SC Designs F-16 Fighting Falcon - First Look Review! - MSFS 2020. 

agreed!

Because the flight models trash 🗑. Don’t buy dc / sc designs.

@@Ricardo-eg3wn Isn't the F16 also known for its high aoa capabilities and smooth landings?

@@athenahermes2500 Ask an air force pilot. I assure you they wont validate any of the work dc designs does as accurate. Don't take my word for it.

@@athenahermes2500 Not landing at 120 knots lmao. And no, the F16 is not great with AOA, that's why the computer limits it to 25 degrees max.

try DCS

Hey! Loving your work in MSFS! Is the F16 carrier compatible? I have asked Touchingcloud for an insight on how to enable the tailhook arrest system on any aircraft, and it seems quite straight to the point. Maybe if you guys haven't implemented it yet, I can pass on the info on how to quickly add it. It would add a lot of value to your aircrafts :) Thanks!

You guys are just awesome. Takin' MSFS2020 to a WHOLE NEW LEVEL! Big ups for the future.

Sorry if I bother you DC Designs, just a quick question : with future updates for F-16 wil be the possibility to show pilot avatar in cockpit while flying? As is possible both for F-15 and F-14..Just to make it "More Realistic" with different camera views while recording a video! :D Thanks all of you.

@@blackfalco33 I can add that to the list, yes - the system for doing so isn't very reliable at the moment but will hopefully create something of my own soon in future updates for all the aircraft.

@@DCDesignsMSFS Don't worry!!! Considering that FS2020 is 1 year old YOU'VE MADE TOO MUCH SO FAR!!! THANKS!!

Much appreciated!

Yea why would they not put in a E bracket

Thanks :D

@@Great-Documentaries Some maybe, but I have the CRJ 500/700 and 900/1000 from Aerosoft. (To my knowledge, the only aircraft in MSFS that is study level that isn't a fairly simple single engine GA plane.) Learning the more complicated systems and having a working knowledge of how to get them from point A to point B is a large chunk of the enjoyment and satisfaction. What I was trying to get at was the people out there who want the study-level aircraft are somewhat niche and don't make up the majority of the population, and that most people are off-put by the idea once they see what's actually involved. Having to spend several tens of hours of learning and referencing a manual (rather than just being shown in a 10 minute tutorial) isn't something that appeals to everyone, but there is a certain crowd that wants that experience.

@@KennyTheB The odd thing is that there should be absolutely no problem to translate DCS' EFM into MFS' SimConnect interface. Most likely one could write a library to hook onto the EFM ones function calls and forward the calls into SimConnect. Well, the coordinate systems are definitely different and so are parameters like the environmental settings, but I'm quite positive translation routines could be written for all of that too.

Fr I was like "wow only had to click 1 button for engine start" it would be sick to have a dcs level of detail model in this game so we can fly around the locations of this game but with the same experience as dcs

It is the best jet … undisputed

I absolutely love it. Always loved aircraft but very new to msfs so I went with the Hawk as I felt it would be a good beginner plane. I’ve only being playing a week or so and have all the assists off (apart from airport approach until I learn navigation). I’m already using all the instruments. I feel like a proper pilot 🤣🤣 also I live done the road from the Red Arrows so that makes it even better

I think I was a little tired and distracted... the cockpit I quite liked, exterior I think I mentioned looked a little simple.. which it did. Not as good as it could be... Maybe I'm losing my touch? I try to be too kind at times.

Even Angels need to sleep.

Interesting take ok the F16. Definitely prefer the one in DCS but that's a dedicated combat simulator and this isn't. Still a nice job on the jet. If I pic up msfs again I may get it just to play with.

Fuel switch is like hidden when name name does show sometimes like the switches under the throttle, you really have to look at it at different angle in VR before your can reach some ;-)

Assume I bought it... If i ever get sent something, I clearly state it at the start... Which is rare... I buy 95% of what I cover here. :)

Thanks!

32gb ram, RTX 2070super, Ryzen 2700x cpu :)

yeah it does me too.

LOL!

@@AvAngel id buy it if it comes out on xbox,so far the best jet on xbox i think is the hornet for its maneuverability, happy xmas to you and your family :)

Those are the saddle fuel tanks for longer duration operations and thanks :)

Pure beginners luck... and head tracking helps depth perception... I would put money on me not repeating that.

