BENCHMARKS START AT 5:48 Also to answer a frequent question -- I am using the updated vbios with improved performance that AMD sent a few days before launch. I didn't start testing until after that was provided so I didn't mention the performance difference between the original vbios and the updated one. Thanks for watching!! 🙏🙏🙏
"... But long story short, the new vBIOS that Sapphire is recommending for consumers sadly seems to mess up the Linux performance for the worse... " 21 January 2020 AMD Radeon RX 5600 XT Linux Gaming Performance Review - Phoronix www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux-rx5600xt-amd&num=1
I currently have one and I been playing with my friends dat currently have a 2080ti water cooled n my other friend literally have a 5700xt n I hang with them in a lot of games
I am glad that AMD is shaking things up and bringing some competition. Because at the end of the day, regardless of who you back, it's good for us the consumer.
amd is not shaking up much, since 2060 is a 2018 release and ampere is launching soon. expect a huge perf/watt gainn with ampere (new arch and 7nm). ampere will probably make everything but "big navi" doa. amd will respond with pricedrops on all 5000 series cards. it's the only weapon amd has. nvidia are years ahead.
@@Verpal It's a very macro-heavy game with not a lot of micro, which makes it more difficult when people are unfamiliar with the game. If you think of it as an economy war vs a unit war it becomes much easier to play, IMO.
Well considering that 5700 had alot more value than its competition when it came out i had a hunch that this is gonna be another very good value card since its just a cut down 5700.
Wunder, replacing what? GTX 1080 cards are still better, 2016 products, or Radeon doing the same thing now.... surprised? Send in the Clowns surprised???
You're absolutely right, competition breeds innovation and lowers premiums. It always has. Now if we could get the fanboys to understand that we'd get even lower prices but I don't see that happening. Ever.
Built my first PC with Paul.....well I was building it while watching his build a PC video from NewEgg. It's about that time for us to build a new one this year.
@@edrick1976 I got a great deal on a Alienware Aurora R7 i7 8700 GTX 1080 a year ago and gave it to my brother. Until you use it, mature technology is underrated.
AMD has managed to make an extremely beneficial marketing move, selling that card at that price. Good for them! I wish they were competitive higher up in the tiers as well, but maybe it will happen in the future.
Releasing a competitor for the 2060 basically a year later doesn't seem that beneficial to me. And having only a 10$ difference for what 5% avg. performance increase? Not good at all..
@@3rd.world.eliteAJ well, you pay less for more performance, so it is actually pretty good. I assume no graphics card except Intel integrated ones are good in your opinion since you usually have to pay more for more performance.
@@VR-jg5fz well, sure. But then your use case is pretty specific and the market share of VR users who would buy a midrange graphics card is pretty slim. This card is released to the broader public, it is a good card with good performance to an extremely competitive price.
Thank you Paul for comparing the RX 590 to these other cards. I was planning to buy the RX 590 over the 1660 Ti, for my ~$1,100 PC build, but now I think I will invest $90 more to buy the 5600 XT for it seems like a large performance increase.
Thanks for mentioning the recent AMD issues with drivers. Definitely something that needs to be considered. I just built my first PC and decided to go with AMD and had one of the most frustrating learning\trouble shooting experiences I've ever dealt with. Took me something like 4 days before I could get my system fully running and stable. Now that everything is up and running I love my card. I'm just afraid something is going to go wrong whenever I shut my computer off/reboot.
Did anyone else noticed that everytime, it was either AMD AMD NVIDIA NVIDIA, or NVIDIA NVIDIA AMD AMD. No matter that the 5700 and the 2060 KO are more expensive, if the 5600xt or the 2060 beat the other in a given game, they would beat the more expensive competition as well, the price does not reflect the performance expected, it's more about This game favors AMD or NVIDIA more, they're so close to each other that i don't see why would you buy a 2060 KO or a 5700 non XT card.
You can buy a RX 5700 non XT card for around 50-70 dollars less than the 2060 Super and flash the BIOS to the 5700xt BIOS and get nearly the same performance. With the new BIOS updates the RX 5700 in a non reference card like the Gigabyte Radeon Rx 5700 Gaming OC 8G Graphics Card you are getting 2060 Super or better performance for $360.
