Rw9 vs Zen | 1v1 for Undisputed World #1 

actually so true

Truest comment here. This is exactly what it felt like watching this series. RW9 is an absolute monster on defense I can’t even understand how he saved half those shots even after watching him do it. I just don’t see how it’s possible the guy’s crazy

​@@neil_surya o

Yeah, but so many kick-off goals against Zen though. He's so bad at them. I think he would've easily won it if he wasn't so bad at kick-offs. Hats of to Rw9 though, wow

​@@yipperdeyipEasily won is a stretch, Zen's offense was stopped. The only notable kickoff difference was game 7.

The Vatira vs Zen match had 37k viewers, lovely to see for 1v1

im sad no vod was saved from arsenal's watch party :(

@@johneckleston9826 bruh no way d7 had more than this

@@randomportugal3713 in 2 separate streams, D7 and some other 22k viewer French guy

@@ryzikx amen, would love to watch it if he can upload/save it

especially when he forgor 4 seconds

​@@ryzikxwas it 2 or 4 lmao.

@@JoelTGM the time was supposed to be 4:44. it went two seconds late so it was 4:42. then johnny hit the minus button twice on accident making it 4:40

Zen was too predictable with all the straight away air dribbles

@@RichSoundsGM when he stopped doing them is when he looked less dominant and j feel kinda made him lose

Scrubkilla won the Twelve titans at 13 years old and Twelve Titans # 2 / manfield night 5k at the age of 14. It's just the new era with new meta, nothing special about their age. This young fellas built for the current meta and the legends like Okhalid, Fairy Peak, Scrub Killa are outdated mechanically. It's just mad Scrubkilla waited 2 years to compete in rlcs and won it at the age of 16 years and 1 month old. He was at a non psyonix major with Paschy90 at 14 yrs old. One of the best player ever but his career was very short because of the age restrict. Imagine him in RLCS 1 year earlier. Now he can't even qualify for an event.. JSTN dominated RLCS with his insane mechanics for 3 years. Noone came close to his mechanics (maybe Squishy) now Dark showing everyone how good he is at 14 years old and JSTN looks incomparable to Dark. Times changes we have to respect the legends and move on while meta changes. Kronovi, Turbo, Kaydop, Violentpanda, Remkoe, Deevo, Squishy, Kuxir an old era has ended after RLCS X.

There are levels

zen or rw9? i mean i see rw9 being the best rn people say zen well he lost until he prove himself rw9 will be the best in the world

@@95Kyo It's mad how people forget about Scrub. Was hilarious to watch and one of the first, if not first, child prodigy we ever saw. Sucks to see where he is now

@@95Kyo scrub waited 2 years middle east waited 7

The fact that they haven't picked up on it yet. Are they asleep?

@@vooduh very hard to start a 1v1 league when most if not all 1s players are signed to teams

@@araizghauri6494 I agree. I honestly read it as LAN in my head, which would be much more feasible if RLCS players were to compete.

@@vooduh yeah, thats exactly what i'm thinking

Maybe not a full league, but a subleague that they play at majors and worlds. Like a seperate 16 player bracket that plays between rlcs games or something, and the rlcs winner and 1s winner are both decided on championship Sunday.

undoubtedly!

The aerial adaptation/battle was insane. RW9 the only player to not only match but beat Zen when it comes to arial challenges and adaptation. Every match everyone else even including Yan was outmatched at times (and so was rw9 at the start) but once he adapted it was no longer the Zen show once he was in the air.

watch zen vs vatira on D7 channel

I think yanxnz vs Daniel recently and Daniel vs zen are definitely contenders but this is an all time great for sure

rw9 won game 7

​@@YanDa739 ur mom lost game 1 against inteligence

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Zen won 5-3

alright now edit the comment and say zen won

If you mention Jack, you cannot leave Joreuz unmentioned

@@materwelon932 Jack and Khalid's rivalry went on for many months in the ranked leaderboard as well as they were consistently trading #1 spot. yes joreuz is good but he doesn't have a specific "rival" per se

Jack joreuz still the best just drama filled series of all time

@@connor9603 Joreuz definitely had a tournament rivalry with jack…

@@connor9603 maybe you shouldn’t be so emphatic about claims like that if you don’t know the history. 💀 jack never had dominance over tournaments, but he did have some pretty dramatic wins over Joreuz.(see him reverse sweeping Joreuz in fusion, and the “most tilting 1v1 series ever?” video. And, of course, the final smug match, which literally ends with Johnny saying “he’s finally beaten his rival.” Also, since you seem not to be aware, the same person can have multiple rivalries.

bro said series's???????

