Although this placement has its negative side, the positive side of this placement can be equally rewarding. For example, if someone with this placement can overcome the bad side of Saturn 8th house, then this placememt rewards you. This placement can give the native the unique power to see ALL the strengths and weaknesses of other people (whether its your colleagues, bosses, etc) and use them for good or bad. They can have the compacity to destroy their enemies through the occult or by themselves. This placement gives you ability to see through other people, means that someone with this placement has a very sharp and powerful mind. This placement also gives the person the ability to dig very deep into the matter of things to find the truth, no matter how unpleasant or dark it may seem, since saturn in endurance. It is best to never underestimate a person with this placement. The native can also endure difficult, dark conditions in life, which makes them tough as nails. This is my experience with this position.
Lada Duncheva I have Saturn in the 8th house...but my Saturn is in Capricorn. I also have a sun in the 8th house and my sun sign is Capricorn. I have no idea... but its confusing.. If you have any tips about this please keep me posted . Thanks for the information !
I am psychiatrist by profession doctor and Astrology as side intrest. .my saturn in 8th house with Aquarius ascendent. Rahu in 5th house, Jupiter and moon in Libra sign in 9th house. .Venus ketu in 11th house. Mercury in 12th house in Capricorn sign. .
Dear Lada, I have Saturn in the 8th house (and furthermore in Scorpio according to your calculations and those of Ernst Wilhelm), a lot of what you said seems acurate to me except the fact that one day I woke-up and had no more desire to smoke (after trying a few times before and praying...but quite suddenly and miraculously!)
I love love stories like yrs! It is a miracle. Do u mind giving me yr birth details and the time this happened. I am curious as to the planetary influences happening then.
Sure, I'll give you my birth details happily! Could you please indicate at which e-mail address I can send these to you? It probably does not make much of a difference, but I tend to value my privacy a lot and it would feel awkward to give my soul map out in the open although no one knows who I am. I'd be curious also to know if there was a planetary influence helping that shift in breaking that addiction or if it was something beyond (that 30% that Ernst says cannot be read in a chart). It happened around New-years 2012 and since then I have not looked back.
My God u r upto the point. i Have this position. Saturn in capricorn.Had a different time and family life.and i started learning astrology bcz i wanted to find out whats wrong in my birth chart thats causing and that has caused slo much mental stress and pain .and thats how i started learning it and i am quite good at it. I am quite good with all these things -astrology, psychology,and life after death and all And I can't ask for any kind of help from others.i find it difficult to do so. Been through traumas. I resist change but when I waana do something I do it,no matter what.bcz of this I have got many good habits
No, sorry. The point is that Saturn in your 8th house, regardless of what sign it is. If saturn is badly placed or badly aspected and it is in the 8th house, then it will STILL give a person a long life, but the long life will be full of pains (muscle pains, chronic pains, etc). If you don't want a long life, then too bad. You may have to be here for a long time and do good for humanity. Retrograde saturn still gives a long life.
Saturn and Jupiter in the 8th will delay the financial success, or makes it take a lot of work, but you can get there through own effort and make a lot of money, as long as you do not rely on partners, but your self. Also gives amazing insight into occult and psychological spheres-astrology, tarot, life after death. etc
@@Elwen-xs7gr Jupiter is submissive to Saturn when in Libra, cause Saturn is exalted. I just turned 40, so maybe good results start now. Obstacles, delays refering to every subject related the 8th house, that s how things have been until now.
So let me get this straight, i have Cancer RIsing Saturn in 8th House Virgo Moon and Pluto in 5th House I Was born to feel insecure and emotionally unstable GREAT
I understand why people who has Saturn in the 8th house has to have a long life: when they change so slowly, one change can take 10 years (for example escaping from a bad marriage), its good that they live long so that they have time to change and get something nice in life before they die.
