Hello stalkers ! In this video we take a look at a poorly developped faction that only appears in Clear Sky, the Renegades. Who are they and in which way are they different from the bandits ? Well let's find out.
I always considered them as power or money hungry bandits who decided they didn't get enough from the bandits. Awesome video and i'm exited for more renegade "lore".
Yeah that could really be the case, even though the bandits probably make more money by mugging stalkers in the garbage than renegades make in the swamps. Thanks for the comment !
A renegade is a person who deserts, and betrays an organization. So I think they could be Ukrainian Soldiers that decided they weren’t paid enough to guard the exclusion zone border.
When you do missions for Yoga he will try to cheaply reward you with only 1000RU for killing the diggers at the flea market, you can ask for more, then he will send you to that anomaly field where you have that good Kora 919 as a reward, but Borov says that he just gets rid of people that way (the people he sends to that particular anomaly). Also, just read the wiki page for Yoga: "Furthermore, he does not seem to have achieved much coordination amongst his men nor do 'The Boys' seem particularly motivated: Bandit attacks during Clear Sky, and in particular successful ones, are few indeed. The man enjoys mocking fellow Bandits, viciously attacking those in the lower ranks (as seen with Stringov and Spotty) as well as 'getting fat' as Borov would put it. Moreover, it seems unlikely that such an individual would care much for the discipline and equipment of his men: As such, it is likely that the Bandit faction is indeed breaking apart under his rule rather than condensing. Therefore, the Bandit groups in the Agroprom and in Limansk are probably splinter groups of miscontents who were no longer satisfied with serving under Yoga." Don't forget that bandits wanted to mess with Freedom too but Yoga didn't allow it. So, maybe so many bandits got fed up with Yoga that they formed their own faction and attacked the faction they perceived as weakest - Clear Sky (and they were in fact winning before Scar arrived, the situation at the begining is dire). Maybe Yoga didn't, or wouldn't, allow them to attack Clear Sky, just like Freedom.
It’s so fun to play as Renegades in Anomaly. Either you can stay in the Great Swamp and fight Clear Sky, or head to Dark Valley and chill with the bandits
it mostly a oversight from GSC in truth both Shadow of Chernobyl and Clear sky where developed at the same time they wanted to have different bandit faction the idea was scrapped but it seem that for clear sky they stayed and people mostly thing that at the end they where keep for the fact that having them be a different faction wont harm you reputation whit the bandit faction in early game so can still join them later on
I like how this man really gets how the zone works, i play a lot of stalker and still am just confused following the map doing missions and being in awe with the whole place and characters
Also I can see that you commented on another video, the one about what happened between CS and SoC, but RU-vid seems to have removed the comment for some reason, so I'll answer here. All I can say is that more on Lebedev will be explained very soon.
The stalkers explore deep into the zone to find better artifacts and sell them for greater profit. Bandits stay in the border of the zone to steal the money from the stalkers. Maybe the Renegades are a little smarter and they know the value off goods and artifacts is more than money. Thats why they dont stay in one place like normal bandits, they explore the whole zone, looking for the greatest treasures the zone can offer, and the unlucky people who carry these treasures. Be careful stalker, maybe someday when youre returning to camp with good loot you may find the renegades, or they may find you. Good hunting, stalker. Also, I really like the campfire story videos,where can the other stalkers share their campfire story with you? For future videos.
Another thing to note is that the injured bandit is, well, a bandit. But the renegades behind them are... renegades. This implies they shot the guy themselves
I kinda' have this theory popped up: Renegades basically are the outcasts of all other factions whose too crazy/dangerous to be bandits. They are stripped of all their faction's equipment, left with the most barebone stuff to survive, have nowhere to go but the crappiest place cuz pretty much got shot on sight (Great Swamp with lethal anomalies, radiation and mutants and fps too lol). Some of the skilled ventured to Red Forest, somehow killed a bunch of mercs on the way (probably went the agroprom > yantar > dead city > army warehouse route) and made a base there, hence their equipments are better (fenced suits) Later on they got surrounded by Monoliths and have no choice but surrender and get brainwashed into Sin. Well, sorry if I get the lore and stuff from anomaly mixed up in this theory, but I think it's pretty cool ^^
My own fan lore for them is that their stalkers who have been kicked out or left their own factions for various reasons, they're less of a united faction and more like various war bands sticking together for mutual survival. After the events of clear sky the renegades would unite under a stalker name ogre and take over the old base of clear sky securing their area in the swamps.
