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Safecrackers - Geoff Edwards RARE PILOT 

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You may have just heard of this one, but now it's out. Found on a back shelf in my vault...the very rare Geoff Edwards pilot...SAFECRACKERS!
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@timconklin2050
@timconklin2050 11 месяцев назад
Always thought it was a weird factoid that Geoff Edwards made his network TV debut on NBC in 1963 ... as a Dallas radio reporter being interviewed after having just witnessed Jack Ruby's gunning down of Lee Harvey Oswald.
@imboredsoyoumustbeboredpar3054
I remember seeing something like this before. There was some guy who I know in the game show business now who ripped this idea off but forget the name of it only because of how awful it was. This one was pretty good. The game sort of like Match Game but original enough to be something of its own and the bonus round was well executed. Surprised this didn't make it past the pilot stage. Thanks for the upload Wink.
@yaywhewclips242
@yaywhewclips242 Год назад
The regular play is slowish. But the bonus round is really exciting. $25,000 was a whole lot in 1976!!
@kenmarks4808
@kenmarks4808 Год назад
Geoff is a great host. He made this game work and pushed it through. The front game is choppy and slow with a little bit of polish this could’ve been a very good game.
@DLCOrganization
@DLCOrganization Год назад
Speaking of marks... I contend there are at least two _punctuation_ marks missing from that last sentence. (Just an observation.)
@James-mdnght
@James-mdnght Год назад
Wait, there’s a vault inside a vault?!
@markblackmore521
@markblackmore521 Год назад
Poor McLean. Following his ill fated choice to leave MASH he would become just a game show lizard
@jamesklatt
@jamesklatt Год назад
It was criminal how mash treated the character that way.
@giovannia5685
@giovannia5685 Год назад
Thank you so much for sharing this rare pilot, Wink. A lot of takeaways from this one: The set is cool, albeit a little cheap in some spots. The front game can get a little tedious and slow at times, but it’s interesting. Geoff was the master host he usually was. I’m thinking for the bonus game, “Could there be some sort of buyout offer if the contestant doesn’t feel confident in their answers?” Again, really nice to see this rarity. 😁
@ryanstrnad8442
@ryanstrnad8442 Год назад
Before I viewed this, I was thinking "Safecrackers" may have been a Goodson-Todman Production, considering the name being used for one of The Price is Right games, and Edwards DID have an open relationship with those producers since he was considered to host Family Feud (while Dawson obviously got the nod) but at the end of the credits, it said "1975" and the pricing ga,e with the same name debuted very soon after that (maybe 1976). That Fisman-Freer didnt do much, at least during the 80's & beyond. This is why I only call myself an AMATEUR game show historian, a profesional game show historian would know all about them. I wonder off the top of my head if they produced "Dealer's Choice"?
@2005dave
@2005dave Год назад
Correct… they also packaged the Diamond Head Game. Ed Fishman had previously worked for Heatter-Quigley on Hollywood Squares and Baffle. And I seem to recall one of them was married to Jane Nelson, model/hostess in many of their productions.
@andrewschroy6368
@andrewschroy6368 Год назад
@@2005dave Ed's still married to Jane, IIRC.
@yaphettvazquez9796
@yaphettvazquez9796 11 месяцев назад
You Won $25,000!!!!!
@brianeasterling9317
@brianeasterling9317 Год назад
Thanks for this one! Always good to see Geoff Edwards - such an affable guy!
@Almafeta
@Almafeta Год назад
If there was any reason this game wasn't picked up, it was that front game. I could see it running long and over time frequently - it wanted to be Pyramid, but I could see frequent cases where the joking around would mean a full episode would be ONLY front game - and possibly not even a full match's front game. That said I woudn't have minded. Gameplay was engaging and none too difficult to follow along with.
@bmasters1981
@bmasters1981 Год назад
" I could see it running long and over time frequently - it wanted to be Pyramid, but I could see frequent cases where the joking around would mean a full episode would be ONLY front game - and possibly not even a full match's front game." That was the main trouble w/Celebrity Bullseye w/the late Jim Lange in 1981 and '82-- the main game was a best-of-three match, and the celebrities being who they were slowed down the game immensely, to where on many shows, we wouldn't even see Bonus Island (then again, it probably wouldn't have been fair to the celebrities to have had only one chance in each game like the civilians did, so that's why it was best-of-three).