***** I have some ideas here, if you want: You life will long so that you have time to heal and live happily, too. I was 30 years stuck, unhappy and part of that time I was truly depressed. I was unhappy because I let other people to rule my Saturn. (=other people told who I am, what I must do, what I must like, what I can say, what I must feel and especially what I am not allowed to feel (nothing, I was allowed to feel nothing: to feel happy was bad, to feel miserable was bad, to feel sad was bad and to be joyful was irrational = bad. Yes, this was the case.), I felt that I was forced to be a machine, who lived for other people and for their needs, I used my energy to boost their career but no-one boosted my career - until I noticed that I must do it myself. When I took the responsibility (Saturn) in my own hands, everything changed. I felt what I felt, did what I wanted to do, said what was in my mind, dressed as liked - little by little, more and more - and I am on the way to change my career completely, I am only in the beginning of my life, even I am 50 years old, and I am happier than I have ever been. I feel as I was 30 years old. I get younger every day, and it is true: I even look younger than I looked 10 years ago! Saturn is a very good planet and if you handle it well, it helps you a lot with all structures in your life. If Saturn is you strongest Planet, it would be really good for you to analyze, who is in charge of your life, you or someone else. I could recommend to study the Law of Attraction, for example from Abraham Hicks videos. Responsibility means to take responsibility of your own feelings. When you get a better feeling, then your life start to taste better. You can not have a better feeling if you do not live YOUR life. Your Saturn shows your responsibilities to yourself in the first place: what you must do to live happy life. If you do not take responsibility, there are people who walk over you and tell you who you should be in their opinion - to please them! If you do not take care of your life, you get miserable. Here traditional psychology is not helpful, because it is too rational. And whatever you do, the basic thing would be to take care of yourself. Take little steps trying to do things that make you happy to get up from the pit. Saturn means responsibility and it makes your life suck if you do not take the responsibility. You can turn your life a total opposite of what it is now. Truly. In astrology, I always try to look even in the worst aspect, how I can use them productively. There are always two sides in every aspect and every lane: dark and light. Now you've chosen the dark side. Choose the light side! When Saturn is about responsibility, do not avoid it - take responsibility! Then you don't go upstream but go with it, Play with Saturn, it is not your enemy.
***** I am not a doctor. Nor psychiatrist. I do not know your problem clearly. I can not even imagine what kind of problems people can have. I only know my experience and my ideas about Saturn in the astrological map. In astrological point of view, however, it seems to met that other people than yourself have taken the control of your life. They even ordered you to take drugs, because your behavior or ideas does not please them. Great. Maybe it id good to take those drugs until you feel better to see what it is what you want in your life. But the most important is: What you dream about? What is your passion in life? What you want to do in this life? Have anyone asked those questions from you? In your previous mail you said, that you think about sex and dead all the time. Really? I can not say anything about this. Sex is all about the birth of a new life and death is - death. There is no death without the birth. All I can tell is, that the only person who can save you, is you. You truly must find out what it is question in your case, solve it and go on - or stay there where you are. When you're interested in death, I do not believe that you are interested to stay where you are: you want to die. You can die physically OR die in that way, that you change your life completely. You can wake up. You can wake up to see, what good you can do in this life and just forget the whatever shit you have experienced. One thing I know for sure: when you have such a dark shadow, your light side must be very bright, because the more dark the shadow is, the brighter is the light. Turn your light side to be seen. You must be a very lightened person in that side! But you must do it yourself, no-one else can do it for you. They can only give drugs for you. Go to the light. Choose it. Astrological matters: are you Capricorn or Cancer? Pluto is very powerfully transiting these signs and Pluto is nothing else than transformation - and that can be a very, very deep time i your life. I have a friend, who is Capricorn of her Sun-sign. And whatever other planets she has in Capricorn. Ok: when Pluto came to Capricorn, about those times my friend's husband informed, that he had falled in love with his workmate - who was not interested in return. Soon after this they found out that he had a launch-cancer. My friend, the Capricorn, tr. Pluto conjuncting her Sun. took care of her husband, at home - a husband, who had use informed that he is in love with his workmate! Well, this man died. The funerals was nice, I was there. Soon after the funerals my friend got known, that her daughter have anorexia. So, after taking care of her husband for several months, now she had to put attention to her daughter, flu time job. She, my friend, is Capricorn, so under the Saturn and also now, when Pluto is transiting Capricorn, it is a very, very powerful transformation going on! She had to "die" for herself to go throw all this what was given to her. She is still on that journey - I hope she'll survive. You told, that you have a strong Saturn in your map, so I assumed, that you have some planets in Capricorn? And in which house? I think, that your feelings about dead and sex can also come from the transiting Pluto. Pluto is a symbol of transformation and transformation is the symbol of death and birth (=sex). So, so far, there is nothing wrong with you. You are just making your rebirth. You will come to the light in that case. When this is the time of transformation, you can clear you mind and find yourself and what you want in this life. My daughter has tr. Pluto in Capricorn opposition of her Sun/Venus in Cancer and I have had to do everything in my mind to understand this very heavy process that had continued for years in her life. I have experienced the same transit when I was 3 years old and then I got my younger sister. I do not remember that time at all. But in question of my daughter, who is a young adult, this transit is painful. It is painful also to me when I experience it throughout my daughter, Pluto is a very heavy transforming planet - and now it is is Capricorn - in the sign of Saturn. You said, that you have a strong Saturn in you map - so! Whatever you're going thorough, it is not you NATURE. It is not you. This time will pass away. Maybe this is the time to discover who you are, truly, what you truly want. Then you feel the light and your way is more clear. I hope the best for you.
