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(S0 Ep81) How To Build A PVC Rod Holder For Hobie Outback 

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This is a remake of my "Building A Custom PVC Rod Holder For A Kayak" video. But this time I'll talk you through the build and use simple tools.
Items Needed:
5' piece of 1.5" schedule 40 PVC
4 cross fittings 1.5"
8 couplers 1.5"
4 elbows 45* 1.5"
2 elbows 90* 1.5"
PVC Cement
I can't fish without my Rocket Launcher. This is literally one of my first adds to the new Outback. The fit and look of this simple project is amazing! And best of all super cheap!!!
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@catstroke
@catstroke 5 лет назад
Terrific, Thanks for taking the time to put this step by step including parts list together! And Thank You for your service!!
@Frangelico009er
@Frangelico009er 7 лет назад
Thank for your time and effort helping us on these great ideas, and thank you for your service...
@MDLRFishing
@MDLRFishing 7 лет назад
Thanks for the support!
@jimmccawley7843
@jimmccawley7843 7 лет назад
Good job. If you want to get the wheels out of the way add two tees pointing back, slide wheels in, wheels now laying flat wheels toward back. You just picked up tons of space behind seat for gear, tackle. I did it...works awesome.
@kostakigogos
@kostakigogos 6 лет назад
That pvc flaring technique is awesome. Definitely going to be using that to build the rod holders for my setup.
@MDLRFishing
@MDLRFishing 6 лет назад
Good luck with the build.
@dukeaboy829
@dukeaboy829 6 лет назад
Absolutely the best DIY rod holder build I've seen...really nice job!!! And you can add me to the list of a buyer if you ever decide to make and sell them....
@Marcos_reyna
@Marcos_reyna 5 лет назад
Thanks so much!!! Just made one for my pa14 and it looks amazing!!!
@build.drive.fish.
@build.drive.fish. 7 лет назад
Awesome job. Glad to see another Veteran with the same passion. Retired U.S. Air Force here ;)
@MDLRFishing
@MDLRFishing 7 лет назад
Thanks, I'm loving life right now!
@buynsell365
@buynsell365 7 лет назад
That looks great man !!! I am going to build one for my boat this weekend. Thanks for sharing.
@MDLRFishing
@MDLRFishing 7 лет назад
Hope it turns out well!!!
@jack200955
@jack200955 5 лет назад
Love it ... I am going to try it myself soon . Thanks for the motivation bud
@richardbrown986
@richardbrown986 4 года назад
So many variations of this set up you can build , great video!
@MDLRFishing
@MDLRFishing 4 года назад
Thanks
@tattoodtanker
@tattoodtanker 7 лет назад
You just gave me inspiration for my Jeep.
@1082will
@1082will 7 лет назад
Awesome work I am going to try and make some and most of all thank you for your service
@MDLRFishing
@MDLRFishing 7 лет назад
Thank you for supporting my channel!
@redaryan9719
@redaryan9719 5 лет назад
Well I know what I'm doing over the Christmas break now thanks for posting video
@ChrisDavis-dt6xx
@ChrisDavis-dt6xx 2 года назад
Black and yellow look great together
@emmaochoa1380
@emmaochoa1380 11 месяцев назад
Super rigid fully functional nice looking rod holders .
@MDLRFishing
@MDLRFishing 11 месяцев назад
Thanks 👍
@GAFINN2011NJ
@GAFINN2011NJ 5 лет назад
Speechless (that's the best comment I can give because you did it all and you did it right!!!)
@rogly90
@rogly90 7 лет назад
nice! i gotta make one for my oasis. i was just going to attach rod holders to a milk crate and strap them down in the back but i think you may change my mind how i want it done. great video keep it up
@MDLRFishing
@MDLRFishing 7 лет назад
Thanks for the support buddy!
@ronaldchaplin4793
@ronaldchaplin4793 7 лет назад
Thank you for your service
@Ken-wv2wg
@Ken-wv2wg 3 года назад
Great guy to share that info. Real nice!
@finniantallon4532
@finniantallon4532 4 года назад
Thank you for your service 🙏🙏
@officialWWM
@officialWWM 5 лет назад
Nice job! You should hydrodip them with a cool design.