@@thesheriff720 yes it's correct

@@ryzikxno it’s incorrect

@@krusher181

it’s not correct, in this context the original commenter is trying to use series in the plural form. the plural form of series is just series.

I combed through every single one of his 1v1 showmatches to timestamp every goal and plot them out. I noticed a somewhat clear-ish pattern of zen usually being the one to not say "gg". It didnt happen often, but if there was a game where one of the players did not say gg after, it was like 80% Zen. I hate saying that without documenting it, but honestly his sportsmanship is still pretty solid overall despite these tiny subtle things. I assumed half the time it was because Zen was focused so much on changing his cam or car settings or something. Or bailing to yell at his mom for lagspiking his shit LOL

@@kaleiwahea nah he always the first one to say ggs even after losing, the only people he didn't say gg was saudi players like nwpo and rw9... weird move, and I know u will say "what about ayyjay" that one doesn't count cuz it was after the nwpo match immediately so maybe zen meant it to be not looking sus.

@@konyadake1602 LOL nah fair man i didnt even notice it was more with certain regions than others, i just remembered having that vibe after a number of games seeing him dip out really fast, or just be kinda brooding, but one time johnny mentioned he was likely adjusting his cam settings or something so i just stopped paying attention. I'm so stoked for him though, his mental game has TONS of time to get better if needed!

@@kaleiwahea yeah if he doesn't say gg for 1 or 2 games for whatever the reason it would be normal, but the thing is that he never said gg for one time for either nwpo or rw9 while doing it to any other pro is sus.

@@konyadake1602 I wouldn't be surprised considering that he's french.

rw9 is very underrated mechanically. he isnt as flashy, but he literally never makes mechanical misplays. could be argued that he has the most consistent mechanics. if he wants a hard flick, it will always be a hard flick, and if he wants a top corner shot, he will always shoot it perfectly top corner

@@TH-cx2yx imo, Rw9 is a little less comfortable when it's time for fast aerial play than the new european and american gen

​@@neuro5813Johnny once said that moving fast at all times doesn't make you a fast player. it's being at the right place at the right time and the ability to create bursts of speed.

@@neuro5813 Rw9 is really mechanical but he doesn't use it that often. I think we see Zen changing his playstyle a little bit to a more secure playstyle. Zen concedes many goals he doesn't have to where he takes too much risk. So yeah Rw9 is less mechanical and less comfortable for these plays but his playstyle is superior with this defense.

@@hmziyan ? What's your opinion, why do you need johnny opinion here. Do we are debating on the fact that RW9 is a fast player ? absolutely not. We are talking about the new mechanical aerial meta. That would be stupid to claim that rw9 isn't a fast player.

Reminds me of peak oKhalid

Yes, plus his D is huge!

zen's fundamentals are just as solid as anyone else's, and rw9 has the ability to pull off flashy mechanics. it's just a difference of playstyle

@@ryzikx i have to disagree, zen still has a lot to improve in terms of 50s and kickoffs, definitely not at the level of rw9. And although his boost management is pretty good but rw9 is just the best at it imo

I mean it's really nice to see very strict by the book gameplay for that i watch flakes, but this game has been out for almost 8 years now, we mostly know how it will be played but is kinda predictable thus at least for me less entertaining.

@@donyxd3365 thanks mate, gonna check that out

@@donyxd3365 how do I find that ?

