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The Green Bank Telescope (GBT) is the world's largest fully steerable radio telescope and the world's largest land-based movable structure. It is part of the National Radio Astronomy Observatory (NRAO) site at Green Bank, West Virginia, USA. NRAO is located in the National Radio Quiet Zone, a 13,000 mile zone where all radio transmissions are either limited or banned outright, to help the telescope function properly. With the growing popularity of radio-array telescopes, the GBT may end up being the last single-dish telescope of its kind built in the world. Motherboard traveled to this remote part of West Virginia to investigate one of the last remaining vestiges of single dish big science and the people who are fighting for it.
On August 16, 2012, A committee appointed by the National Science Foundation (NSF) recommended that the Green Bank Telescope be fully divested from its inventory by 2017.
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@carlapeyton6520 10 лет назад

My Dad was the 1st technician ever hired at the Observatory. He worked for Dr. Findlay.

@WhuDhat 3 года назад

Yeah... Yeah..Well my dad could kick your dads butt, so ha! In all seriousness that is very cool, that's something that you could tell your grandchildren's, grandchildren to take pride in, who knows maybe well be closer to the stars by then..

@shelleyprice7344 2 года назад

I grew up there

@Leggs013 6 лет назад

Great place to See!

@JOBoarder27 9 лет назад

I snowboard at the nearby ski resort (Snowshoe mountain) every winter, and I hear people complaining about the lack of cell phone service. While it may seem like an inconvenience, especially when you're trying to tell your friends the room number you're staying in at your hotel, it is for the best. The advancement of scientific ideas and theories is worth spending a night in your car at the top of a frigid mountain (which a friend of mine had to do).

@thelasthallow 9 лет назад

+JOBoarder27 your comment doesnt mean shit since there are already better more advanced telescopes in use today than the ones in that po-dunk town.

@garrettdodson6110 3 года назад

lol if you want ski and use a cell phone then simply Go somewhere else to ski. If you know you’re traveling to green banks and you k ow what the rules are then you have no right to complain. Easy peasy, go to Aspen or Vale.

@dundonrl 2 года назад

@@thelasthallow Lets see, you say that in 2015 there were better more advanced radio telescopes than the GBT, that was only 15 years old at the time (it was completed in August 2000) Even today in 2021, it's STILL the largest steerable telescope in the world!

@Blazzedtrail 12 лет назад

Why would you want to get rid of such beautiful instruments

@Mugsi 11 лет назад

"Why do we need to progress as a species?" So we don't have to deal with people like you.

@jaketimbers6004 4 года назад

Well said.

@RideSBBitch 9 лет назад

While attending James Madison University in VA Snow Shoe was a great escape. The constant switchbacks are a blast to drive and the drop of cell service on 33W makes you really appreciate your surroundings. It's pretty cool to hear some insight to what goes on at GBT and why we're turned off to our world and tuning in to others.

@electrictroy2010 8 лет назад

Nobody forced those residents to move to that town. They could have easily picked a different place to build their home, but they specifically CHOSE to reside in a radio-free zone. They only have themselves to blame. (Also the aurora borealis creates too much radio noise for this telescope to work up north) .

@ajk496 11 лет назад

The NRAO complex has a visitor center near the entrance. From there, visitors can ride one of their buses out to the Green Bank telescope. I've done that twice. Even though there's a fence keeping you more than 200 feet from the base of the telescope, it's still incredible standing that close to such a massive structure. They say that the West Virginia University football stadium could fit inside that dish.

@jahkoz 12 лет назад

This was by far one of the most fascinating documentaries you have done Vice. Anything on outer space and the human progression keep em coming. Thank you

@returnroquentin 12 лет назад

Immortal Douglas Adams' quote "The universe is huge." Bartlett's material

@walterbailey1266 6 лет назад

My wife and I enjoyed our 1st visit ever to West Virginia and to your great Observatory, hope to visit again. We stayed at the Snow Shoe resort 2 thumbs up as well. We were there visiting a great friend from long ago. We were treated to the Cass train ride up the mountain, another 2 thumbs up.

@zolpicrazed 12 лет назад

The radio quiet zone is a special place. Long live the zone.