@paulrees4232
@paulrees4232 7 лет назад
Built a rod rack I also did a removable Nav Light I fish at night a lot . Sprayed mine with Rustolum bed liner , gives a ruff finish .
@MDLRFishing
@MDLRFishing 7 лет назад
I bet the that look is beast!
@anthonymcmahan6373
@anthonymcmahan6373 4 года назад
Thanks for your service
@MDLRFishing
@MDLRFishing 4 года назад
Thank you!
@RogerBankerFishmiser
@RogerBankerFishmiser 7 лет назад
Great Job my friend! Looks Awesome.
@MDLRFishing
@MDLRFishing 7 лет назад
Thanks!
@RynosWorld82
@RynosWorld82 6 лет назад
Love the build and vid man!...inspired me to build my own on my channel...ive got a little tip for you for the future when you go to paint PVC, im a plumber, once you are done and have it all glued up...take some clear pvc cleaner(its a primer)..and go over the whole thing then u can paint without sanding...it takes the outer coat off and prepares it to recieve the paint better...just my two cents...again awesome build and video
@MDLRFishing
@MDLRFishing 6 лет назад
Nice, thanks for tip! It's a pain to sand pvc. Good luck with your build!
@TexanGuy
@TexanGuy 7 лет назад
Fantastic video Mark, I need to make one of these!
@MDLRFishing
@MDLRFishing 7 лет назад
It's an easy build Devon.
@flannelguydiy6458
@flannelguydiy6458 7 лет назад
Nice job Mark! I was getting ready to make a similar video for the rocket launchers on my PA.
@MDLRFishing
@MDLRFishing 7 лет назад
Eric, they're super easy to make.
@flannelguydiy6458
@flannelguydiy6458 7 лет назад
Agree.... I made mine a few years ago out of PVC too. Not sure if you took notice when we were fishing a few weeks ago. I set mine back a bit really because I have long arms and it is easier for me if the rods are not right behind me. Also because I left room for a cooler right behind my seat. It just worked out for me that way. The best part about making these is that it is totally custom and PVC is easy to work with. Great job in showcasing yours to everyone.
@Labyrnthdom
@Labyrnthdom 6 лет назад
i built a set 3 or 4 years ago for pa12. Glued all fitting but 1 90. You put stainles sheet metal screws to hold it together. And so you can take it off if you want to later.
@MDLRFishing
@MDLRFishing 6 лет назад
That's a great idea!
@Labyrnthdom
@Labyrnthdom 6 лет назад
MDLR Fishing Instead of the 45`s i used another set of 90's so it can sit back further and go around a milk crate. Sure wish I would of made. a video of it and posted it. But yours is exactly how mine was done. Besides the little changes i made. Great vid....
@davidmurchie5346
@davidmurchie5346 6 лет назад
Good job. Thanks.
@dcastrofishing9865
@dcastrofishing9865 7 лет назад
Awesome diy vid. Keep up the great content.
@MDLRFishing
@MDLRFishing 7 лет назад
Thanks for the comment!
@curtisblair7618
@curtisblair7618 6 лет назад
Nice video man, thanks 👍
@paulrees4232
@paulrees4232 7 лет назад
On the Outback you can up grade the center hatch too a rectangular one 98-100$ . And you can get a molded bucket that fits nicely . Hobie makes hay on assessories for sure .
@MDLRFishing
@MDLRFishing 7 лет назад
They do overprice their stuff for sure!
@tellomalave9823
@tellomalave9823 2 года назад
Yo te recomendaría colocar un pasador para aguantar el puente que se mueve de frente hacia atrás, para que no se valla a virar, pero tu invento es muy bueno👍
@BAKERHUSKIE
@BAKERHUSKIE 4 года назад
Looks a lot better than store bought
@ChrisDavis-dt6xx
@ChrisDavis-dt6xx 2 года назад
I like the black paint
@210fishing6
@210fishing6 5 лет назад
Nice Iam going build one for my ascend 128t kayak
@bigstars2
@bigstars2 6 лет назад
well done,i love your idea.
@MDLRFishing
@MDLRFishing 6 лет назад
Thanks!
@LongviewGarage
@LongviewGarage 6 лет назад
Cool video. FYI: A 45 is an elbow (or ell as we call it in the pipeline industry)
@fishn365
@fishn365 7 лет назад
Great job and video!