@@anomalousdugout9557 can you please do a video of The best stalker mods? I am replaying all the games and dont know about any mods or how to install them, I only tried a couple of times when stalker files was still a thing. Greetings from Paraguay 🇵🇾
@@dovahkiin5773 Yes, such a video is planned, but for various reasons it won't come out soon. Maybe I can help find a mod that you would like in the meantime, so what kind of mod would you prefer ? Do you want a mod that only improves the original game, or a mod with a completely new storyline ? Then there are freeplay mods that allow you to create your character in any faction you want. The possibilities are very large, so it's hard to recommend a mod without knowing what kind of experience you are looking for.
@@anomalousdugout9557 ahh I see, I want everything to be new, the complete mod for SoC is the only one I got but did Not change much and the loading time was so long haha
@@dovahkiin5773For a complete revamp of the story of Shadow of Chernobyl, I suggest OGSE which adds a ton of stuff like items, maps, quests, everything. If you would like to bring back a lot of cut content, Lost Alpha and OLR are also very good. If you are looking for a sandbox freeplay experience, you should start with Call of Chernobyl, which combines all the maps from the 3 games and lets you choose your faction. I think those are a good starting point, but there are so many more, so it's up to you to decide.
I know this is a mod I am talking about, so it is outside the scope of the video. However, the other day I was playing Anomaly, and had a really bad fight against Monolith in the Red Forest. After that, I went to explore the anomaly that is inside a cave filled with mining equipment. Some stalkers were there and shot at me, so I took them out. There was also a deceased Monolith member. When looting them, I found that they were "Sin" members. It left me feeling a bit weirded out since I didn't know they were in the game, to begin with (at least, they weren't in the factions you can choose to play as). The mines felt pretty scary after finding that, to make matters worse, an emission came while I was there so I had to stay a little bit longer than expected. This happened after checking Anomalous video on the Sin faction, so I'd rather put as much distance as possible between me and them
@@lucho6883 Sin is an unlockable faction in Anomaly, along with Renegade and UNISG. Progressing the main story as a Loner, Clear Sky, Duty, Freedom, Merc or Ecologist make them available for a new playthrough, or you can just type certain phrases at the character creation menu. The Zombie faction is unlocked the latter way. IIRC their only allies are the Monolith. Without spoiling anything, Sin is usually only found in and around the mines of Red Forest until you've reached a certain point in the main storyline where they become much more prominent and must be dealt with.
I swear, clear sky is like "S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Wars" or something cause the amount of fighting, killing, warfare, and less scary tone in favor of huge firefights. I love the game truly and think its an important game to play but its sooooo different from the vibe of the other games, at least until the ending section of the game that I thought was amazing
The meaning for the word Renegade literally supports your theory that they are bandits who left the Bandit faction or maybe multiple factions. I assume it's like Loners but they do the big bad Renegade - having deserted a faith, cause, or religion for a hostile one
I'm glad you resolved the problem with the sound you had in the previous videos. I never miss any of your videos and I'm happy you are making a progress in the quality as well. Continue the good work mate.
In the fan books there was a Cursed or Damned named group which contained renegades from other factions. I think they are supposted to be this renegades too. But of course the main purpose for them in Clear Sky was gameplay ease only.
The sad thing is that S.T.A.L.K.E.R caters to a very niche market. So it's quite unlikely. BUT FINGERS CROSSED FOR STALKER 2. I feel after it drops, this channel will grow exponentially.
