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Pyro's brain is just an infinite meme database. Some are so fucking specific He'll hear someone cough in a video and go "that reminds me of a 2-second clip of a Portuguese teenager cough playing Fallout New Vegas". He'll google it, the video has 10k views, made in 2009, and he'll just cry laughing for 5 minutes lmao. Actual meme supercomputer.
"Oh oh you guys remember that video, where Jenny Tails falls off the stairs and it ends up breaking the floor and makes le funny noise?" Finds a 17 second video from 2014 with 410 views "Yeah look at this" Then he just laughs for 5 minutes and repeats the same thing 15 minutes after, what a man
That would make my day if anybody ever got to make an interrogator say "who's joe?" & then they said "Joe mama"..I would be creased up everytime I remembered!..that would be like top interrogation clip of all time..imo!..
Its a shame all the JCS imitators miss the fact that JCS was one of the few true crime things to regularly go "If a cop starts doing this to you: Shut the fuck up" and instead regularly suck off the cops
yeah, JCS probably has an actual degree or at least a lot of real experience/knowledge, these dudes just take whatever and say "look that makes him a criminal!!!"
I don't get it, why would you want a show to actually state what you should do on a police interrogation? "-If you ever get interrogated, plead to complete silence and don't say a word until it is completely necessary -Okie, JCS, tee-hee, now I have everything I need to know. I'm gonna commit murder and follow every single piece of advice!" And I'm seriously asking it because maybe I'm missing something.
@@hanshecker9075 Because it's the safest thing for even innocent people to do, and exercising your rights is always 100% the correct thing to do. Of course, JCS's thing isn't 'don't talk with the police', it's the actual tactics the police use to get you to talk, talk, *talk, **talk even more**, and incriminate yourself, which is only one part (and an increasingly smaller one) in getting successful convictions.
Imagine being arrested after killing your entire family, only to realize that 14 years later, an ex-commentary RU-vidr is laughing at an analysis of your interrogation on livestream.
You can act any way and they would call it incriminating behavior. You act nervous its because you killed someone, you act relaxed its because you killed someone.
Point of note: They're not signing away their rights. The Miranda Warning is merely you being informed of your rights, and the signature is there to confirm you've been informed and understood them. At any time throughout the interview, they can shut up or request a lawyer, those rights are sacrosanct and not something you can sign away.
@@alexanderleonardi3625 Of course they lie, they're allowed and expected to when conducting an investigation (or, really, any time) But you still have those rights, technically. And they're not actually allowed to lie to you about your rights, though they can of course answer any questions about them vaguely and imply something that isn't true. For example, if you ask "can I get a lawyer?", they can get away with saying "You don't really need one for this", 'answering your question' rather than taking it as the obvious request for a lawyer it is. You gotta outright state, in no uncertain terms, that you want a lawyer or they can bullshit around it.
@@Hakasedess i wasnt talking about lying to them. i was talking about lying to EVERYONE. but of course you already knew that, or you wouldnt have chosen to misinterpret it that badly
@@alexanderleonardi3625 I thought we were talking about the video, man, not police as an institution and the need to abolish it if we are ever to be safe and free as a society.
I'd do awful in an investigation, even if I'm innocent, Anything like this scares the hell out of me and I'd honestly start to think I did something wrong
"He looks like TommyInnit" Most probably, it could be Tommy himself. Just looking a bit different so the police would think of him as a different person
The thing about trying to make him show remorse is so they can hit him with a harder sentence in court. If they can demonstrate he isn't showing any remorse, that will make his crime appear more severe and his character seem a lot worse so they can put him behind bars longer
As an autistic person, Knowing that I and others autistic people simply don’t pick up on or display these behavioral indicators and body language cues, All of this is very fascinating for me to watch but seriously makes me very concerned about how an interrogator would read my very odd and probably conflicting body language. All social interaction with strangers (and even with extended family to some extent) is stressful with autism. Especially so in a situation where you have just seen something very horrific and are now being interrogated by somebody who has the power to take you away from everything in life that gives you comfort and security (Plus in this situation you’re probably questioning nick’s involvement in this). Stress levels are basically off the chart. Second problem, A lot of the things this officer has been taught to do to appear LESS threatening to the neuro-typical human brain, are actually pretty threatening and EXTREMELY uncomfortable for autistic people. Namely, getting so close to the person they are questioning. Scooting the chair closer at the start, already uncomfortable, and then leaning in during critical moments, Worst thing you could do, I’ll probably stutter more not less. Your basically being cornered is what it feels like. Some autistic people are also very observant, like me. I might actually notice the mimicking behavior after awhile and while I can’t say for certain if it would make me totally uncomfortable it would definitely be distracting if I did happen to notice. God I hope I never end up in an interrogation room, that would go horribly.
