Sauron's Island of Werewolves | Of Beren and Lúthien : Silmarillion Explained - Part 5 of 9

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Vampires and Werewolves. Lúthien vs Sauron. Huan and the Battle at the Island of Werewolves.
It's time to talk Sauron in the First Age!
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Beren & Lúthien 101 | Introduction - • Beren and Lúthien 101 ...
Beren & the Outlaws | Part 1 - • Beren & the Outlaws Un...
Lúthien Tinúviel | Part 2 - • Lúthien Tinúviel - Dau...
The Quest of the Silmaril | Part 3 - • The Quest of the Silma...
The Escape of Lúthien | Part 4 - • The Escape of Lúthien ...
Sauron's Island of Werewolves | Part 5 - • Sauron's Island of Wer...
Finrod Felagund Character Breakdown - • Finrod Felagund - Full...
The Wolfhound of Valinor | Part 6 - • The Wolfhound of Valin...
Inside Angband | Part 7 - • Inside Angband | Of Be...
The Hunt of the Wolf | Part 8 - • The Mightiest Wolf to ...
The Doom of Beren & Lúthien | Part 9 - • The Doom of Beren and ...
Learn more about Vampires & Werewolves - • Werewolves & Vampires ...
Learn more about the life of Sauron - • Sauron | The Lord of t...
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@Mr41297 2 года назад

My girlfriend was struggling reading through the Silmarillion, then I stumbled upon your channel. Thank you Rainbow Dave for making these clear concise and entertaining videos for us to watch together!

@SkywalkerSamadhi 2 года назад

As someone who’s read The Silmarillion many times through, Dave of Many Colors really does an amazing job of summing up the big picture and also gleaming out all the beautiful gems hidden like the city of Gondolin in these stories.

@justinah7400 2 года назад

Tolkien Untangled is by far the best channel at adapting the Legendarium into simplified storytelling while going into great detail that tells the whole story from an up close view and a 3,000 ft. view seamlessly

@SkywalkerSamadhi 2 года назад

@@justinah7400 I concur

@tarlhall5149 2 года назад

One of my favourite parts of the Beren and Luthien story. Huan and Felagund are the best of the best. Thanks RD.

@mlebrooks 2 года назад

It's like a great courses in Tolkein but free of charge.

@skatemetrix 2 года назад

Finrod sacrificed himself with the understanding that no help was coming and that Sauron would just send in another werewolf to devour Beren. But because of the oath Finrod did what he did to prolong Beren's life for a few more minutes or hours. So in a sense on Finrod's part his sacrifice would do no greater good, it was purely to stay true to the oath he made.

@matthewevans6502 2 года назад

He was amongst the wisest of all of the Exiles and demonstrated a degree of prophecy in his prior gifting the ring and making the promise. He may have foreseen that Beren could indeed survive if he did this last act to preserve him - to survive just long enough to meet Lüthien and escape to the eventual ruin of Sauron and Morgoth both.

@12classics39 5 месяцев назад

Nobody has to agree, but my hopeless romantic brain has become fond of the idea that Finrod and Bëor the Old were actually in love, and this is why Bëor followed Finrod to be with him in Nargothrond for the rest of his life…and thus Finrod swore his oath to Barahir and later saved Beren not just out of personal friendship and gratitude (though that was, of course, a big part of it), but also out of enduring love for their long-dead ancestor.

@_semih_ 2 года назад

16:26 I like how Tolkien mentioned a bit more detailed version of Sauron's thought: "The werewolves howled, and Huan hidden lay and growled watchful listening in the dark, waiting for battle cruel and stark. Thû heard that voice, and sudden stood wrapped in his cloak and sable hood in his high tower. He listened long, and smiled, and knew that elvish song. 'A! little Lúthien! What brought the foolish fly to web unsought? Morgoth! a great and rich reward to me thou wilt owe when to thy hoard this jewel is added.' Down he went, and forth his messengers he sent." (J.R.R Tolkien, The Lay of Leithian, p123-125)

@morgothbauglir8687 2 года назад

Here’s a passage from Of Beren and Lúthien - The Silmarillion that always gives me chills when I read it “Therefore he (Sauron) took upon himself the form of a werewolf, and made himself the mightiest that had yet walked the world; and he came forth to win the passage of the bridge. So great was the horror of his approach that Huan lept aside. Then Sauron sprang upon Lúthien; and she swooned before the menace of the fell spirit in his eyes and the foul vapour of his breath. But even as he came, falling she cast a fold of her dark cloak before his eyes; and he stumbled, for a fleeting drowsiness came upon him. Then Huan sprang. There befell the battle of Huan and Wolf-Sauron, and the howls and baying echoed in the hills, and the watchers on the walls of Ered Wethrin across the alley heard it afar and were dismayed.”

