Wow that is next level diy!!! Really pretty loco this - I don’t think this would look bad against some of the vastly overpriced stuff Hornby have been ripping us off with lately…..fantastic job Sam…cheers
Well Sam you did it! You were able to announce your plans of a project, design it, build a prototype and finished model without Hornby announcing their plans to build a 'Gladstone' loco. And it looks incredible too! Well done mate! Really inspirational little project.
@@SamsTrains I'm definitely going to try printing this! Missed out on the balancing wagons and coaches. I'll send some pics if it turns out half decent!
@barnabyjoy You must be building far superior models these days Barnaby, maybe you should post some to your RU-vid and show us how a master would do things? :D
Nope - you said this was like something you'd made as a 10 year old. Unless you're currently still a 10 year old (which is possible given the quality of your "argument"), you should be doing much better now! What big headed attitude? The video is full of self-criticism - the model isn't a patch on what a professional manufacturer can achieve... and it wasn't intended to be. This is only the second proper model I've ever tried to build... I'm still a beginner, and of course it shows. I'm afraid your comment isn't the big revelation you think it is... so you're not the only one laughing. Ahh the old paddling pool chestnut - I love the fixation around that video! Why do so many think mentioning it is a "check mate"? Get over it! 🤣🤣 You have a real Barrie Davis mentality ;)
Just from the thumbnail I can see that your work on this locomotive is brilliant well done Sam this has been a great little series of videos please do more of this in the future.
From just seeing the thumbnail, I didn't realize this was part of the 3D Printing series, it looked like a standard loco by one of the big companies. Incredible work by Sam and amazing what can be done at home these days.
Gladstone made a charge for the hill. “Come on… COME ON!” She made it halfway the hill and her wheels began to slip furiously “Come on old girl, you got it!” Her driver shouted Her wheels spun and spun, she felt herself stop but she never stopped trying to grip, and with one final effort she crested the hill “I’ve done it! I’ve done after all!” Her passengers pulled themselves out the windows and began cheering her on.
Beautiful model Sam. And from a normal viewpoint, that livery is good. Up close is always hurtful, even major manufacturers suffer from up close scrutiny. She is a good little loco and has a good tractive power, and wheel slip function, just like the real thing. As you mentioned in the video, have a go, good project and if the whistle and valves are your concern, buy metal ones . Superb. Thank you Sam for sharing your time and effort with us.
Good job Sam! Modelling hint; use steel guitar strings for things like handrails. The bigger gauge wound strings within a set can be used for quite convincing vacuum and heating pipes. A set of strings will cost around a fiver and will do several models.
What a great result. She looks magnificent with the LBSCR six wheelers. As for the colour, your choice is as valid as anyone else's. No-one can be entirely sure what Stroudley's Improved Engine Green would have looked like when 'Gladstone' emerged from the Brighton works in 1882. The stories regarding the origins of famous Caledonian Railway sky blue remind us that standardisation of paints was dependent on the whim and eyesight of the works foreman.
Thanks a lot Bruce - that's a very interesting point actually, and I must say I really enjoy the bright yellow! Thanks for this - I might be able to use that excuse in the future Thanks for watching, Sam :)
The model turned out BRILLIANT, Sam!! The livery is so striking! Stroudley "green" was the perfect choice, and you executed all the little details in the linework so well! Leaps and bounds ahead of the Manning Wardle, which was good in its own right. This model is genuinely a feast for the eyes, I could look at it for ages. I relate to your struggle trying to match the yellows; I've printed many graphics for models via printer and it's always tricky haha. But you got quite close, close enough that it still looks brilliant overall! It runs quite well too, imo the pulling power is more than enough! That wheelslip problem is fascinating honestly, never seen a model do that before, but it really doesn't take away too much, and overall, it's so great watching this thing run!! It's been a pleasure watching this lovely model come to be, thank you for sharing the journey with us!
The constant mention of sacrifices made for the sake of weight and pulling power gave me an amusing insight to the future "Hello and welcome to Sam's Metallurgy..."
Sam, if you don't try you will never know. You have learnt so much from this. Yes I could be hyper critical, but could I do better, I doubt it. Close up your camera work shows up many things, but from a short distance it looks stunning. I'd be proud of the finished look if I'd made it. It looks like a Gladstone, so it's a success. Can it be improved, yes it can. You learn from experience, and the experience you've had is huge. Congratulations, a model well made. Bring on the next design and construction.
