Well quite honestly Charlotte put so much focus on marriage and family, she really didn't focus on any thing else.I have a girlfriend wondering on when she'll end up getting married and she's in her early 40s and quite honestly I think she needs to quite focusing on that.she may not be meant to get married.
ann l What wrong if she want to get marry? My aunt marry in her early 53. Saying too focus is understandable, but to say it she is not meant to be is a little too cold. She can marry divorced guy you know, there a lot of marriage that won't work.
This scene alone is why Samantha will be missed in the reboot, she’s brutally honest, non judgemental, loyal and unapologetically an individual and non conformist.
I am a very old fashioned romantic (would never sleep around, but that's just me) but I don't judge anyone else for how they decide to have a sex life, be it one night stands etc. What I love most about Samantha is that she never judges anyone, she loves and accepts everyone for who they are.
i love how samantha just uninvites everyone to samba but remains at the table continuing her breakfast unbothered like ''youre all dismissed while i continue my day unbothered'' i love her
Actually, she was frustrated for not getting sex. She wasn't getting any from Trey despite the fact that she was married and claimed to love him and there was Samantha, getting great sex so effortlessly from a guy she barely remembered the name of. She was sexually frustrated and on a deeper level, perhaps jealous of Samantha (I personally think Charlotte never really loved Trey, just everything he represented on the surface; handsome, rich, single, well-mannered "ideal man" with good breeding)
@@lemsip207 she settled for her divorce lawyer. She cared about the fairytale. The mans looks was interchangeable. She would have NEVER married the lawyer if he ran and owned a deli in brooklyn and still loved her....
@@ertfgghhhh She was so shallow and narcissistic. In reality she would never be content with the lawyer and would in the end be sad and alone either in a relationship with another " good on paper" man. Or singel and still chasing the fantasy man with zero flaws.
+ElvisLivesUpstairs yeah, this is common amongst a group of friends with different personalities. There are always two in the group who would never be friends separate from the group if it weren't for the one or two others with a more neutral, get-on-with-everybody kind of personality.
Agreed. I like Samanta most because of her honesty, she freely talks about what she really thinks. When it comes to Charlotte, she tries to wear a camouflage of morality despite of being a typical bitch inside. In real life they would never be close friends.
coynie3 You read my mind. I think they're friends because in there case opposites can attract. Charlotte encourages Samantha to be more soft and Samantha encourages Charlotte to be more sexual.
They have actually been bitchy to each other several times along the series, the 4 of them, which, let's face it, happens in long term friendships too.
I think everyone was aware that Charlotte was going through a hard time and that's why she snapped. It's quite a common formula on the show. One of them is having a hard time, snaps at another, they are snarky, then they make up. Because they get each other. Yeah, it's only idiots on youtube that apparently don't understand real friendships that are droppin all this hate lol
ann l nopes, when she used to sleep with a man, always had marriage/future in her head(except for their holiday at Hamptons), but Sam is emotionally unavailable.
What gets me about Charlotte is that she pretends to be a “good” conservative girl and yet she’s had plenty of sex. She always thought she was better than Samantha even though they were both pretty much doing the same things, only that Samantha did it more and was open about it. Not sure why Charlotte was ever labeled as the “prude” among the four. She was just constantly in denial.
Totally. Watching the show she pretty much always had some new guy or hookup every episode. If that rate stayed consistent through college and her 20s she would have slept with over a hundred men easily. Now that I'm older it strikes me as odd how she was put in the "good girl" role
I never understood why Charlotte and Samantha were my favorite when they're such opposites. But I love Charlotte's passion and charm, and I love Samantha's fearlessness.
Because even though they’re complete opposites what they share in common is being sure of what they want and who they are. Carrie and Miranda can be more frustrating, cause I think they’re both more confused in that aspect.
