Each Costco will do their own open box sale. In my state it varied from store to store. The one closest to me was the best for getting the open box for electronics. But the one a few cities over was good for other items. Lawn and garden for example
Just got mine today. The review is 100% spot on. Super happy. If you're looking to buy the best without paying flagship tax, this is it. Abby is fantastic!
I've seen it in a store for a combined 2 hours. Probably the best value for money when you want a new high end tv. So much cheaper than the S95C, the G3 and the A95L. And the picture is still so good.
Just had the 55” model installed on the wall today. WOW. My wife who never seems to be impressed couldn’t believe the picture. We watched Tomorrowland a few days ago and then tonight. She said it was like being there. Pretty good endorsement.
@markholle3450 How did you deal with the wires ? I really want to buy and mount it on the wall but I heard ppl have issues with One Connect and the wires sticking out are unslightly so am not sure what to do
@@DoubleTheB We put a plug behind the mount and wired it power above our fireplace. We also ran an HDMI cable from the TV through the plug to a female HDMI port on the wall. This allows my Grandson to plug in his Switch dock without anyone seeing any cords.
@@rss1761 yeah I bought the s90c few days ago and went for that haha , not gonna fool around with one connect and wall installations or have cords hanging on the wall ... One connect might be a good solution for someone who wants to just watch stuff but I want a performing tv to game on aswell etc. and I see it as another potential problem I do not want to deal with , cheers !
Abby is amazing! =) Q: It wasn't mentioned during "Inputs", but is the power cable detachable or is it hardwired (and is this something that can vary from region to region)?
If you buy this TV, make sure to TURN OFF PICTURE OPTIMIZATION. It shifts the whole screen unreasonably blue and gives you just two picture modes "Eye comfort" and "optimized" both are very blue. This setting is not under picture but under General & Privacy -> intelligent Mode Settings. You can't change it on Tizen you have to switch inputs. Then go to Picture and change to Warm 2, full brightness and contrast, and do minimum sharpness... Click apply to all inputs.... And do this for every picture setting.... This will also change Tizen.... I almost returned this thing until I figured this out.
I was looking at the s90c and the LG C3. I read about problems with the S90C having problems the screen not being straight. So I checked out the S90C in John Lewis (UK) and yes, it had a distinct kink 3 quarters along the screen! So I've chosen the C3. The quality issues that samsung seem to have along with their poor history of firmware updates was too much of a negative, especially as little to chose between them
@@swissbliss24 logical get the c3. Why would you want a oled that’s bent and has motion issues which also Samsung nerfs their TVs months after release to make their next look better. Read up on s90c it’s not as great as you think
Having owned the previous years S95B and we’re impressed I have the S90C on the way due to a 2 year old managing to break the panel and the insurance matched this one like for like
Samsung TV's come with the most brain-damaged remotes ever, in this case, the "SolarCell Remote", which you can recharge with sunlight. No problem there, it's the senseless way the remote functions that makes it so bad. This remote sporatically FAILS to connect with your TV and forces you to hold down two buttons on it to pair with the TV via Bluetooth. That may not sound too bad, but think about it. If the remote can pick up Bluetooth pairing signals from the TV, then why doesn't it just go ahead and automatically connect with it??? Why, Samsung, do you force us to fuss with this pointless Bluetooth pairing ritual? Beyond that, the remote is useless for practically anything other than direct access to the TV's built-in online subscription streams. It doesn't even have a button to choose between input sources, you have to use an annoying on-screen selection for that most basic function. Likewise for image quality options, which are clumsy and overloaded with eye-watering automatic settings that make movies look like soap operas. Samsung is so determined to ruin your image, the TV will without warning decide to "readjust your settings to optimize display quality", and reset itself back to its most garish store-demo settings. These TV's are ideal for those who don't really care how over-processed it looks or have the patience to deal with persistent customer abuse.
For the 77" you should definitely get the s89c, as it's an incredible value. I hated mine for a solid month. It's not great out of the box and I really struggled getting picture settings that I liked. But eventually, it clicked, and I love it now. There are specific situations where the motion isn't the best, but overall, it's a great tv for the price. Most people complaining about consistent lousy upscaling and motion probably don't even own the tv.
