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Sailing Vessel The Bottom Line - Storm Jib Part 2 

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Further testing of a system to set a storm jib from the cockpit

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@ScottLaneSabineParish
@ScottLaneSabineParish 3 года назад
I was expecting another instructional use video on storm jibs and poof the bag opened! How has this not been done already? Normally I install the storm jib and then don't need it or I wait too long and it gets hairy on the foredeck and single handing it means risking a partially furled jib as opposed to fighting wind and sea to put the storm jib up. This is awesome!!!
@RichieKeane
@RichieKeane Год назад
Really great video and nice shots of the set up. What downhaul are you using as the innerstay the sail is hanked on to in the bag?
@bottomline4284
@bottomline4284 Год назад
Dyneema stay connected to the spinnaker downhaul which runs through a block attached to a deck fitting strengthened with a beam under the deck. The sail is hanked on and stowed in the bag with the line running forward to the block and then back to cockpit.
@SVRoquetta
@SVRoquetta 3 года назад
Having just completed the jester Azores challenge. This is something that I would definitely value/invest in. Very smart thinking.
@anynamey
@anynamey 3 года назад
Thats a great system! The bag is impressive! Well done 👏
@highnotesailing5843
@highnotesailing5843 3 года назад
Using a removable inner stay is quite common. I would replace the bronze piston hanks with soft hanks. The chafe will be the issue. I think it is a formula for disaster to leave the storm jib in a bag on the foredeck in serious weather. Imagine 20 ft seas on the deck. You will have a nice drogue.
@bottomline4284
@bottomline4284 3 года назад
Hi Gary. Thanks for the feedback. Good idea re the soft shanks. I currently use stainless steel clips and shackles to minimise chafe but soft shackles would be even better. When the bag is on deck the removable stay is connected to the down haul which would not allow enough length for the sail to go over the side even if the bag restraints were broken by large seas. Always a consideration though.
@ScottLaneSabineParish
@ScottLaneSabineParish 3 года назад
@@bottomline4284 I am imagining that if I think I may want to use the storm jib (possible weather) I can put the square bag on deck and hank it up while the weather is still good. If I don't need it, I can pull it down after, in good weather and seas. I suspect a much more weather and sea resistant bag or box could be designed as well for long single handing crossings. All in all, I am blown away at the obviousness of missed opportunities by so many. Congrats and catching and designing it.
@bottomline4284
@bottomline4284 3 года назад
@@ScottLaneSabineParish Hi Scott. Thanks for the feedback. You are correct that the bag/jib can be rigged and if not needed, put away again later. I did that on a recent trip home from the Spencer Gulf (seen towards end of this video ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-fNSvM0X5Il8.html ). Cheers
@jackbarnes694
@jackbarnes694 2 года назад
What about having a 2:1 on that downhall? Through a block on the dyneema forestay then back down to the deck.
@bottomline4284
@bottomline4284 2 года назад
Hi Jack. That would certainly work. To date tension via the winch has seemed adequate. Will be using the stay for a staysail this winter so will see if more tension is required. Cheers
@gregorpopp4245
@gregorpopp4245 2 года назад
Hi like the look of your system, where on the top end of the mast do you attach the inner forestay and halyard. Very interested I have an NS38 in Brisbane Cyrene 3
@bottomline4284
@bottomline4284 2 года назад
I use the spinnaker pole uphaul as the storm jib halyard. The top end of the inner stay is removable and the fitting is located a few inches above the sheave for the spinnaker uphaul. With the deck fitting located just aft of the windlass the inner stay is roughly parallel to the forestay.
@gregorpopp4245
@gregorpopp4245 2 года назад
@@bottomline4284 Thank you, who made the bag
@bottomline4284
@bottomline4284 2 года назад
@@gregorpopp4245 the bag in the video is a prototype which I made out of shade cloth. The intention was to have a sail maker replicate it in canvas (or similar) but so far the prototype has worked fine so haven’t had another one made.
@gregorpopp4245
@gregorpopp4245 2 года назад
@@bottomline4284 thank you so much
@henryhanson505
@henryhanson505 3 года назад
Very nice !
@gregorpopp4245
@gregorpopp4245 2 года назад
I'm thinking of having the storm jib made with the stay sown in so I only need to hoist the stay and sail together, would upgrade the spinnaker pole halyard to dynema as well. Any thoughts.
@bottomline4284
@bottomline4284 2 года назад
It would certainly keep things simple. We opted for a seperate soft stay to have the option of a white staysail as an alternative in stronger winds that were stable and unlikely to reach storm force
@gregorpopp4245
@gregorpopp4245 2 года назад
@@bottomline4284 You happy with the tension you can get
@bottomline4284
@bottomline4284 2 года назад
@@gregorpopp4245 yes
@marianoschaller9066
@marianoschaller9066 3 года назад
So, you don't have a stay for the gib?? I mean, like an ordinary permanent stay, reardless of the matherial it is made of..Interesting... I never saw that.
@bottomline4284
@bottomline4284 3 года назад
Hi Mariano, a permanent stay would get in the way in the Genoa during the 99% of time I don’t need a storm jib.
@williamturner1517
@williamturner1517 3 года назад
Mariano, thank you for mentioning the "stay". I thought exactly the same. Temporary or what, it sure looks-- well--- half baked.
@debdoyle119
@debdoyle119 3 года назад
Anything that can keep you off the deck is good.
@xfoxtrotwiskeykilo995
@xfoxtrotwiskeykilo995 4 года назад
SWEET !!!
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