@sha11235
@sha11235 Год назад
Should've had Emile Autori guarding the safe with the money in it.
@matthewbaduria
@matthewbaduria Год назад
This was pretty good.Geoff Edwards is great such an comfortable man.
@shawnquinn9534
@shawnquinn9534 Год назад
Why didn't this sell? This would have been a great show, and honestly I think it's worth another try even today.
@sha11235
@sha11235 Год назад
Game was a little slow. Also, was McClean deaf? He couldn't hear the questions being asked to him?
@meyerj75
@meyerj75 Год назад
I can see why this didn't work. Too many Hollywood Squares like bluffs coming from McClane Stevenson while answering questions in the form of classic Goodson-Toddman panelist shows like I've Got A Secret, What's My Line, or To Tell The Truth. This was ideal for Geoff Edwards despite working on 30 episodes of The New Treasure Hunt that year (1975), he was about to be discharged from Jackpot and did two pilots in case he lands on a replacement. Other than Safecrakers, the other was Shoot The Works (later Shoot For The Stars). Also, he turned down the offer to host Family Feud for ABC because he thought their other game show The Neighbors sucked. Family Feud would have lasted within a year with him on board anyways. Thank God for Richard Dawson. Edwards did settle for Shoot For The Stars even if it lasted a mere 9 months.
@stedco75
@stedco75 Год назад
I would have pegged this as a Bob Stewart show (more celebrities than civilians, Geoff Edwards hosting, blue and yellow set), but it was Fishman-Freer. I can see why it didn’t sell, the main game was kinda slow and had nothing to do with the bonus game or the overall safecracker theme. Plus there were just a glut of game shows in 1975.
@pauliorio2658
@pauliorio2658 Год назад
Great game format with the legendary host Geoff Edwards. The credits mention the copyright year 1975 which is the same year that McClean Stevenson left the series MASH.
@RangerRick2022
@RangerRick2022 Год назад
It's like "What's My Line?" on LSD.
@QHMCQ
@QHMCQ Год назад
Thank you as always for the upload! NOT at all difficult to see how this pilot did not sell. Awful.
@marcomacias3960
@marcomacias3960 Год назад
is this like 20 Questions?
@LogoMan7777
@LogoMan7777 Год назад
Yes, in a way. It's also like Person Place or Thing, with the bonus round being like Winsanity
@MikeHL78
@MikeHL78 Год назад
Ha. "Crunchy Granola Suite" by Neil Diamond as the theme piece, with a slight re-arrangement. Nice choice.
@JZCRAZY
@JZCRAZY Год назад
Hey I heard the YAHOOOOOOOOOO guy on the end credits. The same guy that was always heard during NBC game shows in the 80's!
@JL-bv4wg
@JL-bv4wg Год назад
I found this game very funny. First time I have seen this one. It can be dirty also. Look at the words and think about it. 😮‍💨😂
@sha11235
@sha11235 Год назад
Took awhile to start the show with that introduction. I was like, "Where's the announcer?"
@mattcrowley8993
@mattcrowley8993 Год назад
An idea if the cash in the safe was not won: It would increase by $5,000 each day as a jackpot until someone wins it.
@kingporter67
@kingporter67 Год назад
This is a super awesome 1976 game show classic, R.I.P. Geoff Edwards, a great game show host!
@tommyhoffman969
@tommyhoffman969 Год назад
what year was this?
@jerwar933
@jerwar933 Год назад
Copyright showed 1976
@sha11235
@sha11235 Год назад
@@jerwar933 1975.
@drewconway7135
@drewconway7135 Год назад
The bonus round is nothing like the front game
@bmasters1981
@bmasters1981 Год назад
This being a Fishman-Freer/CPT production, it would have, in my estimation, very likely had CPT's Pretzel logo on the end titles (being that the Pretzel was the first logo of CPT).
