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Sabine Hossenfelder talks about if the past exists, how the universe began and how it will end, information, math as reality, time, and consciousness. She also discusses her new book, Existential Physics: A Scientist’s Guide to Life’s Biggest Questions.
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Sabine Hossenfelder is an author and theoretical physicist who researches quantum gravity. She is a Research Fellow at the Frankfurt Institute for Advanced Studies where she leads the Analog Systems for Gravity Duals group.
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@wolfgangpetersun2730
@wolfgangpetersun2730 2 года назад
WOW ! Two of my favorite scientific and philosophical channels discussing with each other, thats great. I love how Sabine challenges the sometimes existing mainstream thinking in science and how Robert opened the world up to many philosophical and religious questions for me and introduced me to great people in that field. Thank you both. Dankeschön. A physicist.
@Baba-fy1jc
@Baba-fy1jc 2 года назад
I find this two Channels too very good. She is one from the best here so Far it here so Visble is. I work a long Time with all this Stuff here and with more ,and think she lives not so extrem in a Bubble how so many People here. The Determinisem Plays a Important Role here,more as that die the most People so Vosible is. The Life moves his self more through us ,as many People taht so belive. For me is it extrem Visible how the Life the People so Moves or drive or how Fast the Subconscious here so works. Here is the Awerness a big theme or Topic ,or the Consciousness, but the Role from the Subconscious,that is here for the most People not so Important. The most People Understand that not ,how the Self esteem or the Inferiority complexes in the Mass here so work, or how that the People so moves, or what taht with us so made. My Englisch is not the best, but it is Visible for me, that the Human here not so extrem the Control have ,as the most People that here so belive. The People here lifes with to much Mental Problems and that is more as big Problem. That is good here but, many from the People that we can see here, have self more Psychologic Problems with Psychologic Disorders as many People taht here so belive. The People or the Mass has here more Problems with the Subconscious and with the Inferiority complexes as the Most People taht here belive. The Nature made this Errors from us, in the Next Time more Visible for us. The Human brings a Chaos in or on this World and that comes Back als this Chaos knows no mercy. The Human works Visible very bad with the Logik on Spezial Places or very Important Places ,and that makes here the Mass ,more as good Visible. I belive the Mass must more talk About so Themes waht the Nature through us so made or the Life. The Problems here with the Mony or the Greed or the Nature or the different to the Poor and to the Rich,that all made here ,a bigger and a depper Problem Visible. That made can made a Line to the other Problems Visible. Then the Self esteem and the Inferiority complexes is a mover from the Problems with the Mony. The Human likes the Materialism to give his self a better Feeling or the Kapitalism or the Brand Fetischism. The live give bis self through the Human Mass his own Dopamin und Seratonin kicks,that it so loves or so Need. I belive the Mass work not so much with his Consciousness how so many People that so belive. I belive for her is here more Visible from the Determinisem as for many other People here.
@chrisgriffiths2533
@chrisgriffiths2533 2 года назад
Wolfgang Petersun, Have You Visited Wolfgang Peak in Central Queensland Australia ?. Apparently this Peak is the Core of an Extinct Volcano.
@rodrigolabarre
@rodrigolabarre 2 года назад
I was going to say the same! I need Sean Carroll to have the whole crew.
@scoreprinceton
@scoreprinceton 2 года назад
The anatomical brain and its resources might limit what might be explored scientifically, philosophically, linguistically and hence the need for AI like technologies. Even with those, we might create consciousness and yet be without a clue about the purpose or meaning for anything and everything. In the end, after all is said and done multiverse might just be without any explanations, reasons, cause or causeless.
@spiralsun1
@spiralsun1 2 года назад
Wow is right. 11 seconds in, Sabine nails it 💅🏻 ❤️‍🔥👍🏻
@ReynaSingh
@ReynaSingh 2 года назад
Great to see Sabine on here!
@christopherstanford5599
@christopherstanford5599 2 года назад
🤗
@maekong2010
@maekong2010 Год назад
Closer to Truth rocks and Sabine is a rock star for soundly coming back to what enables predictions. As usual I understood nothing yet somehow still got to walk away feeling smarter and, in fleeting moments, vindicated. It is rare nowadays to get through an entire interview and not feel that a refund of time spent was in order. Thanks for the respect.
@Boudica234
@Boudica234 2 года назад
What a discussion! The thing I love about Robert is he really listens to his guests and admits when he doesn't understand a particular argument. The high quality and relevance of his questions demonstrate how open minded and incisive the man truly is. I love Robert and Sabine and could listen to them for days
@rckflmg94
@rckflmg94 2 года назад
@@ROForeverMan Trollboy
@rckflmg94
@rckflmg94 2 года назад
@@ROForeverMan you've demonstrated a sad yet hilarious example of projection. Good luck in your search.
@ericstorey1864
@ericstorey1864 Год назад
As an outsider I love physics and especially the history of physics, it’s all about the progress of thought with me, so these discussion’s are brilliant to listen to and what I like about Sabine is that she dares ask major questions, she is by her own admission a contrarian and questions the direction of the physics community is taking. I have two of her books, Lost in Math and Existential Physics and they are both a joy for me simply because of her ability to explain difficult concepts with utter simplicity.
@Thomas-gk42
@Thomas-gk42 Год назад
entirly right, her books belong the best, I read in public science communication
@biedl86
@biedl86 2 года назад
This was a very interesting chat. When Sabinə (don't ditch the schwa sound, if you want to pronounce her like she'd be pronounced in Germany) first uploaded her freewill video, I didn't believe her assessment. It caught me off guard how she spoke about it, in this seemingly dismissive tone. But really, it wasn't dismissive. Since, I've seen many talks and debates about freewill, looked into the topic deeper and I even went back to her video and deleted my comment, where I was originally accusing her of arrogance. How would she know, was what I asked, that she should stick to physics instead of diverging to armchair philosophy. I took it personally allegedly not having freewill. Today, I do believe it's a mode of thinking you have to develop, to assess the things the way she does. It's not really assessing, it's rather postponing the assessment if you lack sufficient knowledge. And really, if you get used to it, it's like that thing you can't make unseen anymore. Since I'm very familiar with this mode of thinking when it comes to God, it wasn't all too hard to stick to the data and re-evaluate my stance on freewill. The difference is, the data suggests, that there is no freewill, while it suggest that we can't know anything about God, because there is no data to be gathered. So, ye, it's the same mode. Stick to the data. Don't be afraid to say, that you don't know. Don't let your emotions influence the data. Don't add unnecessary assumptions. Then you should come closer to truth.
@Mutual_Information
@Mutual_Information 2 года назад
I appreciate how Sabine consistently advocates for Occam’s Razor. As she says, she’s skeptical of any theory of the early universe that introduces complexity that isn’t necessary to explain observations. It’s a principle that holds true almost everywhere, but is often abandoned because it can deal devastating blows to otherwise respected theories. (I think everyone knows what theory I’m thinking of)
@TurinTuramber
@TurinTuramber 2 года назад
Exactly, let the data write the conclusions. Too many people try to write whatever story best fits their preconceived (theological) conclusion.