@@sydneepasala1810 Huh. That’s very interesting because I don’t think I’ve ever heard people talk about Samantha and Charlotte having anything in common. But you are correct, they both seem to have a clarity that Carrie and Miranda lack. Carrie’s lack of clarity and her trying to trying to figure it out was one of the foundations of the show. Then see Miranda because correct me if I’m wrong but wasn’t she feeling conflicted about wanting to get back with Steve after she got pregnant? She wasn’t sure if she was cut out to be a wife and mom until she found her own style? Samantha wants to have the freedom to “try anything once”. Charlotte carries the ideal of fairytale romance. I think that Charlotte here was upset because her way of living which served her well up until that point was producing frustration. She didn’t want to change who she was but she was frustrated to see that a friend with a different set of goals had (at least in part) some of what she wanted. She was jealous in a way that it was so easy for Sam when she didn’t have to try that hard but Charlotte was trying really hard to be understanding with her husband. I have been there before but in different areas of my life: feeling like you see other people hitting all the good breaks in life while yours is a mess. Aaand it can be hard to keep together sometimes 😆
Samantha's sex life is none of Charlotte's business but Charlotte does have a point here. Samantha isn't the classiest of women and Charlotte believes sex should be enjoyed between two people who care deeply about one another. Just different mindsets, but TBH I have always considered Charlotte the more logical one of the group x
That is so sexist, and how the hell is she the most logical one? She's the romantic fairy tale believer which is like the opposite of a logical view, besides what kind of point is that? If you don't like casual sex okay but you can't slut shame her just because she does like it, you can't just state that sex is supposed to happen just in a commited relationship, that is just how it works for you, and being "classy" is just a social construction that allows people to judge women and shame them for no reason at all.
Shit the 2 wouldnt of been friends if it wasnt for carrie,other wise the 2 just wouldnt get along.plus both have totally different life styles.quite honestly I try not getting friends that even have kids.id rather have girlfriends that are childfree or like to travel.
In real life, there's no way someone like Samantha and Charlotte could ever sit on the same table, have lunch or be friend with each other. Charlotte is uptight and conservative while Samantha is like "fuck the rules, I only enjoy having a good time baby.." I think this scene is very realistic. Kudo to both talented actresses who performed this fight so well.
I'm Charlotte and my best friend who has been with me since our diaper days is a huge mixture of Carrie and Samantha. It's hard as shit to tolerate her sometimes but we get along. These typo friendships do exist ngl
Well in real life they would be friends you're not always going to be friends with people that are like you people are different and opposites attract that's why they were friends
People they represent the 4 sides of ALL Women.. Samantha is the Nympho in all of us.. Charlotte is the conservative/uptight good girl in us.. Carrie is the confused, I don't know what the hell I want in us.. and Miranda is the no nonsense business woman in all of us.. I loved this show.. I am not even white but related to all of the characters.. most women did..
Yes, If you watch the rest of the episode (and the whole show for that matter), the writer was trying to tell us that we all have a samantha and charlotte in us. I remember even the actresses mentioned in their interview that every woman is all 4 characters.
Thank you I try to explain that to these women but they are so judgements of these characters that they forget that we all (either we like it or not) have a Charlotte, Carrier, Samantha, and Miranda’s in us. This show is supposed to appease all women and all sides of women.
There is absolutely no reason for you to bring up not being white. It kind of annoys me that skin colour gets brought up on a topic that has nothing to do with it.
Yesss! Even if they're sometimes messy while doing so. Friendships irl are messy too, some people in the comments act like relationships between women are all unicorns and rainbows, which in itself is such a cliche!
I love this argument for so many reasons. For one, because they stayed true to themselves without compromising, but at the same time, it was also about learning about each other and themselves. It's scenes like these that make me love and respect this show so much!
Yeah , because the situation in question happened consequently to her not ever knowing how to balance things out between her friends..It 's okay to not only fix different friends up for romance but for friendships as well but the fact that she merged the whole crowd an is constantly running off to talk shit behind some of their backs to the other two is just not only her nature , it 's every woman's nature.
Samantha was the best friend of them all, she had her selfish side, but when it counted she was the best, never judged and always had her friends back.