@Musicradio77Network
@Musicradio77Network Год назад
The CPT “Pretzel” lasted from 1975 through 1976 when it was replaced by the CPT “Sunburst” logo.
@bmasters1981
@bmasters1981 Год назад
@@Musicradio77Network True-- had guessed as much based on the end title copyright.
@DLCOrganization
@DLCOrganization Год назад
You KNOW it's a true pilot when the theme music sounds like it was grabbed from a stock music reel/record at the last minute before taping. The music featured here is _THE ULTIMATE ANTITHESIS_ to game show ambiance.
@LogoMan7777
@LogoMan7777 Год назад
I thought it sounded like something by Cat Stevens. A long instrumental introduction or something.
@TheCyberadam26
@TheCyberadam26 Год назад
The music sounds like a bad knock off of the intro to Neil Diamond's Crunchy Granola Suite.
@MikeHL78
@MikeHL78 Год назад
@@TheCyberadam26 It's not even a knock-off. It IS "Crunchy Granola Suite", slightly re-arranged with some extra horn parts added in post-production.
@JennieLovedoll
@JennieLovedoll Год назад
They should bring this show back; with at least $1 million; played at night; seen weekly! That would make an excellent cliffhanger; giggle!🤭
@gavinrainbowlaughlin7746
@gavinrainbowlaughlin7746 Год назад
Best us game show in the world
@LudoRex
@LudoRex Год назад
The word game is interesting but McLean Stevenson, who seems to be there unwillingly, brings the game to a dead stop. Geoff Edwards is witty and engaging. He can host and give clues! The actual safecracking has nothing at all in common with the competition game is not compelling.
@BrandonSugiura
@BrandonSugiura Год назад
This was a great show. I didn't know that the olden days they had such great ideas. Bring in more of these to today.
@mattferrerisLA
@mattferrerisLA Год назад
Why wasn't celebrity with him in the bonus round
@sha11235
@sha11235 Год назад
I guess not needed. Wordplay a decade later did the same thing.
@桜田和宜
@桜田和宜 Год назад
GREAT
@fredmckinney8933
@fredmckinney8933 Год назад
The maingame should have really had something involving numerical answers in order to keep with the general theme of the show. It basically felt like it didn't belong there, given the show's name. End game was good, though.
@FUGP72
@FUGP72 Месяц назад
Funny how the contestant always wins the big prizes in the pilot episodes.
@Frankodragon1
@Frankodragon1 29 дней назад
This is like a hybrid of To Tell the Truth, Match Game and Password but really zany.
@kevinhoward9593
@kevinhoward9593 Год назад
19:31 he said six before the contestant was anywhere near it.
@tjhornikel
@tjhornikel Месяц назад
It's easy to see why this pilot did not sell. Geoff was great. But where is Jane Nelson???
@millenniumman75
@millenniumman75 Год назад
21:25 - Wheel of Fortune! The front game seemed slanted toward one side, but it went back and forth with each round. With other words, it might have worked. I actually missed the audience reveal of the word in third round to play along with the contestants, and I got it at the same time as the winner of the round. 23:33 could have used a sound effect of the vault closing (like TPIR).
@sha11235
@sha11235 Год назад
I don't think they showed the audience's reveal of the third round word.
@daviddavenport1485
@daviddavenport1485 Год назад
I think this game would work with Tom Bergeron or Todd Newton hosting. Heck, even Wink could do it.
@NEPatriot
@NEPatriot Год назад
I was expecting the balloons to fall! That said. Drawbacks...the front game that could almost be like Top Secret only having to rely on Match Game 7X raunchy humor. The celebrities seem almost an afterthought. Major pluses...that set is gorgeous beyond anything (ed Flesh was a GENIUS) and the bonus game kind of has a Dream House element to it.
@yaphettvazquez9796
@yaphettvazquez9796 Год назад
Wow!!!!!!
@genegjr
@genegjr 3 месяца назад
what year was this pilot taped and where was it taped at?
