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SaccharineTrust - Live at the Peppermint Lounge (December 27th?, 1981) 

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Recorded on 3/4" U-matic tape that was found in a dumpster from a friend of a friend.

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@earlliberty5587
@earlliberty5587 3 года назад
I always wondered where this video went. I wish my waistline was still that slim! :-P
@bobbyho
@bobbyho 3 года назад
BUP!!
@traedelrae5704
@traedelrae5704 3 года назад
I hope ya'll are really proud of this record! It is such a huge influence to countless people from every generation of punk since this was filmed. I'm sure you know. Truly amazing stuff
@msgeek703
@msgeek703 3 года назад
Paganicons was one of the first gothic albums ever. Gothic content, not goth as a fashion statement or aesthetic.
@ericmarais9667
@ericmarais9667 3 года назад
God damn you guys were so fucking good ! Thank you.
@deathmetaldouglas69
@deathmetaldouglas69 2 года назад
Watching it makes me miss the hell out of my Ibanez Roadster (1982 Brazilian Brown model) more than my old waistline.
@TheCheesyRice
@TheCheesyRice 3 года назад
This is the greatest dumpster find ever found. This is King Tut level.
@incumbentvinyl9291
@incumbentvinyl9291 2 года назад
Source?
@zeldawalda2777
@zeldawalda2777 Год назад
Ha, yes! King Tut level :))
@albertmojicajr.-so6uc
@albertmojicajr.-so6uc Год назад
Seemingly. When there is a band member wearing another band(s) name: Bass Player/Black Flag - What is anyone to think? AMJ metaltomotown
@cftvdata
@cftvdata 3 года назад
Timestamps if anyone wants 'em: 0:00 Effort to Waste (fades in) 2:23 Community Lie 3:54 Sunk 5:47 I Have... 7:55 YHWH on Acid 10:28 We Don't Need Freedom 12:11 Mad at the Co. 12:43 Success & Failure 15:31 Craving the Center 16:58 Hearts & Barbarians (fast version)
@WorldRockumentaryChannel
@WorldRockumentaryChannel Год назад
Fricken incredible Joe Biaza ripping sound on guitar, this was the first jazz punk art band for me
@ronkretsch1413
@ronkretsch1413 3 года назад
WOW. Most underrated SST band by miles; this footage is GOLD. A thousand thanks, dumpster-diver, for catching this.
@johnspence9718
@johnspence9718 Год назад
I really hated this new technology. Fk, I still have my old vinyl. But then I started to come across video from bands I used to go see in the 70-90's. Thank you very much for uploading this. Finally, some live Saccharine Trust footage. Two things come to mind. The first is that I never saw the video cameras during these concerts, and back then they were too large to be hidden. Probably all the Md 20/20 I was drinking. I'm glad someone took the time to film these shows. These bands sold so few records, the musicians literally starved, going from show to show on tour making just enough $$ to pay for gasoline & tolls. Possibly some spaghetti & tomato sauce if they were lucky. The second thing is how disappointing that the only Saccharine Trust footage I can find has the entire show, but they didn't play my favorite song, A Human Certainty. I think it's the only one in their repertoire that they didn't play this show. What are the odds ??
@CoffinPrick
@CoffinPrick 3 года назад
Incredible! This is Saccharine Trust at their absolute peak. What a find!
@franksmith4277
@franksmith4277 Год назад
This was their peak? Their previous stuff must have really sucked.
@heavycheck57
@heavycheck57 Год назад
@@franksmith4277 Thank you for being so Frank...
@franksmith4277
@franksmith4277 Год назад
@@heavycheck57 👍
@ratmusicforratpeople7116
@ratmusicforratpeople7116 3 года назад
this is a gem, amazing sound quality.
@ratdisco
@ratdisco 2 года назад
Makes ya wonder how much amazing footage like this WASN'T miraculously recovered. A sad thought. Thanks for uploading!
@smashism
@smashism 3 года назад
This is an absolute gem, Holy crap. I can't believe this was salvaged from a dumpster. This is incredible.
@chn71
@chn71 2 года назад
Makes you wonder just how much video gold has been tossed out by people who had no idea what they had.
@incumbentvinyl9291
@incumbentvinyl9291 2 года назад
Is there a source for this information?
@franksmith4277
@franksmith4277 Год назад
The dumpster was where it belonged.
@glenbellefonte9620
@glenbellefonte9620 Год назад
@@franksmith4277Yeah! If it belongs to your ma, it should be with her.