@docopoper 2 года назад

I love Luthien's style of power. She feels like a great river. She comes up to Sauron's tower and sings a song powerful enough to bypass any of his machinations or defences, basically announcing herself to him at the same time. Then after her OP bodyguard has taken out Sauron's elite forces and Sauron comes out she is undaunted by him and with Huan's help cows him completely and then just kinda takes control of his tower and frees everyone. Like, my god she feels like an unstoppable force in this moment haha.

@Mecceldorf 2 года назад

You’d think based on the other tales of Middle Earth there would be some level of cunning or bargaining or infiltration and sabotage, but no, a straight up siege on an island castle from one princess and a dog (but like, a really good boy). This is Sauron we’re talking about, he’s a little twerp.

@blackwolf4653 2 года назад

Amazon would have made her kill everybody with a Sword.

@jeromyframe1930 2 года назад

Love the optimism and joy you provided with the ending. I remember reading this part of the silmarillion and feeling soured and angry over the lose of Finrod and how all the elves in their fellowship where slaughtered. You turn a very dark chapter into redemption with your overall perspective and story telling of Professor Tolkien’s full story. Love it Dave!

@darko-man8549 2 года назад

Sauron: lawful evil Morgoth: chaotic evil

@mrs.manrique7411 2 года назад

Beren and Luthien could have run off and married without fulfilling the oath to Luthiens father, but they do anyway. Obviously because they take their oaths seriously, but also because they've personally experienced and seen the destruction of Morgoth and wish to challenge him, AND because their oath is one of love like Finrod Felegund's. It's such an empowering story!

@TheMarcHicks 2 года назад

Oaths are *extremely* serious in the Legendarium.....

@calhounrules1 2 года назад

@@TheMarcHicks I agree.

@Orovingwen 2 года назад

They do actually consider it. Luthien would be fine with it but Beren wants to do things "properly"

@12classics39 5 месяцев назад

@@OrovingwenA great quality of Beren’s, I think. Unlike many toxic “heroes” who are always like “leave everyone you love behind and run away with me,” Beren doesn’t want to force Lúthien to cut ties with her family, and wants to get on her parents’ good side. That’s actually very boyfriend material of him.

@theinformationstation5328 2 года назад

Hell yes! The way to start the morning. Oh yea. Just as good as I hoped. Huan just rippin apart Werewolves left and right and then choke slamming Sauron till he taps out. How could one go wrong presenting such a banger of a story. Thank you 😊

@artewilliams758 Год назад

I love Luthien's determination, love and courage. How she just approaches Sauron's creatures and even Sauron himself. She has no fear whatsoever, and with the aid of Huan, literally overthrows Sauron. Awesome. Heartbreaking about Finrod.

@Glorfindel_117 2 года назад

As much as I adore Maedhros and Glorfindel, Finrod will always be my favourite character in Arda. I legit start choking and tearing up every single time I think of his death and reunion with his wife.

@victordonavon292 Год назад

If I understand and remember correctly, he wasn't married yet at the time of his death, though he had a beloved in Valinor. Perhaps, he reunited with her and finally married her after doing some time in the hall of Mandos.

@AlexisLopez-pb8ms Год назад

Wow now I see why Finrod is one of your favorites. At least this is one oath (of abiding friendship) that is inspiring.

@Angrenost02 2 года назад

Indeed Sauron seem to have stayed hidden for the rest of the first age, probably because he feared Morgoth's wrath. In the end that is probably the reason he wasn't immediately captured or destroyed in the War of Wrath. Also during his absence Glaurung seems to have taken his place as Morgoth's lieutenant. Edit: Finrod is my favorite character from the Silmarillion and my favorite elf character ever. Such a good guy.