That's very true Dave - and I sure have learned so much from doing this! I might come back to this in future years and see if I can do better :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
This is incredible Sam. You should be proud of yourself. EDIT: You think the transfers would look better if the splashers, cab, and tender were yellow instead of being left white? Just curious, but I think it looks great.
Thank you so much David! The white was done so that the transfers would work - without the white, the lining and gladstone text wouldn't have worked! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Sam, given how well this handsome model turned out and that you designed it from scratch, have you ever thought about designing your own fictional loco and making it to the same standard as this one? How awesome would that be. You could even call it the Sams (letter number) something.
Thanks for the awesome idea - I think I'd really struggle with that actually - it's nice doing something real, as you can refer to drawings/photos... I'd find it really daunting to have absolutely nothing to work from :O Thanks for watching, Sam :)
That looks fantastic! TBH some if the overpriced dross we get from the big boys I’d honestly say there’s a market for 3d printed “kits” a bit like in the spirit of k’s kits back in the 60’s & 70’s. Well done!
Thanks so much! You're absolutely right - that's why I'm starting this 'movement' - I don't want to see people leave the hobby because they can't afford it... this is a great way back in :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
It runs great and it's gorgeous, Sam. As for the crawl speed, you don't have the manufacturer's luxury of changing the gear ratios to give a bit more power. Glad you enjoyed it -- that's what the hobby is all about. Cheers@
Thanks a lot Randy - I did quite a bit of work into getting the right gear ratios.. but there's a source of friction that I need to remove to get the crawl right... I have seen this chassis do better... so I'm quite confident the fix could be easy! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Didn’t notice colour differences till you brought to my attention. As a modeller of many years experience it amazing how you focus on the bits you are unhappy with on what you build, but others don’t notice them !
Yes a great day for you Sam. Thank you for your wonderful enthusiasm and for your generosity in sharing your modelling skills with us. A free locomotive design. Excellent. Thank you Sam.
When I first saw the thumbnail I thought it was a an older professional model! That this is a made from scratch loco is mind blowing 🤯! Three cheers for Sam! 🤩🥳👍🤘
Wowy, extraordinary Sam! We missed it yesterday. Somehow YT gave a bell for your new upload but it didn’t show to us until today. Oh, we had no doubts about your fine skills having seen you handling many delicate parts; all a matter of practice, we have presumed. Well done! The manufacturers can of course tool to 1/100 and 1/1000 mm of accuracy but we could say that some undo this cruelly quite often whilst trying to put them together, lol. For what you have achieved and for the money it’s fantastic. However, most of all, polishing your skills and having great fun at the same time! The courtesy of making all your hard work publicly available for free is more than admirable. Anyone in the scene can take it all the way they are able and desire to. Fantastic!
You can call this a success Sam. I'"m impressed ! Pulling power, torque and smooth running are remarkable and even the slow speed looks not bad at all. Again, you proved how it 'could' be done. Manufacturers take a look !!!!!!!! Bravo Sam. Cheers, Filip
Nice to see someone making model trains who cares so much more about the quality rather than how much money they can make off of it. Godspeed to you Sam!
Thank you so much! As long as I can get by, I'm not bothered about making a tonne of money... better that people enjoy their hobby! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Hi Sam. Second time I've watched this vlog. What a beautiful loco, you should be very proud of yourself. Don't worry what the big companies might think. They have thousands of pounds for research and paying professional people, you haven't and yet you produce something like this. Well done mucker.👍
To be honest with you I haven't had the chance to go and watch the 3D design process of this loco, sorry. Designing this thing must be quite tedious, well done on your part. You are so very intelligent. :o
That Gladstone on the hill is like "little engines can do big things" or like "I think I can I think I can" but no matter what, that little model has power that even shocked its creator
Considering how little actual money you spent on it you got an amazing locomotive there and you should be super proud of what you have achieved. As a I said in the previous video it's certainly not a competition to see who can make it the most realistic, the fact that you made it at all is a testament to you being in the Model Railroad/Way Hobby. What's more amazing is that you've made it public domain for those that wish to make it themselves. I know what it's like to want a model and wait for a new one to come out but no one is making it and in my case I usually have to settle on older but still high quality Brass models that cost me quite a bit of money. This is a wonderful alternate for so many people that I see becoming more common in the future as prices go up. Once again great video and model I can't wait to see your next review and what you might 3D print next time. Cheers mate.