@EdGregor
@EdGregor 3 года назад
ST was painting sound while everyone else was punching the walls
@aaronjschaefer
@aaronjschaefer 3 года назад
I always wondered how it was possible for a band like this to ever exist? One of a kind...
@franksmith4277
@franksmith4277 Год назад
There's absolutely nothing unique about this band except for possibly their shittyness.
@WorldRockumentaryChannel
@WorldRockumentaryChannel Год назад
I heard these tunes on "the Future looks bright ahead" compilation. On cassette tape in 1981.
@turkeydogduck
@turkeydogduck 2 года назад
God damn this shit never gets old !!!! You guys are top 5 on my list and have been for bout 40 years. Your lyrics have stuck in my head. Thanks for your real shit.
@jboyxd6573
@jboyxd6573 3 года назад
Never thought I’d see early live footage
@Jil8840
@Jil8840 3 месяца назад
Excellent picture and sound quality!!!!!
@Druffmaul
@Druffmaul 2 года назад
This legit had me wondering if it was their studio record dubbed over live video footage. Amazing quality. Would love to see more footage from around the same time of whoever else played there back then.
@sunkenlandscapes
@sunkenlandscapes 3 года назад
This is fucking incredible.
@goodboysic
@goodboysic 3 года назад
Songs: Effort to Waste, Community Lie, Sunk, I Have...,YHWH on Acid, We Don't Need Freedom, Mad at the Company, Success and Failure, Craving the Center, Hearts and Barbarians
@maddogg63
@maddogg63 3 года назад
smashing quality! south bay representing hard! fucking Jack killing it.
@bobbyho
@bobbyho 3 года назад
Getting all Skeezy with it too. Ha!
@msgeek703
@msgeek703 3 года назад
Wow!!! Baiza and Brewer, SOOOO young!!!! This is terrific!!! So glad this got found and digitized!!!
@needtashow
@needtashow 3 года назад
yes! such excellent quality considering what most video from this era looks and sounds like.
@hausofwheat
@hausofwheat 3 года назад
And this isn't even Standard Definition
@negativeimage8371
@negativeimage8371 2 года назад
Finally great quality saccharine trust footage
@traedelrae5704
@traedelrae5704 3 года назад
This is the best thing ever. I honestly don't understand why they ever wanted to change their sound.
@msgeek703
@msgeek703 3 года назад
It's called evolution. I can appreciate them here as young musicians playing loud and fast. I can also appreciate them as Joe Baiza became one of the most unique, visionary guitarists on the planet.
@franksmith4277
@franksmith4277 Год назад
I can understand why they wanted to change their sound. This is terrible.
@glenbellefonte9620
@glenbellefonte9620 Год назад
@@franksmith4277 well, just because they aren't interested in you, you can still find a boyfriend that is.
@testriot
@testriot 2 года назад
One of the best sounding live recordings from an early 80's punk show that I've ever heard, and what a peroformance. Thank you very much for uploading this.
@liammcooper
@liammcooper 2 года назад
i think the dumpster added some EQ
@glenbellefonte9620
@glenbellefonte9620 Год назад
@@liammcooper if it weren't for dumpsters you'd STILL be a virgin.
@kilohertzstudio3429
@kilohertzstudio3429 3 года назад
Rare. Rare. Rare.
@smashism
@smashism 3 года назад
Thank you so much for sharing this.
@CatCasual
@CatCasual 3 года назад
Woooooow. Thanks for saving, uploading.
@discosecret6363
@discosecret6363 2 года назад
All of the Peppermint Lounge sets you’ve uploaded are killer! I was only in 6th grade in 1981-82, so I missed all of these bands in their prime. Amazing quality. I’m glad these are being archived and shared, so future generations get to realize how lame they are.
@glenbellefonte9620
@glenbellefonte9620 Год назад
It's amazing to me the way blatant flambe types seem to have an aversion towards good bands.
@InAverySilentWay
@InAverySilentWay 3 года назад
This is amazing footage!
@tomc7434
@tomc7434 3 года назад
Great find ma man. Sounds incredible.
@picciloson
@picciloson 2 года назад
Sick find!
@chrisbopst
@chrisbopst 2 года назад
So great
@jasonmisfit5781
@jasonmisfit5781 Год назад
THIS IS AWESOME
@abuelosotero648
@abuelosotero648 Год назад
What a show thanks!!!
@zombywoof1015
@zombywoof1015 Год назад
I just came across this 09 03 22. Real good quality audio and video.