@kuroryudairyu4567
@kuroryudairyu4567 2 года назад
@@TurinTuramber I'm not atheist, just strongly agnostic, but i fully agree with you Geralt, btw i subscribed to your channel many many months ago
@abelincoln8885
@abelincoln8885 2 года назад
Because you have no proof of what happened 13.7 billion years ago that you are using to explain natural phenomena today. She says she starts with with what we know ... but we have known for over 120 years that the Universe, Galaxy, Sun, Earth Atmosphere, life and machines are thermodynamic Systems and with increasing entropy. We have known the Universe is an ISOLATED thermodynamic system with finite matter & energy & increasing entropy. All thermodynamic systems ... are Functions ... and originate from the surrounding System(s) which must provide the matter & energy and time, space & Laws of physics to exist & to Function. Man has known for thousands of years what a "function" is and who makes them. A Function is simply ... a system that PROCESSES inputs into outputs and has clear PURPOSE & FORM which is information that every Function possesses to exist & to function. How long have we known the three types of physical machines are mechanical, electrical & molecular ( LIFE ) and that nature can never make or operate the simplest machine(Function) made by Man ( intelligence)? The simplest mechanical machines ... include the stone wheel, axe head, lever, wedge, nail, screw, spring, spoon, fork, cup, plate ... which are single homogeneous objects ... with clear purpose, form & design to exist and to function. Quantum particles are the simplest single homogeneous objects with clear purpose, form & design and properties. Protons, neutrons & electrons are functions composed of Elemental particles(functions). The Elements are functions composed of Functions. Molecules are Functions composed of Functions. Everything in the Universe is a Function and every complex function ... is composed of simpler Functions. Again. How long has Sabine and all the rest of you known that the Universe is an Isolation Thermodynamic FUNCTION ... and that Nature can never make & operate the simplest PHYSICAL FUNCTION made by an intelligence ... like Man? You are cherry picking what you know to explain natural phenomena and supposedly "confirm" your materialist beliefs Universal Functions is the Hypothesis for Sir Issac Newton's Watchmaker Analogy over 300 years ago. The Machine Analogy is just an OBSERVATION. Newton was saying everything is a Function ... that can only be made by an intelligence. And Universal Functions can be easily tested and confirmed ... by simply fully defining the Function & Intelligence Categories using information from known natural & unnatural phenomena which a subcategory types. You use the Function Category to identify anything that is a Function ... and you immediately will know the origin of that Function. Only an intelligence makes Functions which possess information. Only an intelligence extracts information from a Function. The Laws of nature and all scientific knowledge .. is information .... extracted from various types of functions ... by an intelligence called Man. Sabine claims that "we don't know" what happened with the early Universe is BS because she does know what a thermodynamic system is, and only an intelligence makes Functions. She KNOWS the Universe was created by God over 4 days less than 6000 years ago but by some "unknown" UNNATURAL process 13.7 billions years ago. Again. An elemental particle is the simplest Function. There is zero evidence that nature can make & operate the simplest Function.
@mikel5582
@mikel5582 2 года назад
@@adriancioroianu1704 At the fundamental level I don't disagree with your argument. So how do you propose we proceed as a civilization? Do we throw in the towel and concede that nothing is knowable and therefore every explanation/viewpoint is as credible as the next? Before scientific inquiry, and before theism, human success and progress was probably dominated by some very different mode of thinking that is now relegated to the trash heap of human evolution. Who knows, rationalism may eventually give way to something better but, for now, it seems to me to be the best approach for human ecological fitness.
@kierenmoore3236
@kierenmoore3236 2 года назад
By ‘theory’, are you referring to all the many god(dess) hypotheses (even this term seems generous) … ? ☺️
@cgmp5764
@cgmp5764 Год назад
A great communicator with a very logical analytical mind (and sense of humour in her videos).
@owencampbell4947
@owencampbell4947 2 года назад
Sabine's conscious mind and her honesty are way advanced. Thankyou RLK for the interview and hopefully we'll be seeing more with interesting topics and Sabine's opinion.
@infcreate
@infcreate 2 года назад
Such a good interviewer. Some of the experience I have listening to Sabine is getting ruined by terrible questions or people around her who don't seem to understand what's going on. Robert is following her thoughts very attentively, and always seems to articulate his questions in a profound and elaborate way, very close to the manner in which Sabine is used to answer. All I'm saying is, I think the interviewer is worth the interviewed here, and I think that doesn't happen often
@danielm5161
@danielm5161 Год назад
Yeah he is one of the best
@PurnamadaPurnamidam
@PurnamadaPurnamidam 2 года назад
Sabine is here also now thats a GREAT news. She explain things very well. I like here talks very much. Thanks Lawrence keep the good work as ALWAYS Sir.
@PurnamadaPurnamidam
@PurnamadaPurnamidam 2 года назад
@@ROForeverMan Indeed 😉
@johnmanetas1504
@johnmanetas1504 2 года назад
Thank you Robert and Sabine, for this beautiful presentation of philosophical and scientific ideas. I'm sure I will dream tonight the big Nothing full of small everythings.
@pandemicentitlements5198
@pandemicentitlements5198 2 года назад
Robert Lawrence Kuhn, the David Letterman of the world of physics and philosophy. Sabine, you know you've made it, when you're on with Mr. Kuhn.
@Scroticus_Maximus
@Scroticus_Maximus 2 года назад
I would say the counter is true. You know you've made it when Sabine is willing to talk to you.
@NeverTakeNoShortcuts
@NeverTakeNoShortcuts 2 года назад
Mr. Kuhn, you finally made it. You have Sabine on!!!
@rckflmg94
@rckflmg94 2 года назад
@@NeverTakeNoShortcuts Kuhn is much better known and established as a RU-vid personality than Sabine.
@fluffysheap
@fluffysheap 2 года назад
@@rckflmg94 I'm not sure. He's been around longer but they have about the same number of subscribers. But Hossenfelder posts new content every week, while most of the content here is recycled.
@E-Kat
@E-Kat 2 года назад
You'll only know you've made it when you see God!
@Thomas-gk42
@Thomas-gk42 Год назад
Every interview with Sabine is a garanty for an intelligent, pointed, couraged and refreshing talk. This here is, wow, one of the best. Many thanks
@user-gk9lg5sp4y
@user-gk9lg5sp4y 2 года назад
Love Sabine's channel!
@mrbamfo5000
@mrbamfo5000 2 года назад
@@ROForeverMan How do you know J5 is a male? Could be fangirl.