@ZemiEmperor 2 года назад

Meanwhile, here's what I've read on the internet this morning and almost spilled my coffee: "Before the King... Before the Fellowship... Before the Ring... There was... diversity"

@tomk537 2 года назад

I have watched many lore videos of Beren and Luthien - but your video actually made me tear up a bit! Such moving tale of loyalty and love and bravery - this along with the children of Hurin and fall of Gondolin - these stories are the true three jewels of Tolkien’s first age of middle earth!!

@ZemiEmperor 2 года назад

I'm a simple man. I see a new video by Rainbow Dave and I click like

@jeffagain7516 2 года назад

Though not named or even so to speak, categorized by Tolkien, I believe there was a group of Spirits that though less powerful than the Maiar were still of the same ilk and of a level of being more than even Elves. The Valar and I suppose a few Maiar, such as Sauron, had the ability to infuse these Spirits in desired forms, whereas the Maiar were able to select a form on their own. Of these lesser Spirits, I would suggest we could include; - Carcaroth - Draugluin (and the other werewolves) - Glaurung (and probably other dragons) - Huan - Shelob (and possibly, some other spiders) - Thorondor (and probably Gwaihir) - Thuringwethil (though I don't think the bats at Erebor were, but perhaps some?) - Watcher In The Water [and the "Nameless Things" beneath Khazad-Dum] ( though that could be a leap), - no doubt others I'm forgetting The consideration that Draugluin was named the "Father" of werewolves, may not necessarily be taken literally, as we are told Sauron bound these spirits into wolf forms. It may only mean he was "the first". Same with Glaurung. Though considered the "Father" of dragons, I don't think it specifically means he physically sired them, simply that he was again, "the first". Also, no mention of "mothers" at all and I think even in Arda, it takes two to tango. Just some thoughts to chew on, from one who dearly loves ALL of Tolkien's works. :) p.s. absolutely agree with your assessment of Sauron's perspective regarding Morgoth, after this defeat!

@alex.scaraoschi 2 года назад

Maybe Iluvarat clowded Sauron's judgement even more so his attention was completely turned away from Beren. Another marvellous vid!

@martharunstheworld Год назад

Such an amazing episode, thank you! We can't help thinking that JRRT poured what he saw in war in the description of the prisoners. Every time I read this part, I cry, knowing that he saw this in real life and was able to at least partially, aid himself through his pain, by writing it in beautiful, if not extraordinarily sad prose.

@DHTC888 2 года назад

O MY GODDDDD I LOVE YOU RAINBOW DAVE!!! Holy sh*t if this wasn’t epic enough, just yesterday I finished 10/10 Battle of Sudden Flame and that blew my mind so hard I listened to it on endless repeat ALL DAY (I make deliveries at work). What a magical weekend thanx so much Rainbow Dave!!!! ❤💛💚💙 ps - I am sharing this with EVERYONE - I've already got two others into you!

@tolkienuntangled 2 года назад

Thanks so much! I massively appreciate it. I'm really glad you enjoy the videos!

@_spacegoat_ 2 года назад

Exceptional content, as usual! Very well done, RD! I read the Silmarillion when I was in high school, but I didn't really understand it very well. Your channel is like reading it again, but with understanding this time. Thank you!

@pepetrueno5916 2 года назад

I just fall in love with Lúthien...

@TheEsperandus 2 года назад

Imagining a live version of the battle in the gates between huan and a horde of werewolves, culminating in an utterly epic takedown of Sauron, when Luthien dominates him and then disintegrates the tower.... On the one hand, I wouldnt want amazon to ruin it. on the other hand, seeing a movie on this would be awesome

@jennipherem3695 2 года назад

Thanks Rainbow Dave! I just watched your Werewolves and Vampires video. I would agree that werewolves and wargs are kin. In fact I would put less emphasis on them being different than you do. In The Ring Goes South, when the fellowship fight (what are presumed to be wargs) in the battle of Hollin, Gandalf speaks this command: `Naur an edraith ammen! Naur dan i ngaurhoth!‘ Sounds familiar: 'Naur dan i ngaurhoth' means 'Fire against the werewolf-host'. Gandalf is using the Sindarin word for werewolf, not for wolf (draug). Perhaps then the only difference with wargs is they have lost some potency over the generations. Or among the wargs remain some greater captains that are still powerful werewolves - think of the 'great wolf chieftains' the likes of Aragorn slay in that battle. When Gandalf says "wargs and werewolves" I think this is not necessarily about making a clear distinction between them, but about presenting the spectrum of names and power of their enemies.