Was looking for someone talking about this! I guess nvida is the way to go for both VR and normal play not sure why the 5600 fell off on the vr test,my guess is nvida is optimized specifically for VR
Great job on the review. I really appreciate taking into account the real prices of the cards and not just the list price. Also I really liked the "Game Tests Performance vs Rx 5600 XT" chart towards the end. It's easy on the eyes and straight to the point. Sometimes simple is better. Keep up the good work.
I would love to see benches from notably tough games, such as red dead redemption 2. Understanding the other games are popular, they don't speak much to future demands on the GPU.
Great video and good timing for me. I'm putting together my first PC and can't decide on how much of a GPU I need. I'm building a machine for Pr and Lr and some light gaming. I thought the RTX 2060 was going to be my choice but I like the price of the RX 5600 XT. Side note, I think I'm going to drop in the Ryzen 9 3900 in this PC. I also can't decide on a motherboard for content creating.
Great video Paul! I bought the $300 KO Ultra from NewEgg - do you know how much faster the Ultra would perform in these benchmarks? Seems if it's OC'd it may compete more favorably than the base KO?
Thanks, I can rule out the 2060 and 1660 TI for my next upgrade. I just need to decide if I want to go for the 5600XT or spend a little bit more something further up the food chain.
Why would you choose 5600xt over gtx 2060? 2060 is just 30$ more bit you get ray tracing and performance is the same. Somewhere 2060 is better and somewhere 5600xt. It make no sanse.
Srex 117 The majority of buyable 2060s in the uk are roughly £40-50+ more expensive. I have a 1080p monitor so this seems the sweet spot. unless I decide to future proof a bit more. In that case the 5700 or 2070 comes into play. If I can get a 2060 for 10-20 more in April then it might be back in play. Right now for a two year card the 2060 feels like wasted money.
@@MC-hn8yy He didn't have Ray tracing enabled in these tests, Ray tracing has a HUGE performance impact on games when it is enabled, even with the RTX 2080.
Great review as always Paul 👍 One question, though, did you do the BIOS update to the 2600XT as supplied by AMD? Steve over at H.U. did it and got a much better result. Just wondering if you would do a "re-do" with said BIOS update in future.
The GPU clock speeds at ~2:50 are my actual measured speeds, the ones shown in the comparison chart are the stock numbers provided by AMD. I didn't start testing until after they sent the updated vbios, so I never saw the performance of the vbios the card shipped with, and so I didn't have anything to say about the "old" vs "new" vbios performance.
@@paulshardware Thanks for the update, Paul. I kinda like this card, it seems like if the price were around $250.00 +/- it would be a no brainer. Here's to hoping it gets that low....
Is MSI's RX 5600 XT Gaming MX a viable card?? I know it was really unstable at launch but have the new drivers fixed the crashes?? I'd appreciate a video on this card because it seems like a good value for its specs
A shuffle of the GPUs in the 300 space. Loved the intro Paul. Thank you for showing how this new card compares to a later generation RX card. I thought you were taking a break?
Glad you mentioned the ongoing driver issues but it really needs to be emphasized more than one sentence at the very end of the video. The issues ARE NOT solved and are ongoing. There’s no reason to think that this card will magically be fixed when they still haven’t fixed the card it’s based on.
would love to see a review of the 2060 KO ultra. I'm just wondering how it would stack up in this list, and more so what it has over the 2060 KO. It doesn't cost a great deal more and in fact I think is a bit cheaper than the 5700 XT.
Update for AMD 5600XT driver issue at the 3 month point? Planning either a 5600XT or 2060 KO and the drivers make the difference. Also, do you think Jensen's keynote might push current 20X0 prices down as they clear for (presumably) 30X0's?
QUESTION: Are the AMD graphics drivers stable now? Because it's all well and good showing them with higher FPS, but if the drivers are trash so you can't get a stable gaming experience, then them being able to get higher FPS in benchmarks doesn't matter IMO! Would like it if someone could answer this because I'm interested in getting an AMD card if they are better?
@vons terrorists really? So why do reviewers even complain about them? 🤔 Even AMD addressed the subject at CES, saying there finally gonna stop focusing on UI updates and focus on drivers now. 🤨 Doesn't seem like a statement a big company would make for a minor 10% of customers 😅
With the 1660ti now clearly out of the running, I think the already good value of the 1660 Super just went up. Nearly the same performance as the 1660ti, just costs $50 less than the 5600 XT. This is something I don't see alot of reviewers on YT talking about. Great vid as usual though!