The pride you take in your work is truly inspiring and your enthusiasm is so infectious that I want to go out and do the same but in N Gauge!! Sam to film yourself doing a self critique on your work is one hell of a hard task and for that you have my admiration. This is one outstanding modelling effort so very well done. I think we will see a rise in 3d printer models hitting the market place especially if quality and price undercuts those companies who have some very expensive run of the mill models
oh my, sam you're making great models! i honestly think you can make a great fleet of locos with your talent, there is a lot of potential here! your really good!
Well done Sam the engine is awesome. For something you built you should be very proud. As for the price now you see how we get ripped off by the big manufacturers. I know they have to pay for tooling and getting started but after years later they could lower their prices but instead they raise them . Again we’ll done Sam.
Bless you Louis - very much so - the material costs were staggeringly low for this... particularly as I was paying consumer prices at tiny quantities... crazy! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Wow Sam that looks absolutely phenomenal, sure something to be proud of. You sure seem to have a knack for designing OO scale railroad trains, keep up the good work and great video.
Hi Sam. Clearly you don't have two left hands and are certainly a true model maker. I suspect you could do anything you put your mind to. I'm very impressed with this model and with how quickly you have mastered the skills required to design in 3D cad. Very well done.
Detail is all very well, but all you really want is to give the impression of the thing and I think you've absolutely achieved that, well done. It put me in mind of the Triang and Dublo models of yesteryear which also fired the emotions of many with unprecedented realism for their day.
Absolutely fantastic Sam!! I’m hoping that people share their versions of this. Maybe we can get a video of their results if they are willing to have them shown in one of your videos. It could be fun to see everything from a first time modeller to an experienced scratch builder share what they can do with the plans. It sure looks right as it is.
I'd love to see one of the plastic model channels like Model Minutes try to build this with all their skills, it would be great to see with some custom handrails and decals!
Wonderful Model! Will be printing soon! A temporary fix to weight problem is to tape or glue small batteries to the inside or bottom of the chassis. Heavy can help the crawl of the loco too. (Of course you should replace them with proper weights)
I really believe it is! I just hope others can get the help they need to get good at 3D printing their own models... hopefully this design will help :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
What's next? The 'Evening Star'? Regardless of your own criticism of the model it is excellent to see as, from a distance, most people wouldn't know the difference between it and a mass produced unit. Well done Sam, I'd be as happy as Larry if I was capable of making something like this!
Sam can I first say what a beautiful model of a difficult prototype . The detail used is as you say first rate from the right viewing distance however that said you could easily afford to double what you have spent on aftermarket detailing ; smokebox darts , cast whistle , cast safety valves, turned sprung buffers and assorted wirework. You would still have a phenomenally value for money model which would truly stand close inspection and show the big boys up. But as you said it doesn’t necessarily need it. Well done
Thanks very much Mike - that's right actually - even at double the cost, this wouldn't be expensive with aftermarket detailing! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Eh i would not worry about the 2 Left hands, Zaphrod Beeblebrox had them too and managed to become galactic president. (sure he is fictional character but still quite fun bloke). It is amazing to me that this creative skill has been only taped for under a year yet results are excellent for mere hobbyist. May Sam never loose steam and keep chugging along, sharing his love of the hobby for as long as it brings him joy. YAYY showcase of Sam's locos! i love this way more than i should (to be fair i did voice well typed my desire to see them). 5/5* video! (yes back from days when there were stars on YT man i miss that)
I have never jumped on one of your videos faster than when I saw that thumbnail! Very very impressed and, as you say, from any sort of normal distance (and in many areas up close), that is on a parr with some of the RTR boys. Love that you beat some of them by having functioning couplings, and that they are 3D printed! Very very impressive sir.