@ginoabeyta311
@ginoabeyta311 3 года назад
Fantastic!!!
@justinallen4368
@justinallen4368 3 месяца назад
Joe Baiza is such a rad unique guitarist. This is awesome.
@jasonmisfit5781
@jasonmisfit5781 4 месяца назад
Jack & Joe are two of the nicest guys you could ever meet...
@romespvid
@romespvid 3 года назад
Seriously amazing. This should be music news of at least some degree.
@jdmech07
@jdmech07 2 года назад
Pure fucking genius
@pariahthistledowne3934
@pariahthistledowne3934 Год назад
Cat in the Flag shirt is classic, lol!
@MikeIXWilliams
@MikeIXWilliams 8 месяцев назад
Earl Liberty, later joined Circle Jerks. Great guy and musician
@scottyconantwisdomoftrees5993
One of the fucking BEST-
@kioloz
@kioloz 3 года назад
Awesome!
@nenomengo
@nenomengo 3 года назад
awesome!
@dougsmith7083
@dougsmith7083 3 года назад
We need to look into more dumpsters if we can occasionally find such plentiful riches
@JohnReganSeattle
@JohnReganSeattle 3 года назад
Hi Doug :)
@riccardoargi
@riccardoargi 2 года назад
this is fucking wild! sounds great!
@SUBTERRANEANKIDS
@SUBTERRANEANKIDS 3 года назад
GREAT!
@WorldRockumentaryChannel
@WorldRockumentaryChannel Год назад
Is that Earl Liberty on Bass?
@deathmetaldouglas69
@deathmetaldouglas69 2 года назад
At 9:42 Brewer pulls a proto-Yow.
@FattyJubbo
@FattyJubbo 3 года назад
wowzers!
@thomasmartin2838
@thomasmartin2838 3 года назад
The date is probably right. They played at Streets in Boston on December 26th 1981.
@lordswine7962
@lordswine7962 3 года назад
Hearing the tracks from Pagans Icons is fucking righteous.
@jasonlynn1017
@jasonlynn1017 9 месяцев назад
Civilization thanks you for this precious document. Holy Fucking Orpheus. Whoever threw it in the trash, belongs in the trash ("the scoops are coming..." ). This is sublimity defined.
@FellDestroyedMusic
@FellDestroyedMusic 2 года назад
Fuckin incredible thank you!
@spankyx8606
@spankyx8606 3 года назад
hope they play I'm Right
@wadeoberlin7403
@wadeoberlin7403 3 года назад
those paper airplanes, heh heh
@ricardorodrigovargasdelapa2689
@ricardorodrigovargasdelapa2689 3 года назад
"beautiful as a rock in a cop´s face"
@lynnpehrson8826
@lynnpehrson8826 2 года назад
That's feederz
@glenbellefonte9620
@glenbellefonte9620 Год назад
Anti cop leftist types are usually the first to call the cops when their safe space are threatened.
@cftvdata
@cftvdata 3 года назад
This is genuinely incredible stuff. Thank you so much for uploading! I don't suppose the original tape still exists? If so, I might be able to put you in touch with someone who would definitely love a chance to re-digitize this and the DOA set in HD at 60fps and clean up the video (though admittedly it hardly needs it).
@hausofwheat
@hausofwheat 3 года назад
It has been sent off and redigitized not sure when or where or of it was reposted
@camofrog
@camofrog 10 месяцев назад
Would have loved it if they taped Worldbroken while recording it.
@danielcuellar8075
@danielcuellar8075 Год назад
Oh how I pine. Would love to know the line-up. Misfits maybe. Usually saw them with Black Flag. Early SST was sick. Huge ST fan.
@kookadams85
@kookadams85 2 года назад
Paganicons is a trippy record.
@theefishlippedone
@theefishlippedone 3 года назад
Wicked
@tomc7434
@tomc7434 3 года назад
Forgot how much AB and ST had in common
@lookhere8800
@lookhere8800 3 года назад
where you get these videos,,,Do you have KRAUT? This was opening for Black Flag?
@jimmyjimbo666
@jimmyjimbo666 3 года назад
Wow! Who would throw this out :O!?
@scott12xu
@scott12xu 3 года назад
Greg Ginn (see: all SST copies of The Stains s/t LP after they wanted their royalty money)
@jimmyjimbo666
@jimmyjimbo666 3 года назад
@@scott12xu Wow... that's terrible. Well at least we got to see it.
@easylistening77
@easylistening77 3 года назад
i saw them open for black flag on the damaged tour. sac trust were the real deal!
