Most trail shoes are purposely breathable and not water resistant since it's nearly impossible to keep water/moisture out. Whether it's puddles, creeks, or just sweat. So the idea is to make them breathable so that they dry out quickly.
@@peace7482 Goretex is good for short term runs and hikes in inclement weather. It's ok for cold weather. It is not good for anything hardcore, like hiking in jungles or extremely wet places, long distance hikes under heavy loads, and the membrane breaks down over time. As someone who's trekked in the Cloud Forests of Costa Rica with a pair of Salomon XA 3D Pros, nothing was better than having a shoe that was ultra-breatheable and drained water easily. It's simply not possible to go through a wet environment and NOT get water in your shoes, and it's better to drain water than trap it and get trench-foot. Likewise, I've been issued a Goretex jacket in the military and I hate it because the inside turns into a sauna. I can't imagine putting it on my feet if I had to ruck over a long distance, I'd be asking for blisters.
Jungle and humid cold windy weather are two different stories. Gore-tex is excellent when you need lightweight protection from wind and humidity. I know a lot of people hating gore-tex but you know, different strokes for different folks.
@@dmac6119 I have had a dozen pairs of the GTX versions, they work great for hiking and everyday use. Being waterproof is a huge deal, I'd never go out in the bush with a regular shoe, what a great way to be cold. P.S. former wilderness EMT speaking, mostly in New England and the PNW, both of which will kill you with cold & wet.
I had probably the best ever customer service experience with Salomon. The mesh type part started coming apart where the foot bends so I emailed them just for some feed back and they told me I could get a replacement free of charge. They organised DHL to pick up the old pair and the second they were picked up they sent me a code for their website. Since then I beyond back them!!!
Had something similar happen a few years ago with a pair of Geox shoes: after 6 months the heel counter was worn through on the inside and i went to the Geox Shop i bought them. The Lady there looked at the shoes and the receipt pointed at the wall with the shoes and told me to choose new ones free of charge. The ones i had before and the ones after had no wear through issue, held for years.
Again, great video. I'm a Salomon fan I have a couple pair of trail running shoes right now. Just for your info your supposed to tuck whats left of laces into a special pocket thats on the top of the tounge. Its kinda hidden as it looks like part of the tounge but its there. Great video. Love your stuff.
used mine for 2 years, I am a rock climber amd use them as approach shoe, as hiking / adventure shoe and easily got them on in the city as they work as sneakers more than just fine. I love them. used them in all conditions (trust me, all!) the mesh ist outstandingly good
@@Blviik can't really tell u what defines "quickly", the only thing fkd up by now is the mash on the toe. that got insane beating in sharp ice and in the woods (bushes / sticks and whatnot) but its still surprisingly well isolating
just to clarify, they are nowhere near as good as actual approach shoes with an actually reinforced toe and stiffer sole, but they get me to the crag and every destination so far. they are also stupidly stable and reliant going downhill with the sharp solespikes. I ride a fixed gear bike and it naggs me with the pedals, but everywhere else they are brilliant
The excess lace tucks into a pocket in the tongue or under the other laces. I love my Salomons, I wear XA PRO for running and casual wear and I wear XA FORCES for work and both are excellent. You can really feel the difference under foot, they are really supportive and very comfortable.
Been using Salomon X Ultra shoes for hiking/backpacking for a while now and I was sold on them to the point that I now bought the GTX version (first pair was non-GTX for breathability) as second pair. It's great how much stability you can get nowadays without having to resort to clunky hiking boots.
I use a pair of Salomon XT Wings on my thru hike of the AT in 2010. These changed the way I hike and made such a huge difference while on trail. Love Salomon!! Those being the S - Lab version they are a little more trail focused.
I've been wearing Salomon shoes for hiking, work, and casual wear for a couple years and absolutely love them since they usually live up to the name. Used the Shelter Low LTR hiking all through Europe this year and love them as a daily. Many models you can get on pretty good sale too.
The tongue of the shoe has a pocket on top and hat the extra lace can be tucked into and not flop around. The foot liner looks basic but I found them to be comfortable and long lasting. Salomon’s and Red Wings are the most worn footwear I own.
