Ever since I started drumming, there's no other cymbal in the world I'd rather play than a Sabian. And it's because of their very mission statement and the amazing roster of people that work for and with the company. R.I.P. Bob Zildjian. Thank you for making amazing cymbals for people to enjoy.
I love how environmentally conscious and sustainable Sabian is. They conserve water usage and recycle literally everything. AWESOME job! Not to mention they also make incredible cymbals. Just listen to Dave Abbruzzese's drumming with Pearl Jam.
Gotta say: I am impressed by how much of the process at Sabian is actually done by hand. I watched a video by Zildjian and most of their process is automated. Then again, it does back up the family fall out story that caused the founding of Sabian. One brother being the face who retained the original company and the other who was in the factory and founded Sabian. Automated produces a good quality but only hand crafting will produce unique and one of a kind results.
@@rjsal246 No clue. All I can say is automation may produce quantity and repeatability but it does not produce quality and uniqueness. Then again, I just watched a video that said the pro or amateur status of a drummer can be determined solely by their drum set up. Vocalists are using autotune and backing tracks and folks can't seem to play without click tracks. So maybe quality. talent and individuality are no longer relevant.
The HH and HHX and artisan cymbals are among the lines still produced the old way. AA are automated anvil. And all of the cheaper cymbals are mass produced. And individuality and talent still count. Top 40 and the like is made for the masses. To make money. Go see a local band and support local music 👍
they are virtually identical. Both use automatic hammer machines. Sabian just chose to show a hand hammered model being made. That is a very tiny percentage of what they sell.
I'm a truck driver from Halifax, NS, one province over from NB. I have delivered to the Sabian factory numerous times and had the tour there. I have talked to some of the people who hand hammer the high end cymbals. Really nice people, even talked to a guy who made Neil Peart's cymbals.
Been using the AXX brilliant finish for 35 years. Never let me down. Some are over 12 years old and still sound amazing. Sabian is the best cymbals ever produced by far.
@Ian Soberano what a childish view of the world you have. You do realize SABIAN was founded by a Zildjian right? The name isn't 300 years old but the pedigree sure as hell is. Your loyalty to brands is rather naive at best.
I’m a Sabian guy and will be for life. When I first started playing years ago late 80’s early 90’s I played only Zildjian. I ended up playing guitar professionally in a rock band for years. After touring millions of miles, being signed to three record deals. I’ve came back around and am in a position that I can actually go back to practicing the drums again. My drummer always used Sabian and that’s where my love of this company came from. The fact that Bob broke away from Zildjian and started his own successful cymbal company. I love the underdog story and always will!
Sabian's constant innovation in new cymbals and quality control maintains their #1 status...Ive got a 40 year old pair of hats made in their Italian plant...just beautiful...
I've been getting together a full set of Sabian cymbals for my kits. Really old 90's AA series. And scored an old 18" AAX Xplosion crash . They sll sound great !
I sent my Sabian 16" AAX-Plosion crash cymbal (Brilliant) to be changed to a "Natural" finish to this factory in Maine. I can't wait to hear how it sounds in about 6-8 weeks UPDATE: Received my cymbal last month and it sounds amazing. Has a more dry echo hum that's consistent with what I play, plus I can't see my distinct finger prints as much as before. Traditional is the way. Next my 18" cymbal. Thanks, Sabian UPDATE: Had my 18" AAX-Plosion cymbal finished to "Natural" and I like the results!
Sabians are Canadian and this factory is in Meductic New Brunswick but I'm glad you got good results from whatever body shop in Maine refinished them for you.
@@litchar Yeah, they did a pretty good solid finish on both my cymbals and it was very cheap. It still shows the "CANADA" signature stamp on them, which I love knowing that's where they originated from. I think they are a joint team between boarders. Very communicative and trustworthy from my experience.
For real. Plus some of those cymbals go for 5-600 a piece. I paid 900 for a zildjian hi hat crash and ride. It's worth it though. Cheap cymbals sound like just clanking metal.