***** Ok. Those Sun, Neptune, Mars etc. are only planets. Nothing else. Even astrology is interesting, it does not determinate you life path if you do not want to do it! You tell, that you sun is Leo: so you are dramatic! You want to be in the limelight? Interesting: my rising sing is Leo. My Sun is in Aries (in the 9th house) - your Ac as you said, is in Aries. This is why we communicate. We have something in common. These fire-sigs! We can be like this, very dramatic - and irritate other people when our opinions or behavior does not please others. In my opinion there is nothing wrong with you. You are certainly young? You want to live you life in your own way, you feel not free to do it so you get depressed or whatever? Saturn seems to mean your parent's control. My parents controlled my life for decades and I let them to do it. There was nothing in my life they didn't want to control even when I was over 20 years old (saturn in the 8th house, opposition Mars in the 2nd house) Parents mean good, but the fact is, that they just do not understand you and what you want in YOUR life. Is that so? Well, with the information you gave me: you are ok. There is nothing wrong with you. Nothing wrong with you. Your Moon and Mars are in Capricorn in the 10th house - when they are in the 10th house, I assume that you should put effort on your carrer-life and work what you do and love what you do for work, because it is very important to you. YOU must decide what you do in your life. In my natal-chart I have Pluto conjunction Mars - and I assume that you have that transiting Pluton conjunction Mars as transit. You have also Moon there in Capricorn. This is why you MOOD is like this now. Remember: your mood or feeling is not who you are. You are totally something else. It is not a bad thing to have Moon and Mars in the Capricorn and in the 10th house. Transiting Pluto makes it you to feel difficult right now and some years. But it is not your personality, what is happening now and it is difficult time especially when you are young. I can imagine that there are power struggles with your parents! Pluto means power -games, if you are not aware of it! I tell you this, because I have native experience of this Mars-Pluto-combination. You must get independent and find yourself. That is what is question about. You are under a pressure, I see it because i've experienced it, but not this heavily. When I had difficulties with my parents the most, transiting Pluto was in my 4th house - opposite of the 10th house. It was the most terrible time in my life. in question of my parents. Transiting Pluto in the 10th can not be easier! You have a power struggle with your parents, I see. ?? Concentrate on what you want to do in your life. You are a hard working-person who enjoys working and accomplishing things - according to the 10th house! This world needs you! :)
a bit more resistance and stagnation which is evenually build up into crisis and make the person do big change, usually after a lot of inner or outer tension, but when the change comes it is big
I had Saturn in my 8th house over the past 2.5 years n it turned my life 180 degree, my sex drive is gone, I became obsessed with almost any thing spiritual astrology, numerology, tarot, pendulum,...I even quit my job and considering becoming an astrologer :D I had really hard time healing from emotional separation from my TF, I'm much better in transformation being a Taurus moon it wasn't easy for me to transform yet I somehow managed to have dedication and discipline, even tho it's been a hard journey I appreciate all the lesson I learnt
elham kayed aren't you glad that was merely a transit rather than the natal position Lada is speaking of? Enjoy Saturn's transit now through your 9th and then your 10th..
Wow this explains a whole lot! Awesome video. The addict thing was never an option for me, I just deal (or don't actually) by building a wall. I always knew I had problems with trying to control my emotions and I thought it was weird that I never allowed myself to feel. I never work things through, I just burry it deep. I know I need to work on that. Also, it is true that I can, and really love to, help others work through their emotions and traumas.