@tolkienuntangled 2 года назад

The more I've thought about it, the more I'm inclined to agree. The fact that wargs have their own language in the Hobbit (although talking animals should probably be taken with a pinch of salt when it comes to the Hobbit) makes them seem very different to regular wolves. And when the fellowship fight the wargs on Caradhras, their bodies disappear in the morning. They're definitely more than just animals.

@erwingvargas2272 2 года назад

Beren & Lúthien would make an excellent theater adaptation, even better than a film I believe.

@coreyperez8817 2 года назад

I love your how your love of the material comes through in your excitement. :) You make it all very approachable.

@MrARock001 2 года назад

Imagine if Sauron had learned some magic from Morgoth that enabled him to capture the Fëa from slain elves before they could fly to the Halls of Mandos to be reincarnated. Would the elves have any way of knowing this was to be their fate? Would the ones who sailed West show up in Valinor like "Where is everybody?" And Mandos just shrugs like "As far as I know, no elf has died in like six thousand years."

@crhu319 2 года назад

Now that's an astonishingly powerful plot twist.

@FutureOverYou 2 года назад

Love the Spike clips. Probably my favorite fang person from Buffy.

@sunsin1592 2 года назад

Recently copied the Isle of Werewolves for my D&D game. The players have to rescue a captured bard who has vital information they need. I made the werewolves wolves that were inhabited by demon spirits. And yes, there's a vampire there.

@tolkienuntangled 2 года назад

Awesome!

@MellowMutts270 2 года назад

I am rewatching this series and pretty much all the others too. I just want to say if anyone says Tolkien didn’t write strong women I will sit them down and make them listen to/watch this. No Luthien doesn’t wield a sword, she doesn’t lead an army, she doesn’t do amazing karate or whatever. Too often people mistake those things for power or strength. Luthien and most of the women in Tolkien’s writings wield real power which is wisdom and unwavering courage.

@Harpyr1031 2 года назад

Another great video to start Friday.

@ODUBlue 2 года назад

How in the world do you manage to create such intricate content on such a regular basis?? Wait…is Rainbow Dave a Maiar?!

@ODUBlue 2 года назад

I would just like to point out that RD did NOT deny it 🧐🤔😂

@CryMyName100 Год назад

this is such a good comment

@macwecek Год назад

The 6th Istari…

@bobboonah 9 месяцев назад

Dave of many colours?

@emsey6097 2 года назад

Hey many colored Dave!! Your the highlight of my youtube week!!!!!!! THANK YOU for all your effort!!!!!

@MellowMutts270 2 года назад

Awesome video!! That picture of the wolf on the right at 2:01 kept me up at night when I was a kid. I love this story so much

@wesbeuning1733 2 года назад

Since The Nature of Middle Earth came out, I absolutely think Morgoth was putting elf souls in Werewolves, and spiders, and haunted mountains, and trolls. Warping Orcs was the most heinous blasphemy against Eru, indeed. I think maybe they waiting on publishing that was because maybe people weren't ready for eternally totured elf ghosts possessing monsters.

@shehassee 2 года назад

Along with Galadriel Finrod is one of my very favorite characters in Tolkien’s legendarium

@_semih_ 2 года назад

28:18 She did NOT declared her power! Sauron told Luthien the "opening word" to cancel his own spell upon Tol-Sirion: "Nigh the foul spirit Morgoth made and bred of evil shuddering strayed from its dark house, when Lúthien rose and shivering looked upon his throes. 'O demon dark, O phantom vile of foulness wrought, of lies and guile, here shalt thou die, thy spirit roam quaking back to thy master's home his scorn and fury to endure; thee he will in the bowels immure of groaning earth, and in a hole everlastingly thy naked soul shall wail and gibber-this shall be, *unless the keys thou render me of thy black fortress,* and the spell that bindeth stone to stone thou tell, *and speak the words of opening.'* ... *With gasping breath and shuddering he spake, and yielded* as he must, and vanquished betrayed his master's trust." (J.R.R Tolkien, The Lay of Leithian, p127)

@isthatjackson 2 года назад

This excerpt is my favorite part of the legendarium I think. Sharon’s power, Luthien abs Huan overcoming him. It’s so epic.