@Northwind82
@Northwind82 2 года назад
This is one of his best interviews. I also love his interviews with David Chalmers which is funny because because he said to Sabine that he believes in weak and strong emergence. I am pretty sure David Chalmers introduces Robert to the idea in another interview.
@bradstephan7886
@bradstephan7886 2 года назад
If time is an illusion, which it must be, as is all creation (everything we experience is only experienced in the mind, which is the very definition of 'imaginary'), then everything happens all at once, meaning past, present and future are always right 'here', right 'now'. A very enjoyable, thought-provoking discussion, thanks to Robert's excellent knowledge base and interviewing skills and, of course, Sabine's incisive, inquisitive mind.
@JAYMOAP
@JAYMOAP Год назад
Sabine very good to try to keep it deterministic. Also most things she said very much on point. Including the universal computational potential, strings, holographic superconductor, and emergence of different level of computation ylup to coherent living matter states. Nice conversation 👌
@Robinson8491
@Robinson8491 2 года назад
Thank you for tackling time and eternalism and presentism in the first chapter, now I'll definitely finish the entire video and buy her book
@Scroticus_Maximus
@Scroticus_Maximus 2 года назад
Everybody loves Sabine!
@fistandantilusdarkone2684
@fistandantilusdarkone2684 2 года назад
Wow! My two favorite! Thank you both look forward to reading your book!
@ithaca3929
@ithaca3929 2 года назад
Fantastic dialogue. Two great people !
@jeffamos9854
@jeffamos9854 2 года назад
@@ROForeverMan sorry your woowoo is irreievant. maybe a girlfriend will help
@Cameramancan
@Cameramancan Год назад
Love to listen to her…she is wonderfully intelligent and articulate. She’s down to earth and has no truck with magic fairy dust or pseudoscientific bonkerism!🇨🇦
@firstal3799
@firstal3799 10 месяцев назад
Down to earth ?
@joehelsley8321
@joehelsley8321 2 года назад
You're 2 of my favorite online people but most of the discussion is predictable simply because Sabine is an absolute physicalist. I nevertheless love her discussion of physics. I've read 1 of her other books but will buy this one as well. Thank you both for your contributions!
@fluffysheap
@fluffysheap 2 года назад
Well, according to physicalist theory, it should have been entirely predictable! 🤣
@spiralsun1
@spiralsun1 2 года назад
Thank you for this ❤️‍🔥. That intro is the best thing I have heard all year and it actually made me cry tears of joy. I love both you guys so much. 🥰🤩 The questions asked and what Sabine said I am in love. ❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥 I never enter any conversation on free will. It is a mark of deep confusion and an eruption of the intersection of what we call “ego” or the need for control with a dangerous ignorance about ourselves and the universe. Simply asking the question is the answer. In the past they asked the wrong questions too. Like: “what quantity of phlogiston would incinerate the universe when ignited”. Phlogiston is a placeholder for ignorance. When you don’t understand that happens. Note that the universe doesn’t have “free will” except within the parameters which keep it existing. You have to understand why that is necessary.
@fluffysheap
@fluffysheap 2 года назад
Quality interview. Dr. Hossenfelder is pretty far from the usual guests on this channel. What I find interesting is that her materialist viewpoint is pretty extreme even for a physicist, but she's not hostile to other views, she just doesn't find them useful. And she's so consistent that there's not a lot of cracks to dig into. Probably a weird interview for Kuhn, too. "So, that's exactly what you believe? No exceptions or hedging?" "Right" "Well, OK then." My only regret is that they discussed Einstein and she didn't say "that guy again" 😉
@Youtube_Stole_My_Handle_Too
@Youtube_Stole_My_Handle_Too 2 года назад
He's far too weak to interview Hossenfelder - both professionally and verbally. Even when she placed herself wide open for attacks he wasn't able to go for the kill. Hossenfelder's weakness is her reluctance to accept anything outside what she thinks is the core of what we know from experience. This is not the tough mentality we need to discover new experiments we can do to know more. I can't blame him though, even Krauss turns into a softball when meeting her so I guess there must be something about her that makes you want to go agreeable. I was impressed by Kastrup when he basically dressed her naked.
@PrivateSi
@PrivateSi 2 года назад
The problem with the Standard Model and fundy physics is it has ignored or dismissed a century ago far too many alternatives at all levels of QM and elevating TOO MANY MATERIALS to the status of fundamentally very important particles, many of which are still hypothetical / theoretical or poorly evidenced by often uncorroborated, very noisy, highly filtered experiments designed to confirm their theories, ripe for the picking of cherries. -- 2 good examples are hydrogen / proton energy levels... Explanations morphed into whole number wavy orbits with no fractions of waves allowed.. Not a bad idea, but Einstein and Planck combined forms a both pixelate and stretchy matter-energy EM field. -- A field of +ve cells close-packed by free-flowing -ve gas is all that is needed to emerge all the forces and a corrected particle model. 1 force, 2 base particle types, 1 with quantised charge.. +ve cell (gap) size decreases with -ve gas concentration up to a limit (see Planck and Schwarzchild). -- This allows hydrogen / proton energy levels to be modelled as a mostly stationary charge density gradient, a continuously flowing one with straightening inflows and spiralling outflows that mostly collide laterally, cancelling out their sideways force leaving only the inward flow force.. Some magnetic field loops form like a ring magnet with torus shaped field squashed into a sphere. -- Electrons obviously prefer to sit in a shell of +ve cells.. The shells get further apart the close to the atom . But what are Electrons and Positrons.. In this model it's field cell (+ve quanta, +1) with 'total escape energy' forming a positron with the excess charge left behind forming an electron.. They are entangled so play tug-of-war on the -ve gas which vibrates the field back and forth in a flux tube that can get very thin and long. KEEPS THEM IN SYNCH. -- Free electrons and positrons try to shoot their excess charge and suck in charge from the far more balanced field that is having none of it, so repels its load back from all directions.. The fastest way using the least energy to get rid of a field imbalance is in the direction of its motion. It's an INERTIAL FIELD - preserves momentum.. This spherical free electric field disrupts the quantum gravity field stretch so a free electron / positron is 99% electric energy, 1% (more like 0.5%) STRONG MASS ENERGY... -- Positrons and Electrons ALWAYS COME IN PAIRS, this is a well proven universal law, like DOING AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE WITH AS LITTLE AS POSSIBLE... Where are all the positrons and where do protons,provably composite particles, get their +ve charge from? There is one ignored solution to the ANTIMATTER PARADOX that does not properly break symmetry or invent very problematic anti-universes and anti-glaxies, and DOES NOT WASTE THE POSITRON - the only other known truly elementary particle.. -- Under certainly conditions (ie. the Big Bang) STRONG FUSION took/TAKES place where new protons are formed by 2 positrons colliding with an electron at opposite angles, or squeezed and held there long enough, with a spare electron left over... This happens more often than 2 electrons hit a positron to form an anti-proton so the net result is a HYDROGEN PLASMA SOUP. -- Beta- radiaiton is a Neutron losing its nucelar bound, not strong-mass-force bound neutralising electron that sits in a proton's +ve energy band or on its MAX-PACKED MASSIVE CORE, rolling round, with its vibes neutralising the proton's vibes.. Those vibes are part of the STRONG REPULSION FORCE too (as well as the core being max-packed).. It's the underlying electrostatic force of the field that bonds electrons and positrons via flux tubes that get thinner and thinner the further away from their connected partner(s) they get.. -- Most of a particle's energy is stored in the centre and will revert back there if the surrounding field warp is causes is diffracted.. No energy is lost by the field or the particle, and its warp field reforms.. This may be the case for photons to a certain extent, and definitely at a base level where photons are the size a single few cells.. -- A PHOTONIC BLIP is quantised.. Blips are like 'elementary photons' or 'photon elements', with photons build from them, effectively.. Energy is stored in the wave peak either way, an it's this that warps the surrounding field.. Photons do spread their energy when diffracted and these chaotic and calm interference bands act as wave guides for photon peaks..A kind of pilot wave theory. -- blah..blah... Everything can be explained and sensibly simplified into a semi-classsic + quantum, quantised space where MATTER TRAPS a finite supply of -ve ELECTRO GAS (like an 'electron gas') away from voids to particles, forming CHARGE DENSITY GRADIENTS = Gravity, with VOIDS EXPANDED and space around matter COMPACTED as the perfectly balanced, tiny, empty crystal turned more and more 'Matter-Energy EM FIELD into MATTER = permanent charge imbalance.. It was a chain reaction of matter creation from an initial parallel e_p pair creation. The universe expanded rapidly but WAS ALREADY IN EXISTENCE.