Can't wait to turn 35! I'm 33 and definitely experiencing a better life now after my saturn return. It was a real mess before when it came to money issues. Experiencing problems with inheritance right now, very entangled situation built by divorced parents. but overall, life is definitely feeling lighter now.
famous ppl with Saturn 8th house : Kobe Bryant, Michael Jordan (NBA), Nipsey Hussle, Immortal Technique, J.K. Rowling. Self-mastery patience and going into the deep-end. thanks for the video Astrolada! teaches me to be patient with myself, instead of expecting instant progress. making change is hard for me. but, I won't stress myself by thinking that change should be instant, effortless and easy.
Incredible analysis of the 8th house/ Saturn position. Thank you, Lada. Brilliant and adorable. Background: I am trying to analyze my synastry chart with my ex who passed in 2013. He was a Scorpio Sun, Cancer Moon. I am Sagittarius/ Scorp Cusp, with Capricorn/ Aquarius Moon. We shared Leo Saturn in the 8th house, in our Davidson Synastry chart. He died of a pulmonary embolism in 2013. We were totally addicted to each other when we were dating as 18 year olds. No one would help us to be together (I met him in Brazil and he came to stay with me in the US). We were physically together for 9 months. My father made me dump him. He had no papers to work, I could not support us on minimum wages and I nearly married him but he hit me when I told him he had to return to Brazil. He just lost his mind and hit my hand. Needless to say, I cut him off and out of my life. We didn't talk for 13 years. Finally, my grandfather asked that I contact the Brazilian because it had been so long and he was tired of dealing with the language barrier. We began communication in 2008. He was married, I was married. Totally addicted to each other, again, The Brazilian and I were definitely star-crossed lovers. He always knew he would die young. He had contacted me every year for the thirteen years we were not talking-- I ignored his call because of my marriage. When we finally spoke, he told me he didn't want to die without speaking, or seeing me, one last time. I tried so hard to go see him-- but every effort to get together was thwarted by finance, after I divorced my ex-husband. He did die- in 2013, suddenly. He had been concerned that I would not know that he died since no one could know that we were speaking. The night of my birthday, I cruised Facebook and happened to click on a friend's page and saw the Brazilian's face listed as a friend. I selected his page and saw that he died, two night before my birthday, and 7 nights after his 37th birthday. He is with me to this day-- I can feel him and every song we exchanged seems to play endlessly on the radio. My experience with him has made me a believer in the afterlife. I miss him terribly though our relationship was so tumultuous.
This is helpful. I often hear of people to suddenly get released from severe trauma. And even blame myself for being soooo slow (37 now). But for me it is long long road. On my own I do hours and hours of trying, processing, and dying and still going on... I have also pluto sq mars.
if it is with the 8th house cusp you will feel it like being in the 8th, but you wll be able to overcome the issues of the 8th house more easily because the 8th cusp in the 9th sign fro Ascendant which means you(the Ascendant) have much more ability to deal with these issues.
not at all! a retro planet is more powerful because it is 3 times closer to Earth than when direct without the interefring influece of the Sun, you get the pure energy of Saturn then! Yr Saturn is in own sign so it should give more positive qualities and results than negative especially with age. This Saturn can become malefic if it is with Moon, Sun or Mars-one of its enemies or strongly aspected by them-then Saturn's power is undermined it gives more problems.
i have this position but whatever I decide to change I can in an instant. I used to smoke as well but decided to quit after college. I think it's all in the head. Or maybe because I have a 5 life path. My middle name is change. 😅
Thank you so much for this video. I'm in my 20's have had a lot of traumas in my life and am working in therapy and doing breathing exercises, I have Saturn in the 8th house and I relate to so much of what you're saying. This video is amazing.