I've been trail running in S-Lab Ultras for about 6 years now. They are absolutely comfortable, the mesh wraps like a sock and the lugs offer incredible grip descending trails with loose gravel. I would literally run those things to shreds and still hike in them because even though the lugs would be thrashed or ripped off, as long as the upper is maintained it will still completely wrap your foot. They are expensive but you can always find deals on running warehouse.
Salomon's thing is that lateral foot support. The sole will NEVER slip around the side of your foot (like when running/walking along the side of a hill) in a Salomon. Nobody gets close.
I've worn my XT-6 for over 2 years - almost daily through various conditions and terrain. They wear like iron and are still going strong. I've loved Salomon shoes for years and they keep getting better and better. I mostly trail run and do Spartan races. The races I use the Speedcross line.
Absolutely they have sold out. The GTX 3's lasted me 6 years and clocked over 20,000 miles on them over hard, rough terrain, did Everest basecamp in them, Mount Toubkal, Stok Kangria etc. The GTX 4? lasted me less than year before the stitching split doing normal day hikes in Scotland. In the last few years they have gone WAY down hill.
Probably already mentioned, but Salomon’s with that lace system have a little pocket at the top of the tongue to stuff the excess lace and retention thing into - works pretty well
Great video! Used the Salomon Sense Ride 3 GTX as a land surveyor (when I wasn't required to wear safety shoes) almost every day for long hours. Diverse conditions, from muddy fields and rocky excavations to concrete and asphalt. The TPU started detaching slightly in the sides after about 6 months, they were waterproof for a year after that they started leaking and the outsole became a bit stiffer after a year as well. Considering that I was severely beating the shoe for around 5-7 hours a day for more or less a year I would say yes they are pretty durable and much more comfortable than boots. I would recommend it, in some workflows boots just are too clunky and heavy. Having said that I love my safety shoes as well Haix is the brand best brand in Europe check them out they worth it
I have extremely high arches and typically requite arch support insoles for sneakers but these are so stable and my arches always feel cradled in these. I do wish they still continue to make these shoes to outdoor functional standards even though these have been increasingly popular among the fashion crowd . Thank you for this video
Trail runners shouldn't be waterproof. You want water to pass out after wading or running through a creek. Good trail runners should feel dry not long after soaking them. Gore-Tex liners stay wet for hours - or days. Salamon shoes tend to be narrow and that lacing system sucks.
I love using these for hiking/running. Not nearly as much cushion as a hoka or most other running shoes but I feel that they're very protective for a faster, speed training shoe. A lot of lighter/ speed training shoes don't have much support so they wear out fast and can lead to injury so these are a nice hybrid between speed and protection. Also, the treads have great grip on trails but they're not that comfortable for wearing around casually on harder surfaces and they wear out really fast.
It's about looking like your adventurous or like in carhartts craze look like you actually work. Most people that I've met that wear carhartts as fashion are boring people that have never worked hard in their life.
@@TheFrontyer correct, function and fashion are not that same and that’s not what I said. It’s function made it a staple of outdoors lifestyle; and it looks good so it became a part of that style. Something does not need to be made by a high fashion designer to be considered fashionable. 99% of clothes have had this same history.
@@tonnyletkeman2348 youre totally right man like i have some salomons to hike and trail run in and theyre wrecked, and i have carhartt and dickies pants to skate in cause theyre so durable, but now its like the uniform of the rich international students in my city who will never have to lift a finger in their lives 😂
Suggestion for the future, for the abrasion tests it'd be a more fair comparison to do a static weight then base upon time rather than just increasing the weight
Very good video Rose, I really like the content from time to time; but in the case of not being waterproof there are certain data that one has to take into account when trailrunning, although water can enter easily that permeability gives the ability to prevent it from staying wet and damp for a long time, which also have to remember that our feet can also sweat a lot, and if it remains so wet shoes feet can get bacteria or fungus, which no one wants. How can I remove the humidity or water from these shoes if they are completely soaked? Easy, either leave them near a campfire or fireplace or just let them dry in direct sunlight.