@notanemoprog
@notanemoprog 2 года назад
@@RU-vid_Stole_My_Handle_Too LOL Kastrup
@Youtube_Stole_My_Handle_Too
@Youtube_Stole_My_Handle_Too 2 года назад
@@notanemoprog Yes, Bernando Kastrup ripped her appart.
@steveflorida8699
@steveflorida8699 Год назад
@@PrivateSi at the end of your discourse on matter & energy, you did not disclose the origin of Life. And if Life (living organisms) is not inherent in mechanistic atoms and lifeless molecules, then Abiogenesis is a lifeless hypothesis.
@Life_42
@Life_42 2 года назад
Two of the best humans that ever exist in one conversation!!!
@timothylamont845
@timothylamont845 2 года назад
Epic video! Love Prof Hossenfelder! I subscribe to both yours and her channels. Thank you and keep it up.
@89gregpalmer
@89gregpalmer 2 года назад
Sabine’s take on entropy is beautiful.
@andrew3xuk346
@andrew3xuk346 2 года назад
Sabine, I have studied much of your work (you tube) & enjoyed the interview.
@slsteinman292
@slsteinman292 2 года назад
Excellent. Thank you, both.
@johnrowson2253
@johnrowson2253 2 года назад
I love to watch Sabina talk, and Robert has a wonderful voice !
@marcco44
@marcco44 2 года назад
fantastic times we are living in! love your channel!!😊
@LarryFasnacht
@LarryFasnacht 2 года назад
AWESOME! I've watched nearly every video you've produced. I've also been watching Dr. Hossenfelder for a couple of years now. I'm super happy to see you interview her. Good job!
@tomingrassiaimages8776
@tomingrassiaimages8776 2 года назад
She is fantastic.
@mrsgingernoisette
@mrsgingernoisette 2 года назад
Sabine is a literal queen..
@LucharPS
@LucharPS 2 года назад
A bonus - two of my favorite Ytubers together
@martymerkler5472
@martymerkler5472 Год назад
Great conversation.
@floriath
@floriath 2 года назад
Two of my favorite people at the same time.
@loushark6722
@loushark6722 2 года назад
Enjoyed this a lot
@bryandraughn9830
@bryandraughn9830 2 года назад
Great interview! I wonder if the difference between "why" and "how" is just too obvious to me, and is there really such a grey area between the two that I'm missing? The existence of the universe for example. How it came to be seems like a completely different question than why. I can imagine that it came into existence through some type of mechanism without any "why" reasons, and even if there was a "why", I can't imagine what that might be. If there's always been the possibility of a universe, that possibility exists. Then, the universe itself isn't that much of a leap. It simply exists because the concept of existence is possible. The same way that the possibility itself has existed since..... whenever. "Non-existence" still doesn't exist. Just as it should. In that sense, there is "something" AND "nothing". When we observe everything, that's what nothing isn't. The part of the question that I find problematic is the "rather than" part. "Nothing" is still nothing. It isn't there! That's what it is. There was never a state of pure, eternal nothingness as long as the possibility of something existed, which it obviously did. If the real question is "Why did possibility space exist rather than nothing?" well, again, it existed, and what didn't exist, did not. Apparently, the only thing that ever had to exist was the potential for at least a universe, and if it hadn't then nothing would. Ever. "Why is there something rather than nothing?" Because that's all there has ever been. There was no point at which this was an optional, selective situation. A situation of that type needs a place to exist, making it oxymoronic. True, ultimate, perfect nothingness cannot exist. That's it's definition. Trying to leverage a "why" into that doesn't even make sense to me. Thanks for the work you do! I watch every episode! Peace friend.
@martinchitembo1883
@martinchitembo1883 2 года назад
But then again why is there something rather than nothing? If the universe had a beginning then it must have a creator or a mechanicnism that is beyond our grasp that brought it into existence. What where did the information to create a universe or evolve one came from and the laws of physics too?
@joegranata7936
@joegranata7936 2 года назад
Thank you Robert once more for your tireless research. This is like a celebrity death match! (I'm obviously kidding). Dr. Hossenfelder is indeed a point of reference. One can likes or not, agrees or not, but her opinions and positions are so neat and clear and understandable to everyone (included not-cultured people like I am) that you can't but improve your knowledge of reality by listening with attention.
@garybala000
@garybala000 2 года назад
Many thanks for an insightful and thoughtful interview. The interview questions, and their underlying knowledge, were as educational as the answers. Now what’s my views on Sabine’s answers? Folks, I know that I’m in the minority here. But I’m less of a fan of Skeptic Sabine and her answers than many. I listen because of her reputation and the popularity of her channel. Her views are useful for reminding us, sometimes painfully and in a no-BS way, that we need to stay tethered closely to established science. I think she is better at hammering at what we don’t know and can’t be sure of (the hard cold ugly truth, if you will) than what we can reasonably speculate about. She keeps saying stuff like: “Well, you can believe it if you want but it’s not science.” Huh? Well, there are certainly limits to everything, including established science. But human advancement depends on, at times, daring reasonably to push the envelope - striking forth a little into partially uncharted seas. Heck, otherwise the Wright Brothers would’ve never taken flight. Ponder that. Thanks again for the video.