Oooo even i have this position.saturn in 8th house in Capricorn sign.from here it aspects 2nd house of family. and i had a difficult childhood.😢bcz of that me and my family went through a lot of trauma and stress.i had anxiety issue.and many other things
i have saturn in 8th/9th house aries. I'm very reclusive, sensitive and addictive. i love the occult and astrology and i have a lot of trouble trusting people. I'm a depressed melancholic
well u have the honesty to say these things---I feel I am the same, without the melancholic bit, maybe because my Saturn is Exalted, so easier to deal with. Saturn Aries puts a lot of self criticism
in what sign is your saturn? what does saturn in the 9th house indicate? although my rising sign is leo i may be perceived as a capricorn rising sometimes. I'm very self-critical, thats true. i also have the sun (gemini), mercury(taurus) and mars(taurus) in the 10th house of capricorn.
Hi Lada, My saturn is in the 8th house in sagittarius, is this why I'm depressed most of the times and I also have problem in mingling with the people?
+SUMUKH MUTALIK Sagittarius is the optimistic sign... Saturn isn't that bad, it just helps you try to overcome that problem. Go and make friends... Overcome your fear. Trust people. Go out and achieve. Think positive.
Hi I have Saturn in 8th house in Sagittarius.. I can relate to your statement. However , I consciously started mingling and making friends.. learnt the basics of relationship.. slowly and steady I have improved.. trust me.. put efforts .. trail and error.. learn. U will be good one day..keep trying.
Thank you so much for this video, Lada. You really gave me a completely new perspective on this placement, which is the first one I really identify with. The 8th house has been tricky for me to understand completely. I have been going through analysis for years but hopefully Jupiter's transit in Cancer this year will benefit me!
depends which planet is the strongest in the 8th-it will take over, but the rest will also be felt. If they are in Libra, then Saturn is the strongest as it is in exaltation. The themes of 8th house though will still be very intense and even more important in the life of the person
Lada Duncheva I have saturn, my Moon, Jupiter and Pluto all in my 8th house, in Libra. I feel the 8th house so strong in my life. This video is sooo helpful for me, the validation that I needed. I'm now 37 and just really growing up. I feel like Chiron, the wounded healer. I have known this since I was a child.
lol, you most likely have passed through a quite a dramatic, trauma and crisis prone few lives(ketu-past lives) which affected your self confidence and self believe a lot, so you need to regain this self-empowerment again. You can be in careers which are 8th house connected
Thanks for the reply Lada! I was freaking out a bit. If it is with the Sun and Mercury R in the same house in the order like this going counter clockwise: MeR->Saturn-> Sun waht does this combination mean? does the sun burn the energies of Saturn? does MeR take over the house, since it is Retro? please help! also, I think you should write a book. It would sell well and it would give you a reason to get oN TV and Promote!! A big fan!
I have OCD but I always thought that was my Virgo sun or Scorpio Ascendent doing that. Also, my chart says that Saturn is in the end of the 8th house, so does that mean it's interpreted in the 9th house? Can someone please answer this question for me? Thanks
Fab interpretation, as ever. Mine is in Taurus so my addiction is food! :) I was wondering how Sat's effect change if it is retrograde in the VIII? Thanks!
yep, a bit more karma in your life. But check which one the 3 house cusps Saturn is closest in degree to, it will affect it the most. You can check the degree of th house cusps and Saturn in the table below
Will sex improve? Ability to let go and jump over aka orgasm and frequencies? I have a long distance relationship with the man I love. I don't have much sex. And yes I have trouble with pluto, so I got trauma to heal..and that may be why it is hard for me to get what I could get aka orgasms. (But sex is real important to me and I love my partner and our sex is great) Thank you
Hey Lada, i've saturn in the 8th house i.e. in sagittarius....what does that mean? i mean most of whatever you've said was true with me....i feel rejected every where....i feel like an outsider...
Have Saturn in Capricorn in the 8th. Experiencing second Saturn return and having major delays and difficulties collecting inheritance. One block after the other. Transiting Pluto is also conjuncting T Saturn. So, I can only think a major life lesson is being learnt. (no fun!)
Interesting! My 8th house has neptune and jupiter exalted in Sagittarius however my crush beings his 1st house saturn, neptune, And uranus to my 8th house. Unsure how it’ll play out
Hi Lada, thank you very much for all that you do. I'm experiencing some confusion on my Saturn placement, on some other websites it is saying that my Saturn is in the eighth house and your birth chart calculator it is saying my placement is in the nighth house. My question to you is which one do I follow?
If Saturn in 8th house Aquarius is aspected by Jupiter in 4th house Libra, then does the Jupiter aspect change the negative effects to positive effects?