Very well structured video, as always Are you conducting your own research when you put a video together or are you also using the game's wiki page? It seems that you have lots of info that I can't really seem to find anywhere.
Thanks ! I do conduct research and use the wiki as well, mostly to make sure I did not forget anything. All of my info basically comes from the games themselves, unless the video involves a topic which is discusses in other sources such as design documents. So what I usually do is use my general knowledge of the stalker universe to craft the basic ideas, and then I sharpen them by replaying all the sequences that are important to the subject of the video.
In Anomaly Renegades are back, they appear in small numbers around the Great Swamp area I always thought they are either Clear Sky or Military deserters who didn't join Bandits or Loners
If the novels are cannon then it’s possible that after the events of cs they lived on and eventually strider joined them because strider appears in the book under the name renegade of course it’s possible he like however created the renegades just thought it sounded really cool
People always hate the bandits, but they don't seem too bad when you're neutral with them. I dunno. I always picked the good guy options. Like saving the bandit in Limansk.
The Renegade in red forst in my theory cut off their connections with the others, as The Renegade send expert stalkers up north, the experience renegrade became well equip than their counter parts in thr south.
On Wikia it is said that u can be neutral with the renegades from red forest but u need to have relation above neutral with them which is very hard to get without joining bandits. Also some renegades members are mentioned in few stashes in Great Swamps.
I don't think it's a bug, I think it's intended. All the factions in the game eventually respawn when their base is destroyed, so why not the renegades ?
@@perfectlynormalhuman5473 You are supposed to retake control of the swamps, but that does not mean to annihilate them completely. Once you capture enough camps, the machine yard and the southern exit to Cordon, the war is over even if some renegade squads remain.
i like the suggestion that some have made that these are basically the rejects of other factions but are too violent or have too much of a bad reputation to be a loner but too proud to be bandits or dislike the leadership of the bandits
one of these dudes ran into me literally right outside of the train station in anomaly, got lit up like the fourth of july thanks to the guards but I was busy trying to figure out where the hell he came from
For some reason I really like the Renegades. My first STALKER game is Clear Sky and man, was I disappointed that I can't join them. Then I started to play CoC, and kept asking around for adding Renegades as new faction. Good times.
I always considered the renegades to be those who were court martialed by duty or the military, or kicked out of freedom. Along those things, literally renegades who don’t want to be beholden to rules
Judging by the name I've always wondered if they're former military personnel. Essentially the bandit equivalent of military stalkers, i.e. soldiers who abandoned the military to become a bandit like faction. The early game renegades could be new recruits, stalkers specifically, sent into the swamps for the sake of gaining a foothold in exchange for money and gear. "Listen up you lowlifes! You want to make some good money? You want better gear? Then clear out those Clear Sky fuckers from the swamp!" The late game renegades could be the initial rouge solders. The faction's disappearance from clear sky onwards could be explained by the majority of them being killed and military ensuring no more soldiers become renegades. Leading to what's left of the faction assimilating into the other factions.
I always thought they where a loner bandit faction with the early ones being a mix of the nearby factions and the later ones being mercs, freedom, and duty just a bunch a traitors banding together
Well, I'm not sure. The compass was found inside a space anomaly, which was most likely created during the great emission. This means that Forester found the compass after the great emission, and then it was stolen by the Renegades.
Have you been able to find any new info on the Renegades? I have a friend from Ukraine who claims the Russian/Ukrainian Wiki have additional info but I can't confirm
@@anomalousdugout9557 I know this is a very old comment on a very old video, and you likely won't see this reply, but GSC Game World did have a website where you could buy the games plus merch stuff, including patches for the in-game factions. Each patch came with a short kinda of in-universe description, and the description for the renegade patch highly implied the faction primarily recruited from those who either were kicked out of other factions or greatly disliked the other factions. Plus, the definition of a renegade is a person who deserts and betrays an organization, country, or set of principles. "Are you disgusted by the foppish rituals of the Zone groups? You were once one of them, but were cast out? Well, welcome, bro! Now they will have to answer for their mistakes, since we are a group of a new order! And we have nothing to lose!" - Renegade patch description from the official stalker store. Anyways very good video.