After dropping $200 overnight, the 65" is available in Canada for $1999.99. Even the 65S92C, with the improved sound, is at that price. It appears to be an all-time low. The LG C3 took a similar $200 CAD reduction dropping from $2400 to $2200 CAD.
what about Samsungs software? is it just a wide spread rumor they have terrible software and updates? otherwise i loved the review and it sounds like my dream tv!
Can I cast RU-vid, Prime Video, Netflix... with the Cast Icon from my Android Smartphone to the S90C? I wasn't sure about that due to the fact that it hasn't Chromecast built-in. I'm currently using an old LCD TV with a Chromecast Dongle and like the Cast functionallity very much. 😊
You say hesitant but if you knew what DV actually does compared to regular HDR, then you would know it makes pretty much ZERO difference on high end TV's over regular HDR
I noticed you don’t mention 5:5 pulldown, my 90C have a major issue with it. Between panning shots it would micro freeze the image. Especially in EU regions where cable TV is 50Hz!!! There is no way to do inverse pulldown 3:2! Cause you cannot bring back 50 fps from 60fps! This caused major problem for me!😢 The issue is negated only by enabling de judder to 2-4 clicks or disabling picture clarity completely or running AppleTV or Google TV in a Game Mode (for USA you would just ran ATV or GTV in match frame rate off in any mode as it would do reverse pull down correctly). I settled to run more de judder for sports 4 clicks and for shows 2 clicks as I don’t notice soap opera effect. But for other people who are more sensitive to this effect this would be a major issue. Hopefully with next review this would be also mentioned from here on forward ❤ It would be lovely if ratings actually could communicate this issue to Samsung about last year models, so they could actually address it 🙏
When it comes to fine tuning, I recently used the SmartThings Smart Calibration tool on my QN90B with my Galaxy S10e. Holy crap what a difference! Colours are balanced, whites look white, and blacks have separation. Skin tones look realistic, and no more yellowish tinge on cheek and forehead highlights. SDR is defaulted to 150 nits, but I found it a bit dim still, so I bumped it to 200 nits. It's perfect... I can still see details in dim scenes. It also does HDR now. It looks absolutely fantastic! I wish I did this a year ago.
Samsung TV has the worst reliability and quality control out of the top display manufacturers, buy at your own risk. No I'm not making this up, just ask repair techs or go to owner forums and look how many failures and repairs were happening last gen. Sony or LG is a better choice.
I don’t understand something. Everyone says the S90C is a QDOLED. Everyone, that is, except Samsung. And their website is not shy about shoving the QD aspect of the S95C in everyone’s faces. So what’s the deal with the S90C?
Witness the difference detail can make, with fine-tuned brightness and optimized contrast made possible by self-illuminating pixels with Quantum HDR OLED These are written on the Samsung website for S90C. I guess you don't know where to look.
I really don’t like Samsung OS and worried about the black screen issues. Also I hear blacks are more dark gray than black vs WOLED. Would you say the G3 is a better buy or save the 1300$ or so and just get a S90C? I would love to know what you recommend Abby, as I’m looking to buy in the next couple weeks. Also this is to upgrade my LG C1 which still looks amazing I also own the A80J and A90J.
I got my 77 s90c a few weeks back, I don’t know if I got lucky with the panel but the windows HDR calibration tool sets me to about 1590 nits until I can see the pattern disappear, also, on the ps5 calibration tool I have to go up 19 clicks until the sun disappears, aren’t those measurements above average for this tv model?
I only watch TV through streaming apps - Netflix, Disney+, Prime, NowTV. Should I be concerned about the comments on it not being good with these streaming apps?
@@TheShicksinator thanks. I already have one. I didn't realise it made a difference of the TV's ability to resolve low quality (1080p) content. Just ordered LG C4 in sale. I went to John Lewis store and preferred all the LG OLED's to Samsung. Glad I went. I nearly purchased a TV blind based on reviews.
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Been reading and people have been saying atmos is not supported without a soundbar. But when I watch movies that say they have atmos on Netflix or iTunes through my Apple TV without a soundbar, it shows on the tv that the audio is atmos. Clarification would be awesome, thanks
I have to report on quality issues with my 77" s90c. The screen didn't turn on but the sound was playing after 3 months of use. It took Samsung 5 weeks to repair and it seems they replaced the LCD panel. After that I looked up on the internet and seems this issue is pretty widespread.
This TV's low-quality content smoothing is only alright (we rated it a 6.8.) It can't smooth out macro blocking very well, so it's very noticeable in dark scenes but fine details are still preserved very well!