@andrewjbeckner 12 лет назад

Our family cabin is about 5 miles north of the GBT. It is a vital part of the local economy, and a major part of our state's pride, to say nothing of its valuable contributions to scientific inquiry. Save the GBT, indeed.

@NigelGriff 12 лет назад

Breaking it down will provide plenty of salvage metal, maintaining it would cost a huge amount, and new projects are actually useful.

@rootsofone 12 лет назад

I noticed the low phone reception at snowshoe wv on a ski trip, was told it was this satelite. Many thanks to those who deticate their passion to the exploration of space, lot to l

@motorhead_jt21 9 лет назад

Drove through there once during a snowstorm, and had to stop because it got too rough. I remember asking a local why there was no cell service lol.

@h3526 4 года назад

Everyone: using WiFi inside the zone The green bank: am a a joke to you

@squishycommander 12 лет назад

I have seen this telescope in person. We need to save it!

@veritas41photo 4 года назад

I am proud to be a West By Gawd Virginia native. I count this telescope as a great feature of my home state. Keep it working!

@articulatebonehead 11 лет назад

spruce knob would be a good place to be planted. its beautiful out there. beats the GBR river trail, plus- no people!

@thearcane2 12 лет назад

This video was much better then some of their other ones...

@electrictroy2010 8 лет назад

Diesel engines don't have spark plugs, but they still have other radio-generating components like fuel injectors .

@tom3167 12 лет назад

Space exploration is how we will progress in technology and as a race. No question about it.

@gsboss 12 лет назад

i love how eclectic vice is

@OfficialGalaxite 12 лет назад

Amazing... The radio telescope can detect wave signals from the edge of our own galaxy O.O

@cameronwick 12 лет назад

Vice you are SO awesome. What a sick video!

@wondledonkey 12 лет назад

This is magical. I love science.

@robbie_stanton Год назад

I’ve seen the telescope on a field trip in 5th grade. Being a resident in North Central WV the telescope should be saved if it hasn’t happened already after the video was made 10yrs ago, the NSF should divest the telescope as well as six other publicly owned telescopes from its inventory.

@CupoJ0e 11 лет назад

Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin recalled what happened when they tried to set up the flag: “It took both of us to set it up and it was nearly a public relations disaster, “ he wrote, “ a small telescoping arm was attached to the flagpole to keep the flag extended and perpendicular. As hard as we tried, the telescope wouldn't fully extend. Thus the flag which should have been flat had its own permanent wave”

@darnelldingler 12 лет назад

You dont get rid of your current equipment until you have the new one in place.

@mjkirk12 10 лет назад

(to happosai27) All molecules (two or more joined atoms) with energy above 0 Kelvin vibrate and rotate. This vibration and rotation gives off radio and infrared light waves in a unique pattern - a sort of molecular "fingerprint". This pattern is the same on earth as in space. By matching the spectrum (fingerprint) of radio telescope data to the known spectrum of molecules on earth, radio astronomers can demonstrate the existence of these same molecules in space.

@TehChiken 12 лет назад

Amazing video!

@mrgiles12345 12 лет назад

That is an incredibly elaborate costly and detailed defense against WiFi, it makes me wonder if the satellite is more beneficial to the government than there letting on.

@airlinena Год назад

Looks and sounds like you interviewed the maintenance guy in a broom closet

@skyhop 12 лет назад

What I wouldn't give to see cellphones done away with all together. Just one many shackles humanity needs to shake off.

@Unhitable1 12 лет назад

We are a spec of dust in the cosmos. The odds of us finding anything is next to nothing. But there still is that small chance.

@jcptoyotataco 10 лет назад

This and snowshoe are literally in the middle of freaking nowhere

@Le_Petomane 12 лет назад

What a strange Douglas Adams quote to use and paraphrase? To the effect of saying the universe is big. The quote is "Space is big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind- bogglingly big it is"

@MrStickyPete 11 лет назад

Beautiful area

@Rubmaster 6 лет назад

So true what he said at the end. The big bang is not the first existence of it all. Nothing can't create something. We are so fixated on that something has to end. I believe in the number of infinite.

@anomalousclouds 12 лет назад

I have also been cell-less for roughly 2-3 years - I have an old school corded phone attached to my land line if anyone wants to get in touch with me at home, and I generally use payphones while out and about - y'know, like nearly everyone did 15+ years ago. The "Antarctica" reaction to your comment speaks volumes about how attached people are to their mobiles today. I don't want to worry about answering the damn phone every second of my waking hours, it is a social tether I'd rather not have.