@cuitaro 2 года назад

Sharon? SHARON! I am *_Sauron_* *_Lord Of The Rings!_* !

@_semih_ 2 года назад

Only by the luck... you know. Otherwise both of them defeated by the wolf-Sauron. When he faced Huan at the bridge, Huan fled in fear. And he made Luthien (a.k.a the most powerful elf that ever lived) to fade desperately just by a glance.

@isthatjackson 2 года назад

@@cuitaro LMAO SHARON!!! I can’t change it now either. It’s too good

@SlackKeyMinecraft 2 года назад

Perhaps at some point Sauron met Shelob while he was being a vampire and stuff and they together went to Mordor some time after the first age.

@donya716 2 года назад

Thank you for those amazing series ❤ The idea of the videos about each major character we lost in the first age is a good idea i really really reaarlllyyyy can't wait to a video about Maedhros my favorite son of Feanor ! ofc after him Maglor BUT what i can't wait more for is the next videos of this series ❤ ❤ ❤ Thank you Rainbow Dave about those videos , it is really refreshing my Silmarillion vibe ❤ ❤ Untill next time my dear friend much love

@tolkienuntangled 2 года назад

I absolutely love Maedhros too!

@donya716 2 года назад

@@tolkienuntangled i'm really happy that we share the same opinion ! i just respect him !

@TheMarcHicks 2 года назад

.....and so began a millenias old grudge between Sauron and the descendants of Luthien.

@thespyingeyeofmordor 2 года назад

Ar-Pharazon is a total failure of a descendant of Beren and Luthien when it comes to Sauron. Elendil is a better descendant.

@Sandbarfight Год назад

Thank you so much I see millions of followers in your future. I tell everyone about your channel. It is hands down the best.

@Daisy-sc6tm 2 года назад

I love your video's My understanding of Tolkien has increased so much. Thank You.

@JagoBridgland 2 года назад

This is probably my favourite part of the whole legendarium

@H0plite99 2 года назад

You do very good work on these. Appreciate these very much!

@docsavage8640 2 года назад

Great video. Your channel is like a well-researched Tolkien study guide.

@jamesrossi1910 2 года назад

Woohoo! One of the best chapters of all Arda history

@cuddles31 2 года назад

Been waiting all week! Cheers Dave!!

@_semih_ 2 года назад

24:49 Sauron was still under Morgoth's service. He went to Taur-nu-fuin to establish a new throne and a darker stronghold: "...A vampire shape with pinions vast screeching leaped from the ground, and passed, its dark blood dripping on the trees; and Huan neath him lifeless sees a wolvish corpse-Sauron had flown to Taur-na-Fuin, *a new throne and darker stronghold there to build."* (J.R.R Tolkien, The Lay of Leithian, p128-129) And as far as we know from the conversation between Luthien and Morgoth, that Sauron were sending messengers from Taur-nu-fuin to Angband. Even that's why Morgoth noticed that Luthien was not Sauron's messenger because he(Sauron) already sent one recently: "Tinúviel spake, a shrill, thin, sound piercing those silences profound: *'A lawful errand here me brought; from Sauron's mansions have I sought, from Taur-na-Fuin's shade* I fare to stand before thy mighty chair!' ... [Morgoth:] "Thy name, thou shrieking waif, thy name! *Tidings enough from Sauron came but short while since. What would he now?* Why send such messenger as thou?" ... [Luthien:] "Thuringwethil I am, who cast a shadow o'er the face aghast of the sallow moon in the doomed land of shivering Beleriand." ... [Morgoth:] 'Liar art thou, who shalt not weave deceit before mine eyes. Now leave thy form and raiment false, and stand revealed, delivered to my hand!' "There came a slow and shuddering change: the batlike raiment dark and strange was loosed, and slowly shrank and fell quivering. She stood revealed in hell." (J.R.R Tolkien, The Lay of Leithian, p 178)