@@vinhunned There you go. Start watching from 2:00:00 www.twitch.tv/videos/1753624054

the vod on twitch is offline i guess, i cant find it. i guess Zen got a bit toxic after the match and thats why johnny took the vod offline

@@henry784 whoaaa what happened? Lol damn zen should’ve lost like a man and not been a crybaby. Insane talent but sportsmanship is more important people.

the new fairy peak vs scrub killa

@@typhon1265 i hope

I hope you don't actually watch this for years

@@GeorgeTooCur1ousPeople can enjoy whatever they please, and it’s not your place to say otherwise.

they played against each other at worlds with a 11mn overtime, insane game

so you're saying that Zen never uses his brain ? lmao

Zen doesn't need to change anything. He just keeps getting better as he gains more experience. Maybe next time he will win

zen uses his brain too tf u talking bout he had to against nwpo cuz nwpo out mech out sped him

You're talking trash for nothing, Zen started 1v1 recently and is already pushing rw9 to game 7 thanks to a good understanding of 1v1 strategies.

​@Jeune Légende It reached game 7 because, as you said, Zen is on a learning journey and in every new match he is playing at his new peak level (but RW9 isn't). RW9 has been a top 1s player for a long time and is just stalling it there at the moment, especially with him focusing more on 3s now. What you're watching in this series is nowhere close to RW9's peak.

I knew what save this was going to be before I clicked, insane

Rw9 literally went intangible or smth I watched that three times and still don't understand how he did it.

31:43

Rw9 was like "hmm I'm not like the rest of them, hold my wall!"

It's a game of margins. You know they're fast, and you can feel them being even 5-10% faster to every ball and it's hard for that shock not to add up. Rw9 was smart enough to know there would be adjustment, but I'd still love for Zen to experience another year competitively and have the instincts rw9 showcased here.

@@wesley8599 If Zen can improve his kick-offs he's on top of the world

Nah, it'll be hard to top Fairy Peak vs oKhalid series that ended in game 7 overtime. I mean... Zen bitched out and rage quit cuz he knew he couldn't win in the end.... Fairy and Khalid were both playing perfectly it in a situation where next goal wins, you don't get any more intense than that. Plus they ended it with respect, Zen acted like a child that didn't get his way. I'll never respect bad sportsmanship as "the best" of anything.

@@SA80TAGE zen's toxicity was the best part of it, i think. it was nice seeing him getting clapped and rage quitting at the end. also a great show of mechanics and brains from both of them, and there was a lot on the line which made it very intense.

@@SA80TAGE Exactly what i was thinking, zen has terrible sportsmanship. At least say GG before leaving, also that “Controller DC’d” was a lie. It was just to throw off rw9

@SA80TAGE good thing your opinion doesn't matter. Zen is the best player in the world right now. Cry about it 😂😂😂

⁠@@andrew-do1xjNo RW9 WORLD Right 😂😢😂

Very well said

I honestly think that if zen's kickoffs wasn't this weak he would've gotten the the title

how is zens on a different level if fairy peaks streak was longer lol

@@faolensmith8814 skill ceiling has changed so ofc his playing is on a whole other level, mate

@@faolensmith8814 It should be clear that the players Zen has beaten are at a much higher level. What Fairy accomplished in his showmatch streak was incredible, but it was also long ago.

as electric i agree

@@leoalex2001 exactly, the skill ceiling is different now just as it was then. Fairy peak was ahead if his time just as zen is ahead of his time. But fps streak lasted longer, so you cant sag zens streak is in a whole other level

Even his offense is very good, Its not as good as Zen's or NWPO but really good that you have to respect him. and a out of this world Kickoff game legit a phenomenal 1s player.

I don't think he is better than Zen from what I've seen. Even though he lost, Zen was playing in a much more fun and aggressive playstyle making him more easily punishable. I just think Zen went to cocky into this match thinking his mechanics would always get him the win. But on the other hand Zen had a massive ping advantage so i really don't know, guess we need a rematch.

@@SuperXicor playing ultra aggressive is Zen's choice, so it's not an excuse. He's good at playing the game that way. Maybe Zen would loose for a greater score difference if he played out of his usual play style.

​@@SuperXicor A rematch would be super, But i do believe Rw9 is better while yeah Zen is on a different level offensivly and mechanically not just compared to Rw9 hes ages above everyone else. But he wasn't able to use that and he wasn't able to score as much as he used to do against all the other players. That shows you how good Rw9 was at controlling the game and basically disabling Zen's insane offense he wasn't able to freely take the ball and score insane goals as he did with literally everyone else. That's why i love 1s because its really just a chess game and it shows how good the player is to adapting to different play styles.