TBH these days a lot of interrogators are more aware of autism and the like, and are better at understanding things like shock or people with strange affect- but yeah, frankly the most important thing is lawyer, lawyer, lawyer
I was thinking the exact same thing. When I go through traumatic or even just bad events my feelings just shut off, I'm completely calm, I don't pick on social clues. Also my memory is shit so I wouldn't remember how things went and if someone starts questioning my statements I'd also star questioning them, mumbling and acting kinda sus. So idk how things would go for me, it's kinda scary
Now imagine having autism AS WELL AS tourettes like me, shit wouldve been even more difficult, especially due to the ticks occuring more frequently the more stressed you are 😭
One of the major flaws of the ability for cops to lie in interrogations is that often it can result in false confessions and innocent people being blamed for stuff they didn’t so
yeah kinda funny how police will say how pleading guilty is your best chance, but in interrogations will say they have evidence for the crime. like wtf are you meant to do if you arent lucky enough to have an alibi for the crime time and believe the detective has something that proves you were there
@@heartdex If you weren't there, then don't confess lmao. If you confess to something you know you didn't do, simply because a police officer gave you a stern talkin' to, you're an idiot/extremely weak minded. This isn't the middle ages, you aren't getting your fingernails pulled for being suspected of stealing livestock. I know full well that it happens, but I have no sympathy for people who do it in the west aside from kids/mentally handicapped people.
Pyro react stream checklist: -"Hello guys" in a funny voice -"So I'll be reacting today" -*waits for chat to post him content to react to* -*opens the video* -*malds and nitpicks the intro* -*video actually starts* -*when a funny word is said - repeats it and laughs* -"GUYS STOOOOP HE DOESNT LOOK LIKE *random character from media/internet*" -"its literally *random show/game*" *proceeds to show clip of said random show/game*" bonus points if it's related to Better Call Saul/Breaking Bad -"brooo it's like when *proceeds to reference an obscure franchise*" -"thanks for all the subs guys btw" -*video ends* -"okay, that's all all we have time for" -"Bye" in a funny voice
* car horn* "hey guys Quan Daledingle my cousin ryan finlge horn the 15th was recently released from prison after serving 30 life sentences after selling the family's dog for heroin"
9:45 it may be kinda funny to meme in an interrogation, they may get pissed but fuck it "We went up to joe's house at 9:00" "Who's Joe?" "Joe mama" and then you give the cop a straight fucking face stare for a solid minute, apologize and continue with the interrogation
“Can’t they take DNA?” Nah, it’s his family and his house. It’d be muddled. Plus, he shot them. He may not have touched the bullets, and could have hid the magazine.
I mean if they found someone else’s prints (ex. one of the friends’) then thats a clear sign its that person otherwise they’d have to continue interrogating/investigating with knowing the other friends are most likely innocent unless they were involved with the murder in some other way
Listening to Pyro talk about degrees of homicide is like scratching a plate right next to your ears. Pyro, for the love of god, 1st degree is the WORST because it's premeditated. 2nd degree is partially accidental and it can be considered involuntary, reducing the charges. 3rd degree is just purely accidental and it can't be heavily charged. It's not based on how much score you got at the end of the round.
I dont care what the fbi or the cia uses man. Law and science doesn't give a shit about what an official government agency uses if its unfounded or infringes upon someone's rights.
@@mariuszpudzianowski8400 polygraphs are still used today and are actually very effective. They are not lie detector machines, but they are used because people THINK they are and will often confess while being hooked up to it just out of fear.
Taylor: repeats the same thing over and over cutting himself off mid sentence trying to say something Narrator: he picked up a water bottle, this shows he wants to say something
Here the detective uses a technique called "talking", as a means of both conveying and attaining information; he achieves this using his vocal chords, and knowledge of human language.
I get that Pyro is taking the piss with the body language stuff like "No duh when a cop tells you you'll go to prison forever you'd be nervous" but then also goes to show the dude is just so relaxed at his family being offed; showing exactly why they explained all the body language stuff in the first place. Side note: when you sign the paper acknowledging your rights you're not signing them away. Any of those boys could have asked for a lawyer, said nothing, and then went about the questions in a different way with a lawyer there. Yeah they put you in a small room and lie a bit but when they're asking you all this stuff you're choosing not to apply your right to remain silent. Nothing they do in this video is illegal or encroaching on any rights whatsoever. (In THIS video. Not that it NEVER happens because when it does it's illegal, immoral, and very much not ok.) Agreed with the kid on the court gamble too weirdly enough. if your options are '99% you go to prison forever' or 'admit you did it and 100% you go to prison forever' you'd wanna take that chance.