This is the best video for helping pick a mid range GPU on YT right now. I looked for two weeks for a video like this. Thanks for helping with my decision.
Yeah, still a Team-Green fan here. The RTX 2060 KO looks to be a significantly smaller card with comparable performance, a win for builders concerned about card size. I also expect prices for all 2060 models to normalize once the RX 5600 XT is readily available. I would have preferred to see the stock (inferior) RTX 2060 come down to the $260-$280 while the more competitive OC versions priced around $300-$320. We'll just have to see what happens over the next few months. (I'm betting we see little in price changes, but it's good to want. I hear it builds character, lol) The price to performance the differences isn't enough to make me jump away from NVIDIA.
Just got this card on Newegg for $279 minus $15 from the discount code, I think it's a good price. Upgrading from my old GTX 1650, it's a blast for me!
@@kritikal3172 9 months later- way past summer - and these gpus are still very hard to get hold of unless you're willing to pay ridiculous prices (uk). Been looking at buying one of these but I'll be lucky if I pick one up much under £400.
Really the best feature that AMD has is Radeon Image Sharpening, it makes games like Far Cry 5 and Resident Evil 2 look a lot better when TAA (temporal anti-aliasing) is enabled. And it can even be turned on/off while in game with a toggle button and also adjust the level of sharpening from 0 to 100%.
Thank you for using realistic numbers on these GPU prices. RU-vidrs have been too quick to just say "This card is going to cost this much," even that's not realistically what happens.
@@Amonny The price drop on the 2060 was a surprise to them, but them giving the 5600 a power boost still makes it a well valued card that I'd personally choose over a 2060.
The 2060 KO is actually a 104-150 die not the 106 die. And it has crazy improvements to creation and blender results. Like 50% check out Gamers Nexus video on the EVGA RTX 2060 KO.
Just got my 5600 xt today. So far quite pleased. Paired it with my new ryzen 3600x, and asus tuf wifi. I did want to know it the red rgb light can be changed though.
G'day Paul, Just thought I'd share the prices for the cheapest of each GPU here in Australia, ZOTAC GAMING GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Twin Fan $439AUD XFX Radeon RX 5600 XT THICC II Pro $479AUD GALAX GeForce RTX 2060 1-Click OC $479AUD Sapphire Pulse Radeon RX 5600 XT $484AUD eVGA GeForce RTX 2060 KO Ultra Gaming $519AUD
I have to go back to work today after the long holiday and now all the 5600xt videos drop.... Step 1 watch Paul's video, step 2 go to work and watch everyone else later when I have time. Have a great day
Of course now there's a 2060 KO "Ultra" for $320 that's clocked a bit higher. Thinking maybe I should hold off on getting anything until the dust settles.
PAAAULLL love the vids building my pc in 2 weeks because of u, do you think you could do a 1500$ build with a rtx 2080 ti, if its even possible with-ought bottlenecking?? Very curious, this pc would be strictly for gaming but pushing the graphics to the max, thanks keep it up big dog!
Hey Paul great video do you rhink the price range is too crowded and too much overlap. As you said partner card will move up and down the result and price. Thank for the great content.
i was actually thinking to buy an amd graphics card and a cpu to build a gaming pc out of them, so this video convinced me that i can build something decent that can run things smooth for few years to come
Navidad fanboy here. So happy team red is doing good and I hope they eventually make a competitor for the 2080ti so that the prices go down and I can afford one 😅😅😅.
Great video, thinking of making a budget build with a RX5600 xt. I have a 1080 ti for my current rig I purchased last year so I could comfortably skip the next few generations of graphics cards on my main rig and so far it's destroyed every game I throw at it at ultra settings. Although I'm only using it for 1080p, I'm using a 144hz monitor so every game runs smooth like butter. I considered bumping up to 1440p but I'm getting so many frames right now I'm not sure if I should do it and sacrifice those extra frames. What do you all think is a better experience? 1080p 144hz, or 1440p around 60 hz?
I'm currently using a 1080P 144hz 25 inch display and I'm very happy with it. Personally I'd rather have a higher refresh rate than resolution. If you already have a 1080Ti why would you build a new PC with a 5600XT? The 1080Ti is a faster card. Unless you want a secondary system than I understand.
I really liked this video, Paul! It might be my go-to choice for those "Hey, can you help me build a computer" requests that I get more often that I thought I would. :-P
Paul your so knowledgeable man, recently got out of the military and am looking to get into gaming more! I don’t have a lot but am trying to build something around 1500. What do you recommend? I don’t trust a lot of people do you sell your builds?