@@irishpotatoes1659 I know about this description however I do not believe it should be taken into consideration because it was not made for the game but for the store.
@@anomalousdugout9557 dont kill any bandits when they Want money give them and do job for bandits. Trader is in. Mine there is a sitting man near compass he is the trader
I'm 4:25 into the video when writing this; Wasn't it mentioned somewhere that the Renegade faction is a collection of people so awful that they got kicked out of their original factions and no other faction wanted them? Edit: Alright, so that's not canon, but an assumption made by people, good to know! P.S. Really agree with the hypothesis that they're a bandit off-shoot!
The true lore goes like that: After events of SoC the bandits split in 3 branches: the sin, the bandits and the renegades, in lost builds the Swamps were full of bandits, now there are renegades, compared to bandits they are poorly equipped and don't have a central HQ like bandits and sin, in warfare mode Anomaly, if you destroy the faction, the remaining renegades will become bandits as affilation, I searched on wiki and Discord.(edit: They are not in CoP so they maybe got destroyed or become bandits, in Anomaly they are seen in great swamps and sometimes but very rare you can find them near Red Forest or Garbage.
No, there is not. Women are not present physically and they are almost never mentionned, so it is hard to say if there is actually not a single woman in the Zone or if there are but we just don't see any in game. I don't want to enter into too much details about this topic because there is a lot to say and it's quite controversial, but the reasons for the lack of feminine characters are not known, so we can only speculate.
a little fun fact about a little mistake you made, you Can actually have them non-hostile if you don't kill many of them at the start of the game, and then join freedom and bandits later, they will become neutral to you, tho, not like there's much point to that, I couldn't take any missions for them, nor find any useful characters
Using a sophisticated trainer or delving into the files cam show the relations. Actor_freedom (or was it named actor_svoboda) is completely neutral to renegades by default, actor_bandit seems to be friendly to renegades by default
Well. Truth be told... They are just part of Bandits faction that for the purpose of the Faction war got separate (since player can join bandits later, and fighting with them here would destroy all of player reputation with them and so on, the same goes for bandits in Limansk and other places). That's why all other factions refer to them as just bandits. Option to support the Renegades and re-take the swamp is kind of an exploit since you should have wiped them out.
its also a remnant of earlier draft where GSC wanted different Bandit Faction a lot of idea that was scrapped in SoC survived in Clear Sky since at some point both game where developed at the same time
@@anomalousdugout9557 If they were criminals.... then they should pose some more serious threat, not just be a comic relief. Know this tale? "Monolithians caught a bandit. Half way in red forest they shot him. Why? He was making so much noise even such saints would lose their patience."
I always considered Renegades to be an obstruction in the Great Swamp. I didn't even notice that later game enemies were of the same faction. Personally I would have been comfortable with them being Bandits.
(GSC) ok so we make it so u can join the bandit but that does not make them the main enemy what sould we do (Random employee) just copy and paste the bandits and give it a different name (GSC) yes
I don't know man, i think you nailed it here 2:57 and here 4:02. Stalker games never had a good plot(for exemple reason why helicopters crash in CoP is just... stupid). Renegades indeed look like just generic enemies.
Well yeah but as I said, it's up to us to imagine what the reasons behind such things are. To use your example, the crash of the choppers actually makes sense, and here's why. During the time period around the plot of Shadow of Chernobyl, emissions were very rare, so rare in fact that the only one that occurs in the game (which translates to a period of 2 to 3 months) happens at the end. Because of this, the military has been able to establish maps of aerial anomalies that actually allow their choppers to fly relatively safely in the Zone, as demonstrated by all the helis reaching the CNPP at the end. This method of flying was proven to work for them so they did not question it before using it again in their new operation, and the lack of frequent emissions did not allow the right people to learn about the fact that anomalies change during them. As why emissions were not happening, that is most likely the work of the C-Consciousness trying to contain the Zone, and their disapearrance at the end of Shadow of Chernobyl meant much more frequent emissions in Call of Pripyat.
