@@scottroy6195 The Sawstop is completely trustworthy. I have no worries at all that it will do what is supposed to do when I need it to do that. However, you can't be complacent about it and you definitely don't want to pick up bad habits and then use another saw and cut your finger off..
@@suburbanhobbyist2752 it is a mechanical piece of equipment. It can fail. It's just like manual safeties on firearms. You have to practice other safety measures so that you don't rely on it in the event of a failure (i.e. treat all guns as if they are loaded, keep them pointed in a safe direction, keep your finger off the trigger until your sights are aligned and you're ready to fire, be aware of your target and beyond, etc.).
Us Job Site Saw (JSS) owners seem to be in the minority of the SawStop community, but we still exist. I encourage all of you JSS owners to join the Facebook SawStop Users’ Group to ask/answer questions and get new ideas from other woodworkers who live in the small home shop world or don’t have the budget for the big models. There is enough that is unique to the SS JSS that other makes of job site models don’t share, and we can learn from each other how to take advantage of (or find work-arounds for) our unique saws. Thanks for the great review, Finehomebuilding!
Random question for you...how loud is this machine? I've got my in-laws' bedroom right next to my shop so I need quieter machines if I'm going to work late into the night. Let me know what you think. Thanks!
I am with Jason on this! SawStop or not, you’re using some sloppy table saw practices. I hope and pray you keep your fingers! Stay safe, and work smart! Thanks
Great reviews. Did you have any issues setting up blade height accurately and quickly to, let’s say 3/64 (1mm). I really want to get this saw but I’m worried the height adjustment is going to be an issue? Do you have any thoughts on this? Thanks! :)
Patrick - thanks for making this video it is well done and the fact that you recorded this outside makes for great lighting. I'm with James and George in saying that you really should be using a push stick and/or push block versus running your hand so near the blade. I'm generally not a big rule follower, but losing a finger or an eye makes me very careful. Maybe you could add subtitles to this video like, "I forgot to use a push stick!! Big Mistake! Don't do a cut like this at home."
recovering now from my 2nd table saw injury, this time to my right middle finger. Fortunately I've not completely lost digits from either incident. As they say, third times a charm but I'm not looking for a third time. 1st time was due to ignorance, 2nd due to too much clearance in throat plate. This saw or something like it is definitely very high on my tool wish list.
No need to elaborate, this should be #1 on everyone's list, isn't that expensive especially when we're all getting stimulus checks... The saw is free, our kids will have to pay for it later
Just because a company advocates for something doesn’t mean it will happen. We have the right as citizen advocates to band together and lobby with our phone calls, letters, emails, etc., those same legislators to voice our opinion. That said, I have the original JSS and am thankful for a company that took the risk to make a product from scratch with the safety feature that other companies rejected at first. I appreciate that there are those out there with decades‘ worth of experience on table saws that have been injury free. Hat’s off to you! (sincerely). But nearing the end of my 6th decade, I don’t have the luxury of decades to gain the same level of experience. I was taught in high school wood shop to respect the machines. And I still remember those lessons. I saw a fellow student mangle his fingers on a jointer, so I’m fully aware what these machines can do, safety brake or not (as someone mentioned, kickback is still an issues with SawStops). So I still take precautions. The JSS is a quality saw, and I’m thankful for its existence that’s affords me some peace of mind at this stage in my life to reconnect with a hobby that I enjoyed as a kid.
@@NickSiekierski You Tube has many videos to learn from. I suggest searching for channels that discuss safety, but let common sense be your guide. What is safe for one woodworker might not be safe for others. "Wood Working for Mere Mortals" is a good channel for beginners. Steve Ramsey is a no-nonsense guy who sticks to the basics and will be a great help to anyone new to woodworking. He offers video courses which will require $$ to join, but he has a good library of free vids on RU-vid as well. "Stumpy Nubs" is another good channel to learn from if you can get past the name ;-) Has some safety videos, including for the table saw. There are woodworking magazines that would be helpful too.
I sold my Dewalt to buy this saw because of the fast blade adjustment , when I went to the shop I found the saw to be very shaky on the stand and the fence to about 3mm in deflection , my Dewalt was much better I’m kicking myself I sold it .
Thanks for the video. I’m just noticing you’re using an eye mask while ripping wood outside but not using a push stick. To me that strange prioritization but hey.
Looks very good but for $1400 the saw should have more ergonomic elegance which also contributes to safety. You were in an awkward position @3:40 with your arm extended out over the table because of the lack of built-in outfeed rails. If that board were 36" long it would have been even worse. A built-in sliding table like the European model of the Bosch XC10 would be a nice touch, and a micro-adjust on the rip-fence.
Wow. Great saw. That fence look absolutely dead parallel to the blade. I guess I'll have to bear with my Rigid 4513 where the fence hates being parallel to the blade or miter slots.