Try a ryzen 3600 or 2600 with nvidia rtx 2060 or gtx 1080 or 1070 or even a 1060 6Gb, 16Gb ddr4-3200. Ryzen only installs on Windows 10. Or ask at community.amd.com/community/support-forums/general-discussion You can use a small screwdriver to put one rice-grain-size blob of thermal paste on the CPU near the center and it will cover the two or three areas where the processor dies are as the paste will spread out when the cooler is placed on it. Thermal paste was designed to fill in the tiny cracks between the heatspreader (CPU casing) and the cooler, not as a primary heat-transfer compound. Too much paste does more harm than good so it's not needed in the corners. Air trapped in the paste is an insulator so if you put on multiple drops or manually spread it you will get air pockets. Use the small screwdriver to straighten any bent pins too. Renew the paste every 12-18 months. (If you get the 3600, 2600, 2200g, or 2400G the Wraith Stealth is a bad cooler. Try the Cooler Master 212 evo or the smaller Antec a40 pro. Thermal Grizzly Hydronaut is a very good paste.) ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-_7PkZwY9PWM.html shows the best x570 motherboards to get. The Asrock B450 Gaming k4 has support for Ryzen 3000 out-of-the-box so speak with the retailer first to confirm that they have the new version and not the old. That motherboard copes with the heat from a 16-core 32-thread Ryzen 3950x. In a few years budget buyers will be able to use a 3950x or better from AMD (but NOT from Intel). A new Ryzen user wrote: “make sure windows 10 allocates enough space for virtual memory because my computer was stuttering for a while”. (I think they mean the page file/swap file. It really means they didn't do so with their old processor.) “My ONLY point of frustration came from some instability I experienced that took me a while to troubleshoot, first thinking it was probably some sort of memory incompatibility. It ended up being an incompatibility with the Windows 10 Ryzen power plan that was installed. Switched to the regular "Performance" plan and its been rock solid ever since.” If the processor idles at a high temperature: in the BIOS disable all 3 options for Precision Boost Overdrive (PBO). Set Windows Power Plan (not AMD's one) for "Balanced". (If you're in the USA you'd get much better service from a proper PC retailer like Micro Centre. They're good to their loyal customers, unlike the cold faceless corporate Amazon. One customer went in to buy a Ryzen 3600x. There were none left so the manager let him buy a 3700x for the same price. It's tech heaven people say: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-0DUUEAAcg4Q.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-3TqLNkLdpGY.html ) www.microcenter.com
Paul, if you're building a new system and struggling to make a choice between the RX 5700 XT, the RTX 2060 Super and the RTX 2070, which would you choose? I am in the process of building a new system around the Ryzen 7 3700X. I want it to be able to handle VR, 4K and 1440 without any issues, but at the same time not cratering my finances. Any suggestions? By the way, I love the channel as it has really improved my knowledge about PCs and made me curious once again in this area. You impart your knowledge without being pretentious and overbearing. Great Job to both you and Joe!
Your price + performance graphs are the BEST content in your videos, being able to get the view of all the options in the market and how to best spend our money is super helpful. Thanks again Paul for all your great content.
Just recently upgraded my 4gb Rx 480 to a used Vega 56 for the same price of a new 5500xt around 2 months back.. Kind of regretting and not regretting getting the 5600xt instead... Still an awesome card though
Was wondering i got a build for 1385 CAD (15% tax included). the parts are: AMD Ryzen 5 3600, with stock fan, Gigabyte B450 ATX AM4, Phoenix GTX GeForce 1660s O6GB, with stock fan, 2x 8gb Kingston 3200 Ram, EVGA 500W Power supply, and Thermaltake ATX H22 mid HDD, Kingston V400 480gb SSD. I also got a Rosewill keyboard and mouse. Is this good or did my local shop rip me off?
for a sub 1500 dollar prebuilt you did pretty good, this build would be like 1100 cad if you built it but I guess you have to pay a little extra for labour
What's better an Rx5600 Xt or a Gtx 1060 super Oc? For 1080p gaming? I'm from the UK so the price difference is £264 for rtx 5600 XT or £365 for an Rtx 2060 super over clocked
@@MC-hn8yy Enabling Ray Tracing has a huge performance hit that even 2080Ti users have to drop back to 1080p just to get a decent framerate. Ray tracing on a 2060 is kinda useless and more of a marketing move. Source: My friend has an RTX2060 and never used Ray Tracing because he didn't like the performance hit.