@kungfusushi 12 лет назад

that escalated bro, escalated rather quickly

@tempjohn1111 12 лет назад

Videos like this are why I sub Vice.

@xerxes876 12 лет назад

There are several things the government says you can and cannot do in your own him. And until provisions such as the NDAA and Patriot act are removed, we cannot even begin to say we even had any liberties to begin with.

@vegtamvanderveg 6 месяцев назад

I would LOVE TO LIVE THERE!!

@qweqweqqweq6798 12 лет назад

people have thrived for thousands of years without cars as well, that doesn't mean much because times change. have a good day sir

@Desert2GardenLV 12 лет назад

"The universe is huge"~ Douglas 'Resident Genius' Adams

@theinfiniteblackvoid234 4 года назад

Most people don't know the earth is huge........

@RauCompany 12 лет назад

Carl Sagan wanted to use it to look for alien life. It's a useful piece of searching equipment, don't let it go :(

@KevinP32270 10 лет назад

FREAKING EPIC.

@amandalaci8212 7 лет назад

I love that place.

@vanillastien 12 лет назад

I envy every living soul there. Also, this thing has been around longer then your I-phone, laptop, or I-pad. So it has the rights to the silence.

@trje246 12 лет назад

We really need a telescope on the moon, looking back at earth - searching for intelligent life

@mynaimrie 3 года назад

🤣🤣🤣🤣👽

@MarkWoodChannel 7 лет назад

Well let's hope there's intelligent life out there, there certainly isn't any on this planet.

@garrettjohnston1585 5 лет назад

Mark Wood lmao that’s so true

@nightlightabcd 4 года назад

Does the lack of intelligent on this planet start with you?

@Nickwithneighbors 10 лет назад

Can i move there and leave my phone here?

@KeyWhip 12 лет назад

I live near here D: A documentary in WV? There are people that know west Virginia is a state? We as a people feel so... honored :'D

@iFRAGART 12 лет назад

i always thought that too that their was something before the big bang

@hippyharrison 11 лет назад

Wait, so they can detect molecules from millions of miles away using a radio telescope? Holy fuck. That's awesome.

@eater9one 12 лет назад

Cool insight

@sniper6081 12 лет назад

We had liberties before the NDAA and the Patriot act. They are inherent with our being. Government doesn't decide who has rights and what rights you have. They aren't something that can be invented.

@AlexLashko 11 лет назад

You actually do have a point. Humans have to first to figure out how to get along with each other before exploring other planets. Competitive society can never be unified.

@findmeifyoucan 12 лет назад

A possibility for parallel universe is that each big bang is like a bubble in a soda, and the liquid is the intense energy creating the universes. Endless big bangs = parallel universe. Who knows.

@bonjovirocks24 2 года назад

That telescope hasn’t found jack

@carlapeyton6520 10 лет назад

He did not lose his hair, I cant remember there ever being any radioactive materials used at the time that would have lead to that. Dad was an electronics technician so he build the machines. That was in the late 1950s-early 60s. I suppose that radioactive materials might possibly be used in later times but nothing like that was employed at that time.

@AlexLashko 11 лет назад

My thoughts exactly!

@bakerco502 12 лет назад

It's amusing that 4:20 into the video he mentions Douglas Adams. 42 :D

@HolowatyVlogs 3 года назад

We just lost Arecibo. 😞

@JAydUBr6 12 лет назад

I haven't owned a cell phone in over 3 years. It's awesome.

@KalElKryptonsFinest 12 лет назад

As much as I love antiques, I think the land resources required for this telescope would be better suited to a less developed area, maybe the hinterlands of Canada.

@sniper6081 12 лет назад

Couldn't have said it better myself.

@cboehm24 12 лет назад

Douglas Adams quote ftw.

@worldbestpilot 6 лет назад

Well, there is Effelsberg, that can easily take over !

@MaXG65 11 лет назад

Who said the moon doesn't have an atmosphere? That has been known since the late 1940's. I wouldn't call it "air" but it would be enough to create a slight wake effect as someone walked by.

