For any other TTID owners; the larger amount of oil removed is due to diesel dilution of the oil caused by not completing regeneration of the DPF, or interrupted regeneration. What this does is then dump the diesel into the oil, making your oil less effective at lubricating the engine. This is a widely known killer of the Z19DTR engines in the TTID. Ensure you check your oil often to ensure its not too far over the max line, if it is, this will damage or kill your engine completely. The recommended oil for the TTID is Mobil 1 ESP 0W40, which is a 'low Ash' oil, engineered to minimise Ash and soot and theoretically being kinder to your DPF etc. The DPF is what kills this car really, which is a shame. I've just bought a pump to remove the excess oil, and will be performing oil changes about every 3-6 months from here on out, with close monitoring of the levels
Totally agree, the dpf is the only issue I have ever had, it was a continual battle, I gave up and removed it, mapped it out, it would appear to be the only real cure.
Hello. How do I know when dpf is regenerating. I dont have much experience as i used to drive before only petrol saabs.My 9-3x ttid /'12/ has very strange dipstick,very very hard to read. Is this latest engine dumping diesel into oil sump too? Thanks
Generally speaking your idle will sit higher and you'll be able to smell it also. You will probably also see an amount of smoke coming from the exhaust which can be somewhat alarming. My advice personally would be to have it removed and mapped out, which is what I ended up doing just before I got rid of my TTID. bittersweet moment as I was getting nearly 70mpg on the motorway after the removal 😭
Idle higher * 950rpm when regenerating, compared yo 899-900 ish when not regenerating. Also keep an eye on your 'Distance to Empty' this will rapidly decrease while regenerating amd start to climb again when the regeneration is complete
Thanks for a great video. Managed to change to oil on my 9-3 ttid with little to none mechanical experience thanks to this video. But still got the flickering oil pressure lamp at cold starts...
Yeah, that might be a job that's too advanced for me, I just looked at your video where you changed it. Going to check if there are some good saab mechanics around where I live. Do you know if the short low oil pressure at start might damage the engine?
@@Pompeiusxx83 Hey! I haven't. Got bigger issues at the moment, a hose connecting to the water pump is leaking a bit, got a slight oil leakage from the oil filter housing and the servo oil container is also leaking... Got a friend who is a mechanic to help me out. It still runs good, but I need to fix these issues before they evolve into bigger problems. I don't mind the short flickering of the oil pressure lamp at start as long as I know that it doesn't damage anything. So I will probably leave it for now.
I have a Saab Aero Ttid 2010 with Hirsch performance upgrade that I purchased new and still have it in the family. It has now done 148,000 Km and the low oil pressure warning just flickers when you cold start it. However I do know what the problem is and will share it with you, it is a common fault with elderly Ttid's. Their is a seal just under the oil pump on the pick up side, that over time starts to go hard with age. When the car is left overnight the oil drains back from the pump and when the oil is cold it is of a thicker viscosity. When you start the car the pump pulls a little air in through the defect seal and does not get the oil up quick enough before the ECU oil pressure detection kicks in and shows the warning. To correct this, it is sump off and replace the seal, 4 hour job. However it will make you sweat a bit. However it is not a problem to use as long as the low oil pressure warning only flickers. If it is on considerably longer or it stays on, turn engine off immediately as you could destroy the engine. Hope that helps.
Thanks for The comment, i already knew this as I stated in The video. But you got it more in detail 😉 will leave it like it is for Now. Its only a fast blink on cold start 👍 keep The ttid as long as you can, Hard to find Saabs with few owners.
@@JonasKakarikas Thanks for the comment, yes I am keeping it, have thought about putting it into storage. It is quite a quick car for 1914cc diesel with a Hirsch upgrade. I have a Volvo with a polestar upgrade and it is quicker than that.
Great video, I think the reason for extra oil is due to the oil being diluted with diesel, unburnt fuel used for dpf regen is channelled into the sump. The regen MUST complete its cycle otherwise this is what happens.
Wow it blows my mind sometimes when I see such cramped places for normal related maintance stuff like oil filter, light bulbs, thermostats and so on... Makes little thing maintance a nightmare!!!
Bytte på min idag. Oljefiltret sitter där det sitter, omöjligt att föra ut uppåt så det blir en del spill när man måste ta det neråt. Hällde i 4.3l 0W-40.
Yes, 100% sure. When the dpf is getting clogged up, the ECU requests the injectors to spray a little diesel during the post combustion phase in order to help the dpf itself (and so the battery with its energy) to burn the particulate out in it. This way the diesel runs through the exhaust duct, reaching the dpf; the high temperature does the rest...But it means the diesel runs even into the oil sump...I can tell you how many issues the dpf is causing!! It's a dirty solution to the PM10, the worst when the PM10 are burned they are turned to PM8, 6, 2 ect even more dangerous. The whole phase is called regeneration and it's pretty hard to realize when it's happening, little bit easier when the vehicle is still, idle gear. One can only notice a slightly car shaking. A hint...drive your car over 2000 RPM. The real solution to this issue is unfortunately not legal but hundreds times more healthy.