@JohnReganSeattle
@JohnReganSeattle 3 года назад
Me too at the Living Room in Providence.
@MikeIXWilliams
@MikeIXWilliams 8 месяцев назад
Same. In New Orleans. They were great… that goes without saying!!
@wadeoberlin7403
@wadeoberlin7403 3 года назад
"14:20" we got all night, dude
@williamjamesstack
@williamjamesstack 3 года назад
This is so fucking sick
@nickn626
@nickn626 3 года назад
OK, was the tape found in a dumpster and then used to record this (what my reading suggests) or was the already-recorded performance found in a dumpster (what everyone else here seems to assume)?
@hausofwheat
@hausofwheat 3 года назад
found 3/4" tape and then digitized, rendered and burned for a VCD and then years later, ripped and uploaded.
@jasonlynn1017
@jasonlynn1017 9 месяцев назад
So someone just tossed this epic concert in the trash. Good God.
@mattdcomedy2228
@mattdcomedy2228 2 месяца назад
Somewhere in the internet there’s a video of Jack on stage reading a poem before a song. Can anyone tell me where that is?
@OrangeYTT
@OrangeYTT 2 года назад
I really want to know the full story of this tape lmao
@gregf.4814
@gregf.4814 3 года назад
😳😜
@secretsoftware
@secretsoftware 3 года назад
When I die just throw me in the trash..
@mr.belvedere4283
@mr.belvedere4283 2 года назад
who is the drummer?
@blacklighteye1991
@blacklighteye1991 3 месяца назад
Possibly Rob Holzman, but I'm not sure. Rob still plays with Baiza, Brewer and Stephen Reed in the current Paganicons version on Saccharine Trust.
@samuelblinne6040
@samuelblinne6040 3 года назад
Opening for black flag
@hausofwheat
@hausofwheat 3 года назад
Was wondering about that.
@bobbyho
@bobbyho 3 года назад
This was the first of our two tours opening for black flag with the pagan icons line up. December of ‘81 and then again in the summer of ‘82, a 2 month tour.
@skinhead5
@skinhead5 3 года назад
I can see people still pogoing. They must be the older Hollywood punks. We hardcore kids were slamming.
@glenbellefonte9620
@glenbellefonte9620 Год назад
Are you a real SH or another wannabe that simply likes the imagery but doesn't want to commit and so joins a fake group
@skinhead5
@skinhead5 Год назад
@@glenbellefonte9620 I'm an OG from 1983. You should shut your mouth when you are in the presence of an elder you small time punk.
@glenbellefonte9620
@glenbellefonte9620 Год назад
@skinhead5 except I was a Skin in a real serious place where Skins weren't popular, likely about the time you were getting juice boxes in your lunch for school. Son.
@skinhead5
@skinhead5 Год назад
@@glenbellefonte9620 I seriously doubt that junior.
@glenbellefonte9620
@glenbellefonte9620 Год назад
@skinhead5 yeah, if it makes you feel better. But I know I was a Hammer, that Sharps aren't skins at all, but queens that like the look, and am well over fifty years old. What's really in doubt here is your ability to be a man.
@paulosicne8498
@paulosicne8498 2 года назад
Saccharine Trust would have been much, MUCH more well known had they kept on making great music like this from their Pagan Icons album. But instead chose to play forgettable crap jazz fusion shit from their 2nd album: Surviving You , Always on down. Sometimes, like in this case, a band members think they're being progressive, but end up shooting themselves in the foot. This is the only album of their's worth listening to. Great album by the way.
@camofrog
@camofrog 2 года назад
Cmon man Worldbroken is a masterpiece straight up.
@craigleblanc4593
@craigleblanc4593 Год назад
@@camofrog As is Surviving You, Always.
@romanlouche3702
@romanlouche3702 19 дней назад
Definitely lean more punk than art when the vocalist employs such a dry mic.
@samuelblinne6040
@samuelblinne6040 3 года назад
Upload black flag
@hausofwheat
@hausofwheat 3 года назад
I wish I had some! The tape with Sac also had the DOA show and Even Worse.
@shovedhead
@shovedhead 3 месяца назад
Harry Smith would have loved to have come into possession of that paper airplane probably.
@vslurk
@vslurk Год назад
Who is the drummer?
@blacklighteye1991
@blacklighteye1991 3 месяца назад
Possibly Rob Holzman, but I'm not sure. Rob still plays with Baiza, Brewer and Stephen Reed in the current Paganicons version on Saccharine Trust.
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