@MDLRFishing
@MDLRFishing 7 лет назад
Thanks for watching!
@johnevangelista3528
@johnevangelista3528 3 года назад
Mark great job! Did you make your cuts first in the PVC before you heated it or did you heat it first. Also, how did you get that nice rolled look around the edge of your cuts?
@FernandoHernandez-gf8nh
@FernandoHernandez-gf8nh 4 года назад
Nice... Thanks for the tip...
@WuFaceProductions
@WuFaceProductions 4 года назад
Why do you use the couplings on your vertical ends of the cross pieces? Do you find that it makes it more stable or is for visual aesthetics? Thanks for the video, I plan on using your idea with a few adjustments of my own.
@MrBlue-ib7oi
@MrBlue-ib7oi 6 лет назад
just a suggestion that i saw somewhere else. cut a slit to the 4" mark instead. that will allow the pvc to fit in the hole snugly.
@highvoltageclimber
@highvoltageclimber 7 лет назад
Hey Mark great setup, cant wait to see it on the water. Can you show us the actual damage on the pro angler 12, can it be repaired? Are going to keep it as a spare or junk it? Great videos by the way keep it up.
@MDLRFishing
@MDLRFishing 7 лет назад
There's a small indentation on the bottom side towards the rear of the kayak. I've put her on the water overnight with 200 lbs of weight and no water taken onboard. So i'm keeping it as a spare. I'm still skeptical about putting all my expensive gear on her for a 10 hour day. But once I do a trip on her with nothing onboard and everything goes ok, I may start filming on her again. Keeping my fingers crossed!!!
@fishinpharm2991
@fishinpharm2991 4 года назад
Would it be possible to cut a slit in the pvc portion that goes into the molded rod holders? Seems that depending on the width of the saw blade it could also work....thoughts?
@rjvjr01
@rjvjr01 4 года назад
Use a heat gun to hear your PVC tubing . No heat scorch marks .
@timmillsstaff2452
@timmillsstaff2452 Год назад
nicely done
@MDLRFishing
@MDLRFishing Год назад
Thanks!
@ajays327
@ajays327 2 года назад
Any idea if the hobie trax 2 cart will also fit with these dimensions ? I think the tires are bit larger in diameter
@sandersjones1577
@sandersjones1577 4 года назад
Man that’s nice I love to fish and owned a boat r 2. But I’m afraid of that I don’t swim.
@PaulGrayson-gi8pu
@PaulGrayson-gi8pu Месяц назад
Great video, would you not just use black pipe? Here in the UK you can get black or white pipe.
@jjlynn6161
@jjlynn6161 3 года назад
Very nicely done. Is that a safety/visibility flag at the aft of the kayak?
@mcopilot
@mcopilot 4 года назад
Thanks i am building it today
@missiletm
@missiletm 2 года назад
Great video! Will the hobie livewell fit pr does it need mods?
@AndrewGrant1965
@AndrewGrant1965 4 года назад
Good afternoon, did you still use the lightning kayak
@terrinewman7390
@terrinewman7390 7 лет назад
Lowes also gives a veterans discount! at least here in Kansas. I bought an Oklahoma Joe smoker thats how I know.Like the videos ,I'm thinking of a sundolphin10 to test the waters so to speak?
@MDLRFishing
@MDLRFishing 7 лет назад
Do it! You'll love kayak fishing when you get that first fish that tows you around.
@GetOutTheHouseGoFish
@GetOutTheHouseGoFish 7 лет назад
Nice job. Subscribed
@MDLRFishing
@MDLRFishing 7 лет назад
Thanks for the support!!!
@GT_Racer347
@GT_Racer347 3 года назад
Nice!
@rubenmartinez3580
@rubenmartinez3580 7 лет назад
You should sell them. I'll buy one I have a pa 14
@seenscott20
@seenscott20 7 лет назад
Thanks for the video . I just built one thanks to you !!! . Question, why didn't you use the black pvc instead of the white and painting it afterwards. I built exactly as you instructed . I just thought about it afterwards about using the black lol
@MDLRFishing
@MDLRFishing 7 лет назад
The black just doesn't look as nice when put together.