@@marcots1000 your very correct, I'm fortunate as I have the hirsh exhaust on my saab when it doing a regeneration the exhaust note changes, also another way to tell is you mpg changes on the sid.
Tack för en bra video 👍 Jag går i tankarna att köpa en 9-3- 2003 års modell 2,0T Men har hört så mycket negativt om Saab, så tänkte fråga lite folk som är saab ägare själva om det är en bra bil och om all negativitet som man har hört är ren skitsnack? Vad ska man kolla/lyssna efter speciellt noga när man ska kolla på en Saab?
Saab är inte sämre än något annat bilmärke, kolla servicebok, utvändig rost. Provkör bilen och känn på den. Saab är oerhört mycket bil för pengarna och dom flesta felen som kan uppstå är kända och finns åtgärder till.
My Saab 2008 9-3 is showing low oil pressure, I changed the oil but instead I put 0w-30 but the low pressure hasn’t gone and they is a certain noise coming from the engine, right now I don’t know what else to do
Changing the oil filter on a TTiD is easy. Put the car on axle stands and remove the right front wheel. From that POV you can see the filter and it is accessible for removal. Before unscrewing the filter housing, put a a plastic hose (10mm inner dia.) on the little tube next to the filter and let it rest in an oil pan. With a good filter clamp (or 32mm socket - depends on filter housing) gentily unscrew the filter ( either from the engine bay or wheel arch). After a few turns, oil wil start to flow thru the hose. The oil filter is now starting to drain. Put a clotch under the filter and wait until no more oil is coming out of the hose. Then fully unscrew the filter by hand and remove it via the wheel arch. No messy situation and hardly any oil loss.
Ifall du inte visste så är parkeringsskada (hit and run) något som trafikförsäkringen täcker. Fick själv använda den när någon backat in i bakänden på min.
Same issues with higher oil levels on my 08 TTID. You don't know when the DPF will regenerate on the 08 model. So I use the DPF info app on my smartphone and a OBD2 BT scanner. It tells you the DPF saturation %. At 70% and under the right conditions it will regenerate and you can follow the process on your phone. Easy fix for fuel dumping in the oil.
Yet again another fun packed video.love your sense of humour.the words Retard and high .at last I've found a proper channel for Saab owners/ enthusiast. I see people have already comments on high oil level .yep possible failed regen but could not of failed a lot of times so that's good. And as you said oil pick up seal , known on the ttid and the 2.0 diesel engine shared with the vauxhall/Opel insignia .if yours is manual you can keep gearbox in place and drill 2 holes in gearbox housing to reach last 2 sump bolts Happy saabing.
So the correct oil is 0W-40... And my 08 TTiD has been serviced with 5W-40 all its life. Gonna do it right this time. Also my oil level is showing way too high on dip stick. Must be that extra diesel from failed regen. Gonna have to get that poo poo dpf deleted somehow. Great videos btw! Cheers!
Yes you are right. When the DPF process is working you have more diesel injected un chamber for increase temperature. If you stop your engine during the process the diesel go in the oil.
I can confirm this. I have a ttid Aero. Took it to a specialist and he confirmed that on the ttid, you have to keep an eye on this as they are problematic for diesel contaminating the oil. I change oil & filter every 6000-7000 miles just to be safe. Again, it has to be 0w 40. Saab manual says you can use 5w30 or 0w40. Don't use 5w30 even on high milers. Good video by the way.
I have a question to ask. I have a 2001 Saab se I want to make it my budget build. But my main problem is locating parts for it. Any recommendations of where to look/buy parts from. Thanks
Junkyards, Saab forums, in Sweden we have something called "Blocket" where you could buy alot of used saab stuff. But it's getting less and less for every year that goes by :(
Jonas Kakarikas junkyards have plenty of parts. Mostly stock parts hard to find anything after market. Thanks for the advice I’m going to check that thing called blocket.
I like your videos..and not only because I'm having two 9-3 II gen. Regarding bigger than expected amount of used oil - did you smell that strange petrol-smell in the used oil? maybe diesel is leaking around pistons? if yes it might be that pretty horrible scenario, which of course I hope you will not need to face with.