haha thanks so much Adam - yeah if you take a step back, it's pretty much acceptable! The functional couplings were surprisingly easy... the height isn't even 100% right, but it still works!! ;D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
And this is only your 3rd loco! This is brilliant hopefully your next one will be even better too mee your very close just the paint work, a little better pulling power and maybe some metal parts and you'd be almost manufacturer quality and that's not like it would cost you a lot on top either
Excellent final result, and much better than I expected. And you'll improve with each project. Commercial transfers would provide a better colour match, but then you'd have to sell a lot of kits to make the cost worthwhile (I am guessing that nothing suitable is currently available so you'd have to pay for a production run). Yours still look good. Anybody who wants a better level of detail can substitute commercial detail parts for the 3D printed ones, which would obviously increase the finished cost, but that would be a personal decision. I am most favourably impressed. Regarding the wheel slip, I noticed that the rearmost tender wheels occasionally failed to rotate during the slow-speed/crawl tests, but others have likely already pointed that out.
It looks absolutely amazing! As for the mismatched color, I know it doesn’t mate just but I really like how the slightly different colors make the whole thing pop.
Thank you!! That makes me feel a lot better... I quite like the mismatch actually... it just bugs me that it isn't accurate :( Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Hi Sam, with this project, you have inspired me to start designing a loco of my own. It uses some scale drawings I have in an old book, and it is a Midland Flatiron 2000 Class 0-6-4T. Just getting to grips with Sketchup first! =)
That's amazing Luke - what a superb idea - good luck with the project! I'd try doing a few basic wagons on Sketchup first - it does take a while to get used to... and you'll work much faster with a few month's experience behind you... it might put you off if you start with a loco, as it'll take forever! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
You should be really proud of this. Proper modelling 21st century style. As good as many of the 1960s and 1970s kit built models and locos bashed from the limited rtr ‘toys’ of the day. Personally I think the crawl is decent too. Well done :)
You should be proud 👏 excellent work, I think you have made such a brilliant job producing Gladstone. I think you are being hard on yourself with the quality. I for one would be very happy to have this on my layout. Can't wait to see your next model.
I'd absolutely recommend it! It's a steep(ish) learning curve... and things can (and will) go wrong... but if you enjoy it and persevere, there's almost nothing you can't do! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@@SamsTrains Yes I would love a Webb Compound Teutonic and a Precedent, space precludes OO for me, so it has to be N gauge, but sure something can be done with 3D printing in N.
This genuinely turned out so nicely for something made with (comparatively) so little professionalism. Absolutely love this. I think as potentially a spitball for a next project idea, maybe an obscure Pacific or 4-6-0? Maybe a Great Western “Great Bear” or something unusual? Regardless of what you choose as your next project, I look forward to seeing it! Amazing work, amazing video.
If you went to a model shop or looked online you could fabricate metal parts from brass tubing, squares & metal wiring. It would cost a bit more, but would improve the detail.
I think you can certainly pat yourself on the back. You have done a great job. There must have been so much work getting the surface finish so good and your fine detail painting is excellent. It looks wonderful. Congrats! 🎉 I wonder what's next? Haha
Chris Eden-Green, on his Sole Slip video on the Gladstone said that the restoration of this loco had cost a modern equivalent of 5000 pounds (at the time of its filming). He even remarked “if only restoring locomotives were that cheap”.
You are now a real modeller! I recall you saying you weren't one only a year ago, but it's great to see you making such a nice locomotive from scratch. I think your years of reviewing hundred of locomotives from a mechanical and performance point of view help you a lot with design. Any thoughts about using or commissioning someone to print parts in high resolution resin?
Amazed as always. This looks better than some of the overpriced stuff that the big manufacturers are putting out. As for the tender, I've seen real locos with a discrepancy between the height of the footplate. If I were to build this, I'd get metal parts for the whistle, boiler fittings, etc.
Idea for your next 3D printed loco: A. BR Class 28 Co-Bo Diesel. (I know that was already made but they’re sought after.) B. GWR Great Bear Tips:(Likely take measurements of your best GWR 4-6-0 mechanism and modify it to 4-6-2.) C. LMS Fury Tips:(Likely take measurements of a Royal Scot mechanism and make a new shell from scratch) All of them have the space for a 5-pole motor with dual flywheels.
Thanks for the advice over several topics. Been frying my brain with SketchUp - so Sam's achievement is very impressive. Now confident enough to order the Magician X printer. A simple project is to replace a faulty motor in a Model Power Alco RS-11 by fitting a £3.50 coreless motor in a 3D printed drop-in adapter - without altering the chassis. I started whittling the adapter in wood - which acts as a guide for the shape's practical constraints. As Sam often says "Will it work?".
