@@siderussmith85It's not VADAs responsibility. They only report the initial findings. It's down to Ryan's team to present the NY Athletic commission with proof of contaminated supplements and unintentional use
Paulie had his woman stolen by his opponent Broner on televised fight. He lost twice in one night on TV , now that's a losing clown. He has no shame he thinks everyone has forgotten his little man status !!
@@JamesPain1203he’s trying real hard to look unbiased towards haney as before. Probox probably made him do it. We’ve seen they can argue any case whether right or wrong, wrong or right.
He also said he chugged that beer before weigh in and “appeared” mentally ill 😂. No athletic state commission gon allow you to chug a beer like that. I’ve learn that from the pros/experts.
Lol I swear y'all hate common sense. You are probably one of those people who believe anything someone tells you. And what does SNAC have to do with Ryan being a cheater?
Victor Conte served time in prison in 2005 after pleading guilty to conspiracy to distribute steroids and to money laundering Víctor Conté help VADA years ago to rebuild itself. Victor Conte is the founder and Chief Executive of SNAC. Devin Haney takes SNAC supplements. Devin Haney has said to the six last opponents in the weigh in that they were too small. The day of the fight vs Regis Prograis, Devin Haney was weighing 165 pounds, 4 pounds over the legal limit, that is 15% of the weight class limit. 140 + (140*15%)= 161 pounds. Pograis was weighing 156 pounds. Devin Haney weighbully Lomachenko and most of the boxing experts said Lomachenko won the fight. Devin Haney could not weighbully Ryan Garcia and got knockdown. When Ryan Garcia get suspended for using illegal substances, the same thing must happen to Devin Haney about the illegal weight vs Regis Prograis. 😊
@@michaelrodgers9064another common sense u can throw in there is haney reached with his “great” jab and ryan countered it with his hook and rocked him hard. Osterine aint gon tell u when to throw that hook 😂
@@noahkings8138that was over an 4+ years ago LOL. Also they literally recommend NSF certified supplements, it’s his fault for this. He better hope they can grab, the same supplements and it’s ostarine in it.
What your saying is true, but Ryan sent in unsealed supplements to a third party and of course they had Osterine in them; He also took a hair sample from himself and got it tested by God knows who and he said it was negative. In all of these instances, The Haneys nor Vada was notified or involved
why is pauli pretending that ostarine contamination is rare when a vada representative literally said that its not uncommon, and [in his opinion] in some cases even intentionally contaminated? paulis been extra pissy ever since he got beat by artem lobov in BKFC lmao
Exactly. You do any bit of research you'll find that Ostarine has been found in a shit ton of supplements. USADA literally put out a "Athletes Advisory" which is a warning.The 60x the legal amount is a weak stance, stop chasing headlines. 60x the amount = 6ng (nanograms) which = 0.000006mg (milligrams). That's a type of level that you would find in tainted supplements, as it has in the past. PS - you need at least 3mg daily to receive any benefit from it. A substance that stays in your system for 9 days at least.
Wait one minute.......wasn't the Ryan supporters saying Ryan turned in his pubic for testing, and it came back negative for Osterine, case closed? But now Ryan is admitting that he took some contaiminated suplements, that he also claimed he never takes? And what happen to Victor Conta, and Bill being the people who set him up? Or was it Vada, and Victor that set him up? Oh hell, I wish Ryan and his supporters would come up with one lie, and stick to it.
I swear Devin has nothing to do with this , guys Devin Loss this is not an argument , the argument is intentionally using or not one carries 2years suspension the other carries 4-6months .
Osterine contamination is quite prevalent. You have probably taken something that has Osterine in it at some time if you take workout supplements. You just didn't get tested.
Ryan said he doesn't take supplements. Also VADA says fighters are supposed have them test any supplements before they take them. Lastly, Ryan and his team said they tested his hair, and it was negative for for peds.
The only thing I don't like about this show is that their bias is always showing, except for Chris most of the time which is why I mainly listen to what he has to say. This show would be much better is the bias was muted a bit but idk if Pauline can do that 😂
Let’s not forget the most forgotten Australian fighter of all time: David Sands. Had almost 100 fights, lost 10, and fought almost everybody. Jeff Fenech is probably the best fighter of the modern generation, with Tim Tszyu certainly entering the conversation.
No legal team or lawyer is going to say “my client did that shit” 😂😂😂. All yall 🤡 went on a victory lap from what his own legal team said. We gotta stop glazing these athletes and wait for facts.
Paulie has condemned him since the beginning. He hasn’t even read the findings that it is common to find in supplements. He can’t admit he got it wrong.