@@anomalousdugout9557 But zone existed for 6 year, it's enough time to notice that anomalies move after emissions. Assault on ChNPP was a few day after emission(that marked and kruglov survive in shadow of chernobyl) and helicopters was able to reach the power plant... Speculate is fun, just some times there isn't much... I don't know, evidence\material\meat on the bones\substance to some questions
@@anomalousdugout9557 With all that sad, i can't wait to see what's your next "Campfire Story" will be. It's like i'm 13 again and read "local folklore" and listening calm music in 100 Rads bar
@@VaNDaIUKR The Zone existed for 6 years, but the stalker phenomenon only exploded in 2011. Also the emission that happens in Yantar is actually not a true emission, since both Marked One and Kruglov survived and nothing changed in the Zone after that. The single blowout I was refering to is the one that happens at the end during the raid on the CNPP itself. Anyway, I agree that sometimes there is not much information to speculate on, but I think we should take it as an opportunity to imagine ourselves the answers to our questions.
I might think that renegades are the more poor than bandits Duh And they might could tried to starts a new life like not robbing people, get a job,rich and retire from they're work
Faction system in clear sky was so bad there was no point to join a faction because if you join a faction you make game for yourself harder because the faction you join is at war with other faction and they will attack you no matter what. if you are duty then freedom attacks you if you a freedom then duty attacks you and same with stalkers and bandits and if you join you can buy some unique gear from their traders but its really not worth it atleast faction system was a little better in call of pripyat but thanks for interesting video.
I think it's true that not joining any faction makes the game way easier, but after completing the game a few times, it makes it different and more interesting to try to join different factions. It gives a new experience and increases replayability, and it also adds a good dose of extra challenge that some players actually like. For example, it is a real achievement to complete the game as a bandit with everyone being hostile to you. So I would say that it really depends on personnal preferences.
@@anomalousdugout9557 heh thanks for response but i thnk i pass playing as bandit faction considering that bandages are very rare and wound healing artifacts can be found much later in the game
@@anomalousdugout9557 there's a little story that i believe one of the loners tell which goes like this : "People say there's no girls in the Zone, but they don't know what the fuck they're talking about. There's plenty, they just have to hide it well, you know? It's a damn shame it has to be like that, but here there's no order and these sex-starved maniacs will do anything for a thrill. It's fucked up. I was with a group one time, and this one person I just knew was a lady. There's little signs.. she'd always go away from everyone else to do her business, and always wore a gas mask to cover her face. Armor isn't very form-fitting so she didn't have to worry about that. This one guy we picked up managed to figure it out aswell. Fucker tried to rape her. I was woke up by a struggle in the middle of the night. I thought a mutant had got into the camp or something, but he managed to jump her while she was on guard duty and tried to have his way with her. I blew both his kneecaps off with my shooter and left him for dead. Some assholes just don't deserve the gift of life."
In Anomaly, all factions have a "reason" for being, even SIN has a different objective and feel than Monolith. But Renegades are just crappier bandits; they don't have a base, they don't have a leader, they are very few and they have crappy equipment (Unisg is mostly the same but they have top tier equipment). They are also the only 'bonus' faction that doesn't have a questline centered around them because of how unimportant they are. Even their description is lame. 'People kicked out from their factions, even bandits only tolerate them' but then they act and feel like normal run of the mill bandits. Such a waste. pd: Clear Sky best faction
I always felt that Renegades, and even Clear Sky and SIN all felt like poorly fan-written factions. They're all kind of just unnecessary you know? Renegades= Piss weak bandits Clear Sky= Piss weak ecologists/loners SIN= just lol, edgy monolith. This is just my opinion though.
