For a long time we had discussions around renaming, but for non-technical users having an icon just called "internet" was more understandable. So in the end we just stuck with it. I guess it's the legacy of IE that made the Web and the Internet interchangeable in the eyes of many.
2 mins in, "we have a lot of users" Well yeah, given its preinstalled in all samsung devices, unable to be uninstalled (only disabled) and set by default in most Samsung devices
I won’t be testing for Samsung Internet. We have web standards. If it doesn’t work for your browser but works in Safari, Chrome, Firefox. You have other issues. Just because Samsung wants their own browser shouldn’t mean more work for me. Web is so fractured. We need to program for a standard. Not 80 different browsers.
@@Manish-fm5iv It only hurts users. In the end the fault is at browser vendors that expect everyone to jump on their bandwagon. People don't want to write browser and OS-specific code, because that is how the web ends up being broken for users and we are back at the early 2000s era of browsing (only works on IE).
Especially in a world where chromium exists and Samsung is based off of it… Even Android manufacturers were able to kindof agree on much less standardised features. When I make an Android app, it usually lays out the same between a Pixel, a OnePlus, a Samsung, a Xiaomi etc. And most device API’s stay the same as well (GPS, network, camera, notifications ). The only places where I see discrepancies is things like battery management where you have to have device specific optimisations.
I mean, I've tried, a bunch of times... 😂 Please have a look at the webmasters stackexchange question titled "Recent Samsung Internet browser update is blocking cookies for log in and add to basket on my site" - thank you!
Can you tell a bit more about signing an apk for the installed PWA? What are the benefits of that, is there an specific option in the manifest to enable it?
@@saintpyo better integration into the OS mainly, such as an icon on the app screen. It's not a manifest feature if browsers can do it they will. If they can't they won't.
Samsung DEX is amazing, I found it using more and more. One obstacle I identified why I didn't use it before is the availability of USB-C connector for my display. Once I exposed such cable with keyboard / mouse hooked into the monitor. It started to be one of my many main devices that I plug in from time to time and work on them.
i totally get making samsung's browser work with samsung level hardware APIs and adding cool features like extensions but why mess with how the page is laid out and differ from stock android chrome?
We struggle with Samsung Internet's Dark Mode. Currently, the prefers-color-scheme attribute is not supported on Samsung Internet. Samsung Internet picks and chooses its own colors for Dark Mode which can fail accessibility requirements or take away from the UI experience. Would you be able to provide some pointers on developing for dark mode?
100% this. We use a TWA on Android and have to explicitly open into chrome over Samsung internet mainly due to dark mode ruining our existing dark color scheme. I get where the browser devs are coming from but I'd love to opt out!
@@Yougi Dammit, they change the options. Before this, IIRC, force night mode is experimental but right now it's the default option. They hide "Use website dark theme" under Settings > Internet Labs. My sites respect prefers-color-scheme anyway ;)
The alternate dark mode makes me go crazy sometimes because our customers have it activated and then ask why it looks wrong haha Apart from that: I never had a negative experience with it
I can see a lot of hate for Samsung internet but around chrome 80/90 I hated the changes they made to tab management. Tried Edge, Samsung some new names but ultimately switched to Firefox. I like the customization they provided for tabs and extensions. Also can move the address bar to the bottom, love it! However, they are playing catch up with some obvious features around password management and credit card storage. Ada Rose Canon is spot on about browsers strongly differentiating themselves we can't let Chrome dictate the user experience and from my exploration to find an alternative I found some really cool features like Edge can send/open links from phone to desktop and vice versa.
Standard: This is what you do and that's what you will get. Developer: Ah, good to know. Thanks! Samsung: Yeah, but what if we... Internet Explorer: Don't. Samsung: But, but if I... Edge: Just listen to him, bro! Samsung: Who are you? Internet Explorer? Hello?
I'd install it but I'm afraid I blacklisted Samsung when they released an update to inject adverts in my TV's UI. I'll just assume it's ok in Samsung and carry on testing in Firefox, Chrome and Safari.
Samsung Internet works where Chrome won't - where there's no GMS. Chrome is needlessly reliant on GMS, imo. IINM, Chrome on iOS is more than just a shell - yes, it has to use the OS's webkit engine so it's the same as everything else, but there's more to a browser than the rendering engine. Calling iOS/Chrome just a 'shell' is a little harsh, imo.
Ada: Actually until ver 8 Samsung Internet was for Samsung alone. Jake: Oh right, I remember it coming out, but I couldn't install. Me: Jake really you tried to install Sam's Internet? On your device? :)
I'm using I'm using Samsung's browser but every time I open it up to appear on my screen one is jet black and the other one is all white why do I have two every time I press one
I certainly have some experience with Samsung Internet and it's negative. Despite being Chromium, I faced a bug where Date.toLocaleString() didn't return a proper localized string in Samsung Internet, so I had to implement my own date localizer :/ Why did you touch that API? Why do you need to touch these APIs? Samsung Internet is the last browser I'm expecting such incompatibilities from so I'm not testing on it usually.
I think localization data isn't considered part of the API itself and so often isn't included, with the rationale presumably being that there's too much of it, and hence it usually doesn't make sense to take up space on every user's device with e.g. how to format dates using the traditional Thai lunar calendar. Even in the most vanilla version of latest Chrome on Windows 11, different subsets of that data may be included depending on the user's language settings. It's a tricky problem for sure, and difficult to test for.
@@lionelrowe617 I absolutely understand that, but that's still not the behavior I expect from a Chromium browser. If Samsung Internet tries to save space this way, on Android, it's possible to download language-related code on-demand when the user changes system settings. That would work better, instead of stripping the API down in an unexpected fashion.
@@RickBeacham That's literally the same as reimplementing it by yourself, but also dragging a huge library into your project with lots of features you yourself don't need. Besides, toLocaleString would be really great for UX, since it promises to use user's preferred date format the user is used to (e.g. European dates vs American, 12 or 24 hour time) The main problem here is that the API exists, but Samsung Internet, despite being a Chromium browser I don't expect incompatibilities from, interferes with that API, and there's a high probability I won't notice that, since I expect Samsung Internet to be absolutely compatible with Chromium, and I see no good reason to interfere with the API.
In this instance the inability to generate WebAPK's in particular is caused by Google though. I want Firefox to be able to create WebAPKs, and there's just no way to do that.
What is the difference between chrome and Samsung internet? My phone comes with the default browser Chrome, Why do I need to install the Samsung internet?
Any true WEBKIT browsers on Android? Opera? Curious why Playstation and Nintendo use webkit instead of Chromium or Firefox? I assume Google and Samsung are business partners in a way? Did Pixel 6* use Samsung hardware and microprocessors?
No offence. but I feel this kind of non web stuff. Feels like this is off topic from what HTTP203 I have known for. Sad to say this but had to share this feedback.
Hello, I am on the point of thinking to switch to a Samsung Ecosystem. I own a Galaxy S22 Ultra and a Chromebook HP x360 14c. However, I am leaning towards Galaxy ecosystem over the Google Ecosystem coz I think it works better. What worries me is that Samsung Dex might not be sufficient to use as my main computer. I am thinking of switching my Chromebook to a Galaxy Tab S8. Any thoughts?
I haven't tried the tab, but personally I found the chromebook's experience on the Google's suite of apps to be better than Dex on Samsung Internet via my phone (an old one tho: Note 9)
With the Google ecosystem, you are not locked on Android like Samsung. If you decide to go iOS, you can use Chrome, Google Photos, Drive... But not Samsung apps.