According to my moon sign im Leo and my Saturn is in pieces and in 8th house where Jupiter in Capricorn 6th house Mars in libra 3rd house and sun in cancer 12th... So my husband would not HV a good income?
I am 36, Ardra, mithun (moon) aries(sun), n° 2/1, manglik 8th: born in a dirty backward country: France, been to jail, lost my best job, 1rst wife shit me, papa die early, but ahahahah I m still there while white people commit easily suicide, not me, never I am optimism, I am a Tamilan.
Thank you so much for this! I’m 35 now & look forward to turning 36 so I can be done with that lesson after lesson & have a better relationship with Saturn in 8H. How can I best prepare to turn over this new leaf?
I have my second saturn in the eight house in capricorn return, all of the above applies. However I really work hard at it , I must say I felt hopeful but this is a bit hard to hear, I really want to know if there are any way to make this easier and what can one do to make this less of a hardship. Is it possible at all to find peace or is this just your fate??
Always love your tutorials, thanks Lada. But I got a question about Saturn, my saturn is in Sagittarius but, it sits between house 7 and 8, depending on if you're using placidus or equal house system. Which variation would you recommend to go by? also side real or tropical? because I see you're using a kundli.
Hi I would use for personal horoscopes tropical zodiac as it is more local, earth zodiac. I would check the whole sign house the planet is in and also if there is a house cusp close to it and especially house cusp in the same sign as it even if it is after it, then this planet will affect that one too. For example Saturn for me sits in the 9th sign from ascendant but they 8th house cusps is in this sign with Saturn. My Saturn carries the energy of both houses, externally I feel the house cusp manifesting more, but internally I am totally Saturn in the 9th.
@@LadaDuncheva so you mean to say, if saturn is in a specific sign like virgo for example, but its in the 7th house cusp. saturn will then internally show virgo's energy, but externally the 7th house libra energy? by the way are you aries rising? with me im at the middle of taurus and aries rising and my parents cant agree on the birth time between 40 minutes.
Very frank, an admirable quality; analysis is good. When Saturn is retrograde in the 8th, it becomes a little unpredictable; if aspected my Mars, the death can be quite sudden, which is a blessing
Thank God.i am relieved now.i have saturn in 8th house in Capricorn and i really got upset when she told about painful death.but mars is aspecting saturn so i hope it won't be a painful death😕😕😕😕.and moreover saturn gives really long life and i dont wanna live long.when i have a shitty life whats the point of long life.long life =more sufferings 😒😒😒
I hate my Saturn (Aquarius) in the 8th not only because it's awful position but also it squares my Sun, Mercury, Venus and Jupiter (Scorpio) in the 5th house....talk about having hard time in life...I wouldn't mine an advise.
+Zachary Rogers those planets are working together to deal with the 8th house issue. May want to come up with ideas, work hard to resolve your financial problem. Or you may have a career with working with government, military, teaching, helping people, science, invention, hospital kinda job, handling money or religion. Doing research. May have some sexual issue. Or delay in getting inheritance. Working so hard to get money.
Hello Jonas, not it is not the same. Saturn rules over the 8th, but it is not physically there, Saturn will connect the 8th house matters with the planets or house it is with
I have Saturn in 8th and in Scorpio. What does that combo mean, if I may ask? Also according to the natal chart at cafeastrology, my saturn makes no aspects.
I'm about to be 35 back in February of last year my boyfriend at the time almost took my life before that I had one hell of a life so far. I finally moved out of my neighborhood last June it was the best decision I could of made at the time. A couple months after a got beat up I started listening to tarot readings on you tube and after that it felt like I decovered a whole new world. Iv been interested in tarot, Astrology spiritually and magic. I stay mostly to myself now iv been learning who I am and to Love myself so far so good. Right Now I just feel stuck in life.
Thank you!! I have Saturn on my Ascendant in my natal chart but I currently have Saturn transiting my 8th House (Sagittarius) with my Moon! I FEEL toxic. I couldn't understand why I feel so badly and I feel as if I'm constantly in "Fight or Flight"! I've been searching for answers through the occult and I didn't know why!? Astrology is REAL! I always believed in Astrology but now I KNOW it's the truth!! Again, thank you so much.