@@SuperXicor Rw9 is just better, it's a fact not an opinion

Bro it's not even immaturity at that point did u see how unlucky he was getting, he did absolute bits to even take it to game 7. I would have just forfeited the whole showmatch

@@justbrawlstars762 what do you mean unlucky, this game is not about luck. Rw9 had way more ping than him and still outplayed him… Well deserved win for Rw9.

Absolutely, he needs to learn how to lose and be respectful to his opponents.

rw9 is also a kid

@@descai10 But is way more mature. Zen never said gg in a single game and gave up in two games without saying anything. There's a difference between being a child and acting childish.

you really don't have any spoilers in your comment and i agree

if someone starts reading the comments without watching the video. it's their fault honestly

He lost

​@@xtancxolyou didn't say who

@@hopree2839that’s the joke

How old are you, approximatively ? Its so perspicasse to say that he didnt handle it well, this teenager made a mistake, decided to show maturity and then, there is you, add fuel to the fire. Its even more childish to speak about this again

@@neuro5813 actually most are really professionell for teens. It's ok to be mad for a short time and this wasn't too worse.

​@neuro5813 Well no, he's just explaining what happened for those who don't know

Least you could do is include his follow up tweet saying he apologizes for the last tweet and ggs to Rw9. Give the kid some credit.

@NEURO Chill bro, he said he 'didn't handle it the best way possible', which he didn't. He's not saying he did something terrible, it just doesn't make him look great. He's a kid though in a highly emotional situation. No one is really blaming him for reacting like that

He looked a little too far from the ball in my eyes.

@@soothingseas he woulda had it with a dash fs

Basically, but it could change (even during this split): Rw9 and Trk are respectively the strongest players on their own team, but they obviously play two different roles, Rw9 is a third man and Trk a middle and I will tell you for consistency I would still put Rw9 on top, but again they are different roles so analyzing the positions. The R1 third man is Rw9 and the Falcons' is Khalid, Rw9>Khalid but with a big side note, Khalid although he is definable as an "inferior" player is literally a rock back there and he is super consistent, so although this point goes to the R1 since Rw9 is simply a better player, still Khalid is a very good 3 man who practically never misses. The problem comes in the front there... since ok that Kiileerrz and M7sn are very good players (Kiileerrz if on a good day is really a top player and M7 is also really a good player), but the other two we are talking about are Trk and Ahmad who although they have a tendency to troll during Majors (Ahmad only the last one, Trk generally always disappears at Majors), when they play in their own region and are quiet they are undoubtedly stronger than the other 2 (considering that Trk in form can play for the best player in the world and Ahmad in form is undoubtedly the best first man currently competing) so basically we can say that for the moment the Falcons are a slightly better team than the R1 (performance at the Major does not matter, since the Falcons when playing in Mena are another team. ..), but by little here thanks in part to the presence of a super top player such as Rw9 (moreover the Falcons' type of play tends to hurt the R1) and another problem is that Kil and M7 are not always constant, otherwise they could beat the Falcons since I repeat the gap is small, but above all they have a wall behind them so...btw Zen will truly rule Rlcs xD

difference between Falcons and R1 is Ahmad one of the best players in the world

@@anc3stral.I don’t think u watch all of r1s games. Kileerz is definitely the best on that team and rw9 is a third man similarly to khalid on falcons. Rw9 is better than kileerz in 1s but not 3s, it shows that game modes aren’t always translatable, rw9 has a less aerial offence oriented 1s play style similarly to khalid which is why they’re third mans and less detrimental to their team as Ahmad or kileerz, not calling him bad in any way but just wanted to point out why kileerz is better

@@hamzazilani6398 I don't watch every game, but literally at least 3/4 series every event (so semifinals and finals always practically) yes it honestly didn't seem to me at all like you say, I repeat Kil is a top player if on his day, but at least when I watched (so the games that matter) Rw9 always performed better than Kil, there are times when he is literally left to do 1v3 and still manage to get away with it, plus he is a different kind of third than Khalid, starting with Rw9's main peculiarity which is prejump (something Khalid doesn't even try). Just because you score and try nice plays does not make you the best of the team and especially in this case the defensive phase and the constant drops in performance do not make me put the two on the same level , I honestly do not understand where this statement of yours comes from.