@jesseranals589
@jesseranals589 6 лет назад
Black PVC pipe breaks down incredibly fast and sunshine and becomes very brittle
@bgat911
@bgat911 11 месяцев назад
Very nice build and I will be building one for my kayak... the cost however is nowhere near the $30 or so be ause just the 4 cross joints cost $8 each... I bought a 5' section of 1 1/2 pvc, 8 couplers, 4 cross joints, 4 45's, 2 90's, and 4 3nd caps, pvc glue and it came out to $94... oh and a 5 gallon lowes bucket...
@mexican707
@mexican707 5 лет назад
For the cannons can I make them out of 2 inches ?
@redvarmint123
@redvarmint123 7 лет назад
When making the reel grooves on he top of the rod holders, do I take a certain size drill bit to drill a hole first in the pvc and if so, how far down on the pvc do I go down on the pvc? Basically, how do I make those reel seat grooves in the PVC? Thanks
@MDLRFishing
@MDLRFishing 7 лет назад
I use the biggest size drill bit in the set. It only has to be big enough for the spinning reel seat neck. You could also try using a dremmel and cutting wheel. As far as depth to cut, I go almost halfway through the coupler. Thanks for watching and good luck with the build!
@adilsonrinaldo8271
@adilsonrinaldo8271 3 года назад
very nice,tank`s
@MDLRFishing
@MDLRFishing 3 года назад
Thank you! Cheers!
@gupp97
@gupp97 2 года назад
Hey man where are you stationed at? I’m active as well down in Pensacola Florida
@attiumeyami417
@attiumeyami417 6 лет назад
looks so nice but the only issue I see with it is that it kinda restricts you a bit from accessing any cargo in the back (cooler, or live well that is usually back there) I have a hobie adventure island and have a nice big space to put any cargo in the back and this would restrict my acess to anything in the back I cant imagine an outback or revolution that is much smaller. I think it woult be better if it curved around the back of the boat on my hobie it would be a nightmare because the rods would be so far away but on yours it would be ideal because your gear would be in front and your rods would not be too far back. Idk just my two cents. Anyways thank you for your service. oh and watch out for those carts wheel carts u are using that go through the scupper holes. They will be the end of your hobie. I had the exact same one and it made a hole right in the scupper hole of my (now sold) revolution. I had to take it to a hobie dealer, get it fixed for 150$ and I couldn't even sell it for 800 because no one wants a boat with a hole in it no matter how well its been fixed, without a massive discount.
@MDLRFishing
@MDLRFishing 6 лет назад
Yes it most definitely restricts the use of the rear storage.
@baothaitai2098
@baothaitai2098 3 года назад
how much for pvc rod holder? can you please make me one for my hobie mirage outbak 2021 please
@dustinstanford1934
@dustinstanford1934 5 лет назад
Looks great! Great job brother. How did you cut the notches out? Definitely going to try and build one for my yak.
@MDLRFishing
@MDLRFishing 5 лет назад
Used a 1” drill bit on a drill press.
@dustinstanford1934
@dustinstanford1934 5 лет назад
Ok cool. Thanks for your reply.
@fifis101
@fifis101 6 лет назад
You should use tees instead of the 90 degree elbows so you have two extra rod holders
@GAFINN2011NJ
@GAFINN2011NJ 5 лет назад
I'm going to use that idea because I was looking for an extra space to hold my anchor (for quick deployment). I'd also add permanent bungie cords so that I can secure all the gear when I'm not fishing or if I hit big surf (Have you seen those guys who roll in the surf and spend the rest of the week looking for their gear?)
@reinaldomoll
@reinaldomoll Год назад
I'm going to do that for my net for sure!
@RodNPaddle
@RodNPaddle 5 лет назад
Nice
@welcom688
@welcom688 4 года назад
Thanks for sharing. How did you cut the groove?
@MDLRFishing
@MDLRFishing 4 года назад
Large drill press with 3/4” drill bit.
@seanpaschal
@seanpaschal 4 года назад
How did you flare out the pvc?
@miguelcolon4440
@miguelcolon4440 5 лет назад
Sweet. Have you made one for the 2019 Outback? If so, are there any dimensions changes?
@MDLRFishing
@MDLRFishing 5 лет назад
I haven't made one for it.
