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Sansui A80 Amplifier Repairs (Ep. 182) 

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Typical sellout Sansui from the 1980's

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@misnerll
@misnerll Год назад
Back in the day, Sansui was known for their dodgy power designs. They even got called out for the chassis being hot on one of their amps not being separated from mains by Stereo Review, I think. A little trick I use when replacing lamps with LED's is to put 2 of them head to toe with an appropriate dropping resistor when supplied be an AC tap off the xformer. Haven't seen too much in repairing Sansui's. Really enjoyed your video.
@TurntableGuy
@TurntableGuy Год назад
I used to own one of these. The el-cheapo build quality (plastic sides, cardboard bottom) was evident in the amount of stray noise and buzz. But, they looked nice and sounded pretty good. The slots in the sides was for a Sansui-specific stereo cabinet where the components slid into.
@alex1520
@alex1520 Год назад
Makes sense why the filter caps were poo.... Right up against the heatsink almost and if that thing has the tendency to run hot easily, there goes your capacitor life (looked pretty crowded in the area where the main filter caps are, limiting the ventilation some what too)
@SergZak2023
@SergZak2023 Год назад
Great content as always...Thank you, Trevor. Cheers!
@generalingwer4341
@generalingwer4341 10 месяцев назад
Strangely the a-80 is one ive never gotten.generally there hard to get for a great price.the blacks are less common than silvers mostly.i collect sansui.the a-40 is so bare bones its nearly not a amplifier.lol.the a-80 improves upon by adding a op amp servo loop from output for feedback.i love the big eighties look to them.not a fan of hardboard bottom with shielding tape and plastic sides though.after several years of rebuilding them my personal favorite is the au-d5 or d7 do to its high slew rate and build quality.nice video.
@neverknowit11
@neverknowit11 Год назад
Sansui never used Audio Grade output capacitors because of cost. Probably recommended if the customer cares about the quality and reliability.
@CharlieParkour
@CharlieParkour Год назад
Awesome. That was fun to watch. Can’t wait for the au-517
@TrevorsBench
@TrevorsBench Год назад
Editing the video right now for next Friday's release, stay tuned
@EJBert
@EJBert Год назад
Even back in the day Sansui didn't have a great reputation but was considered a cheaper brand. I avoided their products but your analysis now justifies my gut instincts. I have an old Rotel RX-402 and Pioneer SX-6 running still from that era with little maintenance save a vacuuming or two. That said, the Rotel volume switch does need the contacts cleaned. Besides running this ancient gear I now have a Yamaha running a full Polk Audio array of speakers for my home theater setup. Nice content and I'm subscribed to your channel.
@ian-c.01
@ian-c.01 10 месяцев назад
The 'Loudness' control was to make up for the fact that at lower volume the tone would drop out and sound too flat. You could turn down the volume and turn up the loudness and still get a reasonably full sound without having to fiddle with the tone controls, the downside was that at higher volume it would add distortion or 'over saturate' the speakers so you had to turn off the loudness. Not everyone used them unless they were forced to listen at low levels all the time.
@charlessmyth
@charlessmyth Год назад
Clean unit. Pots a bit dirty. On sensible loads and on music, it's probably okay for heat.
@zambrano966
@zambrano966 Год назад
Si amigo, he reparado los tres, el A-40 el A-60 y el A-80 y son bonitos en apariencia, pero Sansui tiene otros amplificadores mucho mejor que estos, no se escuchan mal, pero lo que usted dice es verdad, ese A-80 para dar la potencia que da, ese disipador es muy pequeño y para sumar mas problemas es para ambos canales, pero a su favor es que son bastantes económicos, nada que ver con la serie AU de Sansui, por compararlo con un AU- 519 la diferencia es abrumadora tanto en sonido como en construcción.
@TrevorsBench
@TrevorsBench Год назад
I agree, they are less than serious with their design, Thank you
@alexismethenitis
@alexismethenitis Год назад
Thanks for another interesting video!
@rotaxtwin
@rotaxtwin Год назад
The power switch is a little disappointing as you say. Seems like some cost cutting here and there, but i enjoyed diving into it with you.
@Poppinwheeeeellllllieeeeez
@Poppinwheeeeellllllieeeeez Год назад
Dark days of Sansui.....san'-poopy
@scrappy7571
@scrappy7571 Год назад
80's were not kind for Sansui, sure did fall from greatness.
@robertdavis5714
@robertdavis5714 Год назад
Hey Trevor, Enjoyed all 39 minutes. That Power switch is scary, no other word to describe it. When Sansui went hybrid in early 1980's, the downward spiral began, Ill take a AU 717. Very interesting with correct BIAS and idle current. That Red indicator LED light looked better with your modification.