@missusbarkdog
@missusbarkdog 2 года назад
Indeed...reminds me of the Greek philosophers ignoring the existence of ZERO. Back to square one we are. Thanks for your honesty in this charming pool of agreeable 'scientists and philosophers'. Peace.
@johneonas6628
@johneonas6628 2 года назад
Thank you for the video.
@michaeljmcguffin
@michaeljmcguffin 2 года назад
A few moments of interest: 20:34 Context for her statement in the teaser: "whereas I think what's missing in our theories are the big connections that hold the entire universe together [...] the big mysteries that we have left to solve [...] concern how we are embedded in this entire universe" 28:00 David Deutsch and the existence of universal computers 34:03 consciousness 40:56 free will
@franciskingtalksonspiritua1278
@franciskingtalksonspiritua1278 2 года назад
I think you would enjoy interviewing Rupert Spira and Bernardo Kastrup.
@Thedeepseanomad
@Thedeepseanomad 2 года назад
Indeed. The point (or att least one of the points) is the universe transforming itself through life. To what, will be up to what life wants it to be through what it learns, wants and what transformations are possible.
@oldrusty6527
@oldrusty6527 2 года назад
Will is *free enough.* It is as free as you would ever want it to be. You never experience an inability to will something. You never say, "dang, I wish I could will that." And we have a deterministic physical system to thank for that.
@Maaaaaavah
@Maaaaaavah 2 года назад
You should have Bernardo Kastrup on and also see how Sabine treated him in a debate on TOE!
@woufff_
@woufff_ Год назад
Great, thank you for this Robert and Sabine 💖
@stuartjohnson6143
@stuartjohnson6143 2 года назад
Excellent, a proper intellectual discussion all the way through.
@darwinlaluna3677
@darwinlaluna3677 5 месяцев назад
I just always feel all in nature, its all here , all we need is focus in trying to found it , listen to nature
@sacr3
@sacr3 2 года назад
Excellent video, interesting discussion. The one thing I always look out for in an individual that takes the scientific route of life is an openness of mind. The very fact that we exist in the first place, that there's a universe, that there are three dimensions as well as time, how these brain patterns in our head can somehow output an experience in which can see colors and smell cookies, aspects of reality that do not exist whatsoever outside of conscious minds. It's absolutely incredible and it makes absolutely no sense why it's here in the first place. So when one discusses such a topic, you have to keep a sense of open-mindedness because there are more things that you aren't aware of not knowing, then there are things you know you don't know. So when I see scientists kind of cross their arms and say there is nothing but what we know today that creates this anomaly, I kind of just skip over that individual because 2,000 years ago all we knew were gods and religious explanations. If an individual in those days cross their arm and said everything you see is explainable by today's religion, well... Things change and they change rapidly, I for one most certainly believe there is more to this consciousness. It exists in this universe therefore it is part of this universe, therefore we can say that the universe has consciousness, for all we know it can be an intrinsic property that exists throughout all of SpaceTime. It acts sort of like water in an aquarium, and you with your complex but very unique brain pattern is like a sponge submerged in this water. Your brain and body is a machine in which converts information into organized, repeatable energy patterns driven by chemical means. These three-dimensional highly complex patterns of energy can be interpreted by consciousness as an experience, for example your retina receives around 450 nanometer wavelength light, these photons trigger proteins in which create chain reactions that depolarize cells, this information travels through a couple of places but ultimately to the back of your brain where it exploded into a beautiful three-dimensional pattern of polarization and depolarization as well as many neurochemical reactions, and then that's it. But this is where consciousness can in a sense read the information, these random photons being shot out were nothing but once collected and transformed into a three-dimensional pattern of energy, cautiousness can interpret this as red. You and I and your dog and the beetle under your bed are all conscious and we all share the same consciousness, but we experience the universe from very unique perspectives and we gather information as we go through our experience. All of this information we gather, AKA our memory, is all our consciousness knows as that is all it can interpret from our brain. So we feel that we are an individual as we gather our experience. Basically your body and all other life forms are physical machines in which allows the conscious part of the universe to experience itself from quintillions upon quintillions of perspectives, experiencing itself through millions of different senses like echolocation, powerful color vision, extremely powerful smelling capabilities, sensing the world through these different perspectives... What better way to learn about yourself? I find that the whole purpose to life is to simply gather an experience, learn as much as you can about yourself through your body. Of course this is incorrect, it's not like I died and my brain completely rotted away and then I somehow popped back into existence knowing what just happened, just a fun hypothetical
@sudarshanbadoni6643
@sudarshanbadoni6643 2 года назад
Soothing and satisfying write up with intense selfless intensity and thank you for that. The pertinent unanswered question is not about matter energy time space TAPESTRY or about artificial intelligence or about science and technology but about something called matter plus plus well defined and something undefined or beyond matter like consciousness kind of things and about cognitive paradoxes around us. Thanks again.
@junkjunk2493
@junkjunk2493 2 года назад
yay , sabine the queen
@AmitRay47
@AmitRay47 Год назад
Very contesting. I like your mind, Sabine. I am sure you will come out with a new verificable theory, idea or concept beyond that of Einstein.
@shironantony
@shironantony Год назад
Robert: I'd like to check back with you every decade or so. Sabine: (bewildered) "spooky action at a distance"
@boydhooper4080
@boydhooper4080 2 года назад
Great interview and discussion
@marcopony1897
@marcopony1897 2 года назад
I mean you could eventually get to a theory of inner experience by the search for physical correlations in the brain. But the question is: if you arrived at a physical theory and you can calculate inner experience, would you have understood why physical patterns in the brain are accompanied by or identical to inner experience? Would you have understood, why there is experience at all? I think that's the fundamental question. Not *how* is inner experience, but *why* is inner experience.
@uninspired3583
@uninspired3583 2 года назад
Mark Solms suggests inner experience is a measure of homeostasis. if we don't feel pain then we don't avoid harm, and this ends up reducing our survivability fitness. so the answer to why we feel pain is that its a measure of harm, that drives avoidance behaviour. the next step is to look at our other internal experiences, and see if a pattern holds up.
@uninspired3583
@uninspired3583 2 года назад
@Sky Gardener what's different about the mechanical avoidance signal vs the pain signal of experience?
@uninspired3583
@uninspired3583 Год назад
@Bryana Leigh interesting. I feel the other way, I find it freaky, to use your phrase, to think there is something about us that could not be described by math. That would imply that core being of what we are is some chaotic thing that cannot be bound by rules or laws. To me it just doesn't follow that order in mind could come from something fundamentally chaotic.