@angelramos8363
@angelramos8363 5 лет назад
I just bought a 2019 Hobie Pro Angler. Will it use the same items?
@MDLRFishing
@MDLRFishing 5 лет назад
Yes but you need to add one more cross fitting.
@fernandodfweb
@fernandodfweb 4 года назад
Hello guy! What are the pipe cut sizes
@brandon1448
@brandon1448 6 лет назад
Hey there! I painted mine but they chip super easily. Does this happen to yours? If not, what paint and how did you do it? Thanks!
@MDLRFishing
@MDLRFishing 6 лет назад
I sanded it and used a pvc spray paint. Holding up pretty well.
@SFLFishing
@SFLFishing 6 лет назад
Hey Great Video! I am a new kayak fisherman and want to make this rig. I have the hobie compass. Do you think the same dimensions will work? Thank you
@MDLRFishing
@MDLRFishing 6 лет назад
I’m not sure, I don’t know the dimensions of the Compas.
@FishBros14
@FishBros14 2 года назад
Prices went up so much since when you did it five years ago that I paid $88 just for the PVC piping and stuff
@hobieri3892
@hobieri3892 7 лет назад
Great video! I want to do it but am concerned that I will have trouble getting to all my gear in my milk crate in the back of my outback. Have you figured out gear storage yet? The circular storage area below the knees is not to practical.
@MDLRFishing
@MDLRFishing 7 лет назад
I rarely place gear back there. The hardest thing I put back there was my minnow bucket and I didn't have to much trouble getting to them.
@dennissullivan2983
@dennissullivan2983 7 лет назад
Thanks!
@GuyandMarcie
@GuyandMarcie 3 года назад
Is there blueprints on this or size of pipe
@mindyburns7536
@mindyburns7536 11 месяцев назад
I just made one for my Native kayak. Did you put anything on the black spray paint to keep it from rubbing off? I think I'm really going to like it. 😁
@MDLRFishing
@MDLRFishing 11 месяцев назад
I didn’t
@mindyburns7536
@mindyburns7536 11 месяцев назад
@MDLRFishing not to bad if I say so myself. 😁
@mindyburns7536
@mindyburns7536 11 месяцев назад
@MDLRFishing oops, tried to attach a picture.
@WIP6992
@WIP6992 4 года назад
Blow torch, lol. Good idea.
@MDLRFishing
@MDLRFishing 4 года назад
👍
@kenbaker1635
@kenbaker1635 7 лет назад
This looks great. One quick question... when you flared out the top with the bottle how did you cut out the small gap for the reel handle? Dremel or something similiar?
@MDLRFishing
@MDLRFishing 7 лет назад
I used a large drill bit, I think it was a 1 1/4". You can also use a dremel if you have one.
@genehughes-MyNewPlanB
@genehughes-MyNewPlanB 5 лет назад
@@MDLRFishing I bought all of the stuff today for this incredible build you have shared...I was scratching my head on how to make such clean gaps for the reel handles. I figured I would find my answer somewhere in this thread! I'm putting this on my canoe...Thanks Again for the share!!!
@MDLRFishing
@MDLRFishing 5 лет назад
@@genehughes-MyNewPlanB I had access to a drill press with a 1 1/4" drill bit. A rotozip or dremel should work.
@genehughes-MyNewPlanB
@genehughes-MyNewPlanB 5 лет назад
@@MDLRFishing Awesome...Thank You!!!
@brucestarr4438
@brucestarr4438 5 лет назад
Go to Harbor Freight and pick up a Heat Gun. More control and you don't burn the pipe.
@epifaniomoreno9123
@epifaniomoreno9123 7 лет назад
i would like to buy one if possible I have a camo outback 2017.
@MDLRFishing
@MDLRFishing 7 лет назад
Trust me I would love to sell them but shipping and the price I would have to charge wouldn't be worth it for you. I'd recommend you trying to build it yourself and saving the money. It's a super easy build.
@terrinewman7390
@terrinewman7390 7 лет назад
you can have only one but they also give seniors and price match,all of which is 10%!! just ask!
@MDLRFishing
@MDLRFishing 7 лет назад
Thanks for the info.