@gregpitt4481
@gregpitt4481 Год назад
Thanks for sharing Winker! Great show, wish it would’ve lasted. Geoff was a great hand-universal game show host like Tom Kennedy
@andresbustamante4777
@andresbustamante4777 Год назад
I like it
@jdayala-wright8875
@jdayala-wright8875 Год назад
Didn't Fishman Freer produce "The Diamond Head Game"?
@Ian16545
@Ian16545 Год назад
Yep, and _Dealer's Choice_ as well.
@richardhernandez4490
@richardhernandez4490 Год назад
Yes and according to Bob Eubanks it was the biggest piece of "BOOP BOOP" he has ever hosted.
@meyerj75
@meyerj75 Год назад
@@richardhernandez4490 He had already been pink slipped from The Newlywed Game and needed something to back himself on until the next offer comes in which was Rhyme and Reason and , you guessed it, The Newlywed Game. Can't get Bob Eubanks to stay away from The Newlywed Game.
@mcfehn25
@mcfehn25 11 месяцев назад
I’ve been a game show junkie my entire life. I love all these rare pilots. This one though was just horrible.
@sparklecanada0112
@sparklecanada0112 Год назад
Jimmy Dar-rock!😍😂😂😂
@scottlevin4487
@scottlevin4487 Год назад
Very nice reference to the flint stones.
@2011paramedic
@2011paramedic Год назад
Neil Diamond's Music, Cruncy Granola Suite!
@poppopw5305
@poppopw5305 Год назад
The contestants' word display is very similar to the "Three For The Money" game with Dick Enberg but overall this was a fun game
@chrissheehan4774
@chrissheehan4774 Год назад
The show itself is very slow paced but having said that it's still 5,000 times better than Bunco 🤣
@MyDadsYouTube
@MyDadsYouTube Год назад
This was funny with the bonus being kinda predictable in all honesty.
@sha11235
@sha11235 Год назад
Was McClean deaf? He had to keep asking what was said.
@LogoMan7777
@LogoMan7777 Год назад
The bonus round was a precursor to Winsanity.
@TheEggplantThatAteChicago
@TheEggplantThatAteChicago Год назад
Pretty embarrassing for all parties involved. That said, interesting as a period piece.
@sha11235
@sha11235 Год назад
I thought this was done by Goodson-Todman the way it looked. Guess not.
@sha11235
@sha11235 Год назад
Liked it that the bonus round did not include the celebs. Like in Wordplay a decade later.
@sha11235
@sha11235 Год назад
I don't think we saw McClean's word in the third round.
@markstevens9249
@markstevens9249 Год назад
Somebody tried to take password up a notch.
@JohnWatsonPuppetChannel
@JohnWatsonPuppetChannel Год назад
Very interesting game show.
@ericvansickle4305
@ericvansickle4305 Год назад
This could be a good concept for a show produced in this era.
@operator35
@operator35 Год назад
Obviously taped at NBC Burbank Studios as evidenced by the tell-tale recorded whistling track used in so many shows taped there in that era.
@ryanstrnad1852
@ryanstrnad1852 Год назад
just by seeing the light fixtures, I was thinking this was a Chuck Barris Production. Is it?
@sha11235
@sha11235 Год назад
No, watch the end credits.
@anthonycipriano3070
@anthonycipriano3070 Год назад
21:18 alarm sounds
@Matthew6418
@Matthew6418 Год назад
Not too bad of a show but this particular bonus round was too easy. I'm sure others would have been much more difficult.
@shawnquinn9534
@shawnquinn9534 Год назад
Pilots are often "juiced" to make the show look as exciting as possible. The bonus round will almost always be won by the player/team for example.
@Chainsawslots
@Chainsawslots Год назад
This is ridiculous
@ZACHERYalderton
@ZACHERYalderton Год назад
Who is the announcer
@andrewschroy6368
@andrewschroy6368 Год назад
Jim Thompson-- Fishman-Freer's go-to announcer on its shows. (Dealer's Choice, The Diamond Head Game, The Fun Factory...)
@nextbarker2702
@nextbarker2702 Год назад
Not bad
@meyerj75
@meyerj75 Год назад
In the words of Pat Sajak whenever the wheel hits a relatively high amount during the final spin like $900.
