It’s def season 1 it’s when Debbie and v sit out jimmys house before they find out he’s Steve Debbie is tryin to explain to v this is where jimmy been going
Young Debbie was great but when she grew up she turned into a right slag and started blaming Fiona for everything when In fact Fiona put her life on hold so Debbie Carl Ian lip and Liam could have a life and also the way lip treated her after Monica took their money yes Fiona knew that her mother probably wouldn’t change but she had hope that’s why she let her guard down and trusted her
tσχıɕッ yeah but a typical teenager doesn’t treat a sibling like that no matter how much you dislike them you don’t blame them for putting their life on hold so you could be happy
@@kiramartin6158 You'd be surprised. Some siblings can be pretty mean when they're in a bad mood no matter how much you try to be okay with them. I talk from experience.
@@bananatiergod I know exactly what you are talking about It's very different when you have siblings, they compare you to each other and when things go nad, why don't the older one take care of bs I mean,its so depressing I was basically depressed in second year, a lot I entered the college but then I dropped out bc I couldn't take it anymore and now I need to get a job, and sometimes I feel like I just can take away my life It's not weird that a lot of people are depressed and suicidal, especially in my country and in general in this world
I'm so glad you added the scene where she finds out that Frank called the DFS. Just her reaction and the emotion in that scene was incredible. You could really feel everything she was feeling in that exact moment
I think what’s so significant about her speech in the courtroom is that she says “No money, no support”. Usually it would be “no love” also, but Fiona has never known love from Frank so it’s just not a father-daughter relationship. The writing in this show is tremendous, I don’t care what anyone says
Honestly I hate that Lip yells at her for everything the Liam part I get she need to get yelled at for that but when Monica took the money she didn’t deserve to get yelled at like that she is still thats scared little 6 year old at heart she has been so deprived from love and support she gives but no one makes sure she’s okay she is the strongest female character in that show no matter what happened she has always tried to find a way to make her siblings life’s better than hers has been
Fiona wasn't just the real star of the show- A lot of the time, she was the show. Emmy was robbed in every sense of the word- Awards, how she was treated by the writers and producers, how much she was being paid... Hell, in the series finale, the full extent of them remembering she exists was what, a blink and you'll miss it appearance in one flashback, because they didn't want to change her coming back for the last 2-3 episodes to a series of zoom calls? Or inserted audio of her on the phone? or using remote filming and green screens to accommodate her auto-immune disorder during a pandemic? There isn't much about Shameless US that sucks, but how Emmy Rossum was treated while being the best thing about it is definitely one of them.
That "you're his guardian you signed up for this" line was bs. She never signed up for it ahe was just put into that position and expected to know all ins ins and outs
@@kashmirigirl22 yeah but its not like she had much choice, she loves her siblings, she always had to do everything over and over for them and was completely fucked over when she made mistakes
it’s ironic that he was mad that he’d have to drop out of school and give up his life. like that’s not what fiona did. he had a right to be mad at what she did, but not mad at what the consequence was. because she had consequences for her parents actions. and he got so mad at the thought of having to face that same fate. irony.
I think that nobody ever cut her a break, Debbie and Lip were always screaming her because she made some mistakes. That I'm sure if they were under the pressure if raising all of those kids and herself, and none of them really cared at all
I think as for Lip he was mostly screaming at her because of a need for security in his life. He had only Fiona as an older sibling so I guess he wanted her to be everything that their parents never were and looked to her for stability. Just that Fiona was very young, too, and not their parent for that matter, while also suffering from her own troubles and awful upbringing. She was somewhat bound to struggle - and that's human - but he couldn't see that from his emotional perspective. It's still sad tho
“Liams two, sixteen more years until he’s out of the house” as a older sibling who has a 2 year old sibling, I’d spend my entire life taking care of her if that’s what I needed to do. That made me pissed more than I can explained
Some people don't want to spend their entire lives on kids that aren't theres. It's nor selfish to want to live your own life instead of having to fend for a child you had no part in making.
What pissed me off so much was how hard she fought to gain guardianship of the kids, then when the first few came of age she stopped caring about the rest and thought she could just check in and out of caring for them. When she was trying to better her circumstances she wasn’t bringing anyone else up with her.
I get this was 3 years ago, but hell to the no on the "poor lip" train. Lip had a golden path handed to him and he spit on it and wants to judge everyone else for their choices since he finally chilled out.
Fiona is probably the strongest people there is, I could die for a sister like her, she’s been there for them day 1 stepped up when she didn’t have too, they treated her so fall I felt so bad when they would be mean to her especially Debbie. Fiona deserves ever happiness there is❤
there was something about season 4 that just moved me... i don't know what but it stuck with me. i've rewatched it way more than the other seasons put together
I'm actually so glad Fiona left and made something of herself. I couldn't imagine how tragic it would've been if she had spent the rest of her life in that shithole, I do however wish she took Liam with her. She was his legal guardian and it was her responsibility to take care of him given the fact that no one really made an effort to look after him during s10-11, he was a kid he needed protection especially living in the south side
My thing is why did they never leave completely without a trace of communication bc frank is that terrible of a person. Frank didn’t love them, he was in love with manipulating them and having them as a resource to use for his convenience
Does anyone remember that one song that played during a Fiona scene thay legit went like “hey, oh yeah yeah yeah, oh yeah yeah yeah” it’s all I can remember😭😭