I bought the Salomon x ultra cs wp winter boot two years ago, and to this day is my most comfortable shoe. It was $180 brand new, very light weight. Not 100% waterproof but they are very good for light out door winter activities or if you want warm feet on a trip into town.
I own a pair of Salomon XA Forces MID GTX (mouthful, I know), they have that same lacing system but they included a small pocket at the top of the tongue. You cinch the shoes and then you tuck the leftover laces into that little pocket. It's really neat since they never come out of there unintentionally, so the laces can't get snagged on stuff. I also own a pair of K2 inline skates, they have the same thing - a small pocket on the tongue to store the loose laces.
I have been wearing Salomon trail running shoes for 10 years now, in that time I have had 4 pairs and not a single one has worn through the sole or degraded to a point I would not be comfortable to hike in them, only buy new ones when I just can not get the old ones clean enough to he any bit presentable! Great shoes
Hello friend, I heard that you are typically more fond of “boot feeling” sneakers and I highly recommend trying out some of the Vans Crockett Highs. They are the most “boot feeling” shoe I’ve worn in a while and I think they’d be right up your alley
I go with Salomons for anything outdoors, hiking or trail related; New Balance for city street walking - can't beat that price & comfort lol. As for running (city streets) it's been a mix of Asics, Mizuno, Salomon, Adidas, and Nike. Salomon is by far my favorite in terms of durability, construction, grip, stability and support. I absolutely loved every pair I've owned, to the point that I've bought multiples of the same shoe when on sale and have a 'stash' in my closet in case they stop making this particular model. I have a wide foot and the way the shoe hugs it while not making it feel constricted (a huge "No" during the run) is amazing. As for using trail shoes for casual wear, the rubber is too soft for the hard surfaces. I made a mistake of running in trail shoes in the city because they were incredibly comfortable, and 6 months on the asphalt/concrete pavement wore out the two bumps on each heel; sadly this means the heel became slippery in wet conditions, however I still continue to wear them for running and walking in dry weather. Perhaps a picnic in the park:) This particular pair isn't water-proof or water-resistant, however they have excellent breathability. Running in the rain was an absolute bliss due to the material of the outsole with a much needed grip. They dry VERY FAST and even though none of the manufacturers would openly recommend this, I've ran mine through multiple washes of short cycle (30 min, delicate), always washing on cold, and they come out as new. Compared with the various knits on Nikes, Adidas, etc, the upper is extremely durable. They last for years, and after their useful life of running shoes is over, I can still use them for hiking and eventually walking in the city. So those 180-200 bucks are really worth it. I've owned Salomon shoes for trail running, running, hiking, water sports, also have Gortex and regular ones, have converted my family and friends to use them for anything outdoors. Still looking for a perfect city running shoe.
Great video as always. FYI, in 2019 the Amer Group (Salomon included) was bought by the Chinese mega brand Anta. Not that it means anything to the shoe review, it's just part of the brand history.
So the point of them not being water resistant is that the high breathability makes it dry faster. The idea being that you will get wet eventually, it's better to dry faster.
Would love to see some dress shoes!!! Crockett & Jones, Magnanni, Cleverly, Santoni, etc.!!! I really really want to see what those shoes are like from your perspective
I have had a lot of salomons over the years and, to me, they always last a long time. Also, i like wearing them everyday bc they are different and if im gonna spend 190 dollars on a shoe i like for it to at least have some technology in it. Paying 200+ for a jordan with technolog from the 1980s, to me, is kinda stupid. It would be great if you did a video about the speedcross series.
omg yassss - that line is my favourite, comfortable and (my own opinion obviously) the most aesthetic this video was really cool in the sense it confirmed all the cool stuff the company claims is in the shoes, i love them because i can feel the difference wearing them
I live in Colorado and hike often. I will never buy anything other than Salomon. Especially with Goretex uppers. The composite shank helps greatly when walking on rocks. Waterproofness has obvious advantages. Super comfy and tons of grip.