Changing the oil filter on a TTiD is easy. Put the car on axle stands and remove the right front wheel. From that POV you can see the filter and it is accessible for removal. Before unscrewing the filter housing, put a a plastic hose (10mm inner dia.) on the little tube next to the filter and let it rest in an oil pan. With a good filter clamp (or 32mm socket - depends on filter housing) gentily unscrew the filter ( either from the engine bay or wheel arch). After a few turns, oil wil start to flow thru the hose. The oil filter is now starting to drain. Put a clotch under the filter and wait until no more oil is coming out of the hose. Then fully unscrew the filter by hand and remove it via the wheel arch. No messy situation and hardly any oil loss.
Maybe the extra liquid in the oil was from failed regens dumping diesel in to the engine? I've read this is what causes high oil levels and the pick up seal degrading. I've had a new pick up seal, new oil pump and I still get the oil pressure warning on cold start now and again. Someone on Facebook said he replaced the o rings on the dipstick and that solved it for him. Hopefully you don't have these issues!
Thanks for Your comment! My oillamp is still showing for 1-2 seconds on cold start, so i have ordered The pickup seal. Hope your problem is getting solved 👍 keep saabing
The only oil specified and approved TTID engine is 0w40 and is a must, I have only ever used 0w40 in my TTID, 5w30 Dexxos 2 oil is suitable for almost all other models such as TID, etc.
Also everytime I have carried out an oil change, the car takes near to 5L and I leave it quite some time to get all of the oil out. It's always been over 4.3L, maybe that capacity excludes the oil.in the oil filter? I'm not sure but definitely takes more than 4.3L to bring it to near max on dipstick.
@@mickaelbertail2429 most motor factors try to sell you 5w30 or 5w40 as it's more readily available but Saab's spec for the TTID engine was always only 0w40. It says it in their technical manual and I also confirmed this at the dealership years ago when Saab still had main dealers. I suppose you could use other grades but I wouldn't risk it and I live in the UK near London where it doesn't usually get too cold. I normally use Mobil 1 0w40 as it had the Saab approval.
Every TTID engine has problem with oil pressure, because of the defective gasket of oil strainer. Had the same problem with my engine, change the gasket and problem will be solved part number: 55589549
@@VioleNFaN It was just sugestion to solve the problem, strange is that it didn't help for you. If i ware you I would check the oil pump, if it fails you will have to rebuild your engine for real haha
@@blindguyy7855 Wont check the oil pump. Will not remove the entire timing belt assembly to get rid of the oil pump. Will drive the car until the engine fails, and then buy a new Volvo.
HI JONAS I THINK YOU WILL THE PROBLEM WITH YOUR OIL IS DIESEL IN THE OIL BECAUSE OF THE DPF REGENERATION THIS WILL INCREASE YOUR OIL LEVEL YOU NEED TO GOOGLE THIS IT IS A BIG PROBLEM I HAD MY DPF REMOVED REGARDS DAVE.
Hi, the car has recently had a brand new egr valve fitted, very expensive. So there has been some previous issues. But we will see. Im going to change oil atleast once a year from Now on 👍
HI JONAS MY CAR HAD THE SAME PROBLEM KEEP CHECKING YOUR OIL LEVEL IF IT GOES UP ITS YOU DPF, THESE DIESELS ARE NO GOOD FOR SHORT JOURNEYS THEY DON,T GET HOT ENOUGH FOR DPF TO REGENERATE AND DIESEL IS PUMPED INTO THE ENGINE CHECK OUT SOME SAAB FORUMS, I HAD MY DPF MODIFIED AND CODED OUT REGARDS DAVE.@@JonasKakarikas
The oil is always very dark on these at oil change time. It's quite normal due to regenerations, generally diesel cars oil turns black very quickly but that's fine.
@@imranagha1982 more level of dark oil sorry i use my phone and m'y Bad english ;). The bad regeneration of DPF is the cause of this problem. You have same on Jtd engine. The tech2 reprog don't work for resolve it.
No, diesel oil is always very black. Due to soot. Dexos is just a name, doesn't make the oil better, if you use a new modern oil it will work fine. Just make sure it's 0W-40.
Imran Agha my 2007 9-3 1.9 Tid get oil changes every 18000km with good 5w40 oil and I never get black oil (could do 30000 but never do it !), it’s almost yellow (dark yellow, but never black) maybe because I clean the egr valve and collector regularly. Also the dpf regeneration is vey good. Maybe that’s why the oil last so long...
I also had my filled with 5w30, several times. I called the workshops and they started to be unpleasant. It's not ok at all. Idiots serving cars today, who can't read a fucking volume and what class/visc of oil. How hard can it be... Folks, DIY!
The engine in this car is a Fiat Multijet engine. The same engine is used in many car brands like Opel and Alfa Romeo. The right oil is 5W30 with the C3 specification because of the DPF. The amount is 4.8 liters.