They didn't explain the nervous behavior to show contrast with how relaxed the killer was, they told us what the behavior could mean on its own. Picking up the bottle could mean he's hiding something, off beat taps on the table could mean what he's saying is a lie. The nerves analysis just seemed redundant given that they're teenagers in an interrogation room with an officer who said they could be put away for life, that alone would explain the nervous behavior. That's why the relaxed and apathetic demeanor was jarring. Also it varies between states, but interrogators can lull you into a sense of safety to trick you into signing away your right to an attorney, near the beginning when they treat it like it's just some questioning and not that your a suspect.
@@jackofnotrades13579 Fair points. Cops can be shady as heck sometimes but if you end up signing away your rights at the end of the day it's on you for not reading the fine print and being as cautious as possible considering the situation. (Only if done in a legal way of course.)
The thing with body language analysis is that a person needs to observe a baseline of behavior before they can accurately analyze for any indications of falsehood. While some of the behaviors in this video can be used to indicate guilt, it's mostly speculative without that baseline.
kind of annoys me how pyro is being so daft about this. its clear he simply dislikes the states political and LEO system but he clowns on it so hard its distracting and lowkey annoying. hes a funny guy, he has other jokes, just use them. Pyro is not smarter than the CIA, simple as that
@@xScurn to be fair, if you don't like his commentary i think it would be best to watch the original video instead, i personally think parts of the interrogation are off-putting, i also suspect the narrator overplaying some things, though im no interrogation expert so i likely could be wrong.
@@crusaderthestranger5982 i do love pyro and i love his commentary for the most part. im just griping about something relatively small is all. in the grand scheme of things id rather watch his take on it than the original video hes a very funny guy!
@@delete---7593 Its creepy that you have to he informed of your rights before being interrogated by an investigator? I highly disagree with you, thats exactly what should happen.
@@123evilwolf A couple bad apples join the police force and now everyone thinks every cop is incompetent, corrupt and racist. Idiots, those lot are. I certainly understand having a bit of distrust towards officers when it comes to that but man the level of stupidity some people show is simply amazing, it's as if they've never seen a cop before who actually does their job because they're too busy looking for something negative about them. Dunno about the UK or EU though.
i mean even if cops do the right thing they're still helping contribute to a system built on enforcing the will of an increasingly oppressive and dying capitalist system
Honestly watching this video only makes me with JCS would come back. JCS didn't over explain things like the dude in this video and often only cut in when there was actually something notable to say. This new guy really does seem like a cheap knockoff that only did surface level analysis.
Yeah, JCS felt like he actually knew his shit and never over analyse pointless crap. Like this dude spent way too long analysing him picking up a damn water bottle
@@rafaelmassobrio8346 and? Channel age is fucking irrelevant, it's the content that matters and JCS has been doing that kind of content way longer, the channel shown here only started hopping onto it during JCSs prime
@@LORDdrPepper No need to get angry about it. All I was saying is that the channel started uploading before JCS. Just because JCS is more popular, doesn't make everything that is similar to it a clone. And I agree with you that JCS had higher quality uploads.
A not completely the same but just as good is Matt Orchard. He is phenomenal and has started to branch and flourish in his own style. If you like JCS you'll like Matt Orchard
What most people don't understand is that not all subs are built equal. The SM-8 isn't a burner sub. It really is for exploring and surveying Blood Oceans. If they send you down in the Iron Lung. They don't give a damn if you come back. Or if the sub comes back, because it's a pile of garbage and you're a piece of crap. You come back with photos? Great. You sit down there and suffocate, quietly. Even better. But if they send the SM-8 down, one of the scientists is piloting and they all expect them to return. And now the SM-8 is in the Blood Oceans in pieces. No, not "hit a rock" pieces or "sprung a leak" pieces. It look like something tore it up. And the weirdest thing is that nobody else seems surprised. We might have found the first planetary life since the rapture, and they're acting like it's no big deal. I know you're next in line for realization in the Iron Lung. And usually that means you won't be seeing the stars again
Man I miss JCS, there a some good inspired by JCS channels but most just overexplain and are so low effort. Watching a JCS video was like watch a fully legitimate documentary.
@@matryssey there's All Fuzzed Out, a really good channel that only new, they have two videos but they're such high production value that they seem like legit documentaries. There's also Dreading which is probably my favourite true crime channel and they upload 1 hour videos every week.