It's a pleasure - I've had my brain thoroughly fried by SketchUp too... but I've come out the other side now... all I can say is keep going... it'll become bread and butter to you soon, honestly! Good luck with the magician X - every part of this Gladstone was done on that machine, as I find it does the best smaller details! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Wow, what an achievement Sam, you should be so proud of what you have accomplished sir! 👏👏👏. I know how tedious it can be sometimes in drawing something like that up in CAD but because it’s a hobby and not a job then it’s a different kind of tedious - it’s a more ‘fun’ kind of tedious if you know what I mean. You say you are not a modeller but I disagree, you are a modeller and this just proves it. There are so called modellers out there who could not have achieved what you have achieved so well done you sir! Cheers for now mate. …………Graham
Sam, you absolutely nailed it and put "real" manufacturers to shame! I will try to make this loco so thank you for placing the files in public domain. Maybe I can make part of the chassis out of brass to add some weight. Keep it up. Whatever will you accomplish next? Can't wait to see! 😃
haha thank you so much! And no problem at all - good luck with the build, and please share with me how you get on! And great idea - feel free to experiment - that's a huge part of this! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
This is absolutely fantastic Sam, well done. It is a good quality model that wouldn't look out of place on any layout. Maybe you could try making my favourite loco next, another 'Gladstone' but from the film 'Oh Mr Porter' 🤣🤣
Hi Sam. The paintwork is quite a mix of the good and the bad. The boiler lining is as you say, even better than the big manufacturers can achieve. The cab detail painting leaves something to be desired, but I'm not quite sure what the problems were and therefore how to correct it. You criticised yourself over the mismatch of the yellows in the livery, but I think the small contrast adds to the look of the model. I also quite like the amount of green you gave the tender. Stop beating yourself up! I would be proud to have this loco & tender on my layout (if I had a 3D printer and a OO layout!). I think you should be very proud of this loco. Please DON'T dumb-down the livery on your next attempt. It will be better in every way.
you've made Gladstone look amazing; despite being quite basic because 3D Printing. But hey; as you've put the various 3D parts up for anyone, it's an open door for anyone, and freedom of liveries for it is gonna be great; imagine SR Green on this LBSCR B1 or even any of the BR Colours.
Transfers are best used for things that are not the base colour, such as names, numbers, builders plates, lining and such. I think you should paint the splashers in green, then mask and paint the yellow over it where the lining would divide them. So when the transfer lining goes on, it hides the parting line of the yellow and green underneath
If you disregard the fact you did this with a lot less resources than say Hornby there still remains one thing to consider. When a big manufacturer is developing a new model one person doesn't do the whole thing. They have a team. Each member of the team having their own special skill. You did this on your own. Not bad at all. Looking forward to the next one. Sprung buffers perhaps ?
Well done Sam, a great model! For someone who says he’s no good at modelling it is a superb effort. You can improve the detail of small parts by investing in a resin printer (quite cheap but very messy) or you can go the whole hog and splash out on a Prusa MK3S+. I have just upgraded from a Flashforge Dreamer and the improvement in quality is astounding. Only snag is it will cost you 900 quid or 700 for the kit (not for the faint hearted). Looking forward to your next piece!
I love seeing that original 4-4-0 engine you made. You referred to it as a "monstrosity" in a previous video, and I unironically love that name. Should it be a Monstrosity class, or should it be a Sam Class, with the name "Monstrosity"? :P But for today's loco, Gladstone looks amazing. It really is a landmark of how far your 3D printing has come, especially in a relatively short time. I can only imagine what you'll end up making next. Speaking of, if I could recommend a hurdle to jump for your next loco print (if only because I know you could pull it off), I'd love to see something with fully functional valve gear. It's like how you are with cab detail, I love it when a locomotive with Walschaerts valve gear has operating rods and valves. A lot of models opt to have the gear in the "neutral" position, but I've seen some here in America where it's set to forward (down), and it adds quite a bit to the realism as it rolls (and to think they weren't really "premium" models). One of those nitpicky details, granted, though it does make a model look a bit more finely crafted.