They are the most alike on the show. They both have undeniable positions & ideals they stick to. And they are there for their friends. It’s why when they come through for each other it’s so satisfying ❤
@@nandabanana110 SUSHISAMBA used to be a very trendy restaurant here in NYC. Back in the SATC days, it was hard to get a reservation, as it was brand new and everyone wanted to go.
Actually they showed that were terrible friends... Esp carrie.. She always turns the convo on her "mamma's havnt had her caffeine yet".. Ur two friends are getting into a heated argument that u know isn't gonna end well keep aside ur ducking coffee and be there...
@@zikramir944 Yeah, that always bothered me about Carrie, that when her friends ask for her opinion, she never offers it--just offers some clever sidestep to get out of answering.
Nah, that’s a fake af thing to do. Charlotte was clearly doing the most to the point where she basically insults Samantha. Carrie and Miranda always to bs like this and only think of themselves
"Sex is something special that's supposed to happen between 2 ppl who love each other". Well, I agree, but Charlotte, have you been in love with EVERY single one of the men you slept with on the show, before Trey or Harry came along??🤣🤣
Sam was mostly right. But I can understand Charlotte and not wanting to talk about sex all the time. Like they literally only talk about sex. I know that's the show but you....whatever.
Well Charlotte is happy to talk about sex herself when she is sitting with the girls so she’s kind of a hypocrite here. She is only pissy simply out of jealousy because Samantha is getting laid whilst she’s married to a flaccid guy
I'm sure they talk about other things off screen ..The entire point was to zone in on the sex talk more, otherwise it would be just another been there done that female-centric show
Exactly....Samantha was too cocky here... she crossed the line when she made personal comments on her...i think she knows very well that not all women are like her.. but y to be always be cokcy about it when 1 of your frnds is getting uncomfortable 😐
Just like Carrie and Miranda talked/talks about sex too. Of course Samantha talks about it more, but understandably, because she's getting more than the rest of the girls combined lol.
I've always loved Samantha the most. True to herself, free, non-judgemental, and beautifull like a model. Never chasing someone's money and privillege.
I think in real life they would never be friends and never even talk to each other. If it wasn't for Carrie, I think they wouldn't even be sitting at the same table together.
I think they were both wrong. Charlotte had no business lecturing Samantha on the kind of sex she "should" be having, but Samantha's "Mrs. Softie" remark was cruel and way out of line. And perhaps Samantha could have remembered that Charlotte was having a rough time with sex in her marriage and not, however unintentionally, flaunted the "well, I get all the sex I want" talk right in front of her.
Oh well. Don't go out with your single and sexually active girlfriends if you don't want to hear it. Don't join a friends circle with someone so sexually active.
But she only used the cruel line as retaliation. I’d have done the same, Samantha was trying to ignore her but Charlotte just kept laying into her. She brought it upon herself
Samantha is the back bone of the show, although my mind is more Charlottesque I truly admire how secure of her life Samantha is, she is unapologetically herself but doesn't come off as arrogant once.
I've heard Samantha called "trampy" and I think it's very unfair. No one uses words like that to describe men who have a lot of sex partners, something men have been doing for centuries, and they've been given flattering names like "stud" or "Casanova." Birth control made it possible for women to enjoy sex in the same way and to the same degree. That does not make them "tramps" or "whores." It makes them sexually emancipated. It takes TWO people to connect that way and BOTH are responsible for whatever happens. It is seriously wrong to call one of them a "whore" and the other a "stud." I do think, though, that since Samantha knew Charlotte wasn't having sex, she shouldn't have talked about her own fabulous sex life in front of her, because it only drove it home to Charlotte how much she was missing, and made her feel worse. It's the old expression, "Don't count your money in front of the poor." She also should not have excluded Miranda and Carrie from Samba because they did nothing wrong!
samantha is def right, but in all fairness, I am also not a fan of constantly talking about sex - it's a fun talking point for sure, but if its all you have to offer in a conversation then you probably aren't as interesting or fun to talk to as you think lol
Some people consider sex as something special and sacred and thats ok. Some people think sex is a fun hobby and thats ok too. Why do people think their opinions and way of living is the "right" one?? And why do they feel the need to judge others
I love Charlotte, but hated her in this episode...i don't know who told her that she's so superior to Samantha that she has a right to judge Samantha like that....sex can be great with someone you love, or just with someone that you have great chemistry with
Honestly that always bothered me too, but the difference between her and Samantha was Charlotte kept it private (which tbh is most likely a smarter thing to do), and Samantha was more public with it. But it was hypocritical. All these women in this show are hypocrites to some degree tho.