@uninspired3583
@uninspired3583 Год назад
@Bryana Leigh i don't think of consciousness as a thing, I think of it as a process. It's easy enough to look at a process like walking, and see it carried out by different kinds and numbers of legs. When we look closely at the brain, we can see that there are some processes that seem to be correlated to something in awareness, and other processes that are not. Those conscious and sub conscious processes are both carried out by the same kind of cell, a connected network of neurons. There's nothing about the cells that do visual processing that are different than the cells that control the speed of our heart beat. The difference is the patterns, and what they're connected to. So the process is context dependant. I don't see why a different material couldn't carry out the process. It just has to be set up correctly to do so (easier said than done)
@siulapwa
@siulapwa Год назад
I love Sabine
@stephenlawrence4821
@stephenlawrence4821 2 года назад
Good discussion. On free will, which is the main thing I'm interested in I think we do know what it is. It begins with a concept of what having options is. The idea is we can select anyone of them in the actual circumstances with exactly the same past. But that's not what options appear to be like at all. What it seems like is we have options we can select if... So having options is compatible with determinism. Not so free will and there is no reason from theory or experience to think we have free will.
@jareknowak8712
@jareknowak8712 2 года назад
Hi Sabine!! Welcome to the channel!!
@carlosenriquegonzalez-isla6523
Sabina es la neta del planeta!
@mrafard
@mrafard 2 года назад
eternal life is the life that children live, children live in the present and dont worry about Death
@emanuelstanley2523
@emanuelstanley2523 Год назад
The universe is definately not pointless! For us humans it's the place and the opportunity to grow, and to grow means to understand more and more that love is the first law of this universe.
@rhqstudio4107
@rhqstudio4107 Год назад
Sabine is my AMAZON🎉
@francesco5581
@francesco5581 2 года назад
I remember her in difficulty arguing with Kastrup ... Maybe it's time to have him on this channel ?
@MeissnerEffect
@MeissnerEffect Год назад
That was fantastic and much appreciated 😊
@herbertdarick7693
@herbertdarick7693 2 года назад
Great conversation 👍
@steveclark8538
@steveclark8538 2 года назад
Excellent fun TY
@e-t-y237
@e-t-y237 9 дней назад
Consciousness was in evidence long before brains. An amoeba sensing its own need for food and sensing foods existence in the environment, is demonstrating consciousness. Feeling and sensing is a function of consciousness. The more complex forms of consciousness that have evolved are mere elaborations on this fundamental form. Every interaction with the environment is rudimentary consciousness, which again, evolved in more complicated forms into brains, self-consciousness, meta-consciousness, abstraction, etc..
@shaikhraisuddin4878
@shaikhraisuddin4878 2 года назад
Consciousness is a name given to management of changes by a physical being. Source of knowing comes from memory known as hysteresis. Source of sentience comes from elastic property of matter of a subject. Qualia are elastic wave patterns
@sunnyyadav1521
@sunnyyadav1521 2 года назад
Great when Sabine says, - when we look at vast universe we see it’s pointless but it’s upon us to create point of universe for our life - application of 2nd law of thermodynamics is subjective and what do we mean by entropy may not have any fundamental meaning - there’s more to consciousness than integrated information theory and just a number is too simple - I would add here that consciousnesses is independent of substance , in human brain or in other life like animals, insects, etc - it’s the same idea of identity being in existence that is independent of material/substance/matter which could depend on chemical reactions - I disagree that consciousness is just about network connectivity of neurons, but instead I see that consciousness is the identity that uses network connectivity of neurons, that identity is same when we have more or leas neurons, like in elephant compared to ant - philosophy is an important discipline and it will continue to be important
@williambunting803
@williambunting803 2 года назад
Regarding transmission of consciousness, I don’t believe that a consciousness can be transferred externally. What will be possible is for a consciousness to connect with another consciousness potential environment, and progressively occupy that space, transfer an amount of memory, recognizing that memory takes time, and then the two conscious spaces separate to effectively create a partial clone of the original consciousness.
@marishkagrayson
@marishkagrayson 2 года назад
Sabine Hossenfelder has broken the fourth wall for me. Her genius is evident and pragmatic. Even after all the physics lectures, I never intuitively grasped what the block universe truly means. It is contemplating the Eternal - without spacetime, which for my primitive ape brain has been a struggle. The ancients may have been right-everything is fated. Physicists are the modern sages who have thrown their bag of bones and examined the entrails of the corpse of the cosmos. They tell us that everything that will happen has already happened. Yesterday the people in the restaurant next to me seemed like NPC characters; today I realize with horror that I am one too. You know the old saying "All the world's a stage and all of us are merely players." Let us make the most of our relativistic "nows" which may have no intrinsic meeting, but in the end, it's all we can cling to as we ponder eternity.
@Hippiekinkster
@Hippiekinkster 2 года назад
Space-time is a difficult concept for me as well. I more or less grasp the idea intellectually, but I don't have an intuitive conception of it. I guess I'll just have to wait for an epiphany.
@SpotterVideo
@SpotterVideo 2 года назад
Sabine has done an excellent job of asking the hard questions that many others have ignored. Is "Beauty" really necessary? Quantum Entangled Twisted Tubules: "A theory that you can't explain to a bartender is probably no damn good." Ernest Rutherford When we draw a sine wave on a blackboard, we are representing spatial curvature. Does a photon transfer spatial curvature from one location to another? Wrap a piece of wire around a pencil and it can produce a 3D coil of wire, much like a spring. When viewed from the side it can look like a two-dimensional sine wave. You could coil the wire with either a right-hand twist, or with a left-hand twist. Could Planck's Constant be proportional to the twist cycles. A photon with a higher frequency has more energy. (More spatial curvature). What if gluons are actually made up of these twisted tubes which become entangled with other tubes to produce quarks. (In the same way twisted electrical extension cords can become entangled.) Therefore, the gluons are a part of the quarks. Quarks cannot exist without gluons, and vice-versa. Mesons are made up of two entangled tubes (Quarks/Gluons), while protons and neutrons would be made up of three entangled tubes. (Quarks/Gluons) The "Color Force" would be related to the XYZ coordinates (orientation) of entanglement. "Asymptotic Freedom", and "flux tubes" are logically based on this concept. Modern physicists say the Strong Force is mediated by a constant exchange of Mesons. The diagrams produced by some modern physicists actually represent the Strong Force like a spring connecting the two quarks. Asymptotic Freedom acts like real springs. Their drawing is actually more correct than their theory and matches perfectly to what I am saying in this model. You cannot separate the Gluons from the Quarks because they are a part of the same thing. The Quarks are the places where the Gluons are entangled with each other. Neutrinos would be made up of a twisted torus (like a twisted donut) within this model. Gravity is a result of a very small curvature imbalance within atoms. (This is why the force of gravity is so small.) Instead of attempting to explain matter as "particles", this concept attempts to explain matter more in the manner