@Anthony-jh5xc
@Anthony-jh5xc 6 лет назад
This is good for fishing in a pond but what happens when you launch in surf and you capsize, even if you poles are tethered. and your in 4' or 5' of water? I think having 4 rods on board is not realistic in that situation and a rod tube is better, where you rod is below in storage.
@MDLRFishing
@MDLRFishing 6 лет назад
Great observation, This rod holder shines during inshore use. I don't use it for offshore because of the probability to break a rod if I turtle going out or coming back in. A rod tube is out of the question on this kayak, you must have a non Hobie.
@lachyelmulatiko7435
@lachyelmulatiko7435 6 лет назад
Would you try to build one athat work with the livewell
@MDLRFishing
@MDLRFishing 6 лет назад
I haven't
@mcopilot
@mcopilot 4 года назад
are you able to remove the rod holder or is it stuck there?
@MDLRFishing
@MDLRFishing 4 года назад
completely removable.
@mikea6964
@mikea6964 6 лет назад
You may have said it in video and I missed it, but is this removable? I want to build it but don't want anything permanent
@MDLRFishing
@MDLRFishing 6 лет назад
Yes completely removable.
@johndonovan5894
@johndonovan5894 4 года назад
Great build, only thing being however that spray paint won't stay on there till cat licked his a.
@Brocfrank
@Brocfrank 2 года назад
how much you charge to make one?
@jimmyceltic4120
@jimmyceltic4120 7 лет назад
cool channel surprised you don't have more subscribers
@MDLRFishing
@MDLRFishing 7 лет назад
I'm trying, guess it's just gonna take some time to get my name out there. Im here for the long haul though. Thanks for watching!
@jimmyceltic4120
@jimmyceltic4120 7 лет назад
MDLR Fishing You definitely will really good vids
@Dr.Ratio69
@Dr.Ratio69 5 лет назад
Nice, but how to paint
@turkeycreekknives133
@turkeycreekknives133 4 года назад
Get can of etching primer in paint department prime and paint but could just 320-320 sandpaper then spray same process I us to hydro dip items hope helps you out
@zbazz8
@zbazz8 2 года назад
A heat gun is better than torch to heat the pipe
@lilo2628
@lilo2628 Год назад
Only 4inches of depth?
@tonynegron3631
@tonynegron3631 3 года назад
Hello sir I have a 2021 p12 that my mom bought me would you sale me one for it my dad is no longer here thanks.
@fishnewhere387
@fishnewhere387 7 лет назад
So i thought the PA was toast, did the hull not crack?
@MDLRFishing
@MDLRFishing 7 лет назад
No cracks just heavy stress marks where she was bent out of shape. Was told that the plastic has been compromised and could give out when I least expect it.
@fishnewhere387
@fishnewhere387 7 лет назад
MDLR Fishing id take it to a repair shop. they make color matched repair sticks. have them scrape out the stressed areas and fill in with fresh material. just how a crack would be repaired. really enjoying your videos. keep up the great content. if your ever in the Boston area hit me up.
@MDLRFishing
@MDLRFishing 7 лет назад
Thanks! I'll keep you in mind if I go up there. Thanks for the support!
@fishnewhere387
@fishnewhere387 7 лет назад
MDLR Fishing so looks like I need to repair my as well. I have a super thin material at my bow I need to beef up. one bad bump away from giving up. I'm going to use a product called 655 g/flex , I'll be making a video on it. I'll link you in the comments.
@bouncingaroundwithbrad3134
@bouncingaroundwithbrad3134 3 года назад
Would this also work to the homie compass?
@bouncingaroundwithbrad3134
@bouncingaroundwithbrad3134 3 года назад
Hobie compass*
@bouncingaroundwithbrad3134
@bouncingaroundwithbrad3134 3 года назад
Never mind the compass rod holder spots are 1 7/8 not 1 1/2
@paulrees4232
@paulrees4232 7 лет назад
Built one
@MDLRFishing
@MDLRFishing 7 лет назад
Nice!
@glennwhitaker9592
@glennwhitaker9592 7 лет назад
Why did you use 1 1/2 pipe instead of 1 1/4 pipe.
@perfectworld111
@perfectworld111 6 лет назад
I think he wanted it to be as snug as possible in the holders.
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