@@kika9585 like paulie said what a coincidence two different supplements on different factories outta everyone and every house in the world those contaminated supplements ended up in Ryan Garcia house lol get real my guy and wake up
@lakernation2704 so he got a waiver, which means they allowed it right? So that means it wasn't illegal for Floyd right? Still didn't adress Ryans iv did you? Did he have a waiver? 🤣🤣🤣
Paulie had to bring up the tainted meat for Canelo. Paulie must have a photo of Canelo in his bedroom and pray for Canelo's downfall every time Paulie sleeps.
“Whoever hates disguises himself with his lips and harbors deceit in his heart; when he speaks graciously, believe him not, for there are seven abominations in his heart.”
The hate is real on this show when it comes to Ryan. The reality is the way ryan won and the amount that was in his system simply confirms that ryan was better that night . They just simply want to dwell on the negative which for them brings them numbers. And also to address the two different products i dont see why if it was ryans own team that provided the products why they would do it themselves that they would provide 2 products. This guy paulie is just thinking with hate and not straight
Ryan said he doesn't take supplements. Why he didn't get supplements tested like vada said boxer should? Man cut it out. The dude cheated. Ain't shit people have an allegiance to ain't shit people.
Victor Conte served time in prison in 2005 after pleading guilty to conspiracy to distribute steroids and to money laundering Víctor Conté help VADA years ago to rebuild itself. Victor Conte is the founder and Chief Executive of SNAC. Devin Haney takes SNAC supplements. Devin Haney has said to the six last opponents in the weigh in that they were too small. The day of the fight vs Regis Prograis, Devin Haney was weighing 165 pounds, 4 pounds over the legal limit, that is 15% of the weight class limit. 140 + (140*15%)= 161 pounds. Pograis was weighing 156 pounds. Devin Haney weighbully Lomachenko and most of the boxing experts said Lomachenko won the fight. Devin Haney could not weighbully Ryan Garcia and got knockdown. When Ryan Garcia get suspended for using illegal substances, the same thing must happen to Devin Haney about the illegal weight vs Regis Prograis.
Rare to be found in sporting supplements 😂 I’m telling you Ryan fans are foolish and I’m not bias Devin Haney is a cheat also! Nobody out on just under two stones In 24hours
Can someone explain if it was really contamination? Why did he pass the previous tests but failed the last test? Did he only take the supplements the week of the fight? If he was taking the supplements all during training camp, why did he pass all the previous tests?
*_@Brandon-kz6yk_* Excellent last question. But, I guess Ryan could say that he just started taking that particular supplement for the Haney fight and not his previous fights.
@@orlandog2463 I believe the study was qualitative, not quantitative, with the only measure mentioned being around 60 times over. It's unclear what threshold of the drug Ostarine provides benefits, as it's not intended for human consumption. Claiming it's not enough to enhance performance is unfounded, given the lack of relevant studies. The presence of Ostarine in the system should make it a no contest at the very least
@kanofactsa5551 that's not true. They said for all ppl under vada to be mindful of supplement Bc they have been having alot of ppl pop for the one substance in alot of things that's why so far just this year 7 ppl have been cleared
Idk what kind of weird chokehold Ryan has on you guys where its impossible for him to try and take PEDs. Or maybe its because the hate for Devin is real. I don’t get it idk when this has happened in sports before
The Wikipedia entry for doping in boxing is shocking in terms of the big names linked to banned substances-though I doubt the veracity and accuracy of it as a comprehensive authoritative source. I’m always reminded of the 1983 Billy Collins Jr v Luis Resto 154 pound bout where Resto’s gloves were tampered with, resulting in Collins receiving a terrible beating. He never recovered and eventually fell into a depression, committing suicide. What will it take for the commissions to universally apply strict consequences for ANY fighter caught?
Ryan Livestreams or tweets about everything. Interesting he didn't when he "submitted his hair sample" or "turned in his tainted supplements" ...Dude showed all the signs before the fight that he was cheating but we missed them. Glad he got caught 👊🏾👊🏾
His 4 previous tests leading up to fight were negative, BS what Paulie is saying about micro dosing, that does not work with ostarine only natural hormones test and hgh. The micro dose of ostarine would show up on the 4 prefight test he showed negative.
Victor Conte served time in prison in 2005 after pleading guilty to conspiracy to distribute steroids and to money laundering Víctor Conté help VADA years ago to rebuild itself. Victor Conte is the founder and Chief Executive of SNAC. Devin Haney takes SNAC supplements. Devin Haney has said to the six last opponents in the weigh in that they were too small. The day of the fight vs Regis Prograis, Devin Haney was weighing 165 pounds, 4 pounds over the legal limit, that is 15% of the weight class limit. 140 + (140*15%)= 161 pounds. Pograis was weighing 156 pounds. Devin Haney weighbully Lomachenko and most of the boxing experts said Lomachenko won the fight. Devin Haney could not weighbully Ryan Garcia and got knockdown. When Ryan Garcia get suspended for using illegal substances, the same thing must happen to Devin Haney about the illegal weight vs Regis Prograis.