My Salmons were great - comfortable, functional, and supportive. The only drawback was the relatively fast wearing of the soles, which flat-spotted on pressure areas. I'd still be wearing Salomons though, except that their shoe designs and colors became too flashy-looking.
Salomon has already been doing a lot of fashion related stuff past 5, or possibly even 7+ years. Not directly but through collaborations with designers. None of them are cheap, Soloist, and Boris Bidjan were prob their flagship collaborations. I have no knowledge of this particular mode nor the company because I actually never wore them, but from reading some comments including yours, they seem to be built for rock climbing and bunch of people just happened to buy it for the looks.
This shoe is almost exactly the same as the Adidas Terrex at least in the fit and last (and many other things). I've owned many pairs (at least a dozen) of each - no idea they had become a fashion shoe.... I've worn mine as street shoes for the last 10-15 years - I like the ones that don't look so much like sneakers. The Adidas & Salomon are the only sneaker-like shoes that don't hurt my feet. PS. All the heel counters break, that's usual when I buy a new pair...
While i do the same thing for over 20 years (normal everyday wear instead of trailrunning with them), i never had a heel counter break on me. Have had ones from Adidas (long before they invented the Terrex line), Adidas, Asics, Mammut, Saucony. Usually i have 2 pairs and alternate their use daily so i get around 4-5 years of use out of them.
maybe the "dual" density foam is like what you found with the foam crocs where the density measurement is higher when measuring from the outside than when measuring on a cross section of the inside of the foam.
No, it's not just you. I went looking for another comment because, like, hundreds of comments mentioned nothing about it. The audio begins earlier than it should and just continues like that the entire video. It's virtually unwatchable. It's not even slightly out of sync, it's several seconds.
There is a small pocket on top of the tongue for the extra strap. P.s.: I used both BOA and Salomon lacing systems, IMO BOA is way easier to use but salomon solution is much smaller
Hey, Here's another"tactical boot" that could use a review. The reviews I've seen so far are a little too upbeat about this one but they may be on point. I trust your reviews a lot more. If you have the chance can you review the Men's Bates Rallyforce Tall Side-Zip Boots.
Salomon's are my everyday shoes. I walk miles in them 6 days a week. IMHO they're worth it the extra money over other shoes. I can easily get a year out of my Salomon's before I have to retire them. Most other brands, I'm lucky to get half that
If you do a trail runner series, I’d love to see a review of Saucony Peregrines. They’re a pretty cool shoe with a rock guard in the sole. I’m curious if it’s just a gimmick.
Thank you very very much for your time it opens people's eyes and saves people's money and disappointments , iv been a redwings mactoe fanatic for 45 years and I'm looking into the Nick's mactoe thanks to your videos.
their rubber outsole is surprisingly durable for its thickness. I have worn a pair for 3 years and still has some rubber, the counter heel is also amazing I would it put it on the realm of snowboarding boots heels
I really like my goretex hiking boots from them. The sole last a really long time. I would walk around ten miles per day meter reading and they would last around one year.
I've had a fantastic idea. To counteract the lack of waterproofiness, why not just buy some rubber socks? They're available really cheaply at the Chinese company DH Gate in the Adult Toys Rubberwear section. So I'm told.
From my experience with Saloman, you tuck the excess string into the tongue pouch (it's like an inverted baggy). The very top section it let's you push it into there and voila!
Great video as usual. You should look into Altra shoes as well. Specifically their Lone Peak line. The Altra Lone Peak are really popular for trail runners, backpackers, and thru hikers.
I've had 9 pairs of Salomons, from summer sandals to winter hiking boots. Quality has been good on all of them apart from the third pair of sandals I bought (Evasion Cabrio, which replaced the Epic Cabrio 2), which were synthetic instead of suede and the thicker lace had been replaced with a thin quick-release lace. Next pair of sandals I bought were Keen because of this.
The majority of trail runners arent waterproof. If youre trudging through it for long periods youll still eventually get wet socks in waterproof shoes and they dont breathe so theyll take forever to dry out. Super breathable shoes youll get wet socks asap but they dry out very fast.