@gordthor5351
@gordthor5351 Год назад
Also, a higher bias current will have less crossover distortion. Class A amps are fully biased on and they have zero crossover distortion. Like most things in audio, it's a trade off. Do you prefer a little better sound quality, or do you prefer a cooler amp? My mono blocks are biased to 25 watts of pure class A and eat up 300 watts idling (each), but I only listen to music about 3 hr/week. For me it's worth a few more cents/week to have better sound.
@paulb4661
@paulb4661 Год назад
There's no evidence of crossover distortion in class AB amplifiers either, which accounts for 99% of those in existence.
@gordthor5351
@gordthor5351 Год назад
@@paulb4661 Nonsense. You think transistors can turn on and off seamlessly and quickly enough, to avoid crossover distortion? It's not going to happen. There is a time lag for transistors to ramp up, thus during switching duty between the positive and negative waveform, A/B amps WILL be susceptible to crossover distortion. The higher the bias current, the less distortion. 99% of A/B amps have piss all for bias current, thus will have considerable crossover distortion. Class B amps aren't even suitable for audio due to the plethora of crossover distortion they make when each transistor turns fully off between the negative half and positive half of the waveform. At 20kHz transistors are switching back and forth 20,000 times/sec. Only class A amps have both transistors fully on at all times, thus have zero crossover distortion. It's called crossover distortion because it happens at the dead spot between the positive and negative swings, when transistors need time to ramp up to full speed. Only class A amps don't have this problem because the receiving transistor at the crossover point is running at full speed. To use a relay race as an analogy: Class B amp Runners would stop and pass the baton. Class A/B amp The baton would be passed off at a walk or a jog (according to the level of bias current). Class A amp The runners would be sprinting side by side and passing the baton back and forth seamlessly without any lag time.
@paulb4661
@paulb4661 Год назад
@@gordthor5351 What do you mean both transistors on at all times? Since when does canonical interpretation of class A duty involve more than a single device? Fundamentally different in terms of characteristics, NPN/PNP or P/N channel devices handle respective halves of the precious signal? Or is it a quasi-complementary?
@silviudanutstoican394
@silviudanutstoican394 7 месяцев назад
Hello i need a little help to repair this amplifier, i have one this but have problem with output thankyou
@silviudanutstoican394
@silviudanutstoican394 6 месяцев назад
Hello mister! I want to know how names the final tranzistors ,i have one this amplifier and i think the final tranzistors are not the original, please tell me if you want how names the final tranzistors.thank you
@TrevorsBench
@TrevorsBench 6 месяцев назад
The service manual lists 2SA1104 and 2SC2579 but those may have later been upgraded to 2SA1105 and 2SC2580
@silviudanutstoican394
@silviudanutstoican394 6 месяцев назад
@@TrevorsBench thank you mister 🫡
@charlessmyth
@charlessmyth Год назад
[9:50] It'll give the LF response of your headphones or speakers a good workout :-)
@neverknowit11
@neverknowit11 Год назад
Was Sansui a name used by Sharp Electronics of Japan?
@overbuiltautomotive1299
@overbuiltautomotive1299 Год назад
no
@AmriNasti21
@AmriNasti21 Год назад
i have this A80, can this A80 play 4ohm speaker?
@TrevorsBench
@TrevorsBench Год назад
If you like to push the amplifier I would not run 4 ohms. The design is lacking in cooling and efficiency so it will run hot if you ask it to do a little work. On my test, the heatsink got quite hot in 90 seconds at 8 ohm load. I'd expect a 4 ohm load to be worse. If you like your music quiet then go for it.
@AmriNasti21
@AmriNasti21 Год назад
@@TrevorsBench my listening volume is only 1-2 volume level, sometimes i used mute and go for 4-5 volume level. is that pushing the amplifier?
@TrevorsBench
@TrevorsBench Год назад
@@AmriNasti21 No, you should be fine
@AmriNasti21
@AmriNasti21 Год назад
@@TrevorsBench thank you for your response 😁👍
@steven6692
@steven6692 6 месяцев назад
​@TrevorsBench hi Trevor! What's your opinion on having a usb fan hooked up to the switched ac outlet. That's how I have my set up , but somewhere in in the past I heard someone said that it was wrong to do it...? Imo, that's almost equal to having the lid off the amp, and just letting my air conditioner do the cooling. I'm a sub. and your opinion rules.
@johnsenchak1428
@johnsenchak1428 Год назад
Reported for playing the Cars
@northstar5405
@northstar5405 Год назад
I like to see you show us how to replace B&O Beocord 4500 belt. Ty
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