@paulemge9156 2 года назад

My headcanon is that Finrod was able to use his fea to strengthen his hroa. Same as when Fingolfin faced Morgoth

@lancevalencia6852 2 года назад

Wouldn't Sauron convincing the Numenorians to worship Morgoth and make human sacrices to him in the Second Age disprove your theory about him not being a servant to Morgoth. It just popped into my head. But I definitely understand your point about him pursuing his version of perfection which is a contradiction to Morgoth's ultimate aim. Love the videos! You're one of the very few people I subscribe too haha

@tolkienuntangled 2 года назад

I considered this, but I truly believe Sauron's Melkor worship in Numenor is a deception. I think he knows Melkor is gone for good, and his motives are entirely self serving.

@michelleanderson8370 2 года назад

I found your channel a few days ago and have been binge watching all of your videos. I can't thank you enough for all the work you have put into making these for us! I'm a huge Tolkien fan, reading all the books at least once a year, and have really enjoyed listening to your videos - although I admit to having a few eyebrow raising moments lol Silmarillion is one of my all time favorite books and also read that regularly. Again, thank you

@jayt9608 2 года назад

I was scrolling and contemplating my next video to watch when Sauron's face appeared on a thumbnail. I checked the timevof release and could hardly wait to watch the video knowing that I was going to enjoy my next 30+ minutes.

@pentegarn1 2 года назад

Woooooo you did it!!! You really did it!!! *Howls* Strigoi around the world thank you.

@iamtheoysterking Год назад

The pillar and greatest theme of Tolkien’s world is entropy. I love the theories that greater wolves and the great bats are the offspring of the werewolves and vampire of the old legends. It would be such a parallel to the heritage of the Mirkwood spiders, Uruk-Hai, Trolls and more

@NarwhaI95 2 года назад

My quest of rewatching has just made it past the 6 on the simarils, just had to watch this first :D

@jcfra420 2 года назад

I just discovered your channel and have chain watched 3 videos. Great content and entertaining breakdown.

@lancevalencia6852 2 года назад

I wonder how pissed the other 9 elves were when they found out Finrod could have burst out of his chains and killed the werewolf at anytime while they were being eaten alive...

@_semih_ 2 года назад

Yeah lol 😂 The souls of other elven companions in Mandos: "Dude, why you didn't save us too?" Felagund: 🤷🏻‍♂️ The souls of the elven companions: 😑

@lancevalencia6852 2 года назад

@@_semih_ Finrod: "See what had happened was..." lol

@seanhartel5362 2 года назад

Amazing video Rainbow Dave! Brought me back to the first time I ever read this story. When are we gonna get your Top Ten fears for The Rings of Power series coming up?

@tolkienuntangled 2 года назад

Thanks! Honestly I was hoping to get it uploaded on Thursday, but I've been very busy with life things this week. I'm working on it right now, and hopefully I'll get it uploaded this weekend.

@MJC1891 2 года назад

So are you doing to whole story ? I’m hooked you put a lot into this. Thank you.

@tolkienuntangled 2 года назад

I'm glad you enjoy it. Yeah my plan with this channel is to go through the entire history of Middle-earth chronologically in a series of playlists like this one.

@ronshaffer310 2 года назад

Rainbow Dave , I appreciate what you do. Thank you.

@glennfuller9171 2 года назад

Great video on a terrific topic!

@FinarfinNoldorin 2 года назад

I love your videos...thank you SO much.

@_semih_ 2 года назад

20:16 At this point, Luthien literally lost her mind and sh*t herself: "More huge were its limbs, its jaws more wide, its fangs more gleaming-sharp, and dyed with venom, torment, and with death. The deadly vapor of its breath swept on before it. Swooning dies the song of Lúthien, *and her eyes are dimmed and darkened with a fear,* cold and poisonous and drear. Thus came Sauron, as wolf more great than e'er was seen from Angband's gate to the burning south, than ever lurked in mortal lands or murder worked." (J.R.R Tolkien, The Lay of Leithian, p125)

@willyuhler3417 2 года назад

Your narrations are amazing Rainbow Dave!