@nextbarker2702
@nextbarker2702 Год назад
@1:05, the same microphone he used on Treasure Hunt.
@TheMusicinMe-yt2ey
@TheMusicinMe-yt2ey 3 месяца назад
This show had me cracking up. It was hilarious
@yaphettvazquez9796
@yaphettvazquez9796 Год назад
Awesome!!!!!
@alfonsogreen2722
@alfonsogreen2722 Год назад
What year this came out?
@meyerj75
@meyerj75 Год назад
Most likely 1975.
@jamesklatt
@jamesklatt Год назад
And what year did safecrackers premiered on the price is right?
@alfonsogreen2722
@alfonsogreen2722 12 дней назад
The following year 1976
@jnadle1
@jnadle1 Год назад
This pilot was taped at NBC in Burbank.
@stedco75
@stedco75 Год назад
Geoff’s wardrobe was a dead giveaway this was for NBC. Then NBC exec Lin Bolen wanted all her hosts to wear open collars during this era. Even Bill Cullen had to do it on Winning Streak.
@jmiller297
@jmiller297 Год назад
Is this set givin' y'all '80s *"Wheel of Fortune"* vibes??
@2005dave
@2005dave Год назад
Ed Flesh, of course
@meyerj75
@meyerj75 Год назад
The $25,000 cash font is reminiscent of that.
@RJSchex
@RJSchex Год назад
Theme music sounds extremely familiar-anyone know the title or composer? (It was used form many years by KPHO-TV Phoenix as the theme from "Movietime".)
@TheCyberadam26
@TheCyberadam26 Год назад
It sounds like a bad knock off to the intro of Neil Diamond's Crunchy Granola Suite.
@RJSchex
@RJSchex Год назад
@@TheCyberadam26 That's exactly what it is-but a remix.
@stedco75
@stedco75 Год назад
From a Neil Diamond song, starts about 3 minutes in. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Y0Mj_RISjoY.html
@someguy23475
@someguy23475 Год назад
A word game with celebrities by someone other than Bob Stewart? Game itself is slow and obviously going for humor, hence the third celebrity. It’s almost like a spin on the old panel shows. Bonus could use a bailout or at least a consolation prize for getting so many right. I’m guessing this was shot at NBC Burbank, but possibly for syndication. Geoff does a good job with his John Daly like role in the front game.
@JL-bv4wg
@JL-bv4wg Год назад
Can anyone tell me if this ever got on TV???
@toddwacha5108
@toddwacha5108 Год назад
The upfront game is kind of slow as molasses. There are a lot of double entendres. If this show were to play today, it would get a TV-PG rating. The end game was suspenseful, though.
@meyerj75
@meyerj75 Год назад
The vane displays are so 1980s, very rare in a game show from 1975.
@wschmrdr
@wschmrdr Год назад
It's a bit of a "meh" show. Not a bad concept and might be good for a home party, but I can see why it didn't make it. McLean seemed like he had no purpose there, and the comedy was there without him. And if you had two safe tries in a day, less camera time for the celebrities receiving those appearance fees; why not try to involve them somehow?
@meyerj75
@meyerj75 Год назад
$25,000 a day seems overbudget for a daytime show back in 1975. Could have worked for a weekly syndicated series like The New Treasure Hunt or Bill Cullen's $25,000 Pyramid.
@MyGuyJustinH
@MyGuyJustinH Год назад
If this show did make it to series, depending on when they did this pilot, I'm sure that they would have run into some legal issues, because one of the pricing games that The Price is Right has is called Safecrackers. So I'm sure that the production company that came up with the name of the show would have to change the name of the show or face a lawsuit from CBS and or The Price is Right.
@sha11235
@sha11235 Год назад
Titles are not copyrighted and since it is a different game than the one on Price is Right, it would be okay.
@sha11235
@sha11235 Год назад
@pannoni4 Goodson-Todman didn't create this game. Oh, I see what you said now.
@dickoon
@dickoon Год назад
Amusing to imagine there being a safe inside a vault! Multiple levels of security...
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