of the darco cloth? Any additional details or feed-back would be greatly appreciated! All the Best!
I think you would be able to lathe the rollers down a little, though I am no expert on the matter. We haven't seen any additional wear to the darco from the rollers. The wear bar was causing far more damage.
hope ya dont mind me responding to your post, as far as the darci cloth getting warn, I seen a video where a guy installed i think it was 1/8” stainless steal over the darco cloth, so the rollers slid on that, the stainless was like 6” wide, and the length of the slide. good day
if your concerned about tearing the darco material you can just install strips thin gauge stainless the width of the roller this will protect the darco
How unfortunate those weren't an included/mandatory part to begin. They certainly know how to overprice everything they sell - Thanks, corporate stooges! ANYWAY... Good Job on the video! Do you feel that it would be possible to use RP-113446 instead? (available at for 1/2 the price, also on A for a few dollars more but if you have Prime delivery...) Thinking it might be more secure, flat-mounted with four screws. Just that possibly more difficult to install, maybe a air/battery powered ratchet? Plus, trimming the seal wouldn't be required.
We just bought a Palomino HS1902 and my slider binds going out and coming back in, causing it twist so that either front or rear lags far behind. Will the rollers help this, or do I have a different problem? Help, please, Anyone? I really do appreciate your sharing this video.
@@rickstills6716 We jacked it up about 2-3 inches. The top of the slide will hit the top of the trailer opening so just be careful you don't keep going after the top of the slide hits the ceiling
WOW, this is great. Mine has been adjusted 4 times by the dealer and never fixed it. Now my Darco is ripping into the wood and need to do something to fix it and now i know how to. Did you end up adding a new wiper once you cut it out, are you able to let me know which wiper if you did?
You know we haven't added any new wiper to the outside of the rollers yet. But you can hear wind coming through, so we will add something when we get a minute.
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