I've been in an interrogation room before (I wasn't in trouble but I was around someone that did a crime before they did it and they thought I knew something or might know something about his motives) and I can tell you that the lighting for the interrogation rooms are bright like really bright and it's really cold. Cold enough for you to need a jacket but warm enough for you to not freeze. It has no windows and it's big but is designed to look really small and cramped. I didn't have to go through any of the intimidation tactics so I can't speak on that but I do know that after 5 minutes of staying in that room, I wanted to do anything to get out with how trapped and caged you feel.
26:47 it wouldn’t be wise to use DNA to find out who the murderer is. Assuming the murder weapon is missing, if they swab the inside of the house, they’re just gonna find Nicks DNA anyways, because he lives there. Finding that DNA isn’t a hard thing to come by. Even if they found his friends DNA, there’s an argument to be had that they went over to hangout a few days ago.
22:46 That just reminded me of that incident where a 15 year old boy, Daniel Petric, shot both of his parents because they took away his copy of Halo 3, not only that, but also because Daniel’s father hated video game violence.
Pyro always reads out the same dialogue about how” when you’re in the interrogation room the police become really manipulative but its to catch a killer so it’s justified” Every single one of these videos he reacts to he reiterates the same dialogue like an oblivion noc
Do you realize that’s literally every streamer’s audience? People with friends and things to do don’t spend their time watching someone do something mundane for 4 hours straight.
Genuine question but should I ask for one in any situation? Even if the reason for an interrogation might be a minor offense? I’ve never been arrested but I’d like to know what to do if it ever happens
@@KnightKingu you are constitutionally entitled to a free attorney, might as well use it. You are also entitled to a free public defender if you qualify (low gross income based in my state) but you have to request them 5 days before your court date. Never say a word to the police, even your name. When they say "anything you say can be used against you", they mean it.
No, ask for a telephone call and order pizza, the police have to pay for anything you order as you are their responsibility, you can also play games on the interrogators phone if you get really bored of talking to them.
FINALLY ! the authorities connected the dots and realized how fishy it was for Prince Philip to have died on Tommy's birthday....I guess that "crush" on the Queen was more severe than people thought
Yeah, no, this is bs. If the Police have a reason to take you into custody for a major offense like mass murder, they can take your DNA without consent. And even if you are only there for a petty crime, the police need to get a "compulsion order" from the judge to be able to take your DNA without your permission. At the point of both situations, they dont need to "sneakily" do it, they just do it.
He was probably terrified that the family would think it was him. But now that I think about it if I was in his situation I probably wouldent of killed my other family members.
Honestly I get what Pyro is saying at the end there. This whole time I'm thinking in my head "C'mon man put up a good defense, defend yourself dont just sit there." but at the same time, we've known he was guilty since the start, and even if his father was abusive or parents were strict, you'd also have to factor in his two innocent little brothers, and as the oldest of three that is what kills all empathy I might have for him.
'can't they just use dna?' and find out what? that Nick literally lives in the same house as his parents? that he is in fact genetically related to them and that his dna footprint was actually left behind in the very same house that he lives in? yeah true thats buzzword facts
25:23 the reason hes wearing gloves is probably because in interrogations, if your dna isnt in the system, they give you a water bottle so they can get dna on the cup, so he probably has the gloves on incase he needs to grab the bottle without tampering with the dna
What would DNA prove? That he lived at his own house? They have to put him at the scene of the crime at the time. In most cases, DNA is useful because it proves someone was where they weren't supposed to be. It gets complicated when the murderer lives with the victim.
I like to imagine I'm sitting in the room next to the interrogation, watching the whole thing unfold with Pyro and a few detectives. But none of us are talking and he just won't shut the fuck up.
Alright so I've been watching these and have watched this interrogation specifically as well but watching this video I realized this is the only way TO watch it. Your commentary is gold brothah. I'm hooked. Hope you cover all of em lol
The guy that looks like Tommyinnit makes me feel uncomfortable. Although surprisingly, it’s not because he looks like Tommyinnit. His first name’s Nicholas, he goes by Nick, and his last name starts with B. And he’s been arrested. That hits a little too close to home. Difference is what I did was a delinquency.
What were you doing to get arrested? Saying untruths to me will get you locked up for the rest of your life, so you better be truthful. "He lies straight to Nick Bastions face to build rapport, a little hard on him, but this is true technique"
42:30 that cop is either a 4 brain genius mocking him or just being blunt because life scout is the rank before Eagle Scout. Yeah he’s got life rank, but he’s also getting life in prison