That’s the dumbest way I’ve ever seen someone try to accuse someone else of having a bias for or against a fighter😂😂. Because they’re both in the low percentage knockout club😂🤡🤡🤡you doofus
Not all batches will have it. Manufacturers can use the same factory and cross contamination is known to happen. You guys are implying something in a very confident way.
So just Ryan’s supplements from two separate companies were contaminated?! The supplements he denied taking in the beginning. Back when he said he only took ashwaghanda. Ryan fans have replaced Canelo fans as the worst in boxing. This dude is obviously lying and y’all are still defending him.
I'm not gonna go back and forth with you but just tryna help you understand bro. When they test before the fight it is sent off meaning you piss in two different cups then you STILL go out and fight. Once the results come back which takes a little time they let the association know that he or she had PED in their system, it's not an instantaneous test man. Just tryna help you understand because that's all. I come in peace.
You see, that's why I strongly advocate for ' Accepting RESPONSIBILITY for your actions '...I mean, me, personally, if I did it, I have no problem whatsoever digesting the consequences as well. When you put forth untruths, and cowardly attempt to avoid consequences that your hands has crafted, a very vivid picture of your character, who you are, comes to life. Ryan, don't say another word, it's starting to smell like bullshit now...just take your lick, pick up the pieces, and finish kicking ass in the ring!!!
Where is Paulie getting the idea that ostarine is so rare from? Just straight up making it up. USADA and VADA both came out saying that ostarine is a common compound found in supplements.
Showbiz is so far ahead of these guys in informing the boxing community. Vada has tested the samples and said he had nnnoooo intention of trying to gain an illegal advantage. But you guys being boxers u know that Ryan passed all testing by VADA except the last two test which means he didn’t have nor gain an advantage being that the banned substance needs to be in his system in cycles of 6weeks or more to gain any benefits , let’s face it , DEVIN CANT FIGHT FIGHTERS HIS SIZE , and he CANNOT SEE THE DROP LEFT COMMING. Dad has pick the shorter smaller fighter but now We know you can take away Devin’s Jab with the drop left
Showbizz ain't telling yall dumb ass ryan lawyer already said that he isn't outta trouble that NYC commission is going to suspend him anyway because u are responsible for what's in your body 😂😂😂
Show biz has proven himself to be a clown. You can’t test a container that’s already been opened. There’s no telling how it got contaminated once the seal is broken. You don’t test open containers. You test brand new UNOPENED containers to see if there is contamination. The fact that you’re using Showbiz for your info is pretty much confirmation that you’re biased and lack critical thought because that guy is a pandering sellout to the highest bidder.
USADA has a list that lists 22 supplements that contain osterine. 17 of the 22 are unmarked. It's amazing that it is construed as a "rare substance" and it's the number one recreational supplement in the US. The logical first step is to test the supplements and the chain of custody is verified when he reported and officially listed the supplement on the doping form. They will test the lot and go forward. As far as A&B samples. Haney and Conte saved Alicia Baumgardner. Positive for 2 anabolic steroids. Lets keep it fair. 4 negative tests prior to the fight and trace amounts. I'm a grown man and certainly not a blowhard. Mind your manners I already saw you fight bare knuckles. LOL
Why they cappin? It's come out that as of lately osterine has been found in a lot of different supplements on the market. He just sounds mad that Ryan won
Victor Conte served time in prison in 2005 after pleading guilty to conspiracy to distribute steroids and to money laundering Víctor Conté help VADA years ago to rebuild itself. Victor Conte is the founder and Chief Executive of SNAC. Devin Haney takes SNAC supplements. Devin Haney has said to the six last opponents in the weigh in that they were too small. The day of the fight vs Regis Prograis, Devin Haney was weighing 165 pounds, 4 pounds over the legal limit, that is 15% of the weight class limit. 140 + (140*15%)= 161 pounds. Pograis was weighing 156 pounds. Devin Haney weighbully Lomachenko and most of the boxing experts said Lomachenko won the fight. Devin Haney could not weighbully Ryan Garcia and got knockdown. When Ryan Garcia get suspended for using illegal substances, the same thing must happen to Devin Haney about the illegal weight vs Regis Prograis.
On a personal note. I failed a drug test because i took vitamin b supplements made from hemp. I lost my job i know i was clean. I still think ryan cheated.
Now they are just back tracking, in earlier videos Chris said there was plenty of supplements with ostarine not labeled on them. Not defending Garcia, btw.
It’s actually not apparent at all you’re just saying that because he’s hurting your feelings by criticizing a fighter that you like so you pretend that he’s bitter just like you pretend that anyone who doesn’t have the exact same opinion as you about every single little thing is just bitter and just me hating like you don’t do the exact same shit.