I bought a Samsung S89C and wow am I having lots of stutter issue. Especially while watching hockey, feels like people jolt every so often, is that normal?
I Will nerver get a TV were almost all examples are bent. Yes, bent display. The displays thin construction is awful. Doesn’t matter how good the picture is, I will never buy it. LG G3 got the best construction.
Hi Abby. You mentioned in your review the automatic brightness limiter. Does the limiter kick on only in certain situations? How does the algorithm work?
The Automatic Brightness Limiter significantly dims bright highlights when they take up a large portion of the screen. So scenes with a lot of bright areas, like a bright sunny day at the beach or sports like hockey, are significantly dimmer on this TV than they are on a non-OLED panel!
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The S90CD (Costco/Sam's Club) offers the same features, picture quality, and processing capabilities but has more powerful speakers (60W vs. 40W on the S90C) and a longer warranty.
I wish you would have talked more about motion processing. I own the S90C and it's a phenomenal TV in virtually every way but it has far worse motion processing than my friends old LG CX. Basically for those sensitive to motion the combination of OLED's instant response and this TV's mediocre processing can make some shows and movies unbearable to watch, even with the optional motion interpolation. I had hoped I could get used to it but this problem is basically forcing me to get an LG C3 as the G3 is simply out of my budget.
@@peterfredriksson834 Thanks but I already own an Apple TV 4K 3rd gen and this does not resolve the issue. I have tried with both match frame rate on and off as well as all different changes to motion interpolation. For some 24fps content the TV is fine but especially content with constant motion (like shows filmed with handheld cameras) it's nearly unwatchable with the constant stuttering even with de-judder raised as high as one can go without introducing SOE. Motion is a very personal setting so it's not going to be the same for everyone. My partner cannot tell the difference between his CX and my S90C when it comes to motion however it's very clear to me that with some content there is no setting that makes motion okay for me on my S90C whereas on his TV I can generally always find something that makes me happy with the very same content.
@@zachrhonheimer2787 Have you set judder and blur to 0? Yeah maybe you’re right about sensitive but a prefer so much watch hdr movies or play games over my lg.
Same for me. I dont like Samsung but I know this TV Is just better than C3, so I was thinking about getting it but that processing just Killer it for me. Also I get that Samsung panel is better but the colors just look a little bit too much saturated for my liking.
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Love what you guys do. I buy all of my tvs based on reviews from your website and/or videos. Bought the 77” S90c a few months back and couldn’t be happier with it. Great job and keep up the good work!
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I got disappointed by LG, you spend 1-3k eur on 65 inch oled and it lasts between 3-5 yrs. Have a 2 yrs warranty and mine went into problems in 3rd year already with white line in middle of the screen. Many people reported same known issue, well rip money. This is why I’m exploring samsung as alternative. Does not have same issues.
I got disappointed by LG, you spend 1-3k eur on 65 inch oled and it lasts between 3-5 yrs. Have a 2 yrs warranty and mine went into problems in 3rd year already with white line in middle of the screen. Many people reported same known issue, well rip money. This is why I’m exploring samsung as alternative. Does not have same issues.
Last year I bought a Samsung S95B at a sale. It looks very similar. And I'm wandering if the S90C is just a rebranded S95B from the precious year. Or is there a difference?
It can be. S95B uses a first gen panel and early on there was a panel lottery as to whether or not you got a 1st or 2nd gen panel with the S90C. The 2nd gen panels are brighter and more resistant to burn in.
@@nerdstrangler4804Is version FB03 model a 2nd gen panel? How can I tell whether it's using 1st gen or 2nd gen without entering service menu please answer I'm going to buy s90c in 2 weeks 🙏🙏
Going to pull the trigger on the 65" tomorrow. Buying direct from Samsung with military discount I can get it for 1,439 with a 2 year Samsung care plus for free. At that price point it just seems like a no Brainer even with the couple small negatives. The other tvs I was considering were c3 at 1600 and a75l at 1500. Coming from like a 4 year old vizio m series nothing special qled I'm hoping this will be as big of an upgrade as I think it will be lol. Side note: the s90c I looked at on display in best buy had insane burn in. You could clearly see Amazon prime logo and the word Cinderella 😂😂.