of our current understanding of the space-time curvature of gravity. If an electron has qualities of both a particle and a wave, it cannot be either one. It must be something else. Therefore, a "particle" is actually a structure which stores spatial curvature. Can an electron-positron pair (which are made up of opposite directions of twist) annihilate each other by unwinding into each other producing Gamma Ray photons? Does an electron travel through space like a threaded nut traveling down a threaded rod, with each twist cycle proportional to Planck’s Constant? Does it wind up on one end, while unwinding on the other end? Is this related to the Higgs field? Does this help explain the strange ½ spin of many subatomic particles? Does the 720 degree rotation of a 1/2 spin particle require at least one extra dimension? Alpha decay occurs when the two protons and two neutrons (which are bound together by entangled tubes), become un-entangled from the rest of the nucleons . Beta decay occurs when the tube of a down quark/gluon in a neutron becomes overtwisted and breaks producing a twisted torus (neutrino) and an up quark, and the ejected electron. The phenomenon of Supercoiling involving twist and writhe cycles may reveal how overtwisted quarks can produce these new particles. The conversion of twists into writhes, and vice-versa, is an interesting process. Gamma photons are produced when a tube unwinds producing electromagnetic waves. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Within this model a black hole could represent a quantum of gravity, because it is one cycle of spatial gravitational curvature. Therefore, instead of a graviton being a subatomic particle it could be considered to be a black hole. The overall gravitational attraction would be caused by a very tiny curvature imbalance within atoms. >>>>>> In this model Alpha equals the compactification ratio within the twistor cone. 1/137 1= Hypertubule diameter at 4D interface 137= Cone’s larger end diameter at 3D interface A Hypertubule gets longer or shorter as twisting occurs. 720 degrees per twist cycle. >>>>>>> How many neutrinos are left over from the Big Bang? They have a small mass, but they could be very large in number. Could this help explain Dark Matter? =====================
@fabiocaetanofigueiredo1353
@fabiocaetanofigueiredo1353 2 года назад
RLK is, no doubt, one of the best interviewers there is - in my opinion
@jamesconner8275
@jamesconner8275 2 года назад
Great to listen to their exchange. But, it's mostly above my pay grade
@grideffect1193
@grideffect1193 2 года назад
I enjoyed this conversation. Thank you both.
@sns8420
@sns8420 2 года назад
The Point is to Exist and to Experience Yourself from different vantage points - Tat Tvam Asi
@jamesruscheinski8602
@jamesruscheinski8602 2 года назад
As the universe expands, the present time is moving farther away with expansion?
@zooologist
@zooologist 2 года назад
13:25 ! Spot on!
@dimitrispapadimitriou5622
@dimitrispapadimitriou5622 2 года назад
At 31:00 There are more " objective" notions of entropy though. The Gravitational Entropy ( that corresponds to causal horizons) for example, is , essentially, a geometric property: It has to do with the area of a 2 d surface ( in certain units) - i.e of a cross section of a null hypersurface : of an event or cosmological horizon . Nobody really knows what is the correct microscopic interpretation of this entropy ( supposing that there is one..), but if we take it as it is- as a " horizon entropy" it seems quite objective in the sense that it's not dependent on some notion of coarse graining.
@dimitrispapadimitriou5622
@dimitrispapadimitriou5622 2 года назад
@@ROForeverManYup, it certainly seems like " mumbo jumbo", especially to those people that do not have the slightest clue about the topics that are discussed in this video..
@siriusradheoff8361
@siriusradheoff8361 2 года назад
What would a fundamental law of entropy look like though? Am I correct in saying this: Let us say the universe is completely determined by a state equation of the form S(a, b, c) = 0 with only three state variables. Again for simplicity, let us say, that all variables vary over the real numbers. Further that for any fixed value of a given variable, the values of the other two variables are uniquely determined. Then if we can find a function f(a, b) such that if (a, b, c) and (a', b', c') are both solutions of the state equation, then c>=c' is true precisely when f(a, b)>=f(a', b') then we say that f is an entropy function for c. Is that about right?
@dimitrispapadimitriou5622
@dimitrispapadimitriou5622 2 года назад
@@siriusradheoff8361 As I understand from your comment, you're talking about a strictly deterministic classical universe that can be considered as an isolated system. In that case, the number of possible microstates is ( uncountably) infinite, so you need some " coarse graining"- that is observer dependent - to define a notion of entropy. This subject is huge and very interesting. There are various notions of Entropy ( Boltzmann, Gibbs, von Neumann- in the case of a QM system, etc.)- if you're interested, you can search for it ( Wikipedia or other introductory articles, for the various definitions of Entropy ). Roughly speaking, if someone supposes that the whole universe is fundamentally quantum and moreover fully deterministic (i.e. no " information loss" and ignoring issues about measurement and complications with Gravity - these are controversial topics) then the von Neumann entropy does not change as the system -supposedly- evolves " unitarily". In my comment I was referring to the " Horizon Entropy" that is both Gravitational and quantum mechanical in nature, as it can be defined to be proportional to the surface area - in Planck units - of a causal horizon such that of a black hole or a deSitter cosmological horizon etc. Even if there's no agreement about what this entropy corresponds to, its definition is not dependent on the " coarse graining" that a macroscopic observer chooses, so it is , in a sense, objective . This entropy is considered of fundamental importance by many ( and rightly so..). In a classical deterministic system, as it seems to be the case in your comment, the relevant definition that you need to search is, perhaps, the Gibbs Entropy .
@siriusradheoff8361
@siriusradheoff8361 2 года назад
@@dimitrispapadimitriou5622 No, I was actually thinking in terms of an arrow of some parameter indicator. The value of entropy to big physics seems to be that it provides an arrow of time. But we could think of other parameters which are symmetric with regard to individual interactions etc but for which there's some kind of arrow indicator(at least statistically - and here coarse graining may be involved)
@pheonix72
@pheonix72 Год назад
There has to be something. If there was nothing, we wouldn't ask that question.
@uweburkart373
@uweburkart373 Год назад
The typical question of Robert at the end is senseless and he hasn't still realized it after so many other interviews? That's sad. Already Parmenides the pre-socratian and pre- platonic thinker has easily proven with logic that "a nothing" cannot "exist" it's just virtual, like the "zero" 0 is just a concept to better and easier establish a numerical system to operate in mathematics with it. But it's not existent in the real material and physical world. Therefore also a singularity has no real representation in physics it's just another limit or horizon like the concept of infinity or eternity ( being no limited "space" in one case and being "timeless" in the other) But that is pure categorical logic and philosophy- not "science" (? or ! )
@shaikhraisuddin4878
@shaikhraisuddin4878 2 года назад
Emergence = Reductionism + Geometrica pattern + Algorithm (Sequencing)
@MikA-db2
@MikA-db2 2 года назад
Fantastic discussion. Consciousness seems at times to be made complicated, one being ,,"aware" , being conscious of events and things around self, being apart of those events. But interesting, that pain and pleasure, does influence conscious being. But then, electrons have repellency or attractions So are they not conscious Perhaps consciousness, is the ability to get things done, within limitation!