Second hand GPU's are also a great choice. Bought an Asus ROG Strix GTX 1080 OC a few months ago for arround the same price that you paid for the 2060 (300€). But again, eventually a new GPU will be a better bang for the buck. For now, enjoy your purchase. You got a great deal at the time, that's what matters. That means you pay attention to prices and have knowledge about hardware overall.
Speaking of GPU's. Which GPU's regardless of brand is best suited for running 2-50 inch 4k tv's? Current running a RX580-8gig, I find that when i turn on both screens, it will sometimes freeze the computer, but when I turn on 1 at a time, no issues at all? And if it matters I have a ryzen 5, 2600 but upgrading to the 3800x for photoshop and lightroom purposes.
Good review, it really helped clarify where exactly the product skews line up. All said, I like the 5600 XT, it definitely is the uber 1080p card, and entry level 1440p , perhaps, with the 5700 as the standard 1440 p card, XT version being the Ultra settings, 120 hz card.
One thing I'd like to know is the performance difference, if any, between PCI-E 3.0 and 4.0 vs Nvidia's current offerings as I'd like to know if upgrading to the newer Ryzen chipset is worth it.
Frustratingly enough, I still don't care about this card. I paid like $550 for my 1080 two years ago and I still haven't seen a single compelling video card from either Nvidia or AMD since then. They're either similar price at slightly better performance or slightly better price at worse performance. This entire generation of cards, since the 1000 series from Nvidia, has been a total disaster. I still recommend the RX580 if you can get it around $150.
I can't blame you. There hasn't been too much exciting in the GPU market for ages now. Nvidia just kinda threw out cards left and right to fill all price points and AMD was mostly being quiet. I'm hoping by the end of this year, things start to shake up.
Hi Paul I really appreciate all the information given for this new video card. I do have one question my system that I am building will also be running AutoCAD 2018 and Inventor Pro 2018 along with the Adobe suite. Will the Radeon 5600 XT be a good video card for these applications? The system will have 32 gb of ram and a Ryzen 7 3800X CPU.
Get an Intel CPU. Intel wrote some of the code and Adobe is compiled using the Intel c compiler. So if that throws off your budget you could consider a lower end GPU or save more as a 9900k or 9700 will do much much better in Adobe premiere and AutoCAD
As online shops are going from high price-no stock to possibly correct pricing and in stock as the time embargo 21st January 2020 goes by in their time zones, the online shops in the UK have a few examples of the 5600 xt available for sale more expensive still than a 5700 non xt. So from your video I would actually be better off buying the 5700 non xt although prices will fluctuate as competition in UK stores gets stock I am sure.
Today’s prices: RTX 2060 = £280 RX 5600 XT = £270 (pre-order) Similar performance and price, but I’d take the 2060 for the Nvidia features. BUT, it’s wise to wait at this point as Nvidia 3000 series cards are tipped to be great.
I have a red devil 5700xt. Its a great card, but It had driver issues. Games would frequently crash, random black screens, and errors with gpu response time. I was very tempted to return the card and get a 2070 super because of the issues. Finally after a few driver updates i have not had any of these issues.
Hey, which one shpuld i buy? I have readen that 6 gb of vram will be problematic for new games (rtx 2060), but 5600 xt just is more "hot" and it burns easily. It is my first pc and please respond asap
Paul, you seem to be talking either faster and with more confidence in this video. I enjoyed more than listening to Garth from Wayne's worlds. Keep it up!
I've got an rtx 580 right now, and I genuinely at this point don't know if I should get a 1660 Super or a 5600 xt for my upgrade. I've been using AMD graphics cards for 10 years now, so I guess it'll all depend on if the 1660 prices stay the same over the next few months.
Btw, I know I might sound like an Nvidia fanboy but, If you are going to put a $320 price tag on the rtx 2060 ko because of availability you should use the rtx 2060 ko ultra in the test.
And to be honest - back in the early 2000's AMD was all the rage for me, fanboyism nearly. Since ive had a GTX 660ti and a GTX 1050. Now its time to try out team red again as those GTX 2060 cost nearly 400 dollars in my country due to currency and Corona. It was either this or a 1660 super - glad I waited with the 1660 until i had done some research