@@Broxtyhell yeah dude, the TV is a beast. Not regretting my decision one bit haha. High quality 4k hdr looks rediculous and I game alot too and I'm loving that. How about you?
Grabbed my first ever OLED last week because of this review. It's certainly a very hefty purchase, but coming from my trusty Philips PUG6654 (Which is a wonderful TV for a LED one) it should be quite a revelation.
Absolutely loved mine, except for the Samsung's horrid Samsung TV Plus opening by itself all the time when turning it on, thankfully it's possible to turn off
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I wonder if it will ever get to the point where Samsung give in and start supporting Dolby Vision. I think it's clear that Dolby Vision is fast becoming the most widely supported HDR format behind HDR10 and Samsung are the sole TV makers not supporting it. I was in the market for a high end TV and didn't even add Samsung to the list due to no Dolby Vision support. I also think that those searching in the high end TV market will be looking for things like that and may overlook Samsung for the same reason I did. I know HDR10+ is their baby but I think they need to swallow their pride and start offering consumers the choice. It only works in their favour if they add Dolby Vision to their list of features.
@@trewright1482 After standard HDR10, Dolby Vision is the most widely supported HDR format. Pretty much all of the streaming services have started offering content in Dolby Vision. At the time of making this comment, I don’t believe any support HDR10+ (at least not in my region anyway). 4K blu rays, while still mostly only offering standard HDR10, are also starting to support Dolby Vision. Very few support HDR10+. If you watch any content offered in Dolby Vision on a Samsung TV is it ‘downscaled’ to standard HDR10. That might not mean much to the ‘average viewer’ but if you’re a movie enthusiast who’s spent a lot of money on a high end Samsung OLED then not having Dolby Vision support could be seen as a drawback. They are now the only major TV brand that doesn’t support the second most widely supported premium HDR format behind the standard HDR10.
@@trewright1482 After the base HDR10 HDR format, Dolby Vision is the most widely supported premium HDR format. Most of the streaming services support it over HDR10+ and 4K blu rays are also starting to support Dolby Vision more. The average consumer may not care so much but if you’re a movie enthusiast looking to buy a high end TV then the lack of Dolby Vision support could be a deal breaker, especially when it’s becoming more widely adopted.
144 hz 4k is the best gaming monitor, better than the best gaming monitor you can think of in every respect, if your goal is only movies, c3 can be taken for dolby atmos support
Hello .. I have purchased s90c and struggling to make the videos full screen. The picture settings have been greyd out and I am unable to zoom. Is there any way to make the videos full screen. I have watching the movies cropped... please help.
The S90C is basically a S95B on steroids as they both share the same exact panel. So yeah expect a gen 1 panel in most cases expect from the 77 inches model which comes with a guaranteed gen 2 panel, but there's literally no noticeable difference if you compare them side by side. Yes gen 2 panels are hypothetically a bit more resilient when it comes to burn in and they can also go a bit more bright but is that really so Important in real life?? I don't really think so especially if you have an extended warranty which is the only necessary tweak when it comes to tvs like that and trust me it's no joke unless you have unlimited access to infinite money.
Don’t even think twice. I just bought this for gaming on my pS5. I am coming from a Hisense u7k which was great. This has completely changed my gaming experience. If you play GOW Ragnarok with this you will be blown away. It did so amazing. I am broke but so happy with this purchase.
Just a question please anyone I ordered this tv for delivery but can anyone please tell me…. Is the power cable captive to the tv or does it plug into the tv? And lastly How long is the cable if it IS captive to the tv please?? Im just mapping out the wall for cable holes Thank you so much for your help people Cheers 👍🏻
The only problem I see with this TV is that the coating it has it's terrible for durability, if you pass your finger through it you take it out, that simple. It shouldn't be that way and you should be allowed to even clean it without taking out the coating. Luckily I still didn't clean it but those small finger prints still stay.
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This is my first time buying a nice TV. I play video games on the most recent Xbox and watch sports. Is the s90c good for both? I hate watching TVs and there is a lag behind the ball and want to make sure that’s not an issue before purchasing. Thank you!
Great review, but watching this really makes me wonder why it wasn't included in the longevity tests? Does it have any issues implementing the short compensation cycles at the correct intervals like the S95C did?
Why i don't see info about the samsung s89c or this s90c is just the same as s89c i just get this tv because for the good review bit i don't see many videos about this tv.