I had Salomon's XA-pro, now they are on country side. Excellent runing shoes. Super grip, very light, last long if not used on pavement or asphalt, the protector lugs will quickly become rubed away. But if on natural trails - they will last loooong!
In terms of the lace breaking Vs eyelet all the eyelets will distribute the tension of the lace so and since there are 4 eyelets per side I'd say the lace will break first
I've owned 2 pairs of Solomon Spreedcross 3....mainly for paintball and Obstacle Course Races. I would say these shoes aren't really designed for concrete use, but the outsole is tough for small treks across them. The lugs are pretty durable and the foam density is soft yet pretty dang supportive. As far as water resistance....they aren't made for that. In OCRs you are going to wet and encounter mud pits. The shoes expel the water instead of retain it, that way you arent going for miles in soppy water soaked heavy shoes. I love my Solomons for what they are intended for. Thanks for posting!
I have 3 pairs of salomon, speedcross 4 gtx, xt6 and cswp, they have very good traction on snow,and very comfortable. When it is snowing, I always go for the salomon. The sole are steady and have good support
I have owned several pairs of these Saloman trail running shoes. I wore them EVERYWHERE and bought three pairs. They were super comfortable but the tread did not last. I did get people asking me about the shoes when I wore them. The shoe does make a statement. Switched to ON brand shoes. More comfortable but lasts about the same. Will likely buy another ON brand shoe next.
I almost exclusive buy Salomon for hiking and running because of my foot shape and step pattern (wide/outside). Their trail runners and boots are very comfortable because they tend to have a wide toe box. They also tend to last longer than other brands I have tried. I prefer the thinner sole because they feel less tipsy over time. I have tried Hoka and La Sportiva, but since I tend to walk on the outsides of my feet, the thicker soles make me feel less stable as they wear in…which sucks on the trail.
I have a pair that i've owned for a couple years now and yeah the chevron outsoles are looking to wear our. I think its because its been worn on mostly concrete instead of its intended surface, dirt.
The quality of these has unfortunately gone down over the last few years once they moved manufacturing. Had my pair for 4 months and the heel counter had completely worn through and after a year of wear the sole has nearly worn out. However, Salomon has a great 2 year warranty on these and fortunately gave me a voucher for the full amount back and I got to keep my pair!
Salomon is my favorite brand for now. I have both Goretex and passthrough (not water resistant) pairs in use. They do wear great I use them for work (professional windowcleaner and rope acces), the soles are very light, wear out fast but grip amazingly on al surfaces. For the porch they are ok. I look for promotions here in the EU and you can find them for around 90/95 usd....
I bought these the year they released for those crazy obstacle course races, like the Spartan or Tough Mudder. I put around 160 miles a month for about a year on these and then ran the races and they were incredible through trail, mud, creek, half pipe, and anything else except cement/black top because of how soft the sole was. Great shoe and worked for me for what it was purchased for.
You should do skechers memory foam!!! They are pretty popular among the health care workers and I planned to buy ones, but I went to a store to try them on and I found them so unconfortable!!! No other channel have a review of them in half and I really want a honest review that I'm totally sure you would deliver!! (P.d.Sorry for the bad english)
I own a pair of XT6s and XT4s purely for casual/fashion/gorpcore fad whatever and I think they're probably the best sneaker fad that's happened in a minute. Super interesting and wild colour ways combined with a genuinely comfortable and comparitively high quality construction isn't so common for such fashion fads in my experience. Great support, could wear them in the streets and then take them out camping and not worry at all. Perfect.
It’d be awesome if you did a video on the Timberland Earthkeepers. I just got a pair and compared to my Timberland Pros the sole is Much Much softer and the leather seems completely different and very soft, almost similar to Thorogoods rolled leather. It’d be cool to see a full breakdown.
I go to Altra or Adidas Terrex for my hiking shoes. Don't know if they're any better tbh, but it would be cool to get a comparison between all the super popular hiking shoes. *Merrell Moabs also.