It's a bit odd to assume Zen will clap 3's unless he plays with ZenA and ZenB. We all know how many goated individuals there are vs. RLCS success or lack of.

He's had videos of him talking Abt kickoffs like the evoh kickoff

Abso lutely

Rw9 on tweet 😂

jesus you're not even a bot. You just have that thirsty ass picture for no reason? must be a 13 year old

🤣😂

Lmao even that couldn’t help him losing

Wasn't enough tho

Its not out of nowhere appjack called him the best player ever more than year ago. Also we already know where he is going or better say he already is new vitality player. And we all can se Vitality on top again with him and alpha54

@@grgapro97 Where he goes I moreso meant with his success in both pro play and 1s, but definitely really excited for his entrance to the pro play scene on Vitality

@@IkEisawesome7 he may have come out of nowhere in the english speaking community but he has been known as a top tier player in the french community for a good while (albeit not in 1s). cool to see him getting some recognition from the whole community tho

@@swagie_ Definitely! I can admit I had no idea who he was until recently. Wish I had seen him before

He’s young, it’s a high stakes series and he was pissed about how he played, with time he’ll learn how to lose with grace

Wow is he?! I expect him to completely focusing on his rl career

Wouldn't say clearly considering how close it was. We need a rematch of this series in a few weeks. I wonder if zen can improve his kickoffs by then

@@noname-inspiration Zen vs Daniel or Zen vs Joreuz were also lose and yet I think Zen is better than them. For now Rw9 is the best. Maybe in a couple of weeks Zen will be better than him, maybe without carring about losing his win streak, maybe with better kickoffs or just overall game sense but for now he is not. And yes we definitely need to see rematch.

@@czeresnia2381 zen vs vatira was also very close, but I agree zen is better than Al these players and rw9 is slightly better than zen. First we need zen vs fk, zen vs khalid and zen vs trk tho

I think it's hard to say who is the best. Rw9 didn't play too much because of school. Zen won against Daniel, Rw9 didn't last time. The top 10 are really close and can beat anyone up there. Only Rw9 and Zen consistently win. Sometimes it's a bit of luck or the someone countering the others playstyle like the rock paper scissor back then with Kuxir, Markydooda and Scrub. With his winstreak I would have put Zen in front. Zen definitely is way more gifted and with a slightly more defensive playstyle he will be better than Rw9.

@@ryanlunzen9794 that last bit is pure speculation. With his french heritage ego, I don't see Zen accepting this loss as a lesson and changing. I think he might just try to perfect his current style. And hey, we can all speculate. What if Rw9 learns Dark's insanely fast and smooth movement + his aerial ability on top of his already rock solid fundamentals and defense? His efficiency would double (at least), and it'd be virtually impossible to catch him on 0 boost. Rw9 already has a fortified defense, and being able to change direction and go SS in a split second from a bad landing, like dark does, would make his defense literally airtight. Couple that with Darks ability to jump from, no joke, ANY surface on the field and still get a good first touch in the air, and Rw9 would be the best player to ever touch the game in all its 8 years. No discussion...

fym he had nothing to lose? if he lost he wouldnt be considered the best 1v1 player in the world rw9 had shit to lose too dont be making excuses.

not necessarily since Rw9 was considered #1 in the world

I think Zen should pass the torch to Rw9, let's see if he can reach 10-0 against top players. And if he does, Zen will be his final boss.

@@WeavyCS nigga i think its more painful to lose big ass winning streak rather some random loss. zen is just more hyped up rn

@@donkeykonghustler rw9 has already beaten everybody bro...

He lost his win streak of course he will be mad

Honestly represents about 80% of the 1v1 player base

He’s 14 tho and lost a pretty important thing right here. Not justifiable but, understandable.

Yeah.. leaving early seems like taking out from the other player’s momentum, and it also deprive them the opportunity to get a big victory

@@AA_JonSnowexactly