Okay, scenes aside I think we all should take our hats off for how well Kristin and Kim played their roles in this scene. Actually, the 4 of them were amazing, very very realistic.
They made up by the end of the episode, Charlotte realized she was being uptight and taking her frustrations out on the wrong person. Samantha learned that people could be too much sexually and found even she had a little bit of Charlotte in her.
Charlotte was 100% in the wrong here. At several times Samantha tried to hold back and just look at her menu. All she was was "because I can" and that should have been the end of it.
The thing is, Charlotte was probably the most "promiscuous" one after Samantha, especially in the earlier seasons and many of them were one night stands
Samantha is GOAT, hands down the best character in SATC. Unapologetic, non-judgmental, always supportive, knowing what she wants. She deserved better friends and more screen time.
I've seen this scene on tiktok and it's so unfair to read the comments about Charlotte here. She was sexually frustrated and took it out on Sam, but later on she realised she was wrong in a very well-put scene. She called Sam in the end of the episode after she slept with Trey too. They had a fight, sure, but it's not bad at all, it's a great set up. Not to mention, yes, the two of them are opposites but they match well. Mostly for a reason that Charlotte is freaky too, just not openly lol
Sam and Char always been had underlying issues. Char doesn’t approve of some of Sams personality traits based on her more “Traditional” values. It’s strictly surfaced issues. We as friends sometimes need to accept our friends even if we have different views on love , sex, marriage and children. They’ve managed to get to that place every time. Even if they argue about it first. ❤
charlotte didn't love all of those men she slept with either... just because she liked them and dated them, doesn't mean she loved them. she's so judgemental and hypocritical. samantha never agreed with her beliefs but she never criticized/judged her like charlotte always did.
Charlotte is just about as “slutty” (since that’s obviously what she was about to say here) as Samantha is but just because Samantha is frank about it, Charlotte thinks she has the right to shame her.
I agree with Charlottes view on sex and morality. However, Charlotte has no right to force her opinions unto others. Samantha is clearly the opposite of Charlotte. Respect the differences. Don't preach. Otherwise goodbye friendship. And Samba too!
I don’t think this scene is necessarily just Charlotte being jealous of Samantha. It can get pretty tiresome listening to that friend who always brags about all the casual sex they have. Especially if you’re someone who believes sex should be something more than that.
I know it was Charlotte’s frustration talking, mostly, but she was so out of line to almost call her a slut. She just sat here slut shaming though she’s done similar stuff. Samantha stopped talking and looked at the menu and Charlotte kept going on.
There are times like this one these three hypocrites doesn't deserve Samantha as a friend and i can understand why she cut all ties as it was revealed in the first episode of Just Like That.
I love at the end of the episode where Sam finds out that she is more like Charlotte than she thought lol. I love their friendship because they are such opposites.
It's jealousy! Charolette tried to do everything "culturally correct" but isn't being "touched". Charolette wants to be "touched" out of justification. Meanwhile here's Samantha, breaking all the rules and is being rewarded. It was a sore spot when Samantha said she 😉 6 times. I feel bad for Charolette...
The way Carrie and Miranda were quiet when Charlotte was being judged and mean to Samantha always bugged me. Like speak up girlies - I’d have uninvited them as well
To this day I still don't know how Samantha and Charlotte were in the same friend group. lol Probably because they were both friends with Carrie. I know Samantha was there for Charlotte here and there but I can never imagine them hanging out without the other two. lol
Her attitude. She's unapologetic, she's not ashamed, and she openly talks about it. You're not supposed to do any of that, even today. 🤣 That's why she's an icon. Tells it as it is.