Payload and weight menu

@@AvAngel thank you so muchh❤️

@@AvAngel where change to the pilot please help me

I don't notice any aside from the sim

@@AvAngel Bad luck for me i guess. Only get it on this plane tho, thought of everything possible, i'm beaten, got no clue.

Initial patch today (15th December), you'll be informed along by email with a link to the changelog and expect bigger updates in the New Year.

@@justflight Did some more flying last night and I must have been tripping about those control surfaces. My bad. The control surfaces are working fine.

It moves bigger angles than your head moves... so 20 degrees for me is 90, you get used to it, smaller movements, still see the screen but visibility unhurt.

@@AvAngel Thanks for taking the time. Merry Christmas

Bredok3d is scam and not worth any money nor time

perspective of how my head is positioned, with head tracking, i can move sideways :)

Flight sim is a cpu thing. Never been a console thing. Console will never be able to support a fraction of the quantity required to meet cpu standards. Recommend investing a couple of grand into a decent desktop. Amongst cpu flight simmers this dc designs is considered garbage compared to just flight or milviz.

@@Ricardo-eg3wn no

@@brandongriffin938 your loss. Some of the most accurate study level aircraft ever produced are on the market now. PMDG and sim skunk works have taken things up a notch concerning realism. The last msfsx ran for over two decades. In console terms it’s supersedes the life of gta 5. MSFS 2020 will undoubtedly do the same. If your a true flight enthusiast buy a pc. It will also smack traditional console games. Gtx 970 and up with an i7 processor is like minimum high spec. 3000 series nvidia cards with i7 and solid state drives will give you the max. Instead of buying a new console every 5 you just update your cpu every 10-15 years. Better graphics better performance better games.

Everybody can’t afford to spend thousands of dollars into a PC just to enjoy certain aircraft although the facts concerning PC being better than consoles may be obviously true. I believe content creators and developers responsible for releasing these aircraft need to get it together. It’s 2022 and we are on a whole new generation of consoles so there’s no excuse for Xbox not having access to any planes that PC have access too. Its completely unfair to console players and it’s a trash business move because they will obviously make a lot more money when those aircraft come to Xbox as well💯💯

@@dontrealjackson6887 it’s physically impossible to put some content on console. A lot of the cpu programs that are used to run complex planes are not supported on a console. Ex the working radar in the sim skunk works tf-104. All a console is (is a severely restricted small computer) you need a real pc. 2,000$ investment will change your life. I just bought a 3060ti… flight sim max ultra 4K. It’s not even the same sim at that point compared to what your x box displays. X box flight sim. This is Microsoft’s way of ripping you off with a third of the flight sim. It was a marketing move and you fell for it…. Now buy a pc. It’s ok man. I was you like two decades ago as kid trying to play msfsx with the xbox controler for windows. Off a gaming laptop. ( desktop is the way ) Now I got the entire thrust master airbus setup. You can’t afford a pc…. ? Go get paid. When you finally get a decent set up one day you’ll be thanking me that I kept it real with you. Top of the line Graphics card and processor and run the sim off of a large solid state. Complete difference night and day from an xbox. Maybe not now but some day you’ll get there.

What?

I didn't delete anything, someone must have reported it *shrug* You can disagree with me, but I maintain why I post reviews... at least people can see the product, warts and all and see what they'll get when they jump in. Not everyone is an expert or specialist, and most don't want an aircraft you have to study before you can even operate. Some do, and there are aircraft and sims to cater. Some just want to enjoy a rendition for some fun alongside other flying. This sim is certainly a specailist for GA type flying, there are others for airliners and others for combat. Doesn't mean you can't have crossover. And for a jet novice, I think it wasn't bad. I don't fly airliners but nobody cried when I reviewed the CRJs as a product... same as this... product review, not accuracy review.

@@AvAngel A valid view, it's just personally I look for a review to be informed, by no means expert but someone who has at least done some research. I fully appreciate many watch reviews for different reasons, it's just not my cup of tea that's all. I certainly don't expect a review of pilot standard knowledge, that would be silly, just a certain level. Horses for courses. Cheers.

That's why I preface it with 'first look' rather than 'in depth' to ensure people know what they're getting... an overlook or a dive into it.

Its the same creator, different channel and not connected to that.

I don't, combat sims aren't my thing. I enjoy ground combat games more :D

altitude has a big play in max speed

I do not know I'm afraid, not sure one can.