@tolkienuntangled 2 года назад

Thank you. I'm really glad you enjoy the videos!

@valaraukar_595 2 года назад

Ok, rainbow Dave. You've won a new subscriber. Great videos!

@12classics39 5 месяцев назад

Gotta love Lúthien and Huan giving Sauron a well-deserved knock to the hubris.

@nithanalorn 2 года назад

Love your channel!!❤️❤️

@jamth118 2 года назад

Great video my friend, Keep up the great work :)

@TheMarcHicks 2 года назад

I also think Sauron straight up feared Morgoth's wrath over his failure.

@Brandon_Bonanza 2 года назад

Great Episode!

@lordofthehouseofstormcrows8615 2 года назад

Well met RD! Excellent Excellent content. I hope all is well. Looking forward to the rest of the series. Keep up the great work! ECTHELION

@spacechampi0n 2 года назад

I know Huan can speak but chooses to do so only in important moments, but at 21:44 I imagine him speaking to Sauron and saying "you're my bitch now!"

@sharoncraker8393 2 года назад

Wow. I loved this piece. Do you have any idea of how well you consistently do this?

@MrARock001 2 года назад

Though of course the Hobbit was written by Bilbo, so it's possible that he was relying on hobbit myths about vampires which were only loosely based on "real" Middle Earth vampires.

@hitchman84 2 года назад

When thinking of Draugluin the figure that keeps coming to mind is the Gmork. Seems fitting for the father of werewolves.

@alfredvincent594 2 года назад

I always had an issue with Huan getting killed by Sauron, 'disguised' as a werewolf. I think Tolkien cheated a bit. But this story is EPIC none the less.

@saar144 Год назад

But he wasn’t

@stephenpickering8063 2 года назад

Glad to have found this and a fascinating [and great] description of one of the best parts of Tolkien's entire universe. Finrod is my favourite of all the elves in the history of Middle Earth because of his character. I would have to question a couple of points however. a) You mention Sauron and Melian as the only Maia mentioned in the 1st Age in ME but aren't all the Balrogs Maia who were corrupted by Melkor, largely having been previous servants of Aule? [Or did you mean named - its late here so may have missed it - but in that case wasn't Gothmog named as the Lord of Balrogs?] b) Finrod didn't take part in the 1st kinslaying at Alqualonde, the havens of the Teleri. It was Fingon, leading the vanguard of Fingolfin's host who came to Feanor's aid when the latter's attack on the Teleri. At least according to my copy of the Silmarillion. Finrod and most of the Noldor could be faulted for not being so disgusted at Feanor's actions that they didn't reject him totally as some did under his father Finarfin but he didn't take part in the kinslaying itself. Anyway many thanks for the great story-telling. I fear I will be back again to read more despite not having the time. ;)

@catfinity8799 2 года назад

When I think of Luthian taking back the island, I think of Celebrimbor slamming his staff down and releasing a blast of blue energy in Shadow of War.

@coreywells2709 2 года назад

Love your videos.

@mayaamis 2 года назад

I adore this channel!! 😍

@ChrisGrahamkedzuel 2 года назад

It is rather interesting to say that the actual mythology of the werewolf is actually closer to what Tolkien wrote than it is to what people commonly know about them. The whole man transforming into a man-wolf hybrid at the light of the full moon is believe it or not, a Hollywood creation. Specifically, Universal Studios in the 1920s and the movie The Wolf Man. The mythology did not have people turn into man-wolf hybrids. Most cases, werewolves were either spirits, or have some relation to the fey, or even dreamers who would appear as a wolf while they dreamed.

@sdev2749 2 года назад

great explanation, ty

@Slaptothefuture 2 года назад

YAAS! NEW VIDEO!!!!!!

@artewilliams758 Год назад

But fantastic that Finrod is reborn and returns to live in Valinor. Well rewarded and well deserved.