It seems to be alot quieter than most jobsite saws to me it sounds like a real table saw running not a inverted circular saw mounted in a flimsy plastic housing im between shops and homes so im thinking about this saw to build into a rolling cabinet that has fold out and down wings on it to make a cabinet table saw in a bench that can be converted into a Assembly table when needed im a retired professional Woodworker that wants the safety of the Sawstop but not the cost of their Cabinet saw i also have this concept of having 6 foot long units that can be easily transported between shops with multiple duties and functions as im also into car and motorcycle restoration some upohlstery and some marine projects yes alot of funtions but Woodworking was not only my career it was my primary hobby of over 35 years so my Table Saw is a priority i had a Unisaw at work for 25 years with access to some other nice Sliding table units like Altendorfs and multiple other Cabinet Saws scattered around a hundred thousand square foot shop
@@ThreePedalCollective yep. Had the dado break. Turns out not all dado stacks are created equal. In the end I purchased the saw stop dado stack. It’s good but way more expensive
I found myself yelling at the screen at the first cut on the video. Saw stop or not, never put your fingers next to the blade. I had to stop watching this. Please redo and upload the new video. If it doesn't save your fingers, it'll save one of your viewers. Sorry this was so strongly worded.
He has safety in mind. He'll put his fingers an inch from the blade with no push stick or block, but boy howdy he's got his mask on so he doesnt get a lung full of wood dust in an open area with most of the dust being ejected out the dust port.
Use a push stick. Monkey see, monkey do (regarding others watching you). Moreover, you might inadvertently transfer a bad habit working with another saw down the road, or, you might accidentally get distracted and forget you bypassed the safety feature and forgot to turn it back on, or, the safety feature might fail some day (it is mechanical).
Well, in a worthwhile review, wouldn't you want to know how straight that cut was? Is the blade parallel to the fence? When you set an angle for a cut does the blade really cut at that angle? I hate to be cynical, but this is more like an ad for one of your advertisers than a review.
Actually bought one myself and it came ready to cut, perfectly calibrated right out of the box, which was a very pleasant surprise. i'm sure this may not be the case for everybody, but I've had no complaints so far. Yes, it is way more expensive than the competition, but the piece of mind it gives me is priceless.
It can, especially wet pressure-treated stock. You can bypass the safety feature if necessary. You can test before cutting by touching the material to the blade after it's finished its self test. If you get a red light you can run the saw in bypass mode. Radiant barrier sheathing (it has a foil layer) will also trigger the blade brake.
Check out stumpy nubs sawstop myths video. It can, but it's also unlikely. They link to videos where you can cut wood that's been soaked in water and the water is literally hitting your face as you saw and it doesn't set off the blade mechanism. Also cutting through staples and other things. But as noted below, you can always run in bypass mode as needed.
@@uhhhhNick Interesting. So what would happen if you dropped the hot dog on the blade from at least a few inches above? Or touched the running blade while wearing insulated rubber-soled boots/shoes?
This video shows the biggest problem with the saw besides the price. The "saw stop" safety feature makes people stupid. The saw costs $1400. You can make a push stick yourself for almost nothing.
Actually bought one myself and it came ready to cut, perfectly calibrated right out of the box, which was a very pleasant surprise. i'm sure this may not be the case for everybody, but I've had no complaints so far. Yes, it is way more expensive than the competition, but the piece of mind it gives me is priceless.
Wow, all that for over a thousand dollars!!! A run of the mill plastic housing...... Oh, and the clearance on the fence isnt for your hand!!! Use a freaking push stick....if you haven't already lost a finger or two.
The BIG reason I would never buy a SawStop is because of the company itself. They have promoted legislation that would make sawstop technology required on all table saws and not because they care about injuries but rather simply business. Besides making sawstop tons of money and removing freedom of choice, This would allow them to corner the market on table saws and probably cause most other saw companies to go out of business. At the very least it would cause the price of table saws to go through the roof. Requiring the tech on all saws would not work anyway. You can take a saw with sawstop tech, disconnect or remove the sawstop tech and rewire the motor through the switch which most probably do eventually or after buying a used sawstop. I have been using table saws for more than 40 years now and have never even come close to cutting of a finger because I use two simple and full-proof safety rules, never push wood through the saw blade with your fingers past the front/leading edge of the blade and always using a well designed push stick which is kept laying on the table saw where you can easily reach it. If you never push the wood, with your fingers past the front edge of the blade you can't get cut, period. Besides one of the biggest dangers with a table saw is kickback which the SawStop tech does not prevent.
Here's the issue with your logic, if legislation is passed mandating all saw companies install this tech then that would make sawstop a monopoly which we have legislation against. My understanding is then they would lose their right to the tech.
Very nice saw but for a "portable jobsite" table saw it's way overkill and overpriced compared to Bosch and Dewalt table saws at 1/3 the cost. Also a onboard self diagnostic is just another thing to go wrong, it's like they trying to reinvent the wheel or hammer.
@@Assburgersaretasty I mostly agree proper care is required. When you work on the tools day in day out there will be some days when you are more tired or you can make a slight mistake. I’ve seen too many people have injuries because is this. Additional safety is really underrated- especially in this case where absolutely zero sacrifice is made except in the one time cost