Salomon 12.5 US mens is the reason for me, I can pull either boot or shoe from a box and do an easy 13-15 miles hiking without a worry or a problem so for me it's fitment. I haven't found any other mainstream brands that have the half size after a 12 for some reason, seems to me that's when they stop with half sizing US for the application. My next one is the sole gription and want more than 4mm for most and can find them but I do feel that a small sole grip lug size is planned obsolescence. While Salomon might have a larger parsed but larger lug size sole but it wears faster I'll prefer that cause that's more reliable while it's around.
Very Interesting Video! Didn't know that this was a trend now... For over 20 years now, i wear Trail Running shoes almost everday (everytime i leave the house) but not for trailrunning. (my knees prevent me from running) Not that i buy ones at the price range of these Salomons, but usually Adidas, ASICS, Mammut and Saucony have ones in the 70-110€ range too. I use them because Gore Tex Trail running shoes are "rain resistant" and have grippy but comfortable soles while being breathable. So no matter if i have to walk on a little muddy ground for work through grass or on slippery wet stones, pavement or metal stairs, or on dry antistatic floor inside, they are grippy enough, water resistant enough, more comfortable than most normal shoes in everyday wearing and need less maintenance. The String system of the Salomons (and often the price) is something that has prevented me from buying them in the past, but since i got safety shoes at work from Haix now with the same system (but the tongue has a velcro closed pocket for the exess) i am less against such a system. Having said that, when testing safety shoes i tried a pair of another manufacturer that also had a similar system, and it broke the first time i pulled it tight. (on a safety shoe with a toecap and sole protection this should not happen! But they were a lot cheaper than the HAIX i then got) Anyways, usually i have two pairs of such shoes and alternate every day. This way i usually get 4-5 years of wear out of them until something on the upper wears through, the membrane gives up, or the sole is worn off. (Currently using a pair of Mammut and a pair of Saucony trail running shoes)
Great for running, great for hiking in tropics , great for swiming in monsoon in Thailand , same with TNF. Before have had Trekking Salomon boots for 6 years and there were great to .
This is the first video I’ve watched of yours that I have found your research into the shoe and history lacking. You managed to leave out the huuuge popularity of these shoes and variations of them in the Special Operations and LEO community. And the fact that you didn’t know about the pocket for the laces really surprised me.
Since I first bought a pair of Salomon SpeedCross 3 like in 2012, I've been only buying these as my everyday, regular shoeware, they are super comfortable, very light, but sturdy, they resist every use you can think off... they are pricey yes, but then again they might last longer though...
I have a pair of Salomon OUTback 500 GTX and it’s by far the best shoe I’ve ever owned. Comfortable and tough. Wore it everyday for the last 2 years. It’s slowly falling apart and it’s hard to find this shoe now in a size 12. Bought me some Danner Mountain lights since they can be repaired unlike the saloman. That’s really the only bad thing about the salomon. 😞
@2:33 - ROCKIN' THE ORANGE. I still have my 9e 1s Equipe's, circa 1994 that I bought for GS racing. Straight up rocket ships!! The purple Salomon racing boots that went with them have long since gotten brittle, cracked, and tossed out. At my age, I can't handle the skis anymore so they're adding some nice flame color decoration to the corner of my office.
The XT-6 is the last sneaker of Solomon I would get hahaha Speedcross, crosshike, Alpine S-Labs. The fashionable Salomon trend is funny. I like see it around town. Ppl more geared up than folks on the trail hahaha 💪🏽💙 Love the vid!
One thing the wings can do is bunch up under your foot when they fill with water while running in the rain. I cut them out after that and switcher to lone peaks after that pair wore out.
I have a pair of X-ultra made in Cambodia I have worn every day since before covid was a thing and they are getting to the end of their life but I love them. I wanted ONE pair of shoe (to rule them all) that I could wear and be comfortable in any situation (on a long walk, on a hike to the top of a mountain, on a 3 days rainy camping or fishing trip, or walking around indoor all day. I never heard till now that they are fashionable. Anyway great video as always, big fan. (I think I would actually miss the echoey audio if it were to change ;p)
Great video. I have owned Salomons and definitely enjoy them for an all around sneaker/hiking shoe. To help with the price, check for used gear sales and thrift stores near mountain tourist towns.