@shanascontrino5737 5 месяцев назад

sometimes a true sacrifice of the heart always deserves a reward

@kitsunefirefox1986 2 года назад

Twilight exists: Tolkien: Hold my Silmaril

@shadowseer07 2 года назад

Everyone has a goth phase, even J.R.R. Tolkien.🖤

@kjql949 2 года назад

Imagine if Huan was still alive in the Second Age and keeps kicking Sauron's ass

@keithsana6502 2 года назад

The Nazgûl fell beast could possibly be the decedents of thuringwethil the fell bat? Perhaps They were still young during the battle of 5 maybe and are mature during the fellowship? What’s your take on this?

@tolkienuntangled 2 года назад

That's a good theory. I imagine the fell beasts as being more bird like than bat like, but we're told very little about them, so it's certainly not impossible that they could be descendents of Thuringwethil.

@pcorrigan2293 Год назад

The way you pronounce werewolves as "we are wolves' is so charming.

@williamerickson520 2 года назад

I would love to know more about this Tower Nuthuín(?) and the other haunted places in Middle Earth. Have you done a video on this or, if not, is there enough material there for a video?

@loftymorgan2139 Год назад

i love your videos brother please keep them coming

@jerryknuckles736 2 года назад

And people wonder why elves are so willing to die in battle of sail west. Immortality with almost no benefit seems like a blessing and a curse.

@Orovingwen 2 года назад

I always felt Luthien is the one doing all (or most) of the work. And she should have set out with Beren from the begining. Better late then never, I guess.

@Doe808eoD 2 года назад

So when "il" is at the end of Thuringwethil it is a feminine name but not so for the "il" at the end of Edrahil? I really loved the line "back to the light of out of the pits of despair" and I think we see that sort of connection between later characters in Tolkien's world.

@tolkienuntangled 2 года назад

This is a really good question. Typically -il does make a word feminine, although there are a few exceptions. Due to complicated reasons, when -il is added to the end of a word, the vowel before the 'i' is 'slid higher and fronter' to another vowel sound (almost always e). So by adding -il to the end of gwath (shadow) it becomes gwethil. I guess Tolkien didn't want to just make Sindarin too similar to English, so he added a few grammar rules that are completely absent in our language. Similar things can be found in Welsh though (apparently). As for Edrahil, he's one of the few Elves whose name we're never given an etymology for, but interestingly, in earlier drafts, his name was Enedrion. And that -on suffix is the masculine equivalent of the feminine -il. That's probably more information than you wanted, but I find it interesting that Edrahil's character went from having a masculine suffix at the end of his name to a feminine one in later writings.

@Doe808eoD 2 года назад

@@tolkienuntangled I love this information, it’s amazing how well he understood language. Truly unmatched.

@jayt9608 2 года назад

@@Doe808eoD, Some times there are odd quirks in language that change the word that would normally be feminine to masculine and vice versa. In Spanish -a denotes femininity while -o denotes masculinity, and both el and la also aid in the understanding of the gender (el niño/la niña) but there are exceptions when -o or -a are not denoting the normal designations. It could be that the name here might meet the same rules. An alternative might also be that this elf was given a feminine name by his parents, as we see happen in other instances such as Courtney and Ashley moving from masculine names to feminine in English; or Aholibamah in Genesis 36 being used for both a man and a woman, Noah in Genesis and a lady named Noah in Numbers and Joshua. Just a couple of other thoughts.

@wlam205 2 года назад

Realized I was like 12 vids deep and hadn't subscribed. Unacceptable! Sorry my dude but love the content awesome format, so glad I found you through another of the Tolkien channels, Men of the West.

@tolkienuntangled 2 года назад

Thanks! I'm really glad you enjoy the channel.

@saar144 Год назад

So I finally read the Silmarillion, and I was shocked to find out that your videos are longer than the source material. I’m actually a bit disappointed that the Silmarillion is basically like a Grimm fairytale with almost no dialogue.

@IanHeins Год назад

Nice work dude thanks

@nickdarr7328 Год назад

What's interesting with the werewolves is the same question with glaurung, it seems most convenient to view them as creations of morgoth and/or sauron in the werewolves case. With belrogs and the vampire, just like with the wizards and sauron himself you can see why miare would take those forms. But morgoth and sauron certainly have a paternal connection with the dragons and werewolves. So I wonder were these natural creatures created by the singing of the gods