I've always been all over the place with cymbals, soultone ride, aax crash on the left, paiste 2002 crash on the right, and zildjian quick beat hi hats. Somehow, it works. But I had a 22" aax metal ride for 15 years before it cracked right under the bell. Best, longest lasting cymbal I ever had. I'd love to find another one some day.
Great educational video for us drummers, it's very cool to know this way where your cymbals came from, all my cymbals are Sabian except for my Ride wich is a Zildjian A Custom Ping Ride wich I love but I also want to purchase the HH Raw Bell Dry Ride, it sounds really sweet in the videos. Keep up the good work making the best cymbals out there!! 👍
nelson Rodriguez Love the ping ride! I always asked the drummers I played with to use it whenever they thought they should. Especially along with my guitar solos, so they didn't suck as much.
Yeah, if you spend the dough you can find some fine cymbals excluding no brand names. I've always found Paiste 2002's to be the most sound quality consistent, but i currently have a motley collection of Zildjians and I like them alot.
Video is a superb reminder that no two cymbals are precisely the same, even within the same model, so try several to see which is most pleasing to your ear. 👂
Electric guitars and basses, on the other hand, can pretty much be inexpensively mass-produced to very high quality standards using computer controlled machine tools. This stuff is *work!!*
Im always curious if any of these guys play for recreation at home. Seems like they have a love for it and would like to try what they do at home. Seems like a great job if they do....
i love sabian, have since day one of drumming, but i do agree with you meinl are doing some incredible things, i do rather enjoy the sound of their classic custom line,
Im so curios why there isnt a viewing on how they make Chinas or Gongs, how they make different percussions and so on. Crashes, splashes and rides are shown yes. But the other aint. Why ? . Kevin , drummer from Norway.
I hear ya man! but if you were in the testing vault, it could be a cymbal stand and you could test faster that way! But you'd have to sanitize them before sending them out! A great cymbal sound can be orgasmic. Imagine the caution signs in that section of the plant!
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Dimi Domo Yes...Bob Zildjian is (was, sadly...he has passed away) of the Zildjian cymbal making family and used to be a big part of the company until a disagreement led to a split where he took over the Canadian facility and started Sabian.
I have both zildjian and sabían and sound really great. So muy congrats to these two companies but... still its rare to see bob zildjian promoting a sabían brand... lol. What do u think about it guys?
He founded Sabian. He also used the first two letters of his kids names to make the name Sabian. In the company break up, Sabian got all the original artisans. Thats why Sabian surpassed Zildjian in quality and experience for hand hammered products. Zildjian had to train a new factory of noobs lol.
Actually, Robert got the Canada plant that then produced the Zildjian K Series. The US plant that then produced the Zildjian A Series remained in Zildjian hands...
I don't really care for the logos on cymbals. I much prefer to trust my own ears. It's a bit like buying wine based upon the label on the bottle. You have to taste it to decide whether or not you like it.
Robert Zildjian, son of Avedis Zildjian III, the head of the Avedis Zildjian Company. Family tradition had it that the head of the company would pass the company down to the oldest son (Armand). After Avedis Zildjian III died in 1979, Armand (who was President of Zildjian at the time) became Chairman of the Board. This eventually led to a family feud and a legal dispute between Robert and Armand that resulted in Robert leaving Zildjian to form the rival Sabian company.
It's like comparing Burger King and McDonalds. Both companies have great products, just different versions of them from each other. I personally play Zildjian, but I'll bet you $1,000 if you were listening to a drummer play on a record, and you couldn't see what brand he was playing, you would never know.
Only sabian I've used thus far is a 15 inch hhx studio crash. Sounds good to me. But doesn't cut through in live gigs. I use my zildjian a medium crashes. 16 n 17 inch.
I have a Phil's Choice ride. It's a lot darker than the rides he used with Genesis (I think he wasn't in Genesis when it came out), but don't care, it has his signature on it and is still a quality ride.
Hello im a big fan of sabian.. Cymbals..i got set of drums but ineed a crash ride and a crash..my set didnt come with any..ca you please help me out..on some..