@cgr_politica 3 года назад

Who is here after the Arecibo Observatory collapsed?

@johnb1391 12 лет назад

I agree that it shouldn't force the townsfolk to give up certain items (i.e. cell phones), and that if it must have radio silence, it should be moved to a more unpopulated area (like somwhere in Canada, if the Canadian government agreed to help the group out). However, the government has the power to do these things, just like they can take away your property, provided it's for a good reason and includes compensation (this is known as eminent domain). Is that right? Well that's another issue...

@NewBeginningRecords 12 лет назад

Thanks Bro :)

@doggo_s19 11 лет назад

Not really, google Square Kilometre Array. "The Square Kilometre Array is a radio telescope in development in Australia and South Africa which will have a total collecting area of approximately one square kilometre.It will operate over a wide range of frequencies and its size will make it 50 times more sensitive than any other radio instrument. It will require very high performance central computing engines and long-haul links with a capacity greater than the current global Internet traffic."

@N3VIUS 12 лет назад

Amazing

@howycwap 12 лет назад

she really does sound like her. and its wierd that its the same topic as contact

@fynnab 12 лет назад

Give us more Spaced Out videos VICE!

@sealrk19 12 лет назад

its already built, keep using it. it's only 2012. Take it down after we have some badass telescope or something

@drln1 12 лет назад

13000 square miles is different to 13000 miles square. the area they describe would be equivalent to a square with sides about 114 miles long.

@danx033 12 лет назад

I think we can all agree that space sciences are really fucking cool.

@DouchebagChocolat 12 лет назад

0:48 That bitch is channeling Jodie Foster something fierce.

@xerxes876 12 лет назад

In the grand scheme of things, Those people( The whining residents) should either compromise or leave. Astronomy is far more important then them having a cell phone or computer.

@tomwhitaker1426 11 лет назад

If more money was invested in science that would still create many good jobs, who says we need a massive chunk of the Earth's population working as military personal when they could be oceanographers, agriculturists, astronomers, cancer researchers, engineers etc...

@drthunder481 12 лет назад

Local West Virginian here, would be sad to see it go : /

@jonathanturbide2232 12 лет назад

From Sasha Grey to the world's largest fully steerable radio telescope ! lol

@sniper6081 12 лет назад

Yes, because after all government comes first. Nevermind the fact that they're probably stuck paying mortgages and don't have any buyers. The priority of government is always greater than the people's, especially when it comes to private property rights, right?

@ThePeanutwarrior 12 лет назад

im 15 actually and i never missed out on anything trust me

@freddakiko 12 лет назад

unfortunately the apex predator of that planet will be more suited to the planet than we are, assuming it is as technologically advanced as we are.

@sniper6081 12 лет назад

Yes, because the priorities of that telescope matter more than the people that live there and if the government should decide to do something they have no say in they should step out of the way, because things that are more important than people are about to happen. You also assume that the telescope was there first. You have no idea how many of those people lived there before the government moved. They're also probably paying off mortgages so they can't leave.

@zolpicrazed 11 лет назад

I travel to the radio quiet zone to hike. Its amazing and wonderfully desolate. I want my body buried there one day. Atop Spruce Knob.

@bioman8908 12 лет назад

They weren't all built in the 60s. The big one was dedicated in 2000.

@IrresistibleWitch 12 лет назад

the world's largest fully steerable radio telescope and the world's largest land-based movable structure.

@JohnAdorjan 4 года назад

Sadly, they decommissioned these radio telescopes November 18, 2019. Demolition to begin March 1, 2020.

@MichaelRMcCoy 4 года назад

John, can you provide any evidence to substantiate your claim -- specifically regarding the demolition of the telescope?

@StormsandSaugeye 2 года назад

No they didn't. The Green bank telescope is currently operational and is being regularly used.

@profsat5 12 лет назад

Strap a old i phone to it,then there's no way no hell anybody would touch it.

@TheUnchainedMind 11 лет назад

This woman reminds me very much of Roxanne Meadows, both in appearance and voice.

@karitakon 11 лет назад

Dave Choe saved this interview from boredom

@the666not666 11 лет назад

Ok so at 3:25 you can see a new power meter don't all of them have a wireless transmitter/receiver built in to them?I know the ones where I live all do!