@fjdhaan
@fjdhaan Год назад
I must say I'm a bit puzzled by the stance that the laws of particle physics would preclude free will, because to me I'd flip the question and say that so long as energy is put into the system, the laws simply don't care what we do in our meso-level reality; and that this isn't all that different from Sabine's point about about how we may be looking for physics answers at the wrong scale currently. But perhaps this is a question of my not having read her book.?
@williambunting803
@williambunting803 2 года назад
Sabine is relating consciousness to patterns within the brain while the interviewer is locked into thinking of brain activity as points of activity. Sabine is correct. The conscious brain works with flows of patterns. Consider music. The brain is receiving a continuous firing of groups of neurons, and those groups of neurons form a varying pattern flow. Same as for vision though vision has a more structured flow. Consciousness is not necessarily determined by dendrite terminations, the brain is held together by a network of cells that attach to the myelin sheathing to support the network physically, but it is thought that these cells play a massive role in monitoring the flow of information passing along the axons. That is the sensory connection to environment stuf, but the truly clever stuff is in how the brain creates its own reality, ie information going out. Speech, creative thought, planning, the sense of self, etc, or put another way emergent brain activity.
@CMVMic
@CMVMic 2 года назад
Sabine!!!
@aclearlight
@aclearlight 11 месяцев назад
Would not life, consciousness and perhaps even the quantum measurement transition be examples of "strong emergence"? Regarding the 2nd law, it is worth noting that entropy can be nicely defined and computed using macroscopic variables (heat transferred and temperature) without resorting to states and statistics.
@dimitrispapadimitriou5622
@dimitrispapadimitriou5622 2 года назад
At 12:00 The same objection applies to Superdeterminism, obviously. That infinitely precise fine tuning in the initial conditions that superdeterminism needs is, perhaps, the most unnecessarily complicated thing one could ever imagine as a start for our cosmos.
@fluffysheap
@fluffysheap 2 года назад
Superdeterminism doesn't have any particular requirements on initial conditions at all?
@dimitrispapadimitriou5622
@dimitrispapadimitriou5622 2 года назад
@@fluffysheap Without infinitely precise fine tuned initial conditions you don't have any chance to mimic the usual EPR - type correlations of standard QM with local hidden variable theories . If someone rejects " statistical independence" - as in superdeterminism - there is no other option than conspiratorial ( and infinitely precise! ) fine tuned data in any Cauchy hypersurface ( e.g. near the Big Bang etc.) Let's not mention the fact that we're living in a vastly big , old and complicated universe- we' re not living in a simplistic toy model !
@JupiterMoonTune
@JupiterMoonTune 2 года назад
Hmmm. The non-finite, non-temporal can't be subdivided so ... what beholds that a Sapien beholds is ... The point can only be entertainment. Nothing forever is boring 🤪✌🏾🙏🏽 Well done!!! 😘
@williambunting803
@williambunting803 Год назад
Much as I dislike the notion of predeterminsim and detest anything connected to the notion of Libertarianism, I don’t accept that “everything being due to pre-existing causes” eliminates free will. I accept that everything that happens is due to pre-existing causes, the final outcome of a person’s existence comes down to local situation, choice and timing. In the grand scheme of things we are born, we live, we die. Predetermined absolutely. You could look at the inner workings of a eukaryotic cell and despite spectacular complexity observe extreme predeterministic activity, but when it comes to passage through life of the macro organism it becomes less clear. I prefer to think that our thoughts (not metaphysical but self directed programming), our actions, and the timing of those thoughts and actions are the expression of free will that is a departure the purely naturalistic Universe that is entirely driven by pre-existing causes.
@georgeangles6542
@georgeangles6542 Год назад
I love watching Robert's videos. This is the first time I felt he isn't as smart as the person he's speaking to.
@existncdotcom5277
@existncdotcom5277 2 года назад
Extraordinary interview
@ovidiulupu5575
@ovidiulupu5575 Год назад
Free îs about infinity, infinity God, infinity posibilities, infinity Time, imortal conscience, etc.
@danellwein8679
@danellwein8679 2 года назад
at least it is comforting to know there are legitimate questions that are outside of science .. so thanks for saying that ..
@lcaires7351
@lcaires7351 2 года назад
It is not in the nature of physicists to look at "physical existence" as a derived concept, they find it difficult to liberate themselves from the "naive" posture of Galileo, probing the moon with an apparatus. Is there any *precise* definition separating physical existence from non-physical existence (e.g. do quarks exists in a different sense than natural numbers )? This prejudice contaminates our perspective of the role of mathematics and more generally information as the prima mater of everything. In any case, wonderful conversation, This is just amazing, the internet is not just garbage.
@markoconnell804
@markoconnell804 2 года назад
Have we found stars which predate the universe within galaxies with extreme redshirts?
@Edison73100
@Edison73100 2 года назад
Very good.
@heresa_notion_6831
@heresa_notion_6831 2 года назад
Loved the Deutsch example: google's definition of universal computer: "A universal machine is a general purpose symbol- manipulating machine, capable of solving any problem whose solution can represented by a program-an organized set of logical operations." So I'm wondering if David Deutsch meant something like this (when he brought up the "universal computer as derivable from string theory): There are theories of everything in the physics sense, but there are also theories of everything in a philosophy sense. The latter might explain why science works (not sure). Suppose the universe is a universal machine and the objects in the universe are just programs thereof. Then ontology comes in two basic flavors and science is just the explanation of the two flavors, usually separately, but explaining them jointly is not necessarily disallowed. The first flavor is how things happen. Think analogically about a human-built computer. There is a well-defined "determinism" for the computer and how it computes, which is a physical infrastructure that allows its programs to run. However, what programs are actually run is not (hard) determined by the infrastructure; the infrastructure can run them but how they got there was determined by other factors (e.g. evolution and luck) detachable from the cause/effect pathways of the infrastructure. The second branch of scientific study concerns what things there are in the universe (i.e., the program's that are running in the "universal" machine). Such programs would be everything from people, brontosauri, and chemical reactions. So all science is either physics, or hardware considerations (i.e., the elementary cause/effect paths of basic matter and energy that are possible) and what things there are (i.e., programs running in the physical architecture, and how these change with time, something like software considerations). These programs are emergent in exactly the same sense a computer-program that plays chess with you is emergent from its hardware, but not entailed by its hardware; it's entailed by its software. Software is like an emergent property (e.g., information/behavior, which is transmitted in organized matter). I do not need to posit a programmer for any programs running in the (actual) universal machine, but I do need to specify how chance factors and causal properties of matter/energy, at a fundamental level, may have allowed programmers (e.g. humans) and simpler life-forms (e.g., abiogenesis) to have evolved. However, under this view, non-biological "things", like stars and black holes are "programs" too.
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