@@AvAngel Thank you. What about removing / put on / the oxygen mask ??

It’s a saddle fuel tank, it’s a feature in some models, empty those tanks and they vanish

@@AvAngel its a real shame, its dulled the look of the best looking fighter ever created.

You can remove them like I said….

@@AvAngel can they be removed in the game?

Yes, that's what I just said :) reduce those tanks fuel to 0 and they disapear.

Probable is somewhere.

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>DCS player thinks he knows what the real thing is like lmfao

@@rulingmoss5599 look at photos. That’s all you need to know. Educate yourself.

@@rulingmoss5599 go to sleep kiddo

It’s released yes, purchased it myself

That’s disappointing, I’ve personally not flown it since review

@@AvAngel All good :) thanks for your content Av, it's always entertaining to watch. Regards!

Once ms updates the marketplace I believe it will yes

@@AvAngel No not quite right. This hasn't been sent to MS yet so it'll be a while. Second update for it was released yesterday so SC Designs will probably aim to submit early Jan. Then it's down to how long MS take to get back on changes/issues etc. Xbox stuff isn't simple at the moment so there's really no telling when it'll be available on X-Box. Guessing but I'd say February absolutely earliest but realistically you could be looking at March onwards in truth. Sorry to dispel current hopes but wanted to offer some facts there.

You can, I do at the end :P

No idea

No Jayden.

It is... £25 from Justflight, where I bought it.

@@AvAngel that’s nice, not too much. coming to Xbox too?

Think so

@@AvAngel nice, thanks

It’s not a combat sim… I get it. Doesn’t bother me

That's fine if it's your personal choice but so many people are finding the opposite with this, with other DC Designs add-ons and with the JF Hawk along with others. Each to their own of course, this hits the spot for many flight simmers.

@@justflight of course it's a personal opinion, and DCS isn't perfect either - it all depends what you're looking for in a sim and which one provides the best experience for you. For the same reason, if a Cessna ever came to DCS - I'd rather buy it on MSFS/P3D/XP instead.

Depends, I don't mind the odd fighterjet, but I also don't want to bother with combat... so flying it in the 'real world' is enjoyable. Many different tastes.

Try intercept airliners if you use any traffic software,… it’s really fun…

MSFS has the advantage of not being a dull boring environment to fly in, keep larping.

It is not.

@@AvAngel ok

Not anywhere near that bad, plus its an older mark than the latest F16s.

"Pay a bit more" ................ actually , if you want full fidelity , join the Air Force !! ( And pass no remarks to our " hero DCS guys " !! )

@@bloke755 ye but not everyone can join the air force, and not every country has an air force, mine doesn't...

I’m not going to comment on the quality of the fighter jets thus far in MSFS, but there’s literally no point people bringing up DCS. MSFS isn’t a combat sim, and DCS doesn’t have the whole world to fly in.

@@WhiteHawk77 it’s not even about dcs… it’s about effort… they can’t even make one of the most prominent liveries correct, also the cockpit is not accurate, why? If cockpit accuracy is limited by what msfs can offer then why do it in the first place? But they can’t even get the stick and throttle to look right? I think that’s not a limitation from msfs, that’s just pure laziness… aerosoft’s f-16 for fsx/p3d from I don’t know how many years ago is better looking, and they got a lot of stuff functioning… that says a lot

@@TheSkyHawkMT couldn't agree more mate absolutely shit quality look at the just flight hawk or the indiafoxtecho goshawk or f35 and then look at this crap 🤔

This is the C model, it's older.

@@AvAngel the C model , especially the block 50/52 variants you mentioned earlier was developed in the 90s and is still in use today by the US Air Force.

@@AvAngel You sure modeled it to look like the Desert Viper. If this were a Block C, I'd be finding things where I expect them from years of Falcon 4.0....

You play DCS while convincing yourself its realistic, be quiet.

@@rulingmoss5599 you have no idea what you’re talking about dude. Sit down and go back to halo.

"I'm a DCS viper pilot" Opinion disregarded

@@rulingmoss5599 okay 🙂

@@rulingmoss5599 I know several irl viper pilots, flown with em numerous times, they use the lingo all the time, and dcs (confirmed by the irl pilots) has all the exact same controls and systems as real life. That’s why I mention it. But people like you probably won’t have it that your favorite flight sim is “arcade-ish” at times. 🙂