Sanwa M17 vs FkySky Noble NB4 

It's tough to beat a Noble for the price

@@mcleanrc1751 it shows that Sanwa and futaba are over priced. The noble has far better materials than it’s price would lead to believe. I was a die hard m17 user too.

Same here I love my 4

@@mcleanrc1751 Same bro got rid of my Futaba for the Noble never going back, So easy to teach people how to use it and feature packed all for the price.#NOBLEFORTHEWIN

What happens when the battery’s die for good on the noble. can you get replaced in the years to come?

Thanks Greg

I am considering this radio to update from my Spektrum DX3R, I read about this throttle delay issue. I thought to myself that dialing in POSITIVE expo on the throttle channel (at least the go side) would even further minimize the delay reported by others?

You can get it for 250.00$ right now with the receiver . I just bought one brand new ! The Radio link just want to say be aware yes it has a ton of new features yes it is a amazing deal still has over a half mile radius easily ! BUT it is still on that same ole receiver as every model prior meaning latency and movement speed is (IDENTICAL) to prior models . Regardless I bought it because well it's 250 fucking bucks 😂. Anywho just thought you might care m8 all the best to you .

Agreed. I really enjoyed my Noble while I have it but now that I'm comfortable with the M17, I'll never go back

@@mcleanrc1751 on saying that just ordered the nb4, some fast guys are using it at my local so can't be bad lol

@@ayske1 It's a great radio for the money. I was super happy with it. Just always wondered if the M17 would be better. The difference is noticeable but very minor

Thanks Stefan. If I pull the Nobles out of storage, I'll have to check that out

Their latest firmware fixed the deadband issue.

and what about club racing?...ok you may say it's still competitive racing but let's say competitive but not like world finals or something like this.

@@ripmax333 its my personal favorite remote but theres always gunna be one or two try hards with theyre $600 sanwas for low latency lmao, i use my noble for my 4ws comp crawler, my 4ws 1/24 monster truck, I even use it for my old 1/36 losi micros. I dont race much but the only things ive hear negative about the noble is supposedly the latency which i dont care about

@@jordandeanda6244 I am wondering if that latency is going be a problem for just club racing, I’m planning to try 1/10 electric Touring. One factor that also I’ve considered is the prices of the receivers which they are very reasonably priced. I was looking at a Sanwa MT5 which is basically the same price but comes with one receiver. The noble comes with Two, the Sanwa receiver it about €90 and the Noble one is half the price.

@@ripmax333 the noble has a bunch of different receivers u can use some are $30 any AFHDS 3 receiver will work and the latency really isnt bad its just not as microscopically fast as a sanwa

There was but their latest firmware fixed all the deadband issues.

Innnnteresting, so no deadband anymore. Okay awesome. What i currently have has a huge deadband and it's awful. Was looking at one of these. Thanks! @@Varacer

i would say that sanwa and futaba is better in terms of feel and precision in the driving of the car and no latency (well for most people it feels instant) but its real hard to argue against the noblein terms of what it costs and what you get.

Thanks Blitz Works. Although I'm happy with the M17, I'll be keeping the Noble for bashing and crawling so will try to figure out that dead zone / calibration the next time I use it

I own a M17 and a DX5C plus I've used the NB4 quite a bit. The NB4 is far superior in every way to the DX5C and the M17 is in a different league.

You can’t go wrong with anything Sanwa, Futaba, or spektrum. However the spektrum is a lot more user friendly. The interface is the most simple on the market by far but also has all the features that one would need to race. And this is coming from a sanwa m17 owner. Most people can pick up a spektrum and learn it in minutes where as Sanwa, and Futaba might take some manual reading to really Grasp everything. As for the noble I’m not a giant fan of it, personally to me it feels a bit clunky and the feel of the radio doesn’t feel near as good as anything made by any of the other brands that I have mentioned. But at least for sanwa and Futaba receiver prices are just plain ridiculous and your looking at paying upwards of 80$ for a receiver. Spektrum has cheaper options but they are still more than the noble receivers. If I had to recommend something though go for the mid range options of spektrum, sanwa, Futaba. The support locally will be better and customer service for all three will be a millions time better. So dx5 pro, mt44/mt-5 or even a mts, or the Futaba 4pm. I know I didn’t pin point one but I hope this helps a tiny bit.

I'm sure you are right

Hi! I just bought an NB4- I don't know if you still need an answer, but the battery in the NB4 handle is a standard 18650 cell. If you have a local vape shop, you can even buy one there. You have to take out a few screws, but the battery lifts out- no soldering.

@@IN10THRC Thanks for that info but I was looking for the batter in the base. The one that is detachable. I contacted FlySky and they will sell it for $30 plus shipping when you email them.

@@sadmancho Well... I'm sorry I misinterpreted your question- but thanks for sharing the info that you found, because THAT may come in handy, too!

i did come from a flysky gt5 to a futaba 3pv for my race buggy and god o god why dident i go for a futaba from the start... eaven the cheap futaba feels in contact and control of the car in terms of precision of the input on the radio and the reciver responce and no delay. not that i want to rag to hard on the fly sky its a very good radio for the money (as its downgraded to my traxxas slash) and for most people to run a basher or a crawler as it got 6ch reciver but for racing the same amount of cash for a flysky gt5 or a futaba 3pv the futaba will be a much better radio for racing.

@@extec101 right!!! Watch when you go up to the futaba 7px or 10 px. Gonna blow your mind. But you gotta be serious about rc to enjoy. We are talking about great minute adjustment accuracy. Rolling the steering and throttle is so nice.

@@CODMODKILLER at the moment i dont feel the need or can afford a 7px or 10px im not a noob at driving dont get me wrong as i raced TC cars in the past and gone over to 1:10 OR recently. had tested other deivers high end radios in my car, sure they feelt good in the hand but i dont gained more speed at the track compared to the 3pv i got right now. as i see it i gain more from better setup tyres and pracice then a radio switch for now.

@@CODMODKILLER how's the 4PX latency wise and reaction speed is it any slower then the 7px or 10px? Or the 4PM ?

So buy a futaba as it’s a full touch screen if that’s the most important thing to you. Sanwa is easy to use but if you don’t know how the radio software works from previous radio models then I guess it’s hard to understand

Around $530 CAD for the M17

It does seem most that complain about the dead spot in the Noble NB4 NEVER mention tuning this feature in the radio setting, or in the expo settings. If you can race carpet offroad with the Noble NB4 I am thinking I could be fine racing it in 8th E buggy class, even coming from a Spektrum DX3R. I really wanna update to a more modern radio. Not gonna let my DX3R go anytime soon though, more I just wanna try a new style radio with a rechargeable pack and fancy touch screen.

@@thatoneguy2756 I use my noble for my ebuggy and now my drift car so I have all my cars on it and u can't beat it for the price

@@billynichols1008 thanks for your reply!

@@thatoneguy2756 any time

Noble latency is under 3ms. The futaba is like around 2ms. Most mere mortals would never be able to feel a difference if you're feeling a difference it's because you're throttle deadband is not been set properly where you would like it You need to get into the menus and figure it out it's not a problem with the latency of the radio.

Thanks Tuan but I'm going to keep them for rock crawling and bashing

@@mcleanrc1751 Why keep it if you like the Sanwa so much plenty of model memory ,One way to get better is to be super good with the TX you choose so I always say one radio for all things so I get to know every aspect of what it can do.

@@1BlackSheep I'd rather not take the expensive M17 on a crawling trail - will use it for racing only

Pros are sponsored, and therefore they must use the radios which are made by the radio brands who sponsor them. Yes, Futaba and Sanwa are good, but if other manufacturers can produce radios with response times, features, ergonomics, etc that are rival or equal those of radios from leading radio brands, then there’s no reason they cannot compete and be considered as an option. Companies other than Futaba and Sanwa *will* eventually emerge in the pro racing scene, and they’ll have to start somewhere. Not long ago, people spoke of Hobbywing the same way you’re talking about Flysky. Now look at Hobbywing. They’re heavily involved in high end 1/8 racing, and it’s not like they were making garbage directly before they started sponsoring pro racers. I wouldn’t be surprised if Flysky is currently in that stage that comes before involving themselves strongly in the racing scene.