Thanks guy's spoke with you at Kzoo and was great to meet. I enjoy all your videos and have picked up some good tips that have helped my form a whole lot. keep up the good work.
I still think if possible you should test drive a A&H longbow. I'm loving mine but still want a Great Northern Bush bow in the near future. Is there a vid with the heavy arrows you mentioned. Would love to see how they shoot.
+Dave Nash which arrows? The 750 grain Larch arrows? I use those in the 75-yard shot video, as well as the "Effective hunting range" video. Love these arrows, but know I can't shoot beyond 15 yards. Too much drop out of a 47# LB. I use them for turkey and deer hunting, as longest shot is about 12 yards. Great looking arrow though, and hits HARD!
To make the modified string I braided some B50 brown and it looks like a natural part of the system. The B50 can stretch a little but the pressure on the string is minimal and can be shortened later. A little work up front will pay your back by extending the bow life and taking the attention off the clicker and onto your results.
I found that the clickety klicker was actually cutting into my bow string. when I released the string would actually make contact with the device and so it began to fray. I think the farther out on the limb you place it the more you will harm the string. just some info for those looking to buy this or have just started using it. keep an eye on your bow string.
Hi Joe - Hi Dan! It was great meeting you guys at KZOO. Nice vid on the Clicker. I ended up walking out of KZOO with that Lil' Creep that I was test shooting. It's a real shooter. The Expo was great and I can't wait till next year. Maybe I'll take part in the 3D shoot. Steve
Hey Guys, just a reminder that clickers are not legal during "Traditional" competition events but ,they do work very well helping to cure target panic!
I have submitted some replies below. I wish some would listen to what you are saying and not just jump on the "not traditional" bandwagon so quick. It is a training aid, no more, no less. Shot control will keep TP at bay. Those who don't suffer from it are very lucky. Those of us who do, really appreciate a consistent draw length. The lessons learned are learned quickly because we don't take into consideration what the bow arm does to shorten the draw or lengthen it on every shot. Excellent video and should help those who want to be helped with consistent draw length.
Clickers is something that trad archers should examine in Olympic target recurve. We archers, are suppose to be 'family'; but, there are a tiny handful (among trad, target recurve & compound) whom are foster animosity with elitist bull crap. These few loud mouth do rip on other archers for their 'lifestyle choice' of using (or not using) sights, clickers, stabilizers, modern materials, pulleys, etc. We're suppose to learn from one another in order to improve, develop and evolve our archery passion. We need to act as 'family' instead of acting like fiefdom, elitist cliques or tribes. Also, it is understandable that a clicker may not be allow in Trad archery competition; however, that doesn't mean people can't use it as training, to reinforce muscle memory.
Hearing that click on a trad bow is pretty freakin awesome. I'd wager though that this is probably something more akin to a training tool rather than something you'd want to go out hunting with. After doing a couple more shots with it, just how loud do you think that clicking sound is?
Hey Mark - as far as decibels? As far as using for hunting, you could, but I don't think I'm going to be thinking about perfect form when a turkey is walking by and I have 2 seconds to get a shot off. But I am installing a clicker on all my bows I use for practice and recreational shooting, as it eliminates one variable from my thinking - DL. I love this little thing. We will do a review/recap in the summer after a few months of practice with it, but I can say I have already seen results in the 5 days of using it.
Best advice for a clicker is learn to ignore it. Meaning pull thru the shot but concentrate on the back end ( pulling) not on the clicker. Most archers let the clicker control them & that’s the wrong approach for shooting a clicker.
Would the clicker make you more likely to snap shoot since you're releasing as soon as you here that click? I'm trying to teach myself not to snap shoot but would like to be consistent with my draw length. I feel like this would make me release as soon as it went off.
No, just the opposite. If you do have a tendency to snap shoot, and you find yourself jumping the click, you really need to slow everything down. Really examine your shot cycle. The clicker is for one thing and that is to make sure you have a consistent draw length before releasing.
You can use Velcro or moleskin, and that helps a little, but the real noise maker is the part of the chain that attaches to the actual clicker. It would require some serious modification to tie the string directly into the clicker. One option, that would work but make the clicker unusable If the chain ever broke would be to squirt glue into the adapter holding the chain. That would eliminate the noise, but as stated, if the chain ever broke, your adapter is now filled with glue and would probably ruin that clicker.
+S3 Archery received my clicker today and it wasn't hard at all to get the chain off, just cut the chain off, tie a knot at one end of the string and pull the other end through the hole
I for one fully understand the problem of target panic, but the beauty of shooting ''traditional' is trying to master the bow - and indeed yourself - without all the crutches be they sights, release aids, pulleys or clickers. To me this video is advocating building crutches back into traditional shooting.
Toxo - I agree with you 100%, except for using a crutch/aid during practice to improve form and/or eliminate TP. Rather than struggle thru issues, these simple tools can "get you back on track", and then you can shoot without them.
+S3 Archery Hi Joe, we will have to differ on this one. I see a clicker is just one step away from putting sights on and shooting Olympic freestyle recurve again. We each must find our own path I guess. Aside from this I really appreciate your videos.
Some of us really suffer from TP and this is one thing that can improve shot cycle and really get the back into the draw system. Pulling ones own draw length each and every time can only be made more efficient if one knows they are at the same draw each time. I find this almost impossible since the bow arm can change each and every shot. The clicker does this each and every time and trains the muscle memory and subconscious to know when they are at full draw. This is not even close to sights since its objective is totally different.
Joe= thanks for the tip about IRONMIND, poses food for thought,, I am not sure,, for me it seems to flow better if i just let myself let the bow shoot it's self,, not styles of archery are for everone?????
Why you guys still do that ridiculously dumb crouch while shooting is beyond me. Learn proper form with the correct posture & you’ll have better alignment & expansion. Most trad archers have no clue how to execute a proper shot with a Shot Sequence & Back Tension.
Why do archers always have an opinion on the way someone else shoots? If your consistent you can figure out how to hit the mark. Theres plenty